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I'm rethinking my top 6 rankings for RB's (1 Viewer)

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After looking at the Rams/Jackson stalemate I'm beginning to rethink my RB rankings (top 6) and just wanted bounce this off of someone else and get your opinion of how SJAX's holdout affects the RB rankings. I admit that if he signs within the next couple of weeks it will change everything again and he will probably move up to # 3, but we have all seen what holdouts can do to a RB productivity.

1. LT- Until he slows it's impossible to knock him off the top. He's averaging over his 7 year career 1521 rushing yds per season, 482 receiving yds per season, 18 tds per season (rushing and receiving combined).

2. ADP- It seems that every year there is a unanimous #2 pick, last year it was SJAX this year it's ADP. SJAX didn't live up to the hype last year with an injury slowing him down but there is no reason to believe that ADP can't live up to this ranking. I would like to see less of a RBBC approach in Minn, but what can you do? The offensive line is too good for him not to do well. Can you imagine what he would have done if he had a better QB that defenses had to respect (not knocking TJ, but come on)?

3. Westbrook- With a new contract I think he will live up to expectations (especially in PPR leagues). His injury history use to trouble me but I've gotten over it with his consistent performance over the past couple of years. It seems as if Philly's offense has gotten better this off-season and BWEST is the centerpiece of this offense. I look for him to put up comparable #'s to last year, which ranks him # 3 on my pre-season ranking.

4. Addia- After last years performance much more is expected from Addai, especially in this offense. Owners were happy with his improvement in TD's last year but were not so happy with his failure to improve in YPC and yardage total, especially after becoming "the man" after Rhodes left. Well now Rhodes is back and you may see some of Addai's carries taken away but I still believe he improves on last years totals.

5. Barber- In the Dallas high powered offense, Barber is a legit #5 pick. With the departure of J.Jones Barber is looking to expand his role as the starting RB. That means an increase in carries and the potential for more yards and more TD's. Some are worried that F. Jones will take some of his workload and I admit that he has talent and will take some of Barber's touches, but not to J.Jones capacity. I look for an improvement on last years totals which solidifies his position at #5. Some are worried that he doesn't have the stamina to handle the feature RB role but this guy is a beast, I think he can handle it.

6. Portis- Gone are the days of the 300 carry RB. With most teams employing the RBBC approach, any RB that gets this many touches is an oddity (a valuable oddity IMO). Washington offensive players are "horny for Zorny!" They love the opportunities they will have this year and I expect big things from the Washington offense as a result. If you are lucky enough to get Portis this year you must realize that you have to draft Betts.

SJAX is the wildcard here, if he signs in the next couple of weeks I expect him to vault up to #3 in these rankings based on the improvements in the St. Louis O Line and the influence that Al Saunders will have on the offense and what he has done in his career with feature RB's (see KC stats 2001- 2005). If SJAX and St. Louis owners can agree to terms I think he could live up to last years expectations. The problem is that he may holdout for a LONG TIME and if that happens people drafting around 5 or 6 will be tempted to draft SJAX, but before you do you must weigh the pro's and con's. A happy healthy SJAX in this improved system could produce incredible #'s, but you also can't disregard the history that holdouts have when they return to action (especially those who holdout and miss the entire preseason). My league drafts 5 days before the season starts and if SJAX hasn't signed by then, I'll have a hard time passing on him at #5 but, I KNOW that the options that will be available to me are just as capable of putting up great #'s. IMO I don't think the risk outweighs the reward with SJAX if he hasn't signed and misses the entire preseason.

What's your opinion of how SJAX's holdout affects the top 6 rankings??

 
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replace Barber with Jackson and you've got a nice looking top 6. Of course, I could see Gore replacing Addai as well...

 
I'm pushing S. Jackson down my list with everyday he misses. It seems players that hold out end up hurt.

 
replace Barber with Jackson and you've got a nice looking top 6. Of course, I could see Gore replacing Addai as well...
I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league.I especially loved the quote from Hard Knocks of Garrett saying "Remember that we already have an every down back in Marion Barber here."
 
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Rams can't afford for their franchise back to miss a single snap this year. They know it, Jackson knows it, his agent knows it. No way he's not signed before week 1. And like LT and Portis, he's simply getting some rest right now, something that should help him this year.

 
replace Barber with Jackson and you've got a nice looking top 6. Of course, I could see Gore replacing Addai as well...
I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league.
Where did you draft Barber and Gore? I actually have Gore ahead of Barber in my ppr.... Wondering if Gore slid to you... I've got the 6th draft spot and actually was thinking of going Gore over Addai--- 20 extra catches for Gore over Addai count the same as 6 tds in our 2pts per ppr league, so I think Gore can be valuable if he ups his catches.
 
"I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league."

Where did you draft Barber and Gore? I actually have Gore ahead of Barber in my ppr.... Wondering if Gore slid to you... I've got the 6th draft spot and actually was thinking of going Gore over Addai--- 20 extra catches for Gore over Addai count the same as 6 tds in our 2pts per ppr league, so I think Gore can be valuable if he ups his catches.

 
Rams can't afford for their franchise back to miss a single snap this year. They know it, Jackson knows it, his agent knows it. No way he's not signed before week 1. And like LT and Portis, he's simply getting some rest right now, something that should help him this year.
I think averyone agrees that SJAX needs to get into camp but the management in St. Louis hasn't been known for their smarts and I think Jackson is adamant about staying out until he gets what he wants because if he comes to camp and plays this final year of the contract he has they can franchise him next year for a single season and he still doesn't get his long-term deal. I'm starting to think that their stubbornness may get the best of them. Personally I can't imagine why they don't give him what he wants, he is young and a top back. I think this discussion however deserves its own forum.
 
"I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league."Where did you draft Barber and Gore? I actually have Gore ahead of Barber in my ppr.... Wondering if Gore slid to you... I've got the 6th draft spot and actually was thinking of going Gore over Addai--- 20 extra catches for Gore over Addai count the same as 6 tds in our 2pts per ppr league, so I think Gore can be valuable if he ups his catches.
I've aquired Gore through trades.
 
sjax is a workout freak and will be in top shape when he arrives. This deal will get done soon. I am not worried at all. It's just a matter of ego's now.

 
"I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league."Where did you draft Barber and Gore? I actually have Gore ahead of Barber in my ppr.... Wondering if Gore slid to you... I've got the 6th draft spot and actually was thinking of going Gore over Addai--- 20 extra catches for Gore over Addai count the same as 6 tds in our 2pts per ppr league, so I think Gore can be valuable if he ups his catches.
I've aquired Gore through trades.
That's a great RB combo.. not a bad nucleus....
 
Last season, I went through Steven Jackson, Marshawn Lynch, Earnest Graham, Ryan Grant, and Brandon Jacobs.

Nobody seems to last on my team. Lol.

But Barber has been there through all those guys. I've been stubborn and refusing to part with Barber. I see great things coming from him.

I got Gore for cheap and I'm expecting a very nice bounceback year, but not technically bouceback, cause he still did respectable last year.

 
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"I agree. I own Barber and Gore in my PPR keeper league."Where did you draft Barber and Gore? I actually have Gore ahead of Barber in my ppr.... Wondering if Gore slid to you... I've got the 6th draft spot and actually was thinking of going Gore over Addai--- 20 extra catches for Gore over Addai count the same as 6 tds in our 2pts per ppr league, so I think Gore can be valuable if he ups his catches.
I've aquired Gore through trades.
That's a great RB combo.. not a bad nucleus....
It is a great combo, i got the trio of Barber/Gore and LT as my 3 in one 12 team ppr league, looking for great things this year! (along with Braylon/Wayne/SSmith(car), Gonzo))
 
Ummmm, can I join that league?

Sounds like a bunch of people that don't know what's going on.

That or you are the most amazing fantasy owner ever.

Let me guess, you have at least ONE die hard Vince Young fan in that league?

 
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Ummmm, can I join that league?Sounds like a bunch of people that don't know what's going on.That or you are the most amazing fantasy owner ever.Let me guess, you have at least ONE die hard Vince Young fan in that league?
Actually, no. I own VY and can not deal him to anyone. I dealt AP to get MB3/Grant/Wayne and dealt Westy for LT to a Philly homer.My top 6: LT/AP/SJax/Westy/Addai/Gore. I am not that worried about SJax yet, he knows the system and this time off shouldn't hinder him, just hope he is staying in playing shape.
 
It is WAY too early to be dropping S Jax in rankings. There is a month to go before the season. He has plenty of time to sign and get in top shape.

 
The question imo is who is 3, assuming S Jax is ready to go (which he should be).

Westbrook is pretty tough to overlook with his consistent production. Yes, he gets dinged, but he wins games for fantasy teams when he plays.

 
Sorry as much as I love Barber I can't put him ahead of Portis. No one knows how Barber will be able to handle the role of starting running back and he is also not a safe bet to have 280 to 300 carries like Portis because the Cowboys drafted Felix Jones.

I like Gore also but I don't see the OL/QB giving him a chance to excel. Even in PPR leagues. Just my 2 cents.

 
What's your opinion of how SJAX's holdout affects the top 6 rankings??
I have concerns about Jackson's holdout, but it's difficult to drop him too far. You know if you don't draft him and he finishes top-3 you'll be kicking yourself.I also think you have Barber rated a bit too high, I'd have Gore in there instead.LT, Addai, ADP, Gore, Westy, Jackson, LJ, Lynch.... wouldn't surprise me if they all finish in the top-10.
 
Anyone else think he is refusing to show up at camp because he still isn't fully healed from that torn groin?

 
Could be, but the fact that he hasn't signed and they seem no where near being close to a deal has me scared. I sit at the #5 spot on draft night and I now believe he will fall to me, I've owned him in a redraft league since his rookie year so there is a little bias on my part but I feel I'll have to pass on him this year. His second half was impressive last year coming back from the injury but come draft night if he hasn't signed I can't draft someone with my first round pick that I don't know for sure will be in uniform. Owning him in the past I've struggled with an inept coach who doesn't know how to use his best player and come to deal with that, but this situation is a little different.

 
After looking at the Rams/Jackson stalemate I'm beginning to rethink my RB rankings (top 6) and just wanted bounce this off of someone else and get your opinion of how SJAX's holdout affects the RB rankings. I admit that if he signs within the next couple of weeks it will change everything again and he will probably move up to # 3, but we have all seen what holdouts can do to a RB productivity.1. LT- Until he slows it's impossible to knock him off the top. He's averaging over his 7 year career 1521 rushing yds per season, 482 receiving yds per season, 18 tds per season (rushing and receiving combined).2. ADP- It seems that every year there is a unanimous #2 pick, last year it was SJAX this year it's ADP. SJAX didn't live up to the hype last year with an injury slowing him down but there is no reason to believe that ADP can't live up to this ranking. I would like to see less of a RBBC approach in Minn, but what can you do? The offensive line is too good for him not to do well. Can you imagine what he would have done if he had a better QB that defenses had to respect (not knocking TJ, but come on)?3. Westbrook- With a new contract I think he will live up to expectations (especially in PPR leagues). His injury history use to trouble me but I've gotten over it with his consistent performance over the past couple of years. It seems as if Philly's offense has gotten better this off-season and BWEST is the centerpiece of this offense. I look for him to put up comparable #'s to last year, which ranks him # 3 on my pre-season ranking.4. Addia- After last years performance much more is expected from Addai, especially in this offense. Owners were happy with his improvement in TD's last year but were not so happy with his failure to improve in YPC and yardage total, especially after becoming "the man" after Rhodes left. Well now Rhodes is back and you may see some of Addai's carries taken away but I still believe he improves on last years totals.5. Barber- In the Dallas high powered offense, Barber is a legit #5 pick. With the departure of J.Jones Barber is looking to expand his role as the starting RB. That means an increase in carries and the potential for more yards and more TD's. Some are worried that F. Jones will take some of his workload and I admit that he has talent and will take some of Barber's touches, but not to J.Jones capacity. I look for an improvement on last years totals which solidifies his position at #5. Some are worried that he doesn't have the stamina to handle the feature RB role but this guy is a beast, I think he can handle it.6. Portis- Gone are the days of the 300 carry RB. With most teams employing the RBBC approach, any RB that gets this many touches is an oddity (a valuable oddity IMO). Washington offensive players are "horny for Zorny!" They love the opportunities they will have this year and I expect big things from the Washington offense as a result. If you are lucky enough to get Portis this year you must realize that you have to draft Betts.SJAX is the wildcard here, if he signs in the next couple of weeks I expect him to vault up to #3 in these rankings based on the improvements in the St. Louis O Line and the influence that Al Saunders will have on the offense and what he has done in his career with feature RB's (see KC stats 2001- 2005). If SJAX and St. Louis owners can agree to terms I think he could live up to last years expectations. The problem is that he may holdout for a LONG TIME and if that happens people drafting around 5 or 6 will be tempted to draft SJAX, but before you do you must weigh the pro's and con's. A happy healthy SJAX in this improved system could produce incredible #'s, but you also can't disregard the history that holdouts have when they return to action (especially those who holdout and miss the entire preseason). My league drafts 5 days before the season starts and if SJAX hasn't signed by then, I'll have a hard time passing on him at #5 but, I KNOW that the options that will be available to me are just as capable of putting up great #'s. IMO I don't think the risk outweighs the reward with SJAX if he hasn't signed and misses the entire preseason.What's your opinion of how SJAX's holdout affects the top 6 rankings??
replace Barber and Addai with McFadden and LJ and you've got yourself a solid top 6...Addai is an 'also-ran', the RC Cola of RB's , i.e., nothing special.Barber has a shot to be a top RB, but c'mon , F. Jones will play a huge part in this offense..not sure Barber gets 300+ carries, he's never proven he can handle the workload..
 
I admire the OP for taking a stand. Trying to figure out who is going to bust in the top 10 (and there always is one) is one of the hardest things to figure out every year. You pray you're not "that guy" and sometimes it just happens.

Take the previous post. OP hates Gore and Jackson, prior post hates Barber and Addai. Who's right? Maybe they're both wrong?

Who knows?

The one of the bunch that makes me the most nervous is Jackson. He looked good at the end of last year yes, but the situation is so unstable with him being out of camp. Even so that's not enough evidence to dismiss him entirely. The guy who takes him may get a steal. I like both Addai and Barber. Gore I just haven't come around to yet.

 

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