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Pretty much and they play in the NFC.
They had more business losing to the Bears in Green Bay, then they did beating the Eagles or Redskins.
I could also see Washington, NYG or TB going into GB and beating them on the Divsional Playoff weekend.
You drop any NFC team into the AFC and they become middle of the road at best. I think that's been the case the past few years.
It's possible but I think they are quite a bit better than those teams since GB QB>>any of those teams and their defense > than any of those teams. Are they a legendary team team? No. Are they a good NFL team, very good NFC team? Yes.
The Saints with a legit defense (Saints downfall last year).
The Packers are what they are. They are not over-rated because the media is not on their bandwagon. It is all Dallas.
They are expected to go 1-1 no one is expecting them to beat Dallas. I just don't see any strangers on the Packer Wagon right now.
You wanna tell me who the 4th best team in the AFC is.... The Jacksonville Jaguars, that's who.. Are you going to tell me that they're a far superior team then the GB Packers? Yea, that Quinn Grey is AWESOME!And you wanna explain how for the most part the NFC Central has smacked the snot out of the AFC West if the AFC is so damn good?
Quite incorrect. Good corners. Fast linebackers. Loaded D line. This defense is good and improving. Very young.
Ummm, nflguru you are not...this defense is VERY good. Probably the best in the NFC.Barnett and Kampman have really started to play to their potential and the secondary is playing outstanding.
Right but Favre didn't publicly suggest that they mae those moves, and there weren't strong rumors that GB was going to make them.I agree, you can what if things to death, but it's rare that a trade scenario that was potentially 90% done but didn't happen could have such a huge impact on the league and possibly NFL history.Thought it was interesting to point out (and really shocked the media hasn't brought it up) and isn't meant at all to detract from GB's season or accomplishments to this point.
The D is #12 in the NFL. #19 vs. the pass #8 vs. the run. So statistically they are good not great. I think their front 7 is good, but their secondary is questionable. I think how the secondary plays vs. Detroit & Dallas back to back will go a long way to forecasting how they end the season.
The farve decision for this team going forward and how Rodgers picks it up will be very interesting. He has had a pretty good mentor and should play well. I like what they have done with the team - but stand by what I said.. The defense is not that good..They really have not played anyone good.. Some of the teams they beat were very lucky as well (Philly muffs a punt, KC allows the long pass to give them the lead late, ..) I think the test against Dallas will be about the only one they will have in the regular season. It should place them with home field advantage in the playoffs which helps their superbowl run.
You're going by yardage. Everybody knows that's not a good way of determining defensive strength. In the most important defensive stat which is obviously points allowed they're ranked 4th.
They may be over-achieving but they certainly aren't overrated. They have the same record as the Cowboys yet most everyone has the Cowboys ranked ahead of them. For a while people were saying the Giants are better than the Packers even though they spanked them earlier in the season. Even as late as last week people had the Steelers ranked ahead of Green Bay even though they had a worse record at the time and had lost at Denver while GB had won at Denver. If anything Green Bay is underrated.
Carolina got alot of garbage time yards last week when GB had the game well in hand.
ok then - since its obvious to you that everyone knows points allowed is how they should be viewed.. It is points allowed against poor teams no matter how you slice this..The combined record of the teams they have played is 47 - 54... Look at the offenses below and tell me you really believe they have played good teams with avg or better offenses?
I love the 5 wide. Run with a great QB like Favre, it is gold.
Are we now thinking that the Giants aren't very good? At this point in time where there are only a few top teams with a dropoff to some schitzo teams and then a layer of dreadful teams, whom has these quality wins you are talking about? Whom has Dallas beaten? Skins, Giants, Eagles, and whom else? Whom have the Colts beaten? Whom have the Jags or Steelers beaten?
Taking advantage of a weak schedule and will be exposed soon?????
That's just the way the NFL is now-a-days...full of mediocre and crappy teams. I'm guessing the Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, etc. schedule looks similar if not worse than the Packers.
The Giants have beaten Wash, Philly, NY Jets, Atlanta, San Fran, Miami & Detroit The Cowboys have beaten NYG, Miami, Chicago, St Louis, Buffalo, Minn, Philly & Wash
Really - not a hater even though I'm a bears fan.. My point was made about their defense.. Overall they have an above avg team (compared to the entire league) - and since they play in the NFC that places them among the best.. They have a valid shot at the superbowl due to the home field advantage - but to be honest if I was going to bet money against them and they were playing any of the below teams - I would take these teams straight up.NEThat's just the way the NFL is now-a-days...full of mediocre and crappy teams. I'm guessing the Cowboys, Giants, Steelers, etc. schedule looks similar if not worse than the Packers.
For all you haters who besides the Patriots, Colts & Cowboys is better than the Packers?
I don't see what the problem is. The Packers can only play who's on the schedule. That schedule isn't even that terrible. It's mostly middle of the road 4-6 and 5-5 teams. No great teams and no horrible teams.They're doing what they're supposed to do against them which is win games. And the defense is playing great while doing so.
