JoeSteeler
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Thought we could use one thread for IDP training camp news.
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IDP Training Camp News & Observations (2 Viewers)
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JoeSteeler
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Arizona Cardinals DT Walter Nolen (calf) suffered a calf injury during training and will miss some time, according to head coach Jonathan Gannon. Gannon said he does not know if the injury will force Nolen to miss the start of the regular season.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
The Raiders released Wilkins (foot) on Thursday, Adam Schefter of ESPN reports.
ANALYSIS
This news comes as a shocker, as the Raiders signed Wilkins to a five-year, $110 million dollar deal last March. Per Schefter, Las Vegas is releasing the defensive lineman with the designation of terminated vested veteran, and the organization voided the remaining $35.2 million of the guaranteed money left on his deal last month. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network adds that the Raiders and Wilkins have had an "ongoing dispute" over his foot injury, as Wilkins declined having a second surgery despite the team's request for him to go under the knife again to address the issue. Schefter reports that Wilkins filed a grievance with the NFLPA on Thursday, so it appears that the player and the organization are headed for a dispute over guaranteed money. Regardless of how that turns out, Wilkins' tenure with Las Vegas will end with him having played in just five games and tallying 17 tackles, including 2.0 sacks.
ANALYSIS
This news comes as a shocker, as the Raiders signed Wilkins to a five-year, $110 million dollar deal last March. Per Schefter, Las Vegas is releasing the defensive lineman with the designation of terminated vested veteran, and the organization voided the remaining $35.2 million of the guaranteed money left on his deal last month. Ian Rapoport of NFL Network adds that the Raiders and Wilkins have had an "ongoing dispute" over his foot injury, as Wilkins declined having a second surgery despite the team's request for him to go under the knife again to address the issue. Schefter reports that Wilkins filed a grievance with the NFLPA on Thursday, so it appears that the player and the organization are headed for a dispute over guaranteed money. Regardless of how that turns out, Wilkins' tenure with Las Vegas will end with him having played in just five games and tallying 17 tackles, including 2.0 sacks.
Jordan Hicks retires. After JOK injury. Browns can’t buy any luck this off-season.
Who becomes the other guy to own beside Schwesinger whose value should increase
Baker. Vet but has been brought in and cut quickly by few teams in lastbyear
Bush. - Former 1st rounder. Been with Browns for a few years now.
Diabete. Young guy who played last year. So-so results. Started ahead of Bush
Reid - Young guy who gets some promising reps
FA. Few out there. Bentley, White, Mosley maybe
Right now FBG has Baker in middle and Diabete as Strong side. Not that any of this matters as most run 4-2-5 these days in some capacity. .
Who becomes the other guy to own beside Schwesinger whose value should increase
Baker. Vet but has been brought in and cut quickly by few teams in lastbyear
Bush. - Former 1st rounder. Been with Browns for a few years now.
Diabete. Young guy who played last year. So-so results. Started ahead of Bush
Reid - Young guy who gets some promising reps
FA. Few out there. Bentley, White, Mosley maybe
Right now FBG has Baker in middle and Diabete as Strong side. Not that any of this matters as most run 4-2-5 these days in some capacity. .
massraider
Footballguy
I'm going to assume Baker, and keep an eye on Diabate.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
LBs never get old. They just suddenly quit playing.
The Future Champs
Footballguy
:crickets: I’ve got Speights, and I’d drop him for Landman. Reeder is dead to me.
Articles read
FBG loves Landman
Another site expects Reeder to be cut. Does not fit what DC likes
Another thinks Landman/Reeder will start but Speights and Paul will finish
Paul is guy who fits DC scheme the best. Fast, can cover and still plays the run nicely. So does Dolac.
It sounds like cluster but give me Paul long term
FBG loves Landman
Another site expects Reeder to be cut. Does not fit what DC likes
Another thinks Landman/Reeder will start but Speights and Paul will finish
Paul is guy who fits DC scheme the best. Fast, can cover and still plays the run nicely. So does Dolac.
It sounds like cluster but give me Paul long term
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Here is a recent FBG article FWIW
A Los Angeles Rams Linebacker You Should Target - Footballguys
Nate Landman has an opportunity to become a three-down inside linebacker in 2025 on the Rams
massraider
Footballguy
Raiders stuff:
Elandon Roberts seems like LB1, and Devin White and Pratt fighting for LB2. I would guess Pratt if forced to choose, but 3 safety looks seem like they will be a thing as they are light on CB. I'm very high on Chinn this year, I think he's going to be in favorable locations on the field. They also signed old friend Jamal Adams, and he's practicing with the LBs, so lot of moving parts.
Elandon Roberts seems like LB1, and Devin White and Pratt fighting for LB2. I would guess Pratt if forced to choose, but 3 safety looks seem like they will be a thing as they are light on CB. I'm very high on Chinn this year, I think he's going to be in favorable locations on the field. They also signed old friend Jamal Adams, and he's practicing with the LBs, so lot of moving parts.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Thanks . Any news on a Koonce as he makes his way back from the torn ACL?
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Harmon looking the part so far.
“Derrick Harmon is already a monster,” Steelers Now beat reporter Alan Saunders wrote on July 24, live from training camp. “He started in the base defense, blew up a running play, batted down a pass, and he’s still at the very early edge of his learning curve in terms of technique and learning the defense.”
Saunders added that “[Harmon] can still get a lot better, but I think he’s in line for a special rookie season.”
“Derrick Harmon is already a monster,” Steelers Now beat reporter Alan Saunders wrote on July 24, live from training camp. “He started in the base defense, blew up a running play, batted down a pass, and he’s still at the very early edge of his learning curve in terms of technique and learning the defense.”
Saunders added that “[Harmon] can still get a lot better, but I think he’s in line for a special rookie season.”
massraider
Footballguy
He's back, and I haven't heard a word about limitations. Full steam ahead I think.
Entering his contract year as well, so expect full wanna-make-life-changing-money effort from Koonce.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Denver Broncos LB Drew Sanders (foot) suffered a tendon injury in his foot, and the ailment is expected to keep him sidelined for an extended period. He was carted off the practice field Saturday, July 26, and Sanders is not expected to return before the regular season opener Sept. 7. He and the team will decide on potential surgery in the next few days.
Bump Strnad?
Bump Strnad?
Tick
Footballguy
I'm not falling for this again.
J Giles Band
Footballguy
These requests are often followed by a new contract announcement and everyone kisses and makes up. Of course, we will see... but I'd be shocked if otherwise.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
C.J. Gardner-Johnson carted off with serious right leg injury
Texans safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson carted off with serious right leg injury: ‘Heartbreaking
Texans safety injured
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
C.J. Gardner-Johnson carted off with serious right leg injury
Texans safety C.J. Gardner-Johnson carted off with serious right leg injury: ‘Heartbreaking
Texans safety injuredwww.click2houston.com
That sucks, love CJ. Especially brutal after signing with a new team.
The article mentions a few names to keep an eye on. "Pitre has significant experience at safety in this defense. If he shifted to safety, Arthur Maulet or Myles Bryant could be the nickel."
Pitre is the obvious one (and probably rostered everywhere) but Myles Bryant could be worth an add if he mans the nickel slot (which he played some during his time in NE).
EDIT: Bryant is only on my radar in CB required leagues.
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massraider
Footballguy
I've been following this guy on Twitter a bit, https://x.com/reinhardNFL, but never gone to his site.
www.statbutler.com
Preseason snap counts are hard to come by sometimes, this was helpful. Charts for how many snaps everyone played, and when. Very cool
The Stat Butler | Anthony Reinhard | Substack
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www.statbutler.com
Preseason snap counts are hard to come by sometimes, this was helpful. Charts for how many snaps everyone played, and when. Very cool
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Jamal Adams getting LB snaps and looking good. Worth a speculative add IMO to see how it shakes out.
www.sportingnews.com
www.nbcsports.com
Jamal Adams 'pushing for starting spot' on Las Vegas Raiders defense | Sporting News
Jamal Adams, who has made a position change to linebacker, is constructing a legitimate starting case on the Las Vegas Raiders defense.
Jamal Adams embracing move to weakside linebacker
Jamal Adams was a Pro Bowl safety for Pete Carroll in Seattle, but when Adams signed with Carroll's Raiders in July, the head coach had some news for Adams.
www.nbcsports.com
Still listed as a safety on MFL. Could be sneaky play
J Giles Band
Footballguy
Although I can see MFL changing Adams to LB in the late August position update as well.
massraider
Footballguy
It's weird with the Raiders, because Pratt hasn't played at either of the two LB spots that matter, but he's listed as a starter, but he's been playing like an old school SLB , on the edge. Lot of 3 LB looks this summer. Anyway, Elandon is locked in, #1 and Devin White is the other starter. In theory, he's the 2nd guy to own. But if White was to falter, which.... why would anyone expect anything else?--I assumed Pratt would be the guy. Now I'm wondering if Adams wouldn't be the guy to see those other nickel looks that matter.
White by the way has supposedly had a good camp and maybe he keeps the job.
But I'm holding Adams as a S on MFL, because those CB playing S, and S playing LB anomalies usually work out, in my experience.
You can always get a S, why not hold one for a month or so and see if you get a 3 down LB out of the deal?
White by the way has supposedly had a good camp and maybe he keeps the job.
But I'm holding Adams as a S on MFL, because those CB playing S, and S playing LB anomalies usually work out, in my experience.
You can always get a S, why not hold one for a month or so and see if you get a 3 down LB out of the deal?
massraider
Footballguy
Been hanging on to Kyle Dugger, to see if i can get a an off- brand Jeremy Chinn type, but he's been running with the 2s.
rockaction
Footballguy
Grabbed White last year when he signed with Houston and my LBs are thin so I was able to hold in hopes. If he doesn’t chucklehead in Vegas he could be a find. Should get plenty of tackle opportunities there. I wouldn’t count out Adams but he will last no more than five games if I had to bet. And I wouldn’t take the over on four either. He’s had some really serious injuries and they are contact-related if I’m not mistaken. I’ll look that up.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Just read ges not very good at coverage... so thats not a good sign
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Any word on the HOU LB situation? Saw EJ Speed was in the pre season game early
Tick
Footballguy
Gregg Rosenthal speculated he could be traded.
Tick
Footballguy
I did some searching and couldn’t really figure it out - Macri might have covered it behind a paywall, but he didn’t hit that game in his excellent IDP recap on YouTube.
It sounds like To’oTo’o is ahead of Harris.
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
thank you for the updates, hopefully we learn more this weekend
warpig33
Footballguy
What about Speed? I thought Tootoo was competing with Speed for that LB spot?
Tick
Footballguy
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/stock-report-preseason-game-20810418.php (on my phone I can still scroll and read one line at a time above the subscribe box)
It’s one of those preseason things - Speed looked great, but the starters didn’t play. We have no idea whether the door is open for Speed to challenge TooToo.
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
This should be on any Dugger owners radar. The camp and preseason news has been consistent about Dugger being demoted. Craig Woodson (R) taking a starting safety spot alongside Peppers and Hawkins. I am unsure which guy (if any) will be a startable, box-type safety.
