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If brady, manning, romo and brees are NOT on your board (1 Viewer)
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If you go RB/RB/WR/WR in the first 4 rounds (whichever order) then someone like Big Ben or (outside chance) Carson Palmer could be there in the 5th. If not, then you'll probably have to target 2 QBs. McNabb could be one of them assuming he's healthy enough to give you 7 decent games this season. Garrard is a good QB, but who are his WRs? Cutler is probably decent to target. Favre could be part of your QBBC. I am staying far away from Hasselbeck this year.
Anonymous Internet User
Footballguy
Then I go QBBC by taking: Eli, Cutler, Schaub, Leinart in the later rounds and picking based on matchups.
Justloveit
Footballguy
McNabb
Schaub
Garrard
Schaub
Garrard
Chris Smith
The Head Goon!
I am definitely targeting Ben Roethlisberger in round five this season. He is going to have a big season. If not him, I have been looking at Matt Schaub in the middle rounds. He looks very good this season and I love the Texans system. He'll have a good season and can be had for cheap.
Other mid-round possibilities include
Brett Favre
David Garrard
Matt Leinart
Other mid-round possibilities include
Brett Favre
David Garrard
Matt Leinart
EBF
Footballguy
Roethlisberger and McNabb are two guys I'd look hard at once the top 4 guys are gone. Palmer is another QB capable of top 5 scoring. In the later rounds I like Schaub/Rosenfels and Leinart/Warner. I've also grabbed Brady Quinn late as a cheap breakout candidate. I have no faith in Anderson and I think the Browns system is conducive to high QB scoring.
PizzaDeliveryGuy
extra sausage
McNabb is a steal but as always you need to back him up wit another solid QB.
Cutler should keep improving, I really like him this year.
Schaub and Kitna can be had for very cheap and could be top 10.
Cutler should keep improving, I really like him this year.
Schaub and Kitna can be had for very cheap and could be top 10.
HellToupee
Footballguy
I'm targeting Roethlisberger as soon aa Brees comes off the board
thecardiackid
Footballguy
Cutler in the 7th (14 team league)
Otherwise even later w/ Leinhart (10th-11th) w/ Warner in the 13th or so.
Knowing the history of my other owners, there will be at least 4 qbs off the board before my 2nd pick. Crazy w/ 4 pt tds for qbs, but true.
Otherwise even later w/ Leinhart (10th-11th) w/ Warner in the 13th or so.
Knowing the history of my other owners, there will be at least 4 qbs off the board before my 2nd pick. Crazy w/ 4 pt tds for qbs, but true.
JMJ
Footballguy
And what WRs did he have last year when throwing 28 TDs?His leading WR was Bobby "freaking" Engram. Bobby Engram? The guy is a stud no matter who he is throwing to and Holmgren's system is a big part of why.
McBokonon
Footballguy
3 of the 4 Seahawks' top receivers last years are either hurt and will miss at least week one this year, or are no longer with the team. That leaves Burleson as the only Seattle WR that will be healthy enough to play who's caught 15 passes in a season. I appreciate Hass's history, but at some point you have to start wondering if you aren't better off looking elsewhere.
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Jayrod
Footballguy
The RB's will be better than last year, Burleson is still young and improving and they will finally have a good pass catching TE in the rookie (Carlson....I think)And their D is great and they have a huge home field advantage.
I think Hass will be fine this year.
ETA: And there are 6 games against the gosh-aweful NFC West defenses.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Derek Anderson (if everything is ok with his concussion from tonight). He is having a very good camp but people are doubting him and will see the Giants preseason game as an indicator as to how his season will play out. I don't think he is on as short of a leash as people are assuming and with the talent in Cleveland I don't think he will have trouble putting up very nice fantasy stats. It appears that he could be really good value as many people are shying away from him this year.
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
I took Delhomme, Favre, Leinart and Warner; all after round 9 recently. We have 17 spots on our roster with 9 starters. I did not draft a K so I plan to dump the loser of the AZ QB battle for a K. I like this ABBC combo a lot. Looking at the schedules, between them, you get some great match ups with the Bills; Fins; Saints; Rams etc
Unlucky
Phenom
Schaub, Schaub, and Schaub.
I'm not sure where's he's being drafted right now, but he represents the most value to me and I'm totally ok with reaching for him by a round or two.
Also, Kitna and Aaron Rodgers. Both are good value and have excellent WRs catching passes from them, but they are being drafted too late.
Throw Kurt Warner in there as well, since I think he's better than Leinart and will eventually start. Great value from him in round 14 or so if he starts.
I'm not sure where's he's being drafted right now, but he represents the most value to me and I'm totally ok with reaching for him by a round or two.
Also, Kitna and Aaron Rodgers. Both are good value and have excellent WRs catching passes from them, but they are being drafted too late.
Throw Kurt Warner in there as well, since I think he's better than Leinart and will eventually start. Great value from him in round 14 or so if he starts.
Unlucky
Phenom
While I'm not down on Ben per se, I'm quite worried that Mendenhall will get a lot of short TDs and Ben's TD passes could drop into the 22 to 25 range. Just saying that it's possible, and that will hurt Ben's numbers big time. And the fact that with an improved running game, the Steelers could throw a little less often. I think Ben is going about where he should, but when I have a guy like Schaub ranked higher and he's there 5 rounds later, I know what I'm targeting.
AtomicDogg97
Footballguy
I never draft a quarterback early, it is always better to wait and then take two quarterbacks late and play the matchups.
This year I am trying to get two out of : Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Schaub, David Gerrard.
This year I am trying to get two out of : Brett Favre, Jay Cutler, Eli Manning, Matt Schaub, David Gerrard.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
I don't mind:
Aaron Rodgers, Garrard, Cutler, Farve, Kitna and Campbell
All those guys should allow you to be aggressive early on scooping up top Wr's and RB's
Aaron Rodgers, Garrard, Cutler, Farve, Kitna and Campbell
All those guys should allow you to be aggressive early on scooping up top Wr's and RB's
gman74
Footballguy
Where is all the Garrard love comming from. Are you guys in leagues that give pts for handing the ball off to Freddie and MJD for td's?
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
Footballguy
Last year, he finished 16th overall at QB in fantasy production in just 12 games. He had 18 Td's and just 3 INT's while running one in. If he plays those other 4 games, he easily throws 22, 23 td's. That puts him as a legimate QB 1 and someone you don't have to spend a high draft pick on, which is what this thread is about. If there's a matchup you don't love, then you don't feel like you have to start him since you should have a decent QB to go with him, one of the above would do.
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Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
Funny how many are downgrading Hasselbach because his WRs are banged up, but are not doing the same for Garrard...who is much less proven and has a lower ceiling, IMO.
I like Eli Manning and Schaub. Manning looked great last night, without his top two WRs...picked right up where he left off last year.
I like Eli Manning and Schaub. Manning looked great last night, without his top two WRs...picked right up where he left off last year.
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Defending Champs
Footballguy
I like Kitna slipping under the radar.
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Manning looked like he "got it" last year at the end of the season. If thats true, and I'm in the camp that thinks it is, he'll vault into a perennial top 10 guy.
Alias
Footballguy
If I were to do that in my 16 teamer ~10 QB's would be off the board come my 5.02 pick:Top 4 by ADP:1) Cutler2) EManning - he may not even be there depending on how the rest of his preseason is3) Garrard4) DelhommeOther notables:* Rivers* Young* Favre - would be an interesting pick, but would be tough to time, 5.02 is too early and he probably would be taken in the next 28 picks.I am really looking at a top 4QB with my 2nd pick at 2.15 depending on who falls to me at WR; @ RB there will be nothing of value left, about 25 RB's will have been taken by then. RB's I would be looking at are: (SYoung, LWhite, JStewart, Rudi, Forte)bucsbaby said:
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brednbuddah
Footballguy
In a 14 team league too, I see Cutler going mid-to-late 6th. He should do well this season.Hasselbeck will slide a bit due to everyone down on the WRs - nice value there.thecardiackid said:
Big Ben will have to throw a lot due to FWP not finding any holes in that line.
Delhomme should bounce back - again, nice value there.
Kitna - 550+ attempts, 4000+ yds, around 20TDs two years in a row. INTs are high, but not a bad QB2.
Something like Hasselbeck and Delhomme would suit me fine.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Because Garrard put up those #'s with the same ragtag group and have actually improved with Porter over Wilford (by how much can be debated, but it's at least SOME improvement).Hass's security blanket in Engram is out and their WR's are going to be out longer than Porter/Williams. Hass's price is also higher than Garrard. I don't think Hass is going to completely bomb, but he's going as the QB8-9 off the board and that's just too high for me for a guy who is almost a virtual lock to NOT exceed that draft spot. Garrard is going a bit lower and, IMO, has at least a chance to outproduce that slot.
Buck Bradcanon
Footballguy
No need to overpay for Schaub, but his value IMO comes from the following:1. While they are getting better as a franchise, they will still be behind in several games and have to throw the football.crowe1130 said:
2. Even when they are not behind, they have no running backs to depend on on a consistent basis.
3. Premier WR and a nice supporting cast with Walter, Jacoby Jones, etc.
4. SOD may wind up being Owen Daniels. Put up Top 8 TE #'s last year with only 3 TDs. Id be shocked if he didnt have 5 or 6 Tds this year and the same receiving totals.
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