If you had a crystal ball (1 Viewer)

[Deranged Hermit]

If someone gave you a crystal ball and said you could look at the end of year stats if one player, who would that be?
Mine would be Tyreek Hill. He's going in the 3rd round right now (one draft i saw him go in the top of the 4th), but has top 3 upside. Two years ago he was borderline mvp, last year he was mostly unstartable. I'm not sure there's another player who has such a wild set of outcomes.

 

[ProstheticRGK]

If someone gave you a crystal ball and said you could look at the end of year stats if one player, who would that be?
Mine would be Tyreek Hill. He's going in the 3rd round right now (one draft i saw him go in the top of the 4th), but has top 3 upside. Two years ago he was borderline mvp, last year he was mostly unstartable. I'm not sure there's another player who has such a wild set of outcomes.

CMC. Boom or bust?

 

[Gally]

CMC would be another good choice. Late round 1 or early round 2 for a guy that could be the #1 overall player if he plays 17 games.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

If someone gave you a crystal ball and said you could look at the end of year stats if one player, who would that be?
Mine would be Tyreek Hill. He's going in the 3rd round right now (one draft i saw him go in the top of the 4th), but has top 3 upside. Two years ago he was borderline mvp, last year he was mostly unstartable. I'm not sure there's another player who has such a wild set of outcomes.

CMC. Boom or bust?

He was number two on my list.

 

[Gally]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

 

[eighsse2]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good thought, any QB might be a good choice since there could be major correlation if the crystal ball returns extremely high or low numbers. Then you could know multiple players to target or avoid.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good thought, any QB might be a good choice since there could be major correlation if the crystal ball returns extremely high or low numbers. Then you could know multiple players to target or avoid.

Yes, I was thinking about JJM in Minnesota. A lot of their offense centers around him. Plus he is a cheap pick himself.

 

[Ilov80s]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good choice too because his weapons are affordable. If you see he throw for 4400/35 you might not know how that breaks down for Moore, Odunze, Loveland, Burden, Kmet but you know that you should probably be drafting as much of them all as possible at their price.

 

[Gally]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good thought, any QB might be a good choice since there could be major correlation if the crystal ball returns extremely high or low numbers. Then you could know multiple players to target or avoid.

Yes, I was thinking about JJM in Minnesota. A lot of their offense centers around him. Plus he is a cheap pick himself.

That's a great one. As a Vikes fan I just already assumed he would be 4500 yds and 40 TD's so I don't need a crystal ball for that. (but then a first round exit in the playoffs because......Vikings)

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good thought, any QB might be a good choice since there could be major correlation if the crystal ball returns extremely high or low numbers. Then you could know multiple players to target or avoid.

Yes, I was thinking about JJM in Minnesota. A lot of their offense centers around him. Plus he is a cheap pick himself.

That's a great one. As a Vikes fan I just already assumed he would be 4500 yds and 40 TD's so I don't need a crystal ball for that. (but then a first round exit in the playoffs because......Vikings)

I just need him from week 1-17, lol

 

[Ilov80s]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Good thought, any QB might be a good choice since there could be major correlation if the crystal ball returns extremely high or low numbers. Then you could know multiple players to target or avoid.

Yes, I was thinking about JJM in Minnesota. A lot of their offense centers around him. Plus he is a cheap pick himself.

He is another good one. I think he, Justin Fields and Caleb are the best choices because of the players they could be supporting or destroying and how the wide range of their outcomes. I think last year Darnold and Anthony Richardson would have been popular choices. It would have helped signal to people that Jefferson warranted a top 3 pick, Addison was a value and most surprisingly that you could wait until the last pick of your draft to just take Darnold as your only QB. Richardson of course would have signaled that the situation was a 100% avoid.

If we had to pick someone who isn't a QB, I probably choose a rookie RB not named Jeanty. That represents the most potential bang for your buck if you can figure out a mid round pick ends up posting RB1 numbers.

 

[Soulfly3]

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

 

[Ilov80s]

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

In half PPR he finished as WR31 in PPG last year. He is going as WR32. It was the most receptions and yards he has ever had a single season by a significant amount.

 

[Soulfly3]

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

In half PPR he finished as WR31 in PPG last year. He is going as WR32. It was the most receptions and yards he has ever had a single season by a significant amount.

Half PPR? PPG? What gymnastics are you doing here?

He finished as WR12 or 13 in a good old PPR league.

 

[wgoldsph]

Easy, I find the guy on Vegas who has the most extreme splits across different books and gamble.

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

So basically you need to know what a guy who's never had a no1 overall season does... Why? What does knowing he ends up as wr 22 as opposed to 32 or 42 do for you?

 

[Soulfly3]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

 

[BlackCrowes]

gotta be CMC

 

[wgoldsph]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

 

[Ilov80s]

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

In half PPR he finished as WR31 in PPG last year. He is going as WR32. It was the most receptions and yards he has ever had a single season by a significant amount.

Half PPR? PPG? What gymnastics are you doing here?

He finished as WR12 or 13 in a good old PPR league.

Half PPR is a pretty standard way to play. He was 30th in PPR ppg so that doesn't really change much. He didn't miss any games so he accumulated more points than AJ Brown and Tee Higgins but on a week to week basis, those guys did more to help you win. And when they didn't play, you got to replace them.

 

[Soulfly3]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

WR 12 is a no1 wr though (it's a 12 man league)

And considering he gets drafted much, much later than that he could be seen a major help to a championship run.

hence why Id want to see if he finishes up there again, or if he plummets back to his draft point.

 

[Ilov80s]

Jeudy had the 16th most PPR points for a wide receiver last year finishing between Sutton and Higgins. He was 30th in PPR PPG, between Thielen and Josh Downs. Make of those facts what you will for Jeudy's fantasy value.

 

[H8fulHuck]

So many good options. Really like CMC because you can get a ton of him if his numbers are league winner level again. Flip side, can snap up the backup RBs on the cheap if you can tell CMC was injured.

Ultimately, I'd go with Hurts. Passing TD/yards shoot up, can easily scoop AJ Brown and Smith. Also see the rushing TD numbers he's poaching from Barkley. Flip side, another low passing volume year from Hurts means Barkley is a playoff maker again. Lock in all the Barkley shares you can get.

 

[pinkstapler]

Easy, I find the guy on Vegas who has the most extreme splits across different books and gamble.

Yup, my mind immediately left the fantasy realm and went to the gambling one lol. I'd liquidate as much capital as possible and go full Biff from BTTF2 when he finds the sports almanac.

 

[-OZ-]

Caleb Williams would be another because he holds the values of Moore, Odunze, Burton, Loveland in his hands.

Caleb it’s first I thought of. But cam Ward, Bryce Young, and travis Hunter are next up.

 

[Dave Stauff]

Off the rails a bit here, but Javonte Williams. Everyone seems to discount his situation except Dallas. What should be a high powered offense, good O line, and little competition for snaps (unless you believe Blue has 1 and 2 down abilities). This guy could help end the playoff victory drought in Big D - or not. That's what the crystal ball is for. And in reality you did ask who "I" would look at and he's got my curiosity twerking.

 

[wgoldsph]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

WR 12 is a no1 wr though (it's a 12 man league)

And considering he gets drafted much, much later than that he could be seen major help to a championship run.

hence why Id want to see if he finishes up there again, or if he plummets back to his draft point.

12-13, now just 12. And ppg is irrelevant. Also nobody plays half ppr.

For a move from the middle rounds to the third for a pick that's a lot of stipulations for a guy who won't win you a league with his last wr1 place. At least if you picked a longshot rb they could make your team better week in week out as opposed to a guy starting for the fricken Browns with the corpse of Flacco as his qb.

 

[BlackCrowes]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

WR 12 is a no1 wr though (it's a 12 man league)

And considering he gets drafted much, much later than that he could be seen major help to a championship run.

hence why Id want to see if he finishes up there again, or if he plummets back to his draft point.

12-13, now just 12. And ppg is irrelevant. Also nobody plays half ppr.

disagree strongly on the bolded.

 

[greenmountaingoat]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

WR 12 is a no1 wr though (it's a 12 man league)

And considering he gets drafted much, much later than that he could be seen major help to a championship run.

hence why Id want to see if he finishes up there again, or if he plummets back to his draft point.

12-13, now just 12. And ppg is irrelevant. Also nobody plays half ppr.

For a move from the middle rounds to the third for a pick that's a lot of stipulations for a guy who won't win you a league with his last wr1 place. At least if you picked a longshot rb they could make your team better week in week out as opposed to a guy starting for the fricken Browns with the corpse of Flacco as his qb.

You hurt my feelings wg. I'm somebody, gosh darn it.

One of my leagues is converting to half next year because it's zero ppr right now.
Also, fantasydata is a site that seems to have the free and correct option for formatting that works for me.

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2024- Jeudy
17 games- 145 targets, 90 catches 4 TDS
PPR points- 240.9 (14.2 per game, ranked 24th but those ranks include Rice, Godwin and Diggs who all had many fewer games)
Total fantasy points for WRs was 12th. Lots of guys like AJB, Puka and Nico Collins etc were above in points per game but behind in total scored points.
half PPR points drops his rank in points per game #28 due to the comparatively low TD output OR #15 in total half ppr points scored.

 

[wgoldsph]

WR31 and now WR22?

What stats do you guys use, exactly?

Jeudy finished as WR12 or WR13 in a regular old fashioned PPR league last season.

I don't know where he ended, just that he wasn't a no1 wr and that's the problem with your argument

WR 12 is a no1 wr though (it's a 12 man league)

And considering he gets drafted much, much later than that he could be seen major help to a championship run.

hence why Id want to see if he finishes up there again, or if he plummets back to his draft point.

12-13, now just 12. And ppg is irrelevant. Also nobody plays half ppr.

disagree strongly on the bolded.

I was saying those things do matter and @Soulfly3 was picking and choosing what numbers he cares about.

Also reply to @greenmountaingoat

 

[TheWinz]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

 

[wgoldsph]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

 

[TheWinz]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

 

[Ilov80s]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

Changing from ppr to half ppr actually helps Jeudy move up to WR15.

 

[Soulfly3]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

 

[TheWinz]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

I was on your side the whole time. Just remember from now on, every time you post a ranking, you're required by law to state the entire scoring system you are talking about. Otherwise the vultures start circling.

 

[TampaMike19]

curious if cam ward makes the titans an average fantasy offense which would be great ROI on Ridley, pollard, spears, and okonkwo

 

[Ilov80s]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

You were not clear. You said:

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

I chose 0.5 PPR because it's a popular format and by the numbers I was looking at were slightly beneficial to Jeudy. But you are right there are leagues with slight differences in points lost for fumbles or whatever. My general point really had nothing to do with exact formats. He was helpful and a good value but on a week to week basis he was providing low end WR2-Wr3 numbers on average. If he repeats what did last year, he will be a good draft value but not a league winner and him doing well won't provide any useful info about any other fantasy players. You are fun on this board and I always love the enthusiasm. I think you are perhaps falling a little in love for another Cleveland receiver here.

 

[Zow]

Anthony Richardson.

You could potentially get a top 5 QB with the last pick in your draft. Massive steal if you knew you could get top 5 production at a position for effectively no draft capital.

 

[Zow]

Easy, I find the guy on Vegas who has the most extreme splits across different books and gamble.

Yeah this is the most practical answer but I interpreted the question as being for fantasy.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Easy, I find the guy on Vegas who has the most extreme splits across different books and gamble.

Yeah this is the most practical answer but I interpreted the question as being for fantasy.

Yup

 

[Buckna]

Jeudy was WR26 in PPG in my PPR leagues, he stayed healthy all year which does have some value. Not sure there's much room for improvement there as inexplicably their QB situation actually got worse for fantasy (although the hodge podge they have may actually be better than Watson was.) 30% of his points came from 2 games where Winston threw for nearly 400 and 500 yards passing. Obviously cherry picking but those are pretty sizeable outlier type games.

Flacco could still sling it even last year with Indy so that should be good for Jeudy to start off the season but how many games does he realistically start before they give the rookies a shot? All due respect to the long-suffering diehard Browns fans on here but looking at their schedule they could conceivably go 0-6 or 1-5 to start the season (5 of the first 6 games are against playoff teams last year and the Bengals.)

 

[Chaka]

Ashton Jeanty. I want to know how many of his 2,500 total yards will come on receptions.

 

[Stinkin Ref]

for me it has to be somebody that is first round/top 15ish....cause if you miss there it can derail your whole season...sooooo

CMC....possible FF#1 that you can get at a discount right now
Jeanty.....rookie going in every first round but we haven't seen it yet
Nabers....I have been fading because they have the hardest schedule in the league and the QB situation....I get possible game script argument but at some point if they know you are going to throw....can be taken away and not necessarily force fed....with the QB's I see INT's if they try to force it
Puka.....Stafford being hurt and possibly not playing is a game changer IMO when it comes to Puka....Adams addition already gave me pause on Puka

 

[wgoldsph]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

You were not clear. You said:

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

I chose 0.5 PPR because it's a popular format and by the numbers I was looking at were slightly beneficial to Jeudy. But you are right there are leagues with slight differences in points lost for fumbles or whatever. My general point really had nothing to do with exact formats. He was helpful and a good value but on a week to week basis he was providing low end WR2-Wr3 numbers on average. If he repeats what did last year, he will be a good draft value but not a league winner and him doing well won't provide any useful info about any other fantasy players. You are fun on this board and I always love the enthusiasm. I think you are perhaps falling a little in love for another Cleveland receiver here.

I just want to piggy back, but my argument also had nothing to do with the exact rank and was based on the fact that no matter what system, Jeudy topped out as on the wr1/2 cusp at the high end. That's not worth a crystal ball, ESPECIALLY, because you can get him a round early and not have it throw off your entire draft in the same way drafting... Idk Mike Evans in round 3 instead of potentially missing out in round 5.

Also I want to go on record as liking @Soulfly3

 

[TheWinz]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

You were not clear. You said:

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

I chose 0.5 PPR because it's a popular format and by the numbers I was looking at were slightly beneficial to Jeudy. But you are right there are leagues with slight differences in points lost for fumbles or whatever. My general point really had nothing to do with exact formats. He was helpful and a good value but on a week to week basis he was providing low end WR2-Wr3 numbers on average. If he repeats what did last year, he will be a good draft value but not a league winner and him doing well won't provide any useful info about any other fantasy players. You are fun on this board and I always love the enthusiasm. I think you are perhaps falling a little in love for another Cleveland receiver here.

I just want to piggy back, but my argument also had nothing to do with the exact rank and was based on the fact that no matter what system, Jeudy topped out as on the wr1/2 cusp at the high end. That's not worth a crystal ball, ESPECIALLY, because you can get him a round early and not have it throw off your entire draft in the same way drafting... Idk Mike Evans in round 3 instead of potentially missing out in round 5.

Also I want to go on record as liking @Soulfly3

Yes, I do have to agree that Jeudy doesn't deserve the crystal ball.

My crystal ball points at Dak Prescott. He could stay healthy, play all 17 games, and his range of outcomes goes from about QB1 to QB15

 

[Deranged Hermit]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

You were not clear. You said:

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

I chose 0.5 PPR because it's a popular format and by the numbers I was looking at were slightly beneficial to Jeudy. But you are right there are leagues with slight differences in points lost for fumbles or whatever. My general point really had nothing to do with exact formats. He was helpful and a good value but on a week to week basis he was providing low end WR2-Wr3 numbers on average. If he repeats what did last year, he will be a good draft value but not a league winner and him doing well won't provide any useful info about any other fantasy players. You are fun on this board and I always love the enthusiasm. I think you are perhaps falling a little in love for another Cleveland receiver here.

I just want to piggy back, but my argument also had nothing to do with the exact rank and was based on the fact that no matter what system, Jeudy topped out as on the wr1/2 cusp at the high end. That's not worth a crystal ball, ESPECIALLY, because you can get him a round early and not have it throw off your entire draft in the same way drafting... Idk Mike Evans in round 3 instead of potentially missing out in round 5.

Also I want to go on record as liking @Soulfly3

Yes, I do have to agree that Jeudy doesn't deserve the crystal ball.

My crystal ball points at Dak Prescott. He could stay healthy, play all 17 games, and his range of outcomes goes from about QB1 to QB15

Dak is a great one. Lots of fantasy points to be had in that offense if he's healthy.

 

[Ilov80s]

About Jerry Jeudy
In PPR he finished WR16 with 90/1229/4

If @Soulfly3 plays in PPR leagues, he considers Jeudy as finishing as WR16, and it was obvious that's what he was talking about. It's very annoying when you try to make a point, but then it gets derailed when people start using different scoring systems. Did you know McLaurin finished as the WR2 in leagues where receiving TD's are the only thing that's counted? Or that Tyrell Shavers was the WR1 in leagues where yards per catch is king? Yeah, go look that guy up - he caught 1 pass last year, for a 69 yard TD. I played in a league one year where you got extra points for the length of your last name.

What I'm hearing isn't Jeudy isn't even a wr1 in "regular old ppr" leagues.

And that's fine. All I'm saying is when a person posts a ranking based on a scoring system, they probably only care about that scoring system, because that's what their league/leagues use. Yes, @Soulfly3 was off by a few spots, but he was obviously talking about full PPR.

I play in 2 PPR leagues, and he was wr12 in one and wr13 in the other.

I think the only difference in the 2 is fumble points

Not sure what the discrepancy in pts would be from to make him wr16, but point stands regardless.

Otherwise, ya.. I was very clear about 1ppr from the start, dunno why other scoring systems for introduced

You were not clear. You said:

Jerry Jeudy is such an easy answer, it's not even funny.

Where's he going right now? What's his pedigree? Where'd he finished just LAST season?

I chose 0.5 PPR because it's a popular format and by the numbers I was looking at were slightly beneficial to Jeudy. But you are right there are leagues with slight differences in points lost for fumbles or whatever. My general point really had nothing to do with exact formats. He was helpful and a good value but on a week to week basis he was providing low end WR2-Wr3 numbers on average. If he repeats what did last year, he will be a good draft value but not a league winner and him doing well won't provide any useful info about any other fantasy players. You are fun on this board and I always love the enthusiasm. I think you are perhaps falling a little in love for another Cleveland receiver here.

I just want to piggy back, but my argument also had nothing to do with the exact rank and was based on the fact that no matter what system, Jeudy topped out as on the wr1/2 cusp at the high end. That's not worth a crystal ball, ESPECIALLY, because you can get him a round early and not have it throw off your entire draft in the same way drafting... Idk Mike Evans in round 3 instead of potentially missing out in round 5.

Also I want to go on record as liking @Soulfly3

Yes, I do have to agree that Jeudy doesn't deserve the crystal ball.

My crystal ball points at Dak Prescott. He could stay healthy, play all 17 games, and his range of outcomes goes from about QB1 to QB15

Dak is a great one. Lots of fantasy points to be had in that offense if he's healthy.

Yeah I think that's one of the 3 or 4 best choices I've heard so far.

 

[Lansdowne]

Jameson Williams. I’d like to know if he’s going to be the cornerstone dynasty WR I was hoping for when I drafted him or if he’s just a rich man’s Rashid Shaheed.

Honorable mention to Travis Hunter, though I don’t think his rookie season will tell the whole story. If I could see what his career would look like, then he’s my pick for this exercise.

 

[fatness]

Jayden Daniels
I'd be able to tell immediately if Terry McLaurin played for Washington this year or not.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

If someone gave you a crystal ball and said you could look at the end of year stats if one player, who would that be?
Mine would be Tyreek Hill. He's going in the 3rd round right now (one draft i saw him go in the top of the 4th), but has top 3 upside. Two years ago he was borderline mvp, last year he was mostly unstartable. I'm not sure there's another player who has such a wild set of outcomes.

CMC

No player has a wider spread of potential outcomes for the investment cost.

He’s either a league-winner or a doorstop for a 1st round pick.

I’d rather know the outcome of CMC than knowing the powerball 6.