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I'd Trade Tyreek For _______. (1 Viewer)

kyoun1e

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Assume PPR league.

Obviously, nobody wants to sell him low, but you do what you gotta do to stay in the race.

Looking at Dave Richard's trade value chart over at CBS he's giving T. Hill a value of 27. (Take his POV for what it's worth, but considering other people read this stuff it's not completely irrelevant). Other WRs with values in the same neighborhood:

* R. Rice 28
* M. Evans 23
* G. Wilson 22
* D. Samuel 20
* D. London 19
* D. Adams 19
* C. Olave 18
* B. Aiyuk 18
* G. Pickens 17

A bit surprised Hill's value is still high. Looking at other sites I see similar values.

Honestly, the prospect of getting ANY of the above WRs for Hill is somewhat appealing.

Personally, I think Aiyuk could be the only realistic option. He's somewhat of a buy low himself who probably has a frustrated owner.

Curious, who is buying Hill or selling Hill and for what.

Thanks
 
Assume PPR league.

Obviously, nobody wants to sell him low, but you do what you gotta do to stay in the race.

Looking at Dave Richard's trade value chart over at CBS he's giving T. Hill a value of 27. (Take his POV for what it's worth, but considering other people read this stuff it's not completely irrelevant). Other WRs with values in the same neighborhood:

* R. Rice 28
* M. Evans 23
* G. Wilson 22
* D. Samuel 20
* D. London 19
* D. Adams 19
* C. Olave 18
* B. Aiyuk 18
* G. Pickens 17

A bit surprised Hill's value is still high. Looking at other sites I see similar values.

Honestly, the prospect of getting ANY of the above WRs for Hill is somewhat appealing.

Personally, I think Aiyuk could be the only realistic option. He's somewhat of a buy low himself who probably has a frustrated owner.

Curious, who is buying Hill or selling Hill and for what.

Thanks
I'd take all of them over him except Adams and Evans.

Great player of course but he's going to end up wasting a big chunk if not all of his age 30 season with sorry QB play.

I have been looking at making an offer for him though, to an owner who is waving the white flag and sold low on CMC last week so find this topic interesting.
 
I have Pickens on my bench currently and would trade him for Hill in a second. Not seeing much upside in Pitt this year for him, they're playing good Def and running decent and the QB play is perfunctory at best.
 
Assume PPR league.

Obviously, nobody wants to sell him low, but you do what you gotta do to stay in the race.

Looking at Dave Richard's trade value chart over at CBS he's giving T. Hill a value of 27. (Take his POV for what it's worth, but considering other people read this stuff it's not completely irrelevant). Other WRs with values in the same neighborhood:

* R. Rice 28
* M. Evans 23
* G. Wilson 22
* D. Samuel 20
* D. London 19
* D. Adams 19
* C. Olave 18
* B. Aiyuk 18
* G. Pickens 17

A bit surprised Hill's value is still high. Looking at other sites I see similar values.

Honestly, the prospect of getting ANY of the above WRs for Hill is somewhat appealing.

Personally, I think Aiyuk could be the only realistic option. He's somewhat of a buy low himself who probably has a frustrated owner.

Curious, who is buying Hill or selling Hill and for what.

Thanks
I'd take all of them over him except Adams and Evans.

Great player of course but he's going to end up wasting a big chunk if not all of his age 30 season with sorry QB play.

I have been looking at making an offer for him though, to an owner who is waving the white flag and sold low on CMC last week so find this topic interesting.
I totally get Adams. Similar situations. Crud QB play keeping both back.

Why Evans though?

I believe he's had some tough CB draws early in the season. That should change. See him as a buy low. And he has a QB that has proven he can get him the ball.
 
Tough to sell at his lowest value, but given the state of the Dolphins right now, I would take any WR on this list besides Pickens. Tyreek is going to lead to some of the most wild trade value spreads this season though. Yahoo trade market shows some people landing high end WR1s, some people getting WRs like Aiyuk, and some just shipping him off in package deals for WR3 value.
 
As a Tyreek owner....

* R. Rice.....all day
* M. Evans...redraft it's close but pass
* G. Wilson...pass
* D. Samuel....not even close
* D. London....mmmmm seriously?
* D. Adams...pass
* C. Olave...pass

It's tough, because in my mind I just assume Tua will be back in a month. I know that might not happen. I also know he may come back and get knocked out again. I know all this. I also know if Tua comes back, wears the guardian helmet, and just plays okay the thought of me moving Hill for anyone above outside of Rice would make me puke.
 
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Assume PPR league.

Obviously, nobody wants to sell him low, but you do what you gotta do to stay in the race.

Looking at Dave Richard's trade value chart over at CBS he's giving T. Hill a value of 27. (Take his POV for what it's worth, but considering other people read this stuff it's not completely irrelevant). Other WRs with values in the same neighborhood:

* R. Rice 28
* M. Evans 23
* G. Wilson 22
* D. Samuel 20
* D. London 19
* D. Adams 19
* C. Olave 18
* B. Aiyuk 18
* G. Pickens 17

A bit surprised Hill's value is still high. Looking at other sites I see similar values.

Honestly, the prospect of getting ANY of the above WRs for Hill is somewhat appealing.

Personally, I think Aiyuk could be the only realistic option. He's somewhat of a buy low himself who probably has a frustrated owner.

Curious, who is buying Hill or selling Hill and for what.

Thanks
I'd take all of them over him except Adams and Evans.

Great player of course but he's going to end up wasting a big chunk if not all of his age 30 season with sorry QB play.

I have been looking at making an offer for him though, to an owner who is waving the white flag and sold low on CMC last week so find this topic interesting.
I totally get Adams. Similar situations. Crud QB play keeping both back.

Why Evans though?

I believe he's had some tough CB draws early in the season. That should change. See him as a buy low. And he has a QB that has proven he can get him the ball.
Short answer is I'm not giving up Tyreek to get older and worse.

Longer answer I was honestly not big on Evans before the season started. Good stats, consistent, not great in PPR but obviously super consistent and good. Two years ago I thought he was slowing down. He proved me wrong last year or I should say most of last year but fact he trailed off big time in the second half makes me think the cliff may be coming.

I want to add two things.

I missed Deebo. Due to his calf injury I'd move him for Tyreek. I think that may only keep him out 1-2 more games but it's still a concern and while he's younger then Tyreek the way he plays may not have increased longevity.

Second thing everything I am saying about Tyreek is with the idea I think the most likely outcome is that Tua is returning this year. No one can know this for sure, but I think he wants to return and will if/when he's cleared. So if I'm giving up Tyreek I want high upside younger pieces back, conversely I'm not giving up high upside young pieces for him. But I'll give infrerior older players.
 
In dynasty it would take at least Hill + their 2025 1st to get Rice right now. Just my opinion of course.
Honestly in dynasty even then it would need to be a projected very good 1st or more added like you implied. If it's a likely late 1st I wouldn't be interested
 
In dynasty it would take at least Hill + their 2025 1st to get Rice right now. Just my opinion of course.
Honestly in dynasty even then it would need to be a projected very good 1st or more added like you implied. If it's a likely late 1st I wouldn't be interested
Will you say the same, or even me, if this time next year Rice is suspended and Miami drafts Cam Ward?
 
In dynasty it would take at least Hill + their 2025 1st to get Rice right now. Just my opinion of course.
Honestly in dynasty even then it would need to be a projected very good 1st or more added like you implied. If it's a likely late 1st I wouldn't be interested
Will you say the same, or even me, if this time next year Rice is suspended and Miami drafts Cam Ward?

I already fully expect Rice to be suspended next year and while still a lot of football to be played this year, still yes right now. Tyreek will be 31, and there’s a lot of if’s there on who may be under center next year. Rice will be 25 and highly likely still Mahomes go-to guy. With his route participation, yards after catch, target share, etc. continues like these first 3 games, only reason he probably won’t be ranked at the very top ahead of guys like Chase will likely be the suspension risk IMO.

Edit: although I certainly could be wrong!
 
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In redraft leagues. Nobody wants Tyreek. I have him and threw his name out to a few owners. One guy offered QJ for him. I asked about Rice, Harrison, and London and was shot down. His QB situation sucks.
 
This is really hard. I don't know what to do and I have him in a lot of leagues. If you think Tua is back after the 4 game IR, he's better than everyone on this list. If you think Tua's out for the season then it depends what QB they can bring in. The QB situation basically cannot stay like this. An NFL team just won't do it. They'll get SOMEONE playing decent back there.

I just can't figure out the Tua thing. Part of me thinks he will play soon. The situation won't be "fixed" 3 weeks from now, but if he wants to risk it will waiting another month help? Will waiting 2 months help? Will waiting until next season week1 help? Won't the same risks exist then?
 
This is really hard. I don't know what to do and I have him in a lot of leagues. If you think Tua is back after the 4 game IR, he's better than everyone on this list. If you think Tua's out for the season then it depends what QB they can bring in. The QB situation basically cannot stay like this. An NFL team just won't do it. They'll get SOMEONE playing decent back there.

I just can't figure out the Tua thing. Part of me thinks he will play soon. The situation won't be "fixed" 3 weeks from now, but if he wants to risk it will waiting another month help? Will waiting 2 months help? Will waiting until next season week1 help? Won't the same risks exist then?
Tua is done IMO.. Even if he comes back, he has to have a high injury risk, and plus how will he play, this has to be on his mind..

I am just glad I am in a redraft league, Hill was my first round pick, but I can move on from him after the season. Having him in dynasty with the situation got to be tough, with his age, his contract, and QB situation.

BTW, People are dumb if they are trading Rice for Hill and you know how I feel about Rice.
 
If you think Tua is back after the 4 game IR, he's better than everyone on this list.
I can't say with supreme confidence he'll be back after 4 weeks but I will say with that confidence he'll be back the first game he's cleared to return.

That would in fact make him better then anyone on this list right now, for this season, but not the most valuable dynasty asset even if you told me Tua was back after missing the minimum 4 games and would remain healthy over the next few years. To many talented young WR's on this list with almost entire careers before them.

The QB situation basically cannot stay like this. An NFL team just won't do it. They'll get SOMEONE playing decent back there.
And if Tua can't get cleared I believe this to be true. They will try and bring in someone who can at least play competent football or at least competent to throw a pass to Tyreek and Waddle. You can't have an offensive minded head coach and that much money invested in WR's and have the trigger man be this substandard. I don't know what public sentiment is in Miami but seems like malpractice on Grier or McDaniels part to think they had a viable backup QB on the roster.

But my belief Tua wants to return as soon as he can or they will do something to get a competent QB to get the ball to Tyreek is why I traded for him yesterday.
 
If you think Tua is back after the 4 game IR, he's better than everyone on this list.
I can't say with supreme confidence he'll be back after 4 weeks but I will say with that confidence he'll be back the first game he's cleared to return.

That would in fact make him better then anyone on this list right now, for this season, but not the most valuable dynasty asset even if you told me Tua was back after missing the minimum 4 games and would remain healthy over the next few years. To many talented young WR's on this list with almost entire careers before them.

The QB situation basically cannot stay like this. An NFL team just won't do it. They'll get SOMEONE playing decent back there.
And if Tua can't get cleared I believe this to be true. They will try and bring in someone who can at least play competent football or at least competent to throw a pass to Tyreek and Waddle. You can't have an offensive minded head coach and that much money invested in WR's and have the trigger man be this substandard. I don't know what public sentiment is in Miami but seems like malpractice on Grier or McDaniels part to think they had a viable backup QB on the roster.

But my belief Tua wants to return as soon as he can or they will do something to get a competent QB to get the ball to Tyreek is why I traded for him yesterday.
Who they going to bring in that is going to play competent football? All these guys are unsigned for a reason..
 
I wouldn't trade Hill for Rice
You are crazy.. Rice could be a top 3 WR in Fantasy this year.. Hill may not be a top 15.
Yeah no thanks. Hill ceiling so much higher and I expect Tua will be back soon
You have proof Tua will be back soon.. I would not be shocked if he is out for the season TBH.. Can't under estimate how serious concussion after consussion is..

Even at that, say Tua is out for next 4-6 weeks.. How long in FF can you wait on Hill? Rice as much as I hate him is a STUD and a #1 with a HOF QB He is almost a 6-7/100 yard a game guy, and Hill right now with Thompson and Boyle 3/40 is probably more then not.
 
I wouldn't trade Hill for Rice
You are crazy.. Rice could be a top 3 WR in Fantasy this year.. Hill may not be a top 15.
Yeah no thanks. Hill ceiling so much higher and I expect Tua will be back soon
You have proof Tua will be back soon.. I would not be shocked if he is out for the season TBH.. Can't under estimate how serious concussion after consussion is..

Even at that, say Tua is out for next 4-6 weeks.. How long in FF can you wait on Hill? Rice as much as I hate him is a STUD and a #1 with a HOF QB He is almost a 6-7/100 yard a game guy, and Hill right now with Thompson and Boyle 3/40 is probably more then not.
Disagree
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
If he has 3 bad weeks, and the Tua situation is still unknown.. Nobody is trading a top player for him in a Redraft league.

Dynasty.. He may have better value, but still at his age, and still a unclear QB future, who knows.
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
This is where we disagree
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
This is where we disagree
I don't get how you disagree.. You going to tell me with Thompson and Boyle, Hill has more value than Rice?
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
This is where we disagree
I don't get how you disagree.. You going to tell me with Thompson and Boyle, Hill has more value than Rice?
I am saying I would rather have Hill upside right now than Rice
 
If you think Tua is back after the 4 game IR, he's better than everyone on this list.
I can't say with supreme confidence he'll be back after 4 weeks but I will say with that confidence he'll be back the first game he's cleared to return.

That would in fact make him better then anyone on this list right now, for this season, but not the most valuable dynasty asset even if you told me Tua was back after missing the minimum 4 games and would remain healthy over the next few years. To many talented young WR's on this list with almost entire careers before them.

The QB situation basically cannot stay like this. An NFL team just won't do it. They'll get SOMEONE playing decent back there.
And if Tua can't get cleared I believe this to be true. They will try and bring in someone who can at least play competent football or at least competent to throw a pass to Tyreek and Waddle. You can't have an offensive minded head coach and that much money invested in WR's and have the trigger man be this substandard. I don't know what public sentiment is in Miami but seems like malpractice on Grier or McDaniels part to think they had a viable backup QB on the roster.

But my belief Tua wants to return as soon as he can or they will do something to get a competent QB to get the ball to Tyreek is why I traded for him yesterday.
Who they going to bring in that is going to play competent football? All these guys are unsigned for a reason..
There are always avenues, like what the Vikings showed last year
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
This is where we disagree
I don't get how you disagree.. You going to tell me with Thompson and Boyle, Hill has more value than Rice?
I think he’s in denial. Still no answer why he thinks tua will be back and back to top form
 
Hill's value will never be lower than it is right now. Why not wait and see how he looks with Huntley this week?
This is probably where most people will land. If he doesn't do anything to improve his value, chances your trade targets are still the same on potential alone anyways, and at the very least we'll have clarity to make a more informed decision, even if it means securing a less valuable piece than you'd like. That said, if you can find yourself a @Schmeabs who will trade you a TOP 3 WR, I'll just say I think you don't look a gift horse in the mouth ;)
This is a terrible post. I said I wouldn't trade Hill for someone like Rice. I never said anything about trading a Top 3 WR for Hill. Enough
Rice is way better value then Hill tho

I also own Hill, if I was offered Rice for Hill, I would take it in a second.
This is where we disagree
I don't get how you disagree.. You going to tell me with Thompson and Boyle, Hill has more value than Rice?
I think he’s in denial. Still no answer why he thinks tua will be back and back to top form
If I knew for a fact Tua wasn't coming back and it was Skylar or Boyle to finish out year I wouldn't have Hill in my top 25 prolly. I'm a HUGE Hill fan and it hurts to type that. Even Russell Wilson would work for me over whats on roster. Even a mediocre Tua can produce a decent Hill
 
As a Tyreek owner....

* R. Rice.....all day
* M. Evans...redraft it's close but pass
* G. Wilson...pass
* D. Samuel....not even close
* D. London....mmmmm seriously?
* D. Adams...pass
* C. Olave...pass

It's tough, because in my mind I just assume Tua will be back in a month. I know that might not happen. I also know he may come back and get knocked out again. I know all this. I also know if Tua comes back, wears the guardian helmet, and just plays okay the thought of me moving Hill for anyone above outside of Rice would make me puke.

There's still hope Tua is returning

* R. Rice.....all day (Looks like no suspension coming)
* M. Evans...pass
* G. Wilson...yes please
* D. Samuel....not yet, need to know more about the injury
* D. London.... only in Dynasty
* D. Adams...pass
* C. Olave...yes please

however, now might be the time to try to get a deal done; if Tua is IR the rest of the yr the value will get lower
 
I traded Aiyuk for Hill in a non-PPR redraft and feel good about it. A risk? Sure, but if Hill goes out and puts up 6-80 and a TD with Snoop in his first game as starter, his value will shoot back up.

Just like the stock market, all a matter of risk/reward. 🤷‍♂️
 
As a Tyreek owner....

* R. Rice.....all day
* M. Evans...redraft it's close but pass
* G. Wilson...pass
* D. Samuel....not even close
* D. London....mmmmm seriously?
* D. Adams...pass
* C. Olave...pass

It's tough, because in my mind I just assume Tua will be back in a month. I know that might not happen. I also know he may come back and get knocked out again. I know all this. I also know if Tua comes back, wears the guardian helmet, and just plays okay the thought of me moving Hill for anyone above outside of Rice would make me puke.

There's still hope Tua is returning

* R. Rice.....all day (Looks like no suspension coming)
* M. Evans...pass
* G. Wilson...yes please
* D. Samuel....not yet, need to know more about the injury
* D. London.... only in Dynasty
* D. Adams...pass
* C. Olave...yes please

however, now might be the time to try to get a deal done; if Tua is IR the rest of the yr the value will get lower
Rice IMO will def be suspended next season.. 4-8 games would be my bet, but this season is by far better than Hill with hill's QB question. In fact with Tua, it's pretty close. Prob still take Hill, but not without Tua.
 
Based on the comments I see here, fair to see everyone in a redraft league would gladly take Olave for Hill?

Was offered that last week and passed. Now regretting it and seeing if the owner is still interested. I doubt it, but they are 0-3 and grasping at straws.
 

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