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ICHIRO - Just got his 200th hit for the 10th straight year (1 Viewer)

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Amazing.

Had he played here instead of Japan for the first nine years of his career, he would easily have surpassed Rose's hit record. A record which is thought to be untouchable. Even if you are conservative and give him 175 hits per year those first nine seasons, he'd still get there.

And he still looks & runs like he's 25. Guy is incredible.

 
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Incredible player and a very impressive record.

The Ms have been a huge disappointment though. There were a number of people who ranked them as the AL West favorites entering the season. Ichiro did his usual part and King Felix could hardly have been better but man, the rest of the wheels sure fell off the bandwagon.

 
Incredible player and a very impressive record. The Ms have been a huge disappointment though. There were a number of people who ranked them as the AL West favorites entering the season. Ichiro did his usual part and King Felix could hardly have been better but man, the rest of the wheels sure fell off the bandwagon.
now c'mon, Milton Bradley performed as expected too.
 
Incredible player and a very impressive record. The Ms have been a huge disappointment though. There were a number of people who ranked them as the AL West favorites entering the season. Ichiro did his usual part and King Felix could hardly have been better but man, the rest of the wheels sure fell off the bandwagon.
now c'mon, Milton Bradley performed as expected too.
Bradley exceeded expectationsRussell Branyan did his job too
 
Incredible player and a very impressive record. The Ms have been a huge disappointment though. There were a number of people who ranked them as the AL West favorites entering the season. Ichiro did his usual part and King Felix could hardly have been better but man, the rest of the wheels sure fell off the bandwagon.
now c'mon, Milton Bradley performed as expected too.
Bradley exceeded expectationsRussell Branyan did his job too
Cliff Lee was pretty lights out for them too. Weird team.
 
They'll barely crack the 500 R barrier and will likely end the season with 100 fewer R than their next closest competitor.

In retrospect, it should have obvious in the spring that this team was going to struggle offensively. Other than Ichiro, no players were even near average for their position. They had zero power from the corner IF and corner OF positions. They were counting on a repeat career year from Franklin Gutierrez, the resurrection of Griffey Jr. and avoiding a Milton Bradley meltdown. A lot of people bought into Jack Zduriencik as a genius for focusing on pitching and defense in Safeco. I was skeptical at the time but thought Anaheim would win the division :blackdot:

 
I thought Seattle would win the division and Texas would finish last. I guessed Oakland and Anaheim to finish 2nd and 3rd so I guess that counts for something.

Ichiro is now tied with Pete Rose. And he started playing at 27?

 
Great accomplishment, but I'm with Charlie Hustle here:

Ichiro Suzuki recorded the 4,000th hit of a career that spanned nine years in Japan and 13 here in the States tonight at Yankee Stadium. It was a typical Ichiro slap and he did it off a knuckleballer.

It was his 2,722nd as a major leaguer and that's why, according to Pete Rose he's going to have to do a lot more than get 256 more hits to catch Rose at 4,256 and be considered Baseball's Hit King™. According to YES play-by-play man Michael Kay, Rose said Ichiro's Japanese numbers were against inferior opponents and therefore don't count for purposes of his record. His teammates—and even one of his opponents, Munenori Kawasaki—however, thought the moment significant enough to stop the game and applaud.
 
Since entering the majors in 2001, Ichiro has nearly 400 hits more than any other player. He’s one of four players in history with at least 150 hits in each of his first 12 seasons, along with Paul Waner (1926-39), Richie Ashburn (1948-60) and Albert Pujols (2001-12). Ichiro has a chance to reach 150 hits for a 13th straight season this year.Ichiro set the single-season mark for most hits in a season back in 2004 with 262. That surpassed the previous record, established back in 1920 by George Sisler.

Ichiro has recorded 10 seasons of at least 200 hits in his career, tied for the most in baseball history with Pete Rose. All 10 of Suzuki’s 200-hit seasons came with the Mariners.

His hit total through 13 seasons is the most for anyone in major-league history within any 13-season span.

He entered this season, his age-39 season, needing 394 hits to reach 3,000. Should he get to 3,000, he’d be only the ninth player since 1990 with at least 394 hits from his age-39 season on.

Ichiro has the fifth-most wins above replacement since entering the league in 2001. Only Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, Adrian Beltre and Carlos Beltran have more.

Hit number 2,722 in his major-league career was a milestone in one other respect. It allowed him to pass Yankees great Lou Gehrig on the all-time hit list.
 
Great accomplishment, but I'm with Charlie Hustle here:

Ichiro Suzuki recorded the 4,000th hit of a career that spanned nine years in Japan and 13 here in the States tonight at Yankee Stadium. It was a typical Ichiro slap and he did it off a knuckleballer.

It was his 2,722nd as a major leaguer and that's why, according to Pete Rose he's going to have to do a lot more than get 256 more hits to catch Rose at 4,256 and be considered Baseball's Hit King™. According to YES play-by-play man Michael Kay, Rose said Ichiro's Japanese numbers were against inferior opponents and therefore don't count for purposes of his record. His teammates—and even one of his opponents, Munenori Kawasaki—however, thought the moment significant enough to stop the game and applaud.
I don't know how you can look at his MLB results and believe he wouldn't be breaking Rose's record.

 
Great accomplishment, but I'm with Charlie Hustle here:

Ichiro Suzuki recorded the 4,000th hit of a career that spanned nine years in Japan and 13 here in the States tonight at Yankee Stadium. It was a typical Ichiro slap and he did it off a knuckleballer.

It was his 2,722nd as a major leaguer and that's why, according to Pete Rose he's going to have to do a lot more than get 256 more hits to catch Rose at 4,256 and be considered Baseball's Hit King™. According to YES play-by-play man Michael Kay, Rose said Ichiro's Japanese numbers were against inferior opponents and therefore don't count for purposes of his record. His teammates—and even one of his opponents, Munenori Kawasaki—however, thought the moment significant enough to stop the game and applaud.
I don't know how you can look at his MLB results and believe he wouldn't be breaking Rose's record.
He would have, but he didn't. Japan baseball is entertaining, but it is not MLB. A slight step above minor league ball.

 
Pete shouldn't even give a ####. So Ichiro has 4,000 professional hits?....... add Pete's 427 minor league hits and Ichiro has a little further to go.

 
Pete shouldn't even give a ####. So Ichiro has 4,000 professional hits?....... add Pete's 427 minor league hits and Ichiro has a little further to go.
Rose never misses an opportunity to talk about himself whenever somebody puts a mic in his face.

 
Great accomplishment, but I'm with Charlie Hustle here:

Ichiro Suzuki recorded the 4,000th hit of a career that spanned nine years in Japan and 13 here in the States tonight at Yankee Stadium. It was a typical Ichiro slap and he did it off a knuckleballer.

It was his 2,722nd as a major leaguer and that's why, according to Pete Rose he's going to have to do a lot more than get 256 more hits to catch Rose at 4,256 and be considered Baseball's Hit King™. According to YES play-by-play man Michael Kay, Rose said Ichiro's Japanese numbers were against inferior opponents and therefore don't count for purposes of his record. His teammates—and even one of his opponents, Munenori Kawasaki—however, thought the moment significant enough to stop the game and applaud.
I don't know how you can look at his MLB results and believe he wouldn't be breaking Rose's record.
Huh? Thats not the argument

 
Great accomplishment, but I'm with Charlie Hustle here:

Ichiro Suzuki recorded the 4,000th hit of a career that spanned nine years in Japan and 13 here in the States tonight at Yankee Stadium. It was a typical Ichiro slap and he did it off a knuckleballer.

It was his 2,722nd as a major leaguer and that's why, according to Pete Rose he's going to have to do a lot more than get 256 more hits to catch Rose at 4,256 and be considered Baseball's Hit King™. According to YES play-by-play man Michael Kay, Rose said Ichiro's Japanese numbers were against inferior opponents and therefore don't count for purposes of his record. His teammates—and even one of his opponents, Munenori Kawasaki—however, thought the moment significant enough to stop the game and applaud.
I don't know how you can look at his MLB results and believe he wouldn't be breaking Rose's record.
Huh? Thats not the argument
Not from the quoted post, but I've heard it...

 
Good point in Mushnick's column today:

Reader Dave Oniffrey recalls when the media chose to ignore Ichiro Suzuki’s stardom in Japan to elect him, at 27, AL Rookie of the Year: “So why didn’t his Japanese League hits count toward his Rookie of the Year, but all of a sudden they count toward his 4,000 hits?”
 
Good point in Mushnick's column today:

Reader Dave Oniffrey recalls when the media chose to ignore Ichiro Suzuki’s stardom in Japan to elect him, at 27, AL Rookie of the Year: “So why didn’t his Japanese League hits count toward his Rookie of the Year, but all of a sudden they count toward his 4,000 hits?”
One is MLB achievement and the other is a personal career achievement for Ichiro

 
Good point in Mushnick's column today:

Reader Dave Oniffrey recalls when the media chose to ignore Ichiro Suzuki’s stardom in Japan to elect him, at 27, AL Rookie of the Year: “So why didn’t his Japanese League hits count toward his Rookie of the Year, but all of a sudden they count toward his 4,000 hits?”
You can't sneak anything past Mushnick when Dave Oniffrey has his back.

 
There was a good argument on the radio the other day about Ichiro. He could have stolen more bases, could have played CF, could have hit for more power and chose not to. I like Ichiro and he's a wonderful player, but he never left it all on the field. :2cents:

 
There was a good argument on the radio the other day about Ichiro. He could have stolen more bases, could have played CF, could have hit for more power and chose not to. I like Ichiro and he's a wonderful player, but he never left it all on the field. :2cents:
I'd still take Ichiro over Rex Hudler

 
There was a good argument on the radio the other day about Ichiro. He could have stolen more bases, could have played CF, could have hit for more power and chose not to. I like Ichiro and he's a wonderful player, but he never left it all on the field. :2cents:
I'd still take Ichiro over Rex Hudler
Sarah Jessica Parker had a few good years, too. :shrug:
I'm not buying the radio argument. Ichiro was 27 and had already lost a half step when he came over. It seems like it took him a couple of years to figure out American pickoff moves (he led the AL in CS in his second season) but he was still racking up 40 SB seasons up to age 37 He could have played CF except that Mike Cameron was already playing the position. By the time Cameron moved on, Ichiro was over 30 and already established in RF. Maybe he could have hit more HR but he was playing in the worst AL park for power hitters. Look at his physique and swing; he was never going to be a masher. He could have probably reached 20 HR in a season but at what cost to his AVG? I don't think it would have been a good tradeoff.

One thing Ichiro should have done more often is reach base via the walk. He only had one season with an OBP over .400 and finished top ten in the AL three times (2, 9 & 10). But he is who he is and still managed to score 100 R on seven occasions.

He'll be in the HoF before Pete Rose.

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I wish I had a nickel for every time an announcer claimed that Ichiro could hit a home run "any time he feels like it", evidently based on the fact that he hits HRs at will in batting practice. Yeah, he could definitely hit a home run every time up if he wanted to.... but who would want to do that??? It would just get boring after awhile.

 
I wish I had a nickel for every time an announcer claimed that Ichiro could hit a home run "any time he feels like it", evidently based on the fact that he hits HRs at will in batting practice. Yeah, he could definitely hit a home run every time up if he wanted to.... but who would want to do that??? It would just get boring after awhile.
lol they said the same thing about Boggs.
 

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