Not so sure of this.I think it makes time on earth more valuable and more important once you realize this is all there is.
Believing in god =/= living to get in good with the big manAnd another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
Why do you need a reward from God?And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
That is why I worded things how I did.Since I already have no belief in an afterlife, my answer can only be "no".
Do you really think that any religion would be at all popular if it didn't preach a peachy afterlife?And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.Why do you need a reward from God?And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
Only you can explain why you'd live your life differently/ Do you harbor guilt about the way you live your life now?BTW, I am the only yes vote and I don't know why.
Sort of my point, on all of that. Whether it is right or wrong, I only have my beliefs and they are unsure at best. In the end I think God is used as a form of govt to control people. My thoughts are that all religion is wrong and controlling if there is a God it is not how we vision him to be.Do you really think that any religion would be at all popular if it didn't preach a peachy afterlife?And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.Why do you need a reward from God?And another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
How many people want to live their lives in a way to please a god they worship, if there is no afterlife? You're naive if you think the idea of "going to heaven" isn't the main reason people believe in god. Whether they admit it or not, what's the point of being judged by a supreme being if the judgement doesn't mean anything? For funsies?
What? If you don't think on either a subconscious or conscious level that the promise of going to "heaven" after you live your short life isn't the main lure of any major religion, you're incredibly naive. The existence of an afterlife is the main comforting factor of most religions, for anyone honest enough to admit it.Believing in god =/= living to get in good with the big man. . . at least I hope notAnd another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
I agree and I don't want people to change to whatever, I just want them to look into things when they are older and make their own decision. Most people get into whatever they believe because it was what their parents believed.I'd think everyone would answer "no."
If you already don't believe in an afterlife, of course you wouldn't change the way you live your life. If you do believe in an afterlife you wouldn't want to admit you'd live life differently, even if you would.
No - I absolutely believe there are many who behave specifically so they can get in good with god/go to heaven. I just didn't think it was fair to paint ALL believers with that brush, which you did ("If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man . . ."). I am sure there are also many who happen to believe in god but also live life their way simply because of a sense of right, or fairness, or whatever.What? If you don't think on either a subconscious or conscious level that the promise of going to "heaven" after you live your short life isn't the main lure of any major religion, you're incredibly naive. The existence of an afterlife is the main comforting factor of most religions, for anyone honest enough to admit it.Believing in god =/= living to get in good with the big man. . . at least I hope notAnd another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
again I get you are 100%, you may be correct, but what kind of discussion do you want with everyone going on the same sideWhat do you mean "if"?
Gotcha, my apologies, thought we were disagreeing there. You're right that I probably painted with too broad a brush there, but I think if there was generally accepted knowledge that there was no afterlife, among all people, religion would disappear almost entirely. There are people who are good people because that is in their nature...but they are probably still religious, on some level, because it answers their questions and provides the comfort of a cushy afterlife. Without that, they would just be good people who don't worship or believe.No - I absolutely believe there are many who behave specifically so they can get in good with god/go to heaven. I just didn't think it was fair to paint ALL believers with that brush, which you did ("If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man . . ."). I am sure there are also many who happen to believe in god but also live life their way simply because of a sense of right, or fairness, or whatever.As an aside, you and I probably agree that most organized religion uses the threat/promise of an afterlife as a population management toolWhat? If you don't think on either a subconscious or conscious level that the promise of going to "heaven" after you live your short life isn't the main lure of any major religion, you're incredibly naive. The existence of an afterlife is the main comforting factor of most religions, for anyone honest enough to admit it.Believing in god =/= living to get in good with the big man. . . at least I hope notAnd another thing: if there's no afterlife, why would anyone care if there was still a god? Isn't that kind of the whole idea? If you believe in god, you want to get in good with the big man because this life is only temporary and eternity is what's important?
I don't think your hypothetical makes sense for anyone who currently believes in god.
I can vouch for this. I'm a much better person now that I'm a non-believer.Not so sure of this.I think it makes time on earth more valuable and more important once you realize this is all there is.
This easily goes both ways.I can vouch for this. I'm a much better person now that I'm a non-believer.Not so sure of this.I think it makes time on earth more valuable and more important once you realize this is all there is.
And I would need the rules written in stone...preferably on stones important enough not to get lost.If there was an afterlife, I would live my life differently. (Assuming we knew what it was like and the rules to get in/stay out.)
Is this something you...believe?Milkman said:Who cares. Even though there is no after life you will get to live again when the exact same circumstances occur that created you this time. Since time never ends it's going to happen again eventually.
Maybe if a certain demographic stopped believing in the afterlife, they would stop blowing themselves up and taking others with them.I do believe in God and the after life, but I am human and my curiosity has caused me to question my beliefs before. Maybe religion was made up to scare the masses into believing that their is more to live for than just this life. I could only imagine the chaos that the earth would have been in and would still be in if no one believed in the after life.
I do not believe in God and the after life, but I am human and can't say 100% for sure. Maybe religion was made up by scared masses because they needed to believe their was more to live for than just this life. I often imagine how much more wonderful the earth would have been and would still be if no one believed in the after life.I do believe in God and the after life, but I am human and my curiosity has caused me to question my beliefs before. Maybe religion was made up to scare the masses into believing that their is more to live for than just this life. I could only imagine the chaos that the earth would have been in and would still be in if no one believed in the after life.
Plenty of people believe in gods that can help them during this life. A god that can cure your disease if you pray to him or strike down your enemies in battle if you sacrifice a fatted calf would still be useful to have on your side even if there's no afterlife.ConnSKINS26 said:How many people want to live their lives in a way to please a god they worship, if there is no afterlife? You're naive if you think the idea of "going to heaven" isn't the main reason people believe in god. Whether they admit it or not, what's the point of being judged by a supreme being if the judgement doesn't mean anything? For funsies?