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LionsFan78
Footballguy
If I start him...it'd be over Warner. Toughest call I've had to make all year.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Am i the only one thinking of starting him over Romo?
Doubt it. That is one awful decision to make though as Hill versus the Rams seems like a cakewalk, but benching Romo for someone like Hill is a move that could haunt you all offseason if it costs you in a championship game.
Same boat, which way are you leaning?
PR Sparty
Footballguy
Same boat here as well. Thinking about Hill or M. Ryan over Warner
Got the Schuab, Hill, Romo trifecta. It wouldn't surprise me if Hill is the best out of the 3 with Martz facing his old team.
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LionsFan78
Footballguy
Leaning Hill, but I'm probably gonna hold it all till I see what the weather is like tommorrow. Me and my opponent are very evenly matched...#1 and #2 seeds...so "safer" points almost seem better right now. We shall see.
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skillz
Footballguy
Same dilemma for me. If I had to pick today I would go with Hill. I just have a bad feeling about Warner tomorrow. The weather, the offense is getting way too one dimensional which is making it easier to defend, away game on the East coast, and probably no Boldin. Plus, I got burned playing Brady last year in crappy NE weather so I don't want to get burned doing the same thing two years in a row.
faulkfan
Footballguy
I'm considering Hill over McNabb as well. The only way I can guarantee that McNabb goes off against the Skins is to sit him.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Right now I am punching myself in the face deciding between Hill and Romo. Normally, even against the Ravens I wouldn't be worried. However, Romo being dinged up, short week... hard hitting D with lots of pressue. I am hating this.
At this point I am honestly interested in what you decided. I would have found that to be a VERY tough decision to make, personally. Obviously it is only half time but I am hoping you ended up going Hill.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Looking good so far...I'll take 15-20 form Hill tomorrow over this Romo debacle. I also beched TO, should have benched Witten too.
Very well played at least right at the moment. And given the Ravens D, I can't fathom that will change.
Tau837
Footballguy
I have the same decision. I'm planning to start Hill, even though I have started Rivers all season. Consider the following.First, assorted rankings are not particularly helpful (unless you have a high preference for a particular set)I'm contemplating starting him over Philip Rivers.I'm torn. I know that Rivers has the higher ceiling, but Hill might be the "safer" play.Not sure yet.
odds ranks Hill higher.Bloom ranks Rivers higher.Rotoworld ranks Hill higher.Sportsline ranks Rivers higher. Under Sportsline's "Start 'Em" for this week:
Under Sportsline's matchups description for this week:
I had not been aware of the 4 missing starters for Tampa. Just when I was about to lean towards Hill...However, there is also the consideration of Rivers' home/road splits on the season:Home: 16 TDs, 3 interceptions, 114.9 QB ratingAway: 12 TDs, 8 interceptions, 89.7 QB ratingPlus, consider Rivers' performances this year in games that he had to go cross country (@MIA, @BUF, @PIT): on average, only 177 passing yards per game, with a total of 3 TDs and 3 interceptions and a QB rating of 75.9. (I guess it is those 3 games that really explain the home/road splits.)Not exactly conclusive, but hopefully helpful.ETA: And Floyd is out for San Diego.
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WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
I made the wrong choice. I had Hill in ALL WEEK long. I changed it to Romo exactly one minute before the line-ups locked.
cstu
Footballguy
Me too.
skol asylum
Footballguy
I've got Hill on the bench and the Rodgers-Jennings connection starting at the present time.
Maybe not the wrong choice after all, thanks to a big 4th quarter. You certainly have to feel decent about 250 2/2 especially given the first 3 quarters.
WiDDoW_MaKeR
Footballguy
Yes, now I feel great. However, I feel bad about dropping McClain 10 minutes before the game to make sure that I had Adrian Peterson to back up Forte, just in case. I have to start 3 running backs. I have Forte, Pierre Thomas, and Gore/Foster. Great matchups, but with Forte and Gore banged up, I was thinking about starting McClain over Gore or Foster. I was afraid that Gore would be active, but limited and I would be screwed either way. However... I still wouldn't have felt that great about starting McClain over Gore or Foster at St. Louis.
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
I am deciding between Hill and McNabb in one league, Hill and Warner in another.
In the Hill/Warner league, I also have Fitz at WR. Starting Hill would mitigate the risk that Warner AND Fitz suck. Coupled with the fact that I have to start Warner in a 3rd league, I am leaning towards Hill.
Going to have to wait until gametime to see how the weather is looking.
In the Hill/Warner league, I also have Fitz at WR. Starting Hill would mitigate the risk that Warner AND Fitz suck. Coupled with the fact that I have to start Warner in a 3rd league, I am leaning towards Hill.
Going to have to wait until gametime to see how the weather is looking.
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Schaub or Hill.
Leaning Schaub.
Leaning Schaub.
Post Corner
Footballguy
Bench McNabb over Hill? Are you nutts?
McNabb is the hottest QB in all of fantasy since getting benched a few weeks ago. Hill worries me with a banged up Gore, who he needs to keep the defense honest (I don't care how bad the Rams D is... parody in the NFL says even the Rams can cue in on a pass-only attack).
Plus, everyone is making a big deal about Martz facing his old team... WELL, what about HIS OLD TEAM facing Martz? Don't you figure the defense knows exactly what is coming at them and it is something they have practiced against over and over through the years?? (still lots of veterans on the STL defense).
I don't care if McNabb is down to his fourth WR, as long as he has Westbrook, he is a must play. No discussion. I trust McNabb. I don't trust Hill (and the Niners). Plus, the Eagles have playoff hopes on the line, and the Cowboys loss last night makes the game today even more important for the Eagles.
Last, as far as people saying Hill is "safe", I would strongly disagree. He is a classic high-risk, high-reward pick that has a much lower floor than McNabb. I can see several scenarios where Hill has a disastrous game. I would only start him if I felt I was completely backed in a corner and needed to roll the dice on a monster game figuring I would probably lose anyway if I didn't bring an x-factor to the line-up.
P.S. - FWIW, I have both McNabb and Hill on my roster and available for the championship.
McNabb is the hottest QB in all of fantasy since getting benched a few weeks ago. Hill worries me with a banged up Gore, who he needs to keep the defense honest (I don't care how bad the Rams D is... parody in the NFL says even the Rams can cue in on a pass-only attack).
Plus, everyone is making a big deal about Martz facing his old team... WELL, what about HIS OLD TEAM facing Martz? Don't you figure the defense knows exactly what is coming at them and it is something they have practiced against over and over through the years?? (still lots of veterans on the STL defense).
I don't care if McNabb is down to his fourth WR, as long as he has Westbrook, he is a must play. No discussion. I trust McNabb. I don't trust Hill (and the Niners). Plus, the Eagles have playoff hopes on the line, and the Cowboys loss last night makes the game today even more important for the Eagles.
Last, as far as people saying Hill is "safe", I would strongly disagree. He is a classic high-risk, high-reward pick that has a much lower floor than McNabb. I can see several scenarios where Hill has a disastrous game. I would only start him if I felt I was completely backed in a corner and needed to roll the dice on a monster game figuring I would probably lose anyway if I didn't bring an x-factor to the line-up.
P.S. - FWIW, I have both McNabb and Hill on my roster and available for the championship.
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Post Corner
Footballguy
In addition to McNabb, I would NOT start Hill over Rodgers or Rivers (two QBs mentioned above).
BeaverCleaver
Footballguy
SteelerMurf
Footballguy
Hill over Thiggy and Cassel maybe
FFdork
Footballguy
This has been my thinking all week. Now I'm reading there's rain in the forecast. I am NOT one of those guys that overreacts to weather, but sometimes I do use it as a tie-breaker on decisions. Are the missing receivers + Washington + weather enough to make Hill > McNabb this week? My head says yes and my gut says no. So far I'm sticking with my gut.
Gigantomachia
Footballguy
Hill over Big Ben.
Post Corner
Footballguy
I go with McNabb unless a monsoon hits D.C., which is NOT the case. Plus, Fanball was reporting rain per the Eagles site, but the Weather Channel has everything looking clear and nice for kickoff:http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USDC0001
Bad reporting on Fanball's part, particularly this close to kickoff and so much $$$ at stake!
silvergold
Footballguy
Figure it would have to be this week but i'm currently starting hill over warner and shaub although the weather in oakland doesn't look that bad so i'm leaning back towards shaub...
Post Corner
Footballguy
Not a Hill hater as he bailed me out a couple of times this year, but I would go with Schaub if I had him.
silvergold
Footballguy
Loomba
Footballguy
I am leaning towards Hill over Rodgers and Rivers in one league. Don't like the fact that is going to be very cold in Chicago tomorrow night and I don't trust Rivers on the road, especially on the east coast.
In another league, I am starting McNabb over Hill given McNabb's recent resurgence and a somewhat safer pick (unlike the younger Rodgers and Rivers in the first league).
In another league, I am starting McNabb over Hill given McNabb's recent resurgence and a somewhat safer pick (unlike the younger Rodgers and Rivers in the first league).
Post Corner
Footballguy
Anything can happen, but the odds have served me well and here is a summary of QBs discussed:
I would start OVER Hill:
McNabb
Rodgers
Schaub
Brees (duh)
Rivers
Thigpen
Cutler
I would start HILL and sit:
Warner
Cassel
Big Ben
Kerry Collins (hopefully obvious)
Matt Ryan
T. Jackson (one week wonder)
Delhomme
Eli Manning
Jason Campbell
Dorsey (duh)
Fitzpatrick
Anyone in Buffalo or Chicago
Bulger
Orvlosky (sp? toughest call on the list, but slight edge to Hill)
Wallace
Russell
Pennington
I think that is everyone that hasn't played yet...
I would start OVER Hill:
McNabb
Rodgers
Schaub
Brees (duh)
Rivers
Thigpen
Cutler
I would start HILL and sit:
Warner
Cassel
Big Ben
Kerry Collins (hopefully obvious)
Matt Ryan
T. Jackson (one week wonder)
Delhomme
Eli Manning
Jason Campbell
Dorsey (duh)
Fitzpatrick
Anyone in Buffalo or Chicago
Bulger
Orvlosky (sp? toughest call on the list, but slight edge to Hill)
Wallace
Russell
Pennington
I think that is everyone that hasn't played yet...
skol asylum
Footballguy
It's morning and I still can't start Hill over Rodgers. Already starting Foster in that game. Somebody convince me I'm wrong? 
