If youre drafting at the turn of a snake draft would it make sense to. (1 Viewer)

[Tchula]

Draft BOTH Gronk and Graham at the 1-2 turn? Here is my reasoning. Based on current FBG projections there's a decent drop off after te3, so you outscore every other team at the TE position by several points per game. Assuming you can start a TE as a flex, both Gronk and Graham still rate the same points per game as a WR1. Think of it as going WR & TE at the turn, but the WR is de facto your flex.

 

[DerekR]

If I had the chance I would do it unless someone like Mathews is still there

 

[Stinkin Ref]

i kinda like this...

but it might change a little depending on how many you have to start at other positions...

 

[BigSteelThrill]

If you can start em both, I think comparing them to WRs that are available is very appropriate.

And they hold up marvelously.

Dodds Projections...

1	Rob Gronkowski	NE / 9	15	78	1053	13.5	12	177.92	Jimmy Graham	NO / 6	15	89	1095	12.3	11	175.53	Aaron Hernandez	NE / 9	15	73	818	11.2	7	141.14	Jerm Finley     GB / 10	16	60	828	13.8	8	130.85	Antonio Gates	SD / 7	14	65	878	13.5	7	129.86	Jason Witten	DAL / 5	15	79	893	11.3	6	125.37	Vernon Davis	SF / 9	16	70	827	11.8	6	119.9

1	Calvin Johnson	DET / 5	16	2	12	6.0	0	90	1485	16.5	13	227.72	Greg Jennings	GB / 10	13	0	0		0	78	1186	15.2	11	184.63	Andre Johnson	HOU / 8	15	1	8	8.0	0	90	1342	14.9	8	183.04	Victor Cruz	NYG / 11 16	2	12	6.0	0	78	1248	16.0	9	180.05	Mike Wallace	PIT / 4	15	5	40	8.0	0	76	1254	16.5	8	177.46	L Fitzgerald	ARI / 10 16	0	0		0	85	1207	14.2	9	174.77	Hakeem Nicks	NYG / 11 15	1	5	5.0	0	81	1256	15.5	8	174.18	Julio Jones	ATL / 7	16	7	56	8.0	0	72	1123	15.6	9	171.99	Dez Bryant	DAL / 5	15	2	10	5.0	0	75	1103	14.7	10	171.310	Jordy Nelson	GB / 10	16	0	0		0	70	1106	15.8	10	170.611	Demaryius Thomas DEN / 7 16	2	9	4.5	0	74	1154	15.6	9	170.312	Miles Austin	DAL / 5	15	2	8	4.0	0	76	1125	14.8	9	167.313	Percy Harvin	MIN / 11 15	36	234	6.5	2	78	936	12.0	6	165.014	Roddy White	ATL / 7	15	1	5	5.0	0	88	1135	12.9	8	162.015	A.J. Green	CIN / 8	16	5	35	7.0	0	73	1095	15.0	8	161.016	Kenny Britt	TEN / 11 14	0	0		0	71	1172	16.5	7	159.217	Steve Smith	CAR / 6	15	5	30	6.0	0	75	1140	15.2	7	159.018	Marques Colston	NO / 6	15	0	0		0	79	1043	13.2	9	158.319	Vincent Jackson	TB / 5	15	3	21	7.0	0	65	1073	16.5	8	157.420	Torrey Smith	BAL / 8	16	4	24	6.0	0	62	992	16.0	8	149.621	Denarius Moore	OAK / 5	15	8	64	8.0	1	63	1008	16.0	6	149.222	DeSean Jackson	PHI / 7	15	7	49	7.0	1	63	1021	16.2	6	149.023	Steve Johnson	BUF / 8	16	0	0		0	79	1027	13.0	7	144.724	Wes Welker	NE / 9	15	4	28	7.0	0	94	1043	11.1	6	143.1

 

[mr roboto]

What about the immense weakness you would have at WR and RB?

 

[Synesthesia]

Obviously depends on the starting requirements. If you can only start 1 TE, it's an obviously terrible idea. If you have multiple WR/TE flex spots, it's a viable strategy (especially if you have at least one mandatory TE spot). If you have something like 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE flex, then I think it's another non-starter of a strategy. Filling in flex spots when there are still unfilled starting positions dramatically reduces your roster flexibility, and should only be done if the flex player presents substantially more value than the mandatory player. And Gronk/Graham just don't present a compelling enough case over a guy like Fitzgerald to warrant the sacrifice of your flex spot in the second round.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

Assuming you can start a TE as a flex,

Wanted to add a bit more.Its perfect for the WR/TE slot. Especially if its PPR.You don't "gain" anything from putting a clamp on your opponents not getting one though. You did gain 40+ points with your first one, and then broke even with your second (vs a Jennings, Wallace, Fitz, Nicks).However, if the flex allows for RBs, or since you still need a QB... then you may be taking a hit. Case in point...

6	Darren McFadden	OAK / 5	13	240	1248	5.2	8	36	324	9.0	2	217.27	Trent RichardsonCLE / 10 16	275	1183	4.3	8	45	358	8.0	2	214.18	Marshawn Lynch	SEA / 11 15	255	1071	4.2	11	29	232	8.0	1	202.39	Chris Johnson	TEN / 11 15	260	1066	4.1	7	52	381	7.3	2	198.710	Jamaal Charles	KC / 7	15	215	1226	5.7	5	39	312	8.0	2	195.8

1	Aaron Rodgers	GB / 10	15	348	535	4590	8.6	40	11	60	282	4.7	3	453.72	Tom Brady	NE / 9	16	393	577	4639	8.0	38	12	35	53	1.5	1	409.23	Drew Brees	NO / 6	16	428	616	4737	7.7	38	16	20	30	1.5	1	403.94	Cam Newton	CAR / 6	16	299	480	3595	7.5	22	15	115	633	5.5	7	365.15	Matt Stafford	DET / 5	16	360	600	4398	7.3	34	19	23	74	3.2	0	359.36	Tony Romo	DAL / 5	16	349	530	4187	7.9	30	14	25	63	2.5	1	343.67	Michael Vick	PHI / 7	13	284	465	3706	8.0	21	16	75	525	7.0	5	340.88	Philip Rivers	SD / 7	16	365	582	4580	7.9	26	15	28	42	1.5	1	339.29	Eli Manning	NYG / 11 16	337	540	4163	7.7	27	18	32	64	2.0	1	319.610	Ben Roethbrgr	PIT / 4	15	320	510	4080	8.0	25	15	40	90	2.3	1	314.011	Matt Ryan	ATL / 7	16	329	551	3857	7.0	26	13	43	86	2.0	1	311.412	Robert Griffin	WAS / 10 16	315	525	3596	6.8	20	17	65	410	6.3	4	310.8

Are you passing on Cam and Brees, as well skipping on McFadden and Chris Johnson? What do expect to be there at the 3/4 turn and what will the drop off be? Gronk and Brady (and I loathe the Patriots) seems a pretty damn tasty option.

 

[Sake-Bombers]

This certainly could make sense... if everyone performs the same way they did last year. But that's obviously not guaranteed.

But if you think they'll duplicate or improve on last year and you think you can maximize later picks, it's an intriguing strategy. Seems like QB and WR are deep this year, so RB could be where you lose any edge, though, especially because you could get a better RB1 with one of those picks and still get a WR at flex who isn't as big of a dropoff from Graham as a later RB would be over that RB1.

 

[Raskell5]

It is most definitely a decent strategy but like has already been said, it depends on the league...I can tell you in the early FFPC leagues (1.5ppr for TE's), they weren't there to even attempt to get both. Both are going in the mid/late first round.

 

[twistd]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I disagree. You aren't force into any strategy. If value presents itself , like Rodgers available in round 3, you take him. I know of teams that have pursued a similar strategy in the FFPC and won their in leagues.

 

[twistd]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I disagree. You aren't force into any strategy. If value presents itself , like Rodgers available in round 3, you take him. I know of teams that have pursued a similar strategy in the FFPC and won their in leagues.

I think that the RB value really falls off the table after that group available at the 3/4 turn. Besides, Rodgers is not dropping to the end of the third round. His ADP is 6, he's not dropping to 36 to be available at the 3/4 turn. Even if it is a ten team league he isn't dropping to 30 either. The QBs that are available, according to the FBG ADP, in the third are Stafford, who they have going early third, and Vick. I suppose I would consider Stafford at that spot, but would almost feel I had to take RBs. I think you could get a solid QBBC pair later in the draft. I wouldn't be very excited if my number 2 RB was BJGE.

 

[Captain Hook]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I disagree. You aren't force into any strategy. If value presents itself , like Rodgers available in round 3, you take him. I know of teams that have pursued a similar strategy in the FFPC and won their in leagues.

I think that the RB value really falls off the table after that group available at the 3/4 turn. Besides, Rodgers is not dropping to the end of the third round. His ADP is 6, he's not dropping to 36 to be available at the 3/4 turn. Even if it is a ten team league he isn't dropping to 30 either. The QBs that are available, according to the FBG ADP, in the third are Stafford, who they have going early third, and Vick. I suppose I would consider Stafford at that spot, but would almost feel I had to take RBs. I think you could get a solid QBBC pair later in the draft. I wouldn't be very excited if my number 2 RB was BJGE.

You can't use the ridiculous ADPs that FBG posts (not their fault for posting but they aren't based on real $ leagues) when talking about high stakes FF leagues especially the FFPC. Maybe Rodger would be taken in the first round but just as likely not and no other quarterbacks would be off the board until mid-late second round

 

[twistd]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I disagree. You aren't force into any strategy. If value presents itself , like Rodgers available in round 3, you take him. I know of teams that have pursued a similar strategy in the FFPC and won their in leagues.

I think that the RB value really falls off the table after that group available at the 3/4 turn. Besides, Rodgers is not dropping to the end of the third round. His ADP is 6, he's not dropping to 36 to be available at the 3/4 turn. Even if it is a ten team league he isn't dropping to 30 either. The QBs that are available, according to the FBG ADP, in the third are Stafford, who they have going early third, and Vick. I suppose I would consider Stafford at that spot, but would almost feel I had to take RBs. I think you could get a solid QBBC pair later in the draft. I wouldn't be very excited if my number 2 RB was BJGE.

You can't use the ridiculous ADPs that FBG posts (not their fault for posting but they aren't based on real $ leagues) when talking about high stakes FF leagues especially the FFPC. Maybe Rodger would be taken in the first round but just as likely not and no other quarterbacks would be off the board until mid-late second round

We aren't talking about Rodgers dropping to the second, we are talking about Rodgers dropping to the end of the third. For him to be available at the 3/4 turn he has to drop to 36. Do you really think that is going to happen? Calvin Johnson might drop to the end of the third too, but that also is so unlikely that it doesn't bear consideration IMO. Someone like Brady, Cam Newton, or Stafford might drop, maybe even Brees, but Rodgers is never going to drop that far unless your scoring system really devalues QBs.

 

[32 Counter Pass]

Rodgers is simply used as an example. My point was to take value and not get locked into drafting by position early in a draft.

There is, and always will be, starting RBs after round 4. If you are dominant at the other positions it will more than make up for a weakness at RB.

 

[twistd]

Rodgers is simply used as an example. My point was to take value and not get locked into drafting by position early in a draft.There is, and always will be, starting RBs after round 4. If you are dominant at the other positions it will more than make up for a weakness at RB.

I believe that the pool of talent is deeper at QB, WR, and TE, than it is at RB this season. That is my perception. Last season I felt that there was a big drop off at WR and there was more depth at RB. I think it is much easier to find value at QB, WR, or TE after round 4 than it is at RB. So unless some extraordinary value appears at some position, like Rodgers dropping to the third round, I would probably want two RBs by the end of 4 rounds. And if you were to take two TEs in rounds 1 and 2, to me, it means you have to wait on something in rounds 3 and 4. I'd be more comfortable waiting on QB or WR, or both, than I would waiting at RB. And I don't feel that the QBs that are likely to be available at the 3/4 turn are going to justify the weakness I feel I would be likely to have at RB if I chose a QB at the 3/4 turn. That is my opinion.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Personally, I like diversity drafting early on. You aren't pidgeon-holed into forcing yourself to draft rb after rb round 4-6 to try to make up for your deficiency there by drafting. By doing that, you can bypass a steal or two (i.e a projected late 2nd round pick sliding to your 3rd rounder).

 

[Dez]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I just tried this startegy in a mock draft it did not turn out well the RB's were picked clean by pick 3.12 and 4.01.You end up faced with overpaying for avg RB's in the 3rd/4th rounds. Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson and Martin were all gone before my 3rd round pick. BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, Best and Spiller were all gone before my 5th round pick.So I was either starting at one of those guys (BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, Best and Spiller) in the 3rd or 4th round or scrubs in the 5th/6th.If the other 11 teams decide they each want 2-3 RB's in the 1st 3 rounds you are in serious trouble.

 

[Dez]

With a format like the FFPC, where the TEs get 1.5 a catch it would be a viable strategy. That would almost force you to go really late on QB. I'd think that you would almost have to take RBs at the 3/4 turn. According to the FBG ADP you would have Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson, and Doug Martin available. At the 5/6 turn you would have BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, and Spiller. But at WR you would have Desean Jackson, Antonio Brown, Brandon Lloyd, and Eric Decker available at the 5/6 turn. Over all this strategy is intriguing, but very risky. If there was a run on RBs before the 3/4 turn you could be in trouble.

I just tried this startegy in a mock draft it did not turn out well the RB's were picked clean by pick 3.12 and 4.01.You end up faced with overpaying for avg RB's in the 3rd/4th rounds. Bradshaw, Gore, Fred Jackson and Martin were all gone before my 3rd round pick. BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, Best and Spiller were all gone before my 5th round pick.So I was either starting at one of those guys (BJGE, Greene, Stewart, Redman, Best and Spiller) in the 3rd or 4th round or scrubs in the 5th/6th.If the other 11 teams decide they each want 2-3 RB's in the 1st 3 rounds you are in serious trouble.

In the FFPC I am confident those RBs will fall to you though in the rounds you said above because more TE's will go.In the FFPC though you would be lucky if either one made it to 1.12

 

[Kenny Powers]

Id absolutely take Gronk with one of the picks, but Id use the other on a QB if a Top 4 guy falls, or a RB.

 

[TheJewru]

Obviously depends on the starting requirements. If you can only start 1 TE, it's an obviously terrible idea. If you have multiple WR/TE flex spots, it's a viable strategy (especially if you have at least one mandatory TE spot). If you have something like 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 WR/TE flex, then I think it's another non-starter of a strategy. Filling in flex spots when there are still unfilled starting positions dramatically reduces your roster flexibility, and should only be done if the flex player presents substantially more value than the mandatory player. And Gronk/Graham just don't present a compelling enough case over a guy like Fitzgerald to warrant the sacrifice of your flex spot in the second round.

This!!!!!!!!! No other points are valid. Listen to this guy.

 

[Crazy Tony]

I think if there were two TE's to do this strategy with, it's GRONK/GRAHAM.

Again, it's a strategy. There's thought going into. If you can start 2 TEs it makes sense. They also warrant excellent trade value if you change your mind.

Hopefully you're picking in rounds 3-4 or something. But I would say there are more options at high level QB than there are at TE. WR/RB gets more complicated...you have studs/workhorses/RBBC or great players on bad teams, WRs w/ bad QBs. WR2s on great passing teams.

Based on the value that you're not drafting...how does it pencil out for you?

Run a couple MOCK drafts.

 

[Tanner9919]

Draft BOTH Gronk and Graham at the 1-2 turn? Here is my reasoning. Based on current FBG projections there's a decent drop off after te3, so you outscore every other team at the TE position by several points per game. Assuming you can start a TE as a flex, both Gronk and Graham still rate the same points per game as a WR1. Think of it as going WR & TE at the turn, but the WR is de facto your flex.

..it seems like a good idea, but I think you're getting too cute with the draft...you're putting all of your eggs in the TE basket..first off, is Gronk healthy, and can he remain healthy all season long?

secondly, with Graham, how will the loss of Payton affect the play calling?

next issue is this: last year was a record year for TE's..looking at all of the recent records that have been set ( Brady's TDs, Mannings TD's, Brees' passing yardage, Tomlinson's 2k season, CJs 2k season, etc), the player setting that record didn't come close to repeating that feat the following season..so going by that 'law' that we hear about , the regression to the mean, I think Gronk's numbers are in for a big, signifant dropoff, I've posted in another thread that I think Gronk will probably catch about 70 balls this season;DC's have had time to focus on him, McDaniels offenses don't typically use a lot of TE action, and the ankle issue is still out there..for a big heavy guy like that to have ankle issues , that worries me..

Gronk has a lot of questions surrounding him..I'd rather let someone else bite on the hype and draft him..

Graham is a safer pick because the only thing you have to worry about is play calling..

he's healthy, he's dominant...

I still think a guy like Witten is a diamond in the rough, because while everyone is drafting last year's stars like Gronk and Hernandez and Graham, Witten's value remains the same as always,yet his draft position is falling, meaning he represents solid gold value at his avg draft position ( 5th, 6th round?)

look at it like this, is Ryan Mathews , one of 4-5 RB's who are not RBBC, more valuable to your team than taking two TE's? with the lack of true 300+ carry RBs, the value of Foster, Mathews, etc is skyrocketing..QB's can be had later on ( big Ben?) WR's are dime a dozen and you can play the waiver wire for them) ..so why not go for a bell-cow RB and Graham?

 

[Golfjim]

First of all, the original poster said "you" were drafting at the end of Rd1 in a snake draft. I'm assuming that means 1:10, 1:11, or 1:12 and then coming around to 2:01, 2:02, or 2:03. In every PPR Mock, 12 teams, that I've looked at: Rice, Foster, McCoy, Johnson/WR, Mathews, MJD, and Rodgers, in no particular order, are off the board. That's 7 players with 2 more to go (probably Johnson/RB, for 1) until your turn at 1:10. So, if your question is would I take Gronk and Graham over McFadden (VERY injury prone), Fitz (Skelton the QB), or any of the other RBs still available (Lynch, Peterson, Charles, etc.). Then my answer would very readily be, "He!!, yea".

 

[GregR]

It's really easy to grab Draft Dominator and do a couple of quick mocks to actually see for oneself which strategy is better.

 

[footballnerd]

only if you can start 2, don't draft to trade one of them, you might as well draft what you were gonna trade for

 

[rizzler]

closer to draft time for many ppl... id like to see this topic resurface

 

[Tibereas]

 

[Manster]

This is intriguing if your leagues' scoring is 1.5 ppr for TE and you have a flex that allows a second TE. I just so happen to be in a 10 teamer with this scoring.

So I went onto FF calculator and did a mock from the the 10 spot in a 10 team mock. I only went thru 12 rounds as my daddy duties were callin. anyway here it is.

1. Graham

2. Gronk

3. Turner

4. Julio

5. McGahee

6. Romo

7. Gerhart

8. Hillis

9. Little

10. RG3

11. Santonio

12. Sid Rice

meh, prolly shoulda passed on Romo and grabbed another WR. Cant remember who was available. Couldnt pass on Turner/Julio even though on same team. Might play around with this some more......

 

[Caesar]

In a double flex with the 1.5 ppr for TE, you would be pretty happy to have these two at the turn. As was stated earlier, neither one of them is even lasting until the 12 pick.

I have seen 1 WR, 2TE, 5-6RB and 2-3QB off the board in the first round when the 12 spot comes around. If those two are sitting there in that format, though, I would snatch them up and ride the to the :championship:

Even in a 1PPR league, I think you have to consider this as a viable strategy in double flex leagues. WRs always emerge throughout the season, and I think you can make up for lack of RB power with those two picks.

I don't like this strategy in a single flex league because it pretty much locks in your flex player for all but two week. I like my "flex" to be a little more "flexible" Others may like being more consistent at the flex, but I think that just means you are going to be flailing at other positions week to week.

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

In a double flex with the 1.5 ppr for TE, you would be pretty happy to have these two at the turn. As was stated earlier, neither one of them is even lasting until the 12 pick.

I have seen 1 WR, 2TE, 5-6RB and 2-3QB off the board in the first round when the 12 spot comes around. If those two are sitting there in that format, though, I would snatch them up and ride the to the :championship:

Even in a 1PPR league, I think you have to consider this as a viable strategy in double flex leagues. WRs always emerge throughout the season, and I think you can make up for lack of RB power with those two picks.

I don't like this strategy in a single flex league because it pretty much locks in your flex player for all but two week. I like my "flex" to be a little more "flexible" Others may like being more consistent at the flex, but I think that just means you are going to be flailing at other positions week to week.

This is an excellent point.

 

[Manster]

That is a solid point. But, these guys have Brees and Brady throwin to em the ball. And they throw the ball a ton! And these guys are matchup nightmares.

They may not repeat last seasons numbers, but it feels like they will, or at least come close. Barring injury, these guys are both elite FF starters every week.

There is potential trouble with this strategy for sure. It could definately leave you thin at WR/RB. Might need some diamonds in the ruf to make it work.

 

[rizzler]

Went Graham and Gronk at 1.12/2.01 in one of the new MFL 10 Pay Leagues.

You can follow here: Draft in Progress

I'm team 12 (rizzler)

 

[Txns8]

Went Graham and Gronk at 1.12/2.01 in one of the new MFL 10 Pay Leagues.

You can follow here: Draft in Progress

I'm team 12 (rizzler)

Stafford #1 overall?

 

[rizzler]

Went Graham and Gronk at 1.12/2.01 in one of the new MFL 10 Pay Leagues.

You can follow here: Draft in Progress

I'm team 12 (rizzler)

Stafford #1 overall?

ya... no idea why, but it's his $

 

[Caesar]

That is a solid point. But, these guys have Brees and Brady throwin to em the ball. And they throw the ball a ton! And these guys are matchup nightmares.They may not repeat last seasons numbers, but it feels like they will, or at least come close. Barring injury, these guys are both elite FF starters every week.There is potential trouble with this strategy for sure. It could definately leave you thin at WR/RB. Might need some diamonds in the ruf to make it work.

I agree that they are going to be point producers. I can easily see getting into a situation where you take Graham/Gronk at the 1-2 turn, and then when the 3-4 turn comes around, you grab a couple of WR (RB) because they present the best value on the board. Now, you get back around to the 5-6 turn and the league you are in went crazy on the RB (WR) postition. (the one you didn't draft at the 3-4) Now, you have incredible value at WR (RB), but if you take that player in a single flex league, you are drafting a backup in the 5th or 6th round. Example... based on FBG ADP1.12 Graham2.01 Gronkowski3.12 Bradshaw4.01 Lynch5.12 ... if a run happened on WR, you may be looking at a choice between Torrey Smith or Robert Meacham as your #1 receiver, which already isn't good, but if you look on the board and see Doug Martin still sitting there, how do you pass on him here? 6.01 Meacham7.12 Denarius Moore8.01 Roethlisberger?? Griffin?? Now, you are drafting a backup/depth at the 5-6 turn before your starters are filled. I always try to avoid this unless I see incredible value for an individual. Point being, if I have set myself up early in a draft to allow for the flexibility of taking that incredible value, then it isn't an issue. Yes, you can lock yourself into WR/RB at the 3-4 turn to make sure this doesn't happen, but the whole point is that by taking your only FLEX with your second round pick, you are severely limiting your flexibility in the rest of the draft. You don't know what others are going to do. At least in a double flex, you still have that extra flex available in case great value falls to you. I was in a draft where someone went RB for the first FIVE rounds. I just don't understand drafting backups before starters. Regardless of what you think of the players I used as examples, I think you can see that starting your WR corps with Smith/Meacham will not look good, but starting it with only one of them and then having .... say Denarius Moore as your #2... you are really hurting at WR. While I think that you can cover some of this up with savvy waiver wire-ing... I prefer to be looking for depth and backups on the WW as opposed to every week starters. I didn't even mention the potentially sub-par QB situation you have left yourself with... So, all in all, you may feel like you are getting a great deal taking them the top two TEs at the 1-2 turn, but I think you hurt yourself virtually EVERYWHERE else.