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Funkley said:
RockNRolen said:
Sammy3469 said:
RockNRolen said:
Funkley said:
He's no Howie Kendrick
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Your Kendrick man-love fascinates me.
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Why? Funkley is an equal opportunity man lover
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Simply because I don't think he'll be all that good. He can hit for average, but other than that I see no exceptional qualities.
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Yeah, that .600 slg he did in the minors just screams 'average'.
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I'm talking about 2007 roto leagues. He is going earlier and earlier in draft this spring. He'll have some serious improvement to make on his .285/.314/.416 line in 276 MLB at-bats last season to be worth that kind of selection. I'll take Rickie Weeks or Josh Barfield at that point in the draft and be happy.
 
RockNRolen said:
Funkley said:
RockNRolen said:
Sammy3469 said:
RockNRolen said:
Funkley said:
He's no Howie Kendrick
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Your Kendrick man-love fascinates me.
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Why? Funkley is an equal opportunity man lover
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Simply because I don't think he'll be all that good. He can hit for average, but other than that I see no exceptional qualities.
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Yeah, that .600 slg he did in the minors just screams 'average'.
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I'm talking about 2007 roto leagues. He is going earlier and earlier in draft this spring. He'll have some serious improvement to make on his .285/.314/.416 line in 276 MLB at-bats last season to be worth that kind of selection. I'll take Rickie Weeks or Josh Barfield at that point in the draft and be happy.
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Hit MUCH better after the 2nd call up and not getting jerked around with playing time. Plus, he's younger than those guys.
 
I have Kinsler as my fifth best 2B, but with a very small disparity from 2-5 (Cano, Barfield, Roberts, Kinsler), and I'm passing on taking those guys with early picks and nabbing Kinsler in the middle rounds.

I'm expecting the neighborhood of .300 90 20 80 20

 
Michael Brown said:
I have Kinsler as my fifth best 2B, but with a very small disparity from 2-5 (Cano, Barfield, Roberts, Kinsler), and I'm passing on taking those guys with early picks and nabbing Kinsler in the middle rounds.

I'm expecting the neighborhood of .300 90 20 80 20
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Why would you have Cano and Barfield ahead of Roberts?
 
He's still out there in my league - thinking about picking him up as a middle infield utility guy. I've got Kendrick in the 2B spot now, with Ryan Freel as a utility guy, but Stephen Drew, B.J. Upton, and Kinsler are all out there and are tempting me...

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
He's still out there in my league - thinking about picking him up as a middle infield utility guy. I've got Kendrick in the 2B spot now, with Ryan Freel as a utility guy, but Stephen Drew, B.J. Upton, and Kinsler are all out there and are tempting me...
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6 teamer?
 
Anyone know exactly where he'll be hitting in the order to start the season? It varies from source to source.

 
Notorious T.R.E. said:
RockNRolen said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
He's still out there in my league - thinking about picking him up as a middle infield utility guy. I've got Kendrick in the 2B spot now, with Ryan Freel as a utility guy, but Stephen Drew, B.J. Upton, and Kinsler are all out there and are tempting me...
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6 teamer?
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:rolleyes:WTF?
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No, it's a 10-teamer - 12 2Bs were selected, but not Kinsler. I just dropped Corey Hart and picked up Kinsler... now I have Kinsler and Kendrick. I saw a trade just went through where one team traded Chase Utley to another for David Wright, leaving team A with no 2B. I'm sure he was planning to pick up Kinsler, as he's easily the top rated 2B out there, but I snaked him.
 
Notorious T.R.E. said:
RockNRolen said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
He's still out there in my league - thinking about picking him up as a middle infield utility guy. I've got Kendrick in the 2B spot now, with Ryan Freel as a utility guy, but Stephen Drew, B.J. Upton, and Kinsler are all out there and are tempting me...
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6 teamer?
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:thanks:WTF?
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Drew and Upton were both drafted and subsequently dropped in order to pick up Sammy Sosa and Edwin Encarnacion, respectively.
 
RockNRolen said:
Anyone know exactly where he'll be hitting in the order to start the season? It varies from source to source.
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Based on the latest spring lineups this would be my guess:Lofton CFKinsler 2BYoung SSTexeira 1BSosa DHBlalock 3BWilkerson LFCruz RFLaird CWe'll see what they go with tonight.
 
2B in mixed leagues this year has a unusual distribution of talent. Utley is a clear #1, head and shoulders above everyone else. There really is no second tier to speak of, which makes the third tier very deep with about a dozen guys who could conceivably end the year as the #2.

Depending on what your team needs from this position, there are a bunch of guys (Roberts, Cano, Kendrick, Weeks, etc.) who fit into this tier. Unless you love one of them, I'd fill other positions in the middle rounds and grab one of the last tier three 2B on the board. Even if you miss the run, there are sleepers like M.Giles, Vidro and Wigginton who have a decent chance of outperforming some of the guys ranked above them.

 
wow, way to go out on a limb. why not just launch the Chase Utley bandwagon while you're at it.Some more follow up on Ray Durham:

Nobody ever seems to want Ray Durham on their fantasy baseball team, which is why I keep getting him. Is it because he's coming off by far his career best power season? Perhaps. Is it because he's not exactly a kid and therefore unlikely to improve? Could be. Is it because most people are unaware that Durham not only produced 26 home runs and 93 RBI last year, but will again be protecting Barry Bonds in the order and could do this again? I think that's it. Not to get on another rant about how players over the age of 35 can actually still produce for your fantasy teams, but Durham sure looks like another fella being discriminated against, like Greg Maddux and John Smoltz, Jeff Kent and Chipper Jones, Jim Edmonds and that Bonds guy. There are many more. Why was that Durham season such a fluke? Sure, his previous career high in homers was 20 (back in 2001), and he hadn't topped 75 RBIs before, but times have changed. Durham was miscast for the last few seasons as a leadoff hitter, when he could no longer run and durability became an issue. But why can't he be like a Marquis Grissom type who, when the wheels slowed down, developed more power? Don't like the home park? Durham had a higher OPS in San Francisco than on the road. Think much of the power came late in the season? I'd rather see that than an early spike and poor second half. Plus, he hit 12 homers before the All-Star break, 14 after, so I wouldn't call him the second base version of Paul Lo Duca, you know. The point here is that Durham is underrated and forgotten. And since a few of the blogs I wrote on Wednesday dealt with other movement in drafts surrounding catcher and first base (just click on that little 28 on the calendar to the left), I figured second base was a good starting point today. Durham finished as the No. 4 second baseman on our Player Rater last season, behind Alfonso Soriano, Chase Utley and Dan Uggla. I understand downgrading a 35-year-old a bit, but to have 11 players at his position being drafted over him seems a bit odd, and Soriano isn't even one of them (outfielder now, folks). Uggla is going fourth at second base, 90th in ESPN average live drafts. Durham is going more than 70 picks later than Uggla and is owned in barely half of ESPN leagues. Wow. That's all I can say. Wow. And Durham's NL West pal Jeff Kent is apparently too old to produce as well. Sure, Kent is deemed as ancient, now that he's 39 years old and coming off an injury-plagued campaign. What did Kent do in 2004-05? Oh, he averaged 28 home runs and 106 RBI and hit .289 both seasons. Kent's OPS was similar last season, so I don't see why he can't get back to 28 and 106, to be honest. He is hitting cleanup for a major league team, like Durham. Is there upside? Well, if you want a good 2007 there is. Shouldn't you worry about 2008 when it gets here?
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Furious Gusto said:
wow, way to go out on a limb. why not just launch the Chase Utley bandwagon while you're at it.
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What's your problem? Are you going to state again that you were being stupid by picking on me like you did yesterday? Turn the tool factor down.
 
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I've had Kinsler on my farm team for a couple of years now (we do that in our league). I think he'll be o.k. this year, but I'd be ecstatic if he was 20/20 with a .280 or better average. While I see him as a keeper, I think there's some sophomore slump to be had here this season. I expect mid .270's with 10-15 hr/sb. Lofton should help his RBI production so 70-80 seems reasonable.

 
Fla\/\/ed said:
Furious Gusto said:
wow, way to go out on a limb. why not just launch the Chase Utley bandwagon while you're at it.
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What's your problem? Are you going to state again that you were being stupid by picking on me like you did yesterday? Turn the tool factor down.
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Go back and read the thread. You'll see that you started this, not me. You said my opinion on Ray Durham was invalad because I like Doumit better than Paulino. Maybe I'm wrong on that one and to a degree, I'm joking as that was a shot more at JTC than it was a real prognostication. But you butted in, then continued to dinigrate my follow up posts. And I'm being a tool? Huh?For the record, I don't think you're going out on a limb projecting Kinsler to be the next great shakes at 2B. All publications like this guy. I drafted Kinsler LAST summer and enjoyed him when he was healthy. But I got him near the end of my draft. This year? I have to burn a much higher pick to get him. He's no longer a secret, so I'm not sure what this thread is for.And this is why I continue to draft Ray Durham late....people hate him. And he's going late because of it. To me, that's value. Kinsler could be a 20/20 guy this year, but you're not getting him nearly as late as a guy like Durham.I'll turn the tool factor down, but re-read the thread in question. you called me out first. Par for the course.
 
Furious Gusto said:
Fla\/\/ed said:
Furious Gusto said:
wow, way to go out on a limb. why not just launch the Chase Utley bandwagon while you're at it.
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What's your problem? Are you going to state again that you were being stupid by picking on me like you did yesterday? Turn the tool factor down.
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Go back and read the thread. You'll see that you started this, not me. You said my opinion on Ray Durham was invalad because I like Doumit better than Paulino. Maybe I'm wrong on that one and to a degree, I'm joking as that was a shot more at JTC than it was a real prognostication. But you butted in, then continued to dinigrate my follow up posts. And I'm being a tool? Huh?For the record, I don't think you're going out on a limb projecting Kinsler to be the next great shakes at 2B. All publications like this guy. I drafted Kinsler LAST summer and enjoyed him when he was healthy. But I got him near the end of my draft. This year? I have to burn a much higher pick to get him. He's no longer a secret, so I'm not sure what this thread is for.And this is why I continue to draft Ray Durham late....people hate him. And he's going late because of it. To me, that's value. Kinsler could be a 20/20 guy this year, but you're not getting him nearly as late as a guy like Durham.I'll turn the tool factor down, but re-read the thread in question. you called me out first. Par for the course.
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:thumbup: wow :thumbdown:
 
culdeus said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
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Anyone know exactly where he'll be hitting in the order to start the season? It varies from source to source.
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Based on the latest spring lineups this would be my guess:Lofton CFKinsler 2BYoung SSTexeira 1BSosa DHBlalock 3BWilkerson LFCruz RFLaird CWe'll see what they go with tonight.
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This is what I would project. Against lefties this might be altered somewhat.
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against lefties Kinsler will be batting ninth to start the season. I really don't see that happening for long. He had the best spring of any position player for the Rangers and is ready to breakout big time.On board.
 
I am on the Brandon Phillips bandwagon. It looks like I am the only one.

To be fair, I wanted Kinsler but he was kept by the team that drafted him last year.

 
Bought my ticket tonight also. He's starting the season as a backup to Cano right now for my AL only keeper team, so I'm not expecting anything. But would love for him to give me more options.

 
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Bogart said:
culdeus said:
Notorious T.R.E. said:
RockNRolen said:
Anyone know exactly where he'll be hitting in the order to start the season? It varies from source to source.
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Based on the latest spring lineups this would be my guess:Lofton CFKinsler 2BYoung SSTexeira 1BSosa DHBlalock 3BWilkerson LFCruz RFLaird CWe'll see what they go with tonight.
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This is what I would project. Against lefties this might be altered somewhat.
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against lefties Kinsler will be batting ninth to start the season. I really don't see that happening for long. He had the best spring of any position player for the Rangers and is ready to breakout big time.On board.
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There aren't any real legit lefthanders in the division anymore so that will help get his AB up.
 
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