Andy Dufresne
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I can't think of one better.
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Dodge
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It'll be up there. The Road to Redemption. After losing to the Cowboys twice, the Patriots twice (pre and regular season) and the Packers once, come back in the post season to beat them all for the Championship World Title after knocking off an 18-0 team. Makes for a good dramatic NFL Films story.
I'm not sure if it beats Namath's story. Could come close.
I'm not sure if it beats Namath's story. Could come close.
Texasmouth
Footballguy
I hate the Giants but the answer to this question is yes.
Most people picked them to beat the Bucs but the Bucs were a division winner.
No one in their right mind picked them to go TO Dallas and beat the Cowboys. The Cowboys were 13-3 and an early favorite for the Super bowl.
NO ONE gave them any chance to go into the frozen tundra and win.
No one is giving them a chance to even get within 10 points of beating the undefeated, possibly best team of all time, Patriots.
If they win. They earned it, they deserved it and it is the best playoff run in history.
Most people picked them to beat the Bucs but the Bucs were a division winner.
No one in their right mind picked them to go TO Dallas and beat the Cowboys. The Cowboys were 13-3 and an early favorite for the Super bowl.
NO ONE gave them any chance to go into the frozen tundra and win.
No one is giving them a chance to even get within 10 points of beating the undefeated, possibly best team of all time, Patriots.
If they win. They earned it, they deserved it and it is the best playoff run in history.
Maroney=Speed
Footballguy
No, Red Soxs winning 8 in arow.
I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.
Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?
Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.
That Yank fans had to hurt.
I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.
Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?
Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.
That Yank fans had to hurt.
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New York fans might get back to even after that epic collapse from the Mets this year 
but in all seriousness it would be a great story, i'm gonna hate to hear it all the time from giants fans...but i think i'd rather hear that and be able to argue that the Pats aren't the greatest team in history, more or less the superbowl is worse case scenario no matter who wins
but in all seriousness it would be a great story, i'm gonna hate to hear it all the time from giants fans...but i think i'd rather hear that and be able to argue that the Pats aren't the greatest team in history, more or less the superbowl is worse case scenario no matter who wins
Maroney=Speed
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85 Bears, if IF Peyton doesn't fumble they might have shut out the Pats that year.Yes that Bears team went on a nice ride.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I like the Bears citation. That was a great run.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
The what-who-where?
Workhorse
Footballguy
Never heard of that one?1983 76ers.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
I think that was the Sixers in '83, though I think the Lakers in 2001 was just as good.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Those were pretty good runs. I don't pay much attention to basketball.
brady2moss
Footballguy
answering quicky.. "Maybe" didn't do too much research.
I'll tell you what going through Tampa, Dallas, and Green Bay all on the road and beating an18-0 team is pretty darn impressive.
I'll tell you what going through Tampa, Dallas, and Green Bay all on the road and beating an18-0 team is pretty darn impressive.
Ghost Rider
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I think the Steelers run in '05 was more impressive. As the 6 seed, they beat the top 3 seeds in a very tough AFC (as opposed to the Giants beating the chump NFC teams) and then beat the number 1 seed from the NFC in the Super Bowl. And they won three of the games by double digits, and the only close game (vs. Indy) wouldn't have been close had it not been for that blown call on the Manning INT.
Andy Dufresne
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I'd say that's close, but beating Seattle in the Super Bowl wouldn't be like the Giants beating the Pats.
The Kansas Comet
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Waiting for bitter Seattle fans to address this last point...
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
True, but Pittsburgh's run through the AFC in '05 was far more impressive than the run the Giants just made through the NFC. Also, I would put the '97 Broncos into this discussion. In the AFC, they demolished the Jags at home and then won at KC and at Pitt (two of the hardest places in the NFL to win) before beating the defending champs, the Packers, in the Super Bowl.
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Phurfur
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I voted maybe because I couldn't think of any off the top of my head but this is one.
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This was the one I thought of, too, when I voted no.N.C. State, IIRC, also had an insane march Madness run one year
Ghost Rider
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You have to look at what conference each team was in. Pitt is in the AFC, which has been much stronger than the NFC for years, while the Giants are in the NFC. In '05, the Steelers at 11-5 were the 6 seed. In the NFC this year, the 3 seed was 10-6. That says it all about how strong the respective conferences were for these two teams to go through.
Iwannabeacowboybaby!
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We get too caught up in Ever's and Greatest of All times and it's nearly impossible to compare between sports and college sports etc....
Just sticking with football, as far as the underdog role I'd say it would up there on the list. To defeat the Cowboys after losing twice, the Packers who they lost to in week 2, beating Tampa on the road and IF they beat NE after losing to them as well, it would be difficult not to mention this in the same breath with any other teams' post season in the NFL.
The problem with all of this is that they aren't going to win and are possibly facing the best team anyone's ever seen. I guess the time to dream about this is now because after Feb. 3 it won't be talked about, the pool will be flooded with stats about NE and how they've etched themselves into history as the greatest team with the greatest season of all time.
Just sticking with football, as far as the underdog role I'd say it would up there on the list. To defeat the Cowboys after losing twice, the Packers who they lost to in week 2, beating Tampa on the road and IF they beat NE after losing to them as well, it would be difficult not to mention this in the same breath with any other teams' post season in the NFL.
The problem with all of this is that they aren't going to win and are possibly facing the best team anyone's ever seen. I guess the time to dream about this is now because after Feb. 3 it won't be talked about, the pool will be flooded with stats about NE and how they've etched themselves into history as the greatest team with the greatest season of all time.
Abraham
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That is clearly a homer argument. The Steelers were 1 game better then the Giants, and the record of their opponents so far was 1 game better then that of the Giants. I don't think going to Denver and winning that game is on par with beating a 13-3 GB team in 4 degree weather. Keep in mind the Steelers knocked Carson Palmer out of the game in Cincy almost immediately, so it's silly to say they got Cincy's best punch, etc...
Chase Stuart
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I think the '04 Pats run might have been better.
And the Bears run is overrated. Beating Dieter Brock and Tony Eason in the championship game and Super Bowl deserves little praise. Yes, Chicago blew those teams out, but they faced possibly the worst SB opponent ever and one of the weakest NFCC teams ever.
And the Bears run is overrated. Beating Dieter Brock and Tony Eason in the championship game and Super Bowl deserves little praise. Yes, Chicago blew those teams out, but they faced possibly the worst SB opponent ever and one of the weakest NFCC teams ever.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
I am a Broncos fan, so that couldn't possibly be a homer argument. Wanna try again?
Abraham
Footballguy
Sure it is. You're trying to make the Broncos out better then they were.
Kuz
Footballguy
You know this to be true already.. I'm guessing you were saying the same thing against the Cowboys & Packers.. I for one think this game will be a close one to say they won't win is kind of a dumb statement..
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Strike two. You are down in the count. You gonna go down swinging or looking?
Note: I was stunned when the Broncos got to the AFC title game in '05, as I never thought they were that great of a team that year, so for them to have made it that far in the tough AFC was a tremendous credit to the franchise.
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I would put Villanova in '85, Jets on their run to superbowl 3, bears in '85, Liverpool in champions leage in '05, the Red sox in '04, and George Mason in '06 (despite not winning) all from the top of my head to have had better postseason runs than the Giants will if htey beat the Patriots.
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Workhorse
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I was just thinking about that.12-415-113-3Combined playoff opponent's winning percentage: .833That was a tough road.
Bill Lust
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In football, I agree with this. In baseball, the Red Sox in 2004 won eight games in a row after being down 0-3 and their final three outs in the ALCS, beating two 100-win teams in the process. The White Sox also won 8 straight games in 2005.
NY/NJMFDIVER
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It would be close, and maybe the contrast to work, but there was something very special to being "Broadway Joe". Right guy, right place, right time, and his personality forged that legend as much as anything. Eli might be too low key, but personally, he may define his "legend"(IF he can win) in a different way by betraying so much of the "me first" modern athletics, by taking massive critcism in stride, and just going out and doing his business without hype, but pure efficeny. Eli will go straight to those late 90's Yankees levels of reverence if he wins THIS bowl. To slay the dragon, man, that would be something. Of course, a long road to hoe, and these guys are really cuttin the pie with the media exposure, I wish they were a little be more down to business. Its been a great run, but there's one more hill to climb, but if they climb that, they'll be NY stars for 50 years.
phthalatemagic
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Except the post season included the three loses. Your ignoring that fact is yet another reason why New England area fans are the worst sport fans in the history of the universe.No, Red Soxs winning 8 in arow.I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.That Yank fans had to hurt.
Tanner9919
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the Steelers and the Raiders are currently the only two teams to win a SB from the WC spot. NYG has a chance to be the third team to do so. but this Giants post season isn't even as exciting as their 1990 season, when we had 8 great days of NYG football, between the mauling that happened in the NFC championship game when Marshall knocked Montana out cold, and the Roger Craig fumble late in the game, the DeOssie fake punt run for the first down and the Bahr FG..and then, to go to the SB against the mighty Bills, as a 14 pt dog, and win on the last second FG attempt by Norwood, was as exciting an NFL post-season from any one team,you're ever going to find..I'll also add the 1994 NY RANGERS post season was absolutely one of the all-time great runs in the history of pro sports..the game 7 vs. NJ Devils , game 7 vs Vancouver, Pavel Bure's shot hitting the post, and within seconds NY scores...I'm a Devils fan, and I can tell you that was a GREAT post season, even as a Devils' fan. Had the Knicks ever beaten the Bulls and won a Title back in the 90's, any of those post season's would've been remarkable no doubt..and even with their losing in the Conference Championships, they still made for `OUTSTANDING , nail-biting , at the edge of your seat' sports viewing...The Mets' 1986 post season was incredible..Even if they Giants win next Sunday, I'd be VERY hesitant to say the Giants 2007/8 post-season was the best ever.
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the hairy scotsman
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No, Red Soxs winning 8 in arow.I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.That Yank fans had to hurt.
'sAnother good one is the 1990 Reds, who faced the Defending World Champ Oakland A's, who were heavy favorites and everyone's pick to be a baseball dynasty. The A's boasted three consecutive ROY's in McGwire, Conseco, and Weiss. Ace Dave Stewart and closer Dennis Eckersly led the pitching staff.The Reds swept them in the WS, with their own bullpen (Nasty Boys Charlton, Myers, and Dibble) shutting out the A's in 9 innings of work.After trailing in the Formula 1 World Driving Championship all season long, Ferrari's Kimi Raikkonnen erased a 17 point deficit behind leader Lewis Hamilton in the final two races of the 2007 season, winning the championship with consecutive grand prix wins in Shanghai, China and Interlagos, Brazil. He finished the last four races 1st, 3rd, 1st, and 1st. There are lots of bigtime pro sports out there in the world, and numerous examples of incredible runs in the late season or the post-season. You don't even have to look back far at all. Trying to judge whose finishing run was better, across sports, is ridiculous.
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radiohead417
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What about the 1994-1995 Houston Rockets?
They beat the Jazz in 5, a STACKED suns team in 7, the Spurs in 6 and swept the Shaq/Penny Magic in the finals. That's a #3, #1, & #2 seeds in the first three rounds, then a #1 seed in the finals.
They beat the Jazz in 5, a STACKED suns team in 7, the Spurs in 6 and swept the Shaq/Penny Magic in the finals. That's a #3, #1, & #2 seeds in the first three rounds, then a #1 seed in the finals.
Reaper
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St Louis was meh.The Red Sox were thought by many to be the favorite going in to the Yankee series.. then the Yankees grab a game when Schilling goes down and then Schilling comes back and grabs the game back....Up 3-0 as a Yankee fan I knew it was one game at a time and never counted it over.. Two Great teams battling mano y mano....Bottom line, it was two real good teams that were pretty equal in talent - again, I believe the Sox were favored by many and had the pitching matchups before the series....Any time that season, you could have most baseball people saying both teams were among the best 2-3 in the game.... You put the best two teams of any sport on the field together and in every single game ANY team could win it... It really never shocked me - itr sucked but, it was very possible all along with that Sox lineup and fire power.... Do the Giants have relative weapons like that????In the NFL now, you would NEVER have had anyone say the Giants are any where near the talent of the Patriots... The Giants weren't even said to be the best NFC east team.. Where are the Giants Manny and Ortiz.... Where is the Giants pitching advantage?On paper, going into the game, the Pats are HUGE favorites....I'd personally be more shocked if the Giants pull this off....... Underdogs in Dallas, Green Bay and Vs the Pats.... Talk of the best team EVER - the best Season EVER , the best QB ever... PERFECTION... SHEESH, to lose to the team and town that wanted to Fire Coughlin and Dump Eli to THIS.... No, there would never be a bigger loss or upset that this.... You can't have "The Perfect" team Vs the team that wasn't expected to make the playoffs and compare it to anything else IMO....Though the Miracle On Ice is up there as well.No, Red Soxs winning 8 in arow.I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.That Yank fans had to hurt.
One or two of the Pats teams were wildcards, curious about whom they played. In the beginning, their Supe win was quite unexpected. There have been other wildcards that made the Supe. I'd be curious about their runs. Beating an 18-0 team can't be matched so...probably gotta give the edge to the Gmen then. Aside from old Strahan, I don't think the Giants have a "name" type superstar everyone knows of. I like that along with the college basketball underdog line of thinking.
"In any sport" is a toughie. College hoops alone has some awesome stories. Nova, George Mason, Princeton.
Bears are a good one but similarly, the 49ers or Giants or Redskins of that same era probably compare well. Some great teams back then in the NFC beating up on each other. IIRC Giants beat them the next year, then 49ers did, then Redskins. Some great battles.
ETA Akeem/Hakeem's rookie year the Rockets were a low seed, who can forget that tip sorta shot by Sampson? NBA is tough to think of....tryin'
"In any sport" is a toughie. College hoops alone has some awesome stories. Nova, George Mason, Princeton.
Bears are a good one but similarly, the 49ers or Giants or Redskins of that same era probably compare well. Some great teams back then in the NFC beating up on each other. IIRC Giants beat them the next year, then 49ers did, then Redskins. Some great battles.
ETA Akeem/Hakeem's rookie year the Rockets were a low seed, who can forget that tip sorta shot by Sampson? NBA is tough to think of....tryin'
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
The sentence I bolded is not true. The '97 Broncos won the Super Bowl as a wild card entry, as did the '00 Ravens.
BelichicksRevenge
Footballguy
It would be a pretty good run but IMO there were better teams in the AFC than Dallas and GB. The Colts , San diego and I would even say Jacksonville were better IMO.
Off the top of my head I would say it rates as one of the greatest runs in NFL history. Would have to go over each year to make a final judgement. I would'nt even try to compare to other sports. Its just about impossible to do.
Off the top of my head I would say it rates as one of the greatest runs in NFL history. Would have to go over each year to make a final judgement. I would'nt even try to compare to other sports. Its just about impossible to do.
Bill Lust
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He said, "I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0." That would be the three losses. The fact that they won four in a row after being down 0-3 against a team that historically owned them, and then went on to sweep a 100-win team in the WS (all in the span of ten days) is exactly why this is arguably the greatest postseason run in any sport.Go outside and take a breath, dude. There's a whole world out there.Except the post season included the three loses. Your ignoring that fact is yet another reason why New England area fans are the worst sport fans in the history of the universe.No, Red Soxs winning 8 in arow.I think they were down to the Yanks 3 games to 0.Then won 4 in arow, not sure if any other team has done that?Then 4 in arow and a sweep of St.louis.That Yank fans had to hurt.
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In football, this would be a great underdog run, but NE in 04 is a better run, simply because of the quality of the competition. Tampa just wasn't very good, and somebody had to win that division. Dallas' D was a weakness all year, adn Romo is still unproven in the playoffs. The D let them down, adn Romo did not shine. The Pack, I and many, thought were smoke and mirrors, and it was a matter of time before Favre started to play like the Favre of late. Yes, he makes plays, but in between making plays, he doees moronic things leading to TO's. He did, and the Pack was done. The Giants D had something to do / this. It's a great run, but epic? Beating the Pats would be epic, but the rest of the run is standard playoff fare.
Pitt 2 years ago was a far better run. Denver in 97 was against better competition. The Ravens on 00 was another one, though I'd put that on par with this one. Best ever? I can't give it to them. Great run? Sure. any time a team plays 3 playoff games before the SB, they've made a great run.
Moving outside of football, I'd put the Sox run where they won 8 in a row up there. Nobody had ever come back from being down 3-0. They did, and continued to roll. Sur, they lost 3 in a row first, but to bounce back from there was huge. Had the Buckner incident not happened, the Sox run in 86 would be up there. They were down to one strike against the Angels until Dave Henderson hit a HOmer. Might have been a grand slam. My memory fails me.
The 'Nove and NC State runs were huge as well. Nove taking out Phi Slamma Jamma is still one of the great upsets in sport.
Pitt 2 years ago was a far better run. Denver in 97 was against better competition. The Ravens on 00 was another one, though I'd put that on par with this one. Best ever? I can't give it to them. Great run? Sure. any time a team plays 3 playoff games before the SB, they've made a great run.
Moving outside of football, I'd put the Sox run where they won 8 in a row up there. Nobody had ever come back from being down 3-0. They did, and continued to roll. Sur, they lost 3 in a row first, but to bounce back from there was huge. Had the Buckner incident not happened, the Sox run in 86 would be up there. They were down to one strike against the Angels until Dave Henderson hit a HOmer. Might have been a grand slam. My memory fails me.
The 'Nove and NC State runs were huge as well. Nove taking out Phi Slamma Jamma is still one of the great upsets in sport.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
I can still remember every detail of the scene when we watched that shocker from a Galveston Hotel Room in high school.Huge, huge, huge.There are just so many examples. How can one be the best ever?
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