if the Pats DID videotape SB opponents to gain an advantage ... (1 Viewer)

[burd]

as scathing a story it is that the underdog Pats may have videotaped the Rams' walkthrough leading up to the Pats first Superbowl victory, the way they weren't able to win against the underdog Giants says a lot of how they benefitted from their previous cheating and came up short when they weren't able to cheat.

During the Pats-Rams Superbowl, the Pats defense was all over the Rams until the Rams went into hurryup and Belichick couldn't substitue.

The whole Spygate thing has been minimized because "all teams do it", but the difference is that Belichick being a game-planning genius was able to use this ill-gotten knowledge to further his team. Videotaping walkthroughs (where teams run through their red-zone plays) gives the Pats a HUGE advantage.

If the Pats did cheat their way to previous Superbowl victories, then their "dynasty" status is at best very questionable.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Did anyone else watch the pre-game interview with several players, including John Lynch who mentioned that Belichick, in the Pro Bowl a few years back, reviewed video footage of the NFC's practice? It sure sounds like this became a habit for him. If that's true then how can anyone flat out deny that he didn't do more than what he claimed he did? The league asked him and the Patriots to come clean on any and all infractions and BB and the staff said there was nothing else.

Definite story brewing here. We'll see if this gets swept under the rug so as not to embarrass the NFL's image

 

[AB in DC]

If it's true, then yes, the dynasty is questionable. No doubt.

 

[KnowledgeReignsSupreme]

In the words of Aaron Burr "contemptible, if true".

 

[Sabertooth]

I think it's possible that the NFL go back and strip them of the wins. Seriously. These bits of cheating can presumably considered only the tip of the iceberg.

 

[Pots]

It's very questionable. It's like the Barry Bonds issue. Do people really doubt he did it? Not really. We know he did it. Same with Bellicheat.

 

[KellysHeroes]

As one poster said in another thread... where theres smoke, theres fire... I sure something was going on.

It almost seems that every one of these dynasties have something.

Pitt in the 70s are accused of being dirty players

Dall had a drug problem in the locker room

NE have this videotaping thing

theres justr seems to always be something.

 

[faulkfan]

I think it's possible that the NFL go back and strip them of the wins. Seriously. These bits of cheating can presumably considered only the tip of the iceberg.

Not a chance in God's green Earth. I hate the Pats, but the NFL can't prove that the video was the reason for the victories or that they even actually used them in their preparation. If it is true that they didn't pony up all the information about their cheating ways then the NFL suspends BB for half a season or something like that, fines them some more and takes away some more 1st rounders.

Honestly, if players can get suspended for using steroids that supposedly give them an unfair advantage then why did BB get off when he was cheating as well. The message that the NFL sent in the way they handled the whole situation makes the "tough" Goodell look like an idiot IMHO.

 

[AB in DC]

If the Pats had won the Super Bowl after the 2006 season, then I could see that one at risk based on the tapes. But unless there's some new evidence that hasn't already been uncovered in the past five months, no way any other games are going to be forfeited.

 

[Sabertooth]

As one poster said in another thread... where theres smoke, theres fire... I sure something was going on.It almost seems that every one of these dynasties have something.Pitt in the 70s are accused of being dirty playersDall had a drug problem in the locker roomNE have this videotaping thing theres justr seems to always be something.

I don't recall anything like this with the 49ers though. Good points on the others.

 

[Eric]

I think it's pretty well known that most teams videotaped opponents, and still do. The Pats just did it outside of the designated area and they were caught. I don't see how that gave them a bigger advantage than anyone else. I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.

 

[Fodasme69]

As one poster said in another thread... where theres smoke, theres fire... I sure something was going on.It almost seems that every one of these dynasties have something.Pitt in the 70s are accused of being dirty playersDall had a drug problem in the locker roomNE have this videotaping thing theres justr seems to always be something.

I don't recall anything like this with the 49ers though. Good points on the others.

Salary Cap games and Gambling with the owner? (this coming from a niners fan)

 

[KellysHeroes]

As one poster said in another thread... where theres smoke, theres fire... I sure something was going on.It almost seems that every one of these dynasties have something.Pitt in the 70s are accused of being dirty playersDall had a drug problem in the locker roomNE have this videotaping thing theres justr seems to always be something.

I don't recall anything like this with the 49ers though. Good points on the others.

Salary Cap games and Gambling with the owner? (this coming from a niners fan)

I remember something about the 9ers and the Cap during the 80s... I was alittle too young to understand what it was.

 

[burd]

I think it's pretty well known that most teams videotaped opponents, and still do. The Pats just did it outside of the designated area and they were caught. I don't see how that gave them a bigger advantage than anyone else. I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.

i never heard of a superbowl team videotape their superbowl opponent's walkthrough practice where they run through their red zone plays. if this is true, it's a huge black eye for the league because those wins are all now suspect. And who knows, maybe the league knew the extent of the cheating and destroyed the evidence.

 

[jonessed]

If there is a tape and evidence that BB cheated during even one SB game run-up then that whole dynasty is going to come into question. It would be an enormous black eye for the league. It's easy to see why Goodell was so eager to try and brush it under the rug as quickly as possible. The Rams would definitely have a case for stripping that title from the Pats.

Unfortunately, I don't think it will happen though. At most BB will get a suspension.

 

[rick6668]

I think it's pretty well known that most teams videotaped opponents, and still do. The Pats just did it outside of the designated area and they were caught. I don't see how that gave them a bigger advantage than anyone else. I could be wrong, but that's how I understand it.

Then why were they doing it when they had been previously warned not to do it? For fun?