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impending snow/wind event Sunday - where will be the question (1 Viewer)

you shold never bench a player based on whether because the wind might end up blowing a ball far and into a speedy and streaking wide reciver's hands for a 80 yard Td
Best advice ever!
Not really. Bad weather is certainly a factor with QB's, WR's and K's. I'm not talking about temps in the 20's and 30's with snow and little wind as bad weather. But you're kinding yourself it you don't think that temps in the teens with 25-40 mph winds won't have an adverse effect on Brady and Cutler.
 
Per Weather.com as of now it's supposed to be upper 40s/low 50s and raining with 15-17 mph winds on Sunday here in NYC. Unless it's raining really hard it doesn't seem like a big deal. These guys have played in this weather many times.

 
CHICAGO- SUNDAY- I have been watching this forecast. Currently- it is sunny and about 37 very calm. Saturday it is supposed to start to change with potential for rain turning to snow but Sunday is looking absolutely terrible with winds now being projected between 25- 40 MPH. The actual temperature will only hit about 20 so wind chills are going to be ridiculous. Use caution with the wind advisory and pay attention to this forecast because I just heard that the wind is going to be coming directly from the north and it is supposed to be vicious.
And for anyone who doesn't know about our local geography, this is a recipe for significant lake effect snow. Soldiers Field is right on the lake on the southeast side of the Loop. That area is the most susceptible to lake effect snow because it's on the part of the Chicago lakeshore that catches a good portion of those winds out of the north and northeast.
Well Chicago doesn't usually get significant lake effect snow. It's more lake enhancement snow than pure lake effect snow, but it is worth watching since it will be an ideal setup this weekend. The counties in Indiana along lake Michigan get the good lake effect snow. The #1 issue is going to be the winds without a doubt. The arctic air coming in combined with the departing, deepening low pressure system will create a strong pressure gradient. Pittsburgh sees mainly rain with warm southerly winds dominating. At some point during the game the rain changes to snow as colder air works it, but by then most of the precip is gone. Maybe they get an inch or two on the back side.

Buffalo is Rain. Eventually the lake effect machine will kick in, but that will be after the game is over.

Everywhere else east is rain and yes, NYC will be 50 and rain.

And as for why meteorologists get a bad rep? Cause Accuweather and the weather channel have to hype everything.

 
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The #1 issue is going to be the winds without a doubt.
You seem to have a pretty good grasp on what we can expect on Sunday. The consensus seems to be that the passing games will only be adversely affected where wind gusts exceed 25-30mph. If this is accurate, which are the games where people should consider downgrading their QBs and WRs? From your synopsis I would assume only NE/CHI?
 
I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything, but before you give up on brady for skelton, or whoever, bear in mind that he's a superaccurate passer with a rifle and the great bulk of his passing doesn't go all that deep downfield --- if the wind is really an issue, they'd probably focus even more on shorter routes to welker, woody, et al.

I'd be more worried about cutler, but I'd be concerned about starting him on a sunny day in a dome.

in '07 brady threw for a low % against a tough balt defense on an extremely windy day, but still managed 250/2.

 
The #1 issue is going to be the winds without a doubt.
You seem to have a pretty good grasp on what we can expect on Sunday. The consensus seems to be that the passing games will only be adversely affected where wind gusts exceed 25-30mph. If this is accurate, which are the games where people should consider downgrading their QBs and WRs? From your synopsis I would assume only NE/CHI?
Really, Just Chicago. The other cities are on the warmer sector of the sytem and won't see stronger winds until the arctic air works its way south. Fortunately, that occurs after the games. The other area to watch is Jacksonville, FL (not that people are really relying on those QBs anyways). The cold front also extends all the way south to FL. There will be just a brief period of 30MPH gusts. It is very difficult to pin point the exact timing that this occurs. (Model have it happening in the 10AM t0 2PM Range). I don't think you can justify benching Tom Brady since he has been so good lately and also because he throws a lot of short passes. Cutler on the other hand is a different story.
 
Anyone starting the Chicago / NE D because of this? Could be an ugly low scoring one.
I'm benching Chi D. NE, weather or not, just doesn't make mistakes. BJGE has yet to fumble in his CAREER. Brady's TD/Int ratio is non-existant. If you play Chi D you have to hope Hester breaks a return.I'm going with Cle D right now instead.I watched video weather reports in all cities that could be impacted by this storm. Here's how I see it:1. Chicago/NE -- Most impacted. Frigid with snow and wind. I would not expect a lot of scoring. If I had equal or better options I'd sit both Brady and Cutler.2. Buffalo/Cle -- Looks to be mostly rain to start, but it's possible there is mix later in the game. Wind and cold not expected really til after game. Could be sloppy/slippery. Running games should be fine. Not sure you're starting passing games for either team.3. Pitt/Cinci -- Looks similar to Buff/Cle but maybe less chance of mix and wind. I'd probably treat all starters as you normally would.4. Jax/Oak -- Looks like this could be surprisingly impacted. Warm, but with rain and wind. I'd be wary of Garrard for this reason and because they'll run MJD anyway. Running games look like great bets here.My opponent has Garrard (or Cutler), BJGE, P. Hillis, B. Watson. I sure hope the weather screws up the majority of these players. Although I'm scared to death of Hillis.KY
 
Anyone starting the Chicago / NE D because of this? Could be an ugly low scoring one.
I'm benching Chi D. NE, weather or not, just doesn't make mistakes. BJGE has yet to fumble in his CAREER. Brady's TD/Int ratio is non-existant. If you play Chi D you have to hope Hester breaks a return.I'm going with Cle D right now instead.I watched video weather reports in all cities that could be impacted by this storm. Here's how I see it:1. Chicago/NE -- Most impacted. Frigid with snow and wind. I would not expect a lot of scoring. If I had equal or better options I'd sit both Brady and Cutler.2. Buffalo/Cle -- Looks to be mostly rain to start, but it's possible there is mix later in the game. Wind and cold not expected really til after game. Could be sloppy/slippery. Running games should be fine. Not sure you're starting passing games for either team.3. Pitt/Cinci -- Looks similar to Buff/Cle but maybe less chance of mix and wind. I'd probably treat all starters as you normally would.4. Jax/Oak -- Looks like this could be surprisingly impacted. Warm, but with rain and wind. I'd be wary of Garrard for this reason and because they'll run MJD anyway. Running games look like great bets here.My opponent has Garrard (or Cutler), BJGE, P. Hillis, B. Watson. I sure hope the weather screws up the majority of these players. Although I'm scared to death of Hillis.KY
What about DC? Grabbed Armstrong but can't decide if he's worth the risk. I have so many question marks at WR this weekend it's ridiculous. Nicks, BMW, & Obomanu dealing with injuries, Armstrong and Woodhead dealing with weather. I might end up having to start Amendola and Alexander against NO.
 
As far as NE/CHI goes, I'm trying to think about the receivers impacted (and not). It seems a case could be made to bench guys like Knox, Hester, Tate and start guys like Woodhead or Bennett (I think he gets lots of short action). I feel like NE pass-catchers a crapshoot anyway, so unclear on effects on guys like Branch, Hernandez, Gronkowski.

 
I just switched Ryan Fitzpatrick back in for Eli Manning. I'm not too happy with either one, but if the wind won't be too bad, I think Fitz could have a decent day. I think it behooves the Bills to throw the ball a bunch and try to get a decent lead rather than let Cleveland pound the ball all day with Hillis.

 
I've always been one to start my studs in the playoffs. But that usually means matchup plays only. In this case I not only have to think about Brady matching up against the Bears Defense, but also the weather. (snow doesn't scare me, winds do) If it was just the defense, I would start Brady. The closer it gets to gametime, the worse the weather looks in Chicago, and he better it looks in Buffalo.

I could always go with door number 3 and pick up Drew Stanton. He's going to be playing in a perfect 70 degree dome. (shoot me now)

 
clearly the weather won't effect the game in minny, stupid dome, but the news just said the airport is closed and that the giants had to land in Kansas City. not sure it will effect the team or not? the airport could be closed till late tonight, meaning the giants schedule is going to be thrown out of whack.

just passing on the info.

 
CHICAGO- freezing rain is coming down but not quite sleet yet. I will post in the evening or morning to let you know. I was about 2 miles from Soldier's Field at 1 pm and it was balmy with a cold rain.

 
CHICAGO- freezing rain is coming down but not quite sleet yet. I will post in the evening or morning to let you know. I was about 2 miles from Soldier's Field at 1 pm and it was balmy with a cold rain.
Yup. Steady rain here for the past few hours with periodic gusts of high wind. And it's only going to get worse, if the radar is any indication. This could switch over to sleet before we even get hit by the back side of the storm, which looks like a fully cranked slingshot right now. Looking very ugly.
... WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM SUNDAY TO MIDNIGHT CST SUNDAY NIGHT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WARNING FOR ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL... AND WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 45 MPH WHICH WILL REDUCE VISIBILITY DOWN TO A QUARTER MILE AT TIMES AND PRODUCE BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW... WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 3 AM SUNDAY TO MIDNIGHT CST SUNDAY NIGHT. THE WINTER STORM WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* TIMING... TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY NIGHT ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST ILLINOIS... .AND NORTHWEST INDIANA.

* SNOW ACCUMULATIONS... 4 TO 6 INCHES POSSIBLE ALONG AND NORTH OF A LINE FROM NEAR ROCKFORD TO JOLIET TO RENSSELAER WITH LOWER AMOUNTS SOUTHWEST. LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS ARE POSSIBLE... ESPECIALLY ACROSS FAR NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS IN AREAS CLOSEST TO LAKE MICHIGAN.

* HAZARDS... WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 45 MPH... BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW... REDUCED VISIBILITY... BITTERLY COLD WIND CHILLS TO AROUND 25 BELOW ZERO SUNDAY NIGHT.
 
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I just switched Ryan Fitzpatrick back in for Eli Manning. I'm not too happy with either one, but if the wind won't be too bad, I think Fitz could have a decent day. I think it behooves the Bills to throw the ball a bunch and try to get a decent lead rather than let Cleveland pound the ball all day with Hillis.
Eli plays in a Dome right?
 
I just switched Ryan Fitzpatrick back in for Eli Manning. I'm not too happy with either one, but if the wind won't be too bad, I think Fitz could have a decent day. I think it behooves the Bills to throw the ball a bunch and try to get a decent lead rather than let Cleveland pound the ball all day with Hillis.
Eli plays in a Dome right?
Right but he and the gaints are stuck in KC! :confused: .... I got funny feeling that they might fly up early Sunday and go from the airport right to the dome. Not sure if that will effect the time. (Differnt routine and must likely less sleep)
 
http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/meteomadn...video-ready.asp

Skins, Jets, Bills, Steelers, Bears all may be effected by high winds and Precip

I am getting backup plans ready if this unfolds

Just an FYI
there is virtually no shot at snow (or any wintry precip) in NYC or DC. We will be on the east side of the low pressure circulation (warm side of the storm, southerly air flow)...Chi/buf probably a different story....pit mixed precip.
Correct. Even in Chicago there will be no effect since it will be out of there by game time. This storm is far from a lock and the computer models are all over the place. I was reading in some other threads that people were afraid of a Chicago Blizzard. That couldn't be further from the truth.Yes, it will be windy but will be overcast with temps in the 20s for kickoff.

One other thing. Watch for some rain in Charlotte, NC too
And you know this three days in advance because?
I studied meteorology
Dude. Find another occupation.
 
I just switched Ryan Fitzpatrick back in for Eli Manning. I'm not too happy with either one, but if the wind won't be too bad, I think Fitz could have a decent day. I think it behooves the Bills to throw the ball a bunch and try to get a decent lead rather than let Cleveland pound the ball all day with Hillis.
Eli plays in a Dome right?
Right but he and the gaints are stuck in KC! :headbang: .... I got funny feeling that they might fly up early Sunday and go from the airport right to the dome. Not sure if that will effect the time. (Differnt routine and must likely less sleep)
Eli over Fitz seems like a no-brainer but Ive been wrong before. Once. :yucky:
 
Raining now in DC area. Supposed to rain/sleet/snow a bit tonight, change to rain tomorrow, and as temperatures fall tomorrow or tomorrow night at some point it may turn back to snow.

 
Raining now in DC area. Supposed to rain/sleet/snow a bit tonight, change to rain tomorrow, and as temperatures fall tomorrow or tomorrow night at some point it may turn back to snow.
The game is at 1pm. What happens tomorrow night is slightly irrelevant. Forecast for tomorrow at 1pm is for temperatures near 50. I don't see it snowing at 50 degrees. Apparently it will be raining though.
 
I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.

 
I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.
Talk to me in 18 hours...a lot can change.
 
fo shizzle said:
I just switched Ryan Fitzpatrick back in for Eli Manning. I'm not too happy with either one, but if the wind won't be too bad, I think Fitz could have a decent day. I think it behooves the Bills to throw the ball a bunch and try to get a decent lead rather than let Cleveland pound the ball all day with Hillis.
Eli plays in a Dome right?
Right but he and the gaints are stuck in KC! :wub: .... I got funny feeling that they might fly up early Sunday and go from the airport right to the dome. Not sure if that will effect the time. (Differnt routine and must likely less sleep)
Eli over Fitz seems like a no-brainer but Ive been wrong before. Once. :goodposting:
Eli with Steve Smith and and Nicks is much different than Eli without. Now that the game has been moved back a day, making it more likely that they'll both play, I think it's probably tilted things back in Eli's favor.If they both don't play though, I think I'll be worse off than starting Fitz.
 
Why doesn't N.Y. have to forfeit if they can't make the contest? It's not like the weather has not been known all week.

 
Why doesn't N.Y. have to forfeit if they can't make the contest? It's not like the weather has not been known all week.
because this isn't beer league softball. There are playoff positions on the line, not to mention the thousands of dollars fans have spent to attend this game. 1 of only 8 home games all year.Are you playing against Peterson or Bradshaw?
 
Why doesn't N.Y. have to forfeit if they can't make the contest? It's not like the weather has not been known all week.
because this isn't beer league softball. There are playoff positions on the line, not to mention the thousands of dollars fans have spent to attend this game. 1 of only 8 home games all year.Are you playing against Peterson or Bradshaw?
Neither. I just think you make it to the game as scheduled absent unforeseen and unavoidable events. This was neither.
 
Rain just started in NYC. NYC will be the wettest spot from this sytem ( will get between 1-2 inches of Rain), but there is a chance there could be a temporary lull in the action. Wether or not that occurs during the game is still to be seen. Gonna have to follow the radar. Either way it should be a low scoring game. Chicago is currently snowless, but we will have to watch the lake effect activity before the game.

Charlotte, NC will be fine. Rain will pass prior to kickoff.

Jacksonville will be a close call.

Regardless, radar watching is a must on Sunday.

 
Back end of the storm is hitting Chicago now. Winds are just starting to pick up. Wind chill at 15 and dropping. Snow coming down steadily.

 
Pittsburgh weather:

Today - Rain showers. Snow showers this afternoon. Little or no snow accumulation. Highs around 40. Temperature falling into the lower 30s this afternoon. Southeast winds 5 to 10 mph...becoming south this afternoon. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.

 
I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.
Yeah - the Chicago and NE players have NEVER played in snow and wind.

 
25 at the lakefront in Chicago with snow coming down slowly. There is still blizzard and high winds forecast for the day. One thing to keep in mind- the field at Soldier Field can get very messy and I see that here. It will be awesome football to watch but I think it will be something like that crazy 49'er game a few years back where the wind was just silly.

 
Back end of the storm is hitting Chicago now. Winds are just starting to pick up. Wind chill at 15 and dropping. Snow coming down steadily.
Thanks pantagrapher, how do you think conditions will be by the 4pm gametime? (Deciding between Cutler, Fitz, Stanton)
 
Back end of the storm is hitting Chicago now. Winds are just starting to pick up. Wind chill at 15 and dropping. Snow coming down steadily.
Thanks pantagrapher, how do you think conditions will be by the 4pm gametime? (Deciding between Cutler, Fitz, Stanton)
Well, it's supposed to get colder throughout the day and the winds are not likely to subside, from what I'm reading. The snow from the storm is supposed to stop before game time, but then depending on the wind, we could be getting another 2 to 4 inches of lake effect factoring in, since the stadium is right on the lake. I'm an advocate of starting your studs even in bad weather, but I'm going to say this is a significant weather event and I would have a hard time starting anything other than RBs and defenses for this one.
 
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I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.
and take the under?
I'm benching the NE run game. It's not like NE is gonna run wild on the CHI Def which is a strong run stopping unit.CHI is not the team that you want to gear up the run game against.
 
I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.
and take the under?
I'm benching the NE run game. It's not like NE is gonna run wild on the CHI Def which is a strong run stopping unit.CHI is not the team that you want to gear up the run game against.
hows it looking in Pitt? Thoughts on Big Ben's performance today?
 
I'm in the west burbs of Chicago and it sucks right now. Windy cold rain/snow crap. Roads are bad. Everything sucks. And its just supposed to get worse. Can't Play football in this. Bench your Chicago/new England passing games.
and take the under?
I'm benching the NE run game. It's not like NE is gonna run wild on the CHI Def which is a strong run stopping unit.CHI is not the team that you want to gear up the run game against.
Have a funny feeling that special teams is going to win or lose this game.Going to be a battle of field position. Both teams being VERY careful with the ball. Team that makes the first big mistake loses.Weather plus uber conservative play calling would have me bench everyone in these games for better options.KY
 

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