1) subscribeI’m sorry, that song makes me want to overthrow governments."
Loved that song as a kid. Because the doggone girl is mine...We have already covered another MJ duet, "The Girl Is Mine."
Upon close listen, I decided it's not a bad song. Shockingly, even Mr. krista likes it.Loved that song as a kid. Because the doggone girl is mine...
Temporary Secretary will be discussed.I am not nearly as familiar with much of the Fab Four's post-Beatle work as I am with their Beatles catalogue, but I am so in for this. Let's be honest, at this point of stay-at-home Day 2359, Krista could comment on her favorite words contained within a Beatles song, and I'd be right here for it. Plus, Temporary Secretary.
Sweet. I mean, I know the hits, and I've heard some others on The Beatles Channel, although I doubt they get too obscure on deep album cuts. I look forward to being exposed to new stuff.Upon close listen, I decided it's not a bad song. Shockingly, even Mr. krista likes it.
Temporary Secretary will be discussed.That whole McCartney II album is wacky, mostly in a good way. There's another song from it that Mr. krista currently has in his top three of everything we've listened to so far (basically all of 70s/80s McCartney minus Pipes of Peace).
Speaking of the Beatles Channel, considering I'm in my car so little these days, I've been missing hearing the channel. Yet somehow when I do get to listen, Meg Griffin is always on.Sweet. I mean, I know the hits, and I've heard some others on The Beatles Channel, although I doubt they get too obscure on deep album cuts. I look forward to being exposed to new stuff.
I'm a teacher. I will be home until August. Maybe longer. I can wait.Speaking of the Beatles Channel, considering I'm in my car so little these days, I've been missing hearing the channel. Yet somehow when I do get to listen, Meg Griffin is always on.
I don't think I'm going to be able to help your quarantine blues with this countdown. It's going to be a while. I'll feel like we've accomplished a lot when we just get through Paul's stuff. Paul and George fans should like this countdown, though, since they'll get most of the focus this time. John didn't live long enough to give me a ton to list, and Ringo is Ringo.
I think I'm up to 36Love it!
A friend sent me this today; figured it might keep some of you guys busy for a little while: find the 39 Beatles songs.
Well crap, didn't mean to go spoiler inside spoiler there but whatever
2007 PM solo is about as new and semi obscure as I can come up with for this thread.Sweet. I mean, I know the hits, and I've heard some others on The Beatles Channel, although I doubt they get too obscure on deep album cuts. I look forward to being exposed to new stuff.
Lol. Amazing. I read the entire rant to Mrs APK and she wasHey iFriends! A month or so ago, I was putting together my 2020 rankings and realized that, since I cared very little about them, I couldn't expect anyone else to care either. I'm nixing that idea.
I had, however, previously mentioned a Part II to my 2020 Beatles-related plans, and you guys sussed out the general idea, which is to rank post-Beatles works of the Fab Four. I AM NOT RANKING ALL THE SONGS. Did you know, for instance, that Ringo has 20 post-Beatles solo albums? Ringo. So it's going to be a while before I get to this, as while I won't rank all the songs, I am listening to them all with "new ears" for purposes of this project.
My initial thought had been to tie the rankings in with the Beatles song rankings (I had a plan), but I've put that aside. I'll be ranking and discussing only the songs I like the most, with a twist. In addition to the discussion of my favorites, I'll be interspersing some of thread-favorite Mr. krista's rants about songs that won't be making the list. Here's a sample - I don't think I'd need to tell you which song this is:
"So strange that the nadirs of two brilliant artists were achieved in the exact same song. Brilliant songwriters, brilliant musicians, responsible for my favorite music ever. A song so forced, so contrived, a metaphor so obvious and lame and WRONG, JUST WRONG. The black keys are not in harmony with the white keys. That’s the point of them! They’re dissonant; they’re in harmony with each other. And there are like four times as many white keys as black keys. They’re larger and dominant. It’s so wrong. Stevie Wonder did a pretty good job exploring race in contemporary America, and Paul McCartney is not a racist, but we’re gonna cash in on the fact that we’re a white guy and a black guy. That’s the thing about you guys? Forget all the corny 80s oo-laa, the cheeseball instrumentation and the lite FM garbage. It’s just hopelessly naïve and wrong. It’s the 80s - a pogrom on black America and urban America - and we have this ####. I think that song would be better if Stevie Wonder just decided to cut Paul McCartney in it. Get him before they get us all, and thwack. I hate that song so much. How he went from that John Lennon song (Editor's note: "Here Today") earlier that I loved so much to this…I hate this almost as much as I loved the song I liked. The Beatles basically integrated concerts in the south of the US, so it’s not like he’s ignorant of what went on here…but why can’t we live together like these keys on a piano? Wtf? Are you that far removed from…JFC. Stevie, what are you ####### thinking, man? That drives me ####### nuts. That song is basically the Democratic party, right there. So well-intentioned, so feckless, so wrong. It’s like Jesse Helms says Jews are genetically sneaky and black people shouldn’t have the right to buy meat on Wednesdays, and Paul McCartney is like “hey, ebony and ivory, man, why can’t we all get along?” Bland music to let everyone feel good about “right thinking.” "I can’t be a racist; I would also like to get along with Stevie Wonder." I’m sorry, that song makes me want to overthrow governments."
Since @Dinsy Ejotuz mentioned his list, I wanted to look back at it. I spy a couple on here that definitely aren't going to be in my discussion, plus a couple more that are iffy.#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)
#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
#6 It Don't Come Easy (Starr [Harrison])
#7 Band on the Run (McCartney)
#8 Jet (McCartney)
#9 Photograph (Starr)
#10 Give Me Love (Harrison)
#11 With a Little Luck (McCartney)
#12 Live and Let Die (McCartney)
#13 Maybe I'm Amazed (McCartney)
#14 Listen to What the Man Says (McCartney)
#15 Stand by Me (Lennon [King])
#16 Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)
#17 Another Day (McCartney)
#18 Happy X-mas (Lennon)
#19 Whatever Gets You Through the Night (Lennon)
#20 Let Em In (McCartney)
#21 Watching the Wheels (Lennon)
#22 Starting Over (Lennon)
#23 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (McCartney)
#24 Woman (Lennon)
#25 #9 Dream (Lennon)
First, thanks to Krista for inspiring this. I'd been thinking about it for a while and she motivated me to pull it together. (NO idea how you could do this with 200+ songs -- I struggled a ton sorting out the middle ten here.)
Notes:
--It would be impossible for this list to be any more subjective. It's my favorites, not "best".
--Cheated with one cover, but Lennon's version of Stand By Me is a great song and a lot better than the other contenders I had at #25.
--Was pleasantly surprised my Top-10 was more balanced than I expected -- Lennon had two of my top four. But then nothing again until #15. I just like McCartney's songs better on average.
--Harrison killed it at #1, #3, #6?, and #10.
--Both of Ringo's were in the top 10 too, but one of those is actually a Harrison tune (It Don't Come Easy).
--If anyone ever asks you which solo song is most like the Beatles -- you can suggest "Another Day". Not sure which album I'd drop it onto, but it'd fit somewhere.
--Other considered, but cut: Crackerbox Palace, All Those Years Ago, Isn't It a Pity (Harrison), Hi Hi Hi, My Love, Coming Up, Junior's Farm, 1985 (McCartney), Working Class Hero, Power to the People (Lennon), You're Sixteen (Starr).
I had that song for that part in general, wasn't sure if there was more than one thing going on there.man running the hammer game -
Maxwell's Silver Hammer
That duck with the bag is killing me. It has to be something, right?I had that song for that part in general, wasn't sure if there was more than one thing going on there.
Good call on the other two, though so that's 38.
And Your Bird Can Swim?That duck with the bag is killing me. It has to be something, right?
ETA: "You Won't See Me"? Seems possible but lame.
It may not be a bag. It may be a mask - which doesn’t help any for me.That duck with the bag is killing me. It has to be something, right?
ETA: "You Won't See Me"? Seems possible but lame.
SpliffNotes, por favor.Since @Dinsy Ejotuz mentioned his list, I wanted to look back at it. I spy a couple on here that definitely aren't going to be in my discussion, plus a couple more that are iffy.#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)
#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
#6 It Don't Come Easy (Starr [Harrison])
#7 Band on the Run (McCartney)
#8 Jet (McCartney)
#9 Photograph (Starr)
#10 Give Me Love (Harrison)
#11 With a Little Luck (McCartney)
#12 Live and Let Die (McCartney)
#13 Maybe I'm Amazed (McCartney)
#14 Listen to What the Man Says (McCartney)
#15 Stand by Me (Lennon [King])
#16 Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)
#17 Another Day (McCartney)
#18 Happy X-mas (Lennon)
#19 Whatever Gets You Through the Night (Lennon)
#20 Let Em In (McCartney)
#21 Watching the Wheels (Lennon)
#22 Starting Over (Lennon)
#23 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (McCartney)
#24 Woman (Lennon)
#25 #9 Dream (Lennon)
First, thanks to Krista for inspiring this. I'd been thinking about it for a while and she motivated me to pull it together. (NO idea how you could do this with 200+ songs -- I struggled a ton sorting out the middle ten here.)
Notes:
--It would be impossible for this list to be any more subjective. It's my favorites, not "best".
--Cheated with one cover, but Lennon's version of Stand By Me is a great song and a lot better than the other contenders I had at #25.
--Was pleasantly surprised my Top-10 was more balanced than I expected -- Lennon had two of my top four. But then nothing again until #15. I just like McCartney's songs better on average.
--Harrison killed it at #1, #3, #6?, and #10.
--Both of Ringo's were in the top 10 too, but one of those is actually a Harrison tune (It Don't Come Easy).
--If anyone ever asks you which solo song is most like the Beatles -- you can suggest "Another Day". Not sure which album I'd drop it onto, but it'd fit somewhere.
--Other considered, but cut: Crackerbox Palace, All Those Years Ago, Isn't It a Pity (Harrison), Hi Hi Hi, My Love, Coming Up, Junior's Farm, 1985 (McCartney), Working Class Hero, Power to the People (Lennon), You're Sixteen (Starr).
Should I start a new thread when we get to this, or keep it in here? I think I'll have a couple of contests for charity again as well - suggestions welcome.
A few random thoughts I didn't have when I put this together:#1 My Sweet Lord (Harrison)
#2 Instant Karma (Lennon)
#3 What is Life (Harrison)
#4 Imagine (Lennon)
#5 Silly Love Songs (McCartney)
Love this. Don't want to say much more until I get to my rankings, but happy to read your thoughts on your faves.A few random thoughts I didn't have when I put this together:
My Sweet Lord my be my favorite song, period. Crazy to try and pick one, but combining a song I love so much as a song with such a pure hymn of praise makes it hard to top. It's every bit as powerful as the Hallelujah Chorus and more universal.
And the top five songs up there are: a hymn of praise; a call to be fully human, to grow, to shine; a simple, positive song of love; a song yearning for peace; and a joyful love song he won't hold in, he can't hold in, he doesn't even think he should try to hold in.
I don't understand the post. Helen Wheels is one of my all-time favorite songs about a Land Rover, though.Mister CIA said:
The Mallard of John and Yoko?And Your Bird Can Swim?
I'll see myself out
All Things Must Pass is better than a handful of Beatles albums imo. Imagine is better than at least a few as well. The later you go the worse it gets of course (although I do love Double Fantasy) but that would have likely been true even if the Beatles managed to stay together.I’m sure that this has been said, but ranking of post-Beatles work mostly makes me appreciate how great they were together and how they made each other better. I can’t think of a single post-Fab Four work that rates above “a pretty good Beatles song.”
Having just completed my active listening of Paul’s 80s works, I couldn’t agree more. And he put out a lot in the 80s, too. There are two albums that might have zero songs that make my discussion list.All Things Must Pass is better than a handful of Beatles albums imo. Imagine is better than at least a few as well. The later you go the worse it gets of course (although I do love Double Fantasy) but that would have likely been true even if the Beatles managed to stay together.
Paul has put out some truly awful stuff (with only rare occasions of brilliance) from 1980 on.
Tom: Nobody loves Ringo Starr.I AM NOT RANKING ALL THE SONGS. Did you know, for instance, that Ringo has 20 post-Beatles solo albums? Ringo.
Couldn't agree more. I'm picturing a thread like the one where Shuke ranks things, except @krista4 asks for Mr. K's opinion about random things and transcribes the stream of consciousness replies.Lol. Amazing. I read the entire rant to Mrs APK and she was. Seriously, that whole thing was amazing. Mr Krista deserves a reality show or something. America needs to hear his voice, with you as a partial filter.
Exactly. Imagine just feeding him questions every day.Couldn't agree more. I'm picturing a thread like the one where Shuke ranks things, except @krista4 asks for Mr. K's opinion about random things and transcribes the stream of consciousness replies.![]()
Oh yeah, the latter would probably be a long rant.Exactly. Imagine just feeding him questions every day.
”what’s your least favorite fashion trend of the last 5 years?”
”what do you think of artichoke dip?”
This is awesome!Hey iFriends! A month or so ago, I was putting together my 2020 rankings and realized that, since I cared very little about them, I couldn't expect anyone else to care either. I'm nixing that idea.
I had, however, previously mentioned a Part II to my 2020 Beatles-related plans, and you guys sussed out the general idea, which is to rank post-Beatles works of the Fab Four. I AM NOT RANKING ALL THE SONGS. Did you know, for instance, that Ringo has 20 post-Beatles solo albums? Ringo. So it's going to be a while before I get to this, as while I won't rank all the songs, I am listening to them all with "new ears" for purposes of this project.
My initial thought had been to tie the rankings in with the Beatles song rankings (I had a plan), but I've put that aside. I'll be ranking and discussing only the songs I like the most, with a twist. In addition to the discussion of my favorites, I'll be interspersing some of thread-favorite Mr. krista's rants about songs that won't be making the list. Here's a sample - I don't think I'd need to tell you which song this is:
"So strange that the nadirs of two brilliant artists were achieved in the exact same song. Brilliant songwriters, brilliant musicians, responsible for my favorite music ever. A song so forced, so contrived, a metaphor so obvious and lame and WRONG, JUST WRONG. The black keys are not in harmony with the white keys. That’s the point of them! They’re dissonant; they’re in harmony with each other. And there are like four times as many white keys as black keys. They’re larger and dominant. It’s so wrong. Stevie Wonder did a pretty good job exploring race in contemporary America, and Paul McCartney is not a racist, but we’re gonna cash in on the fact that we’re a white guy and a black guy. That’s the thing about you guys? Forget all the corny 80s oo-laa, the cheeseball instrumentation and the lite FM garbage. It’s just hopelessly naïve and wrong. It’s the 80s - a pogrom on black America and urban America - and we have this ####. I think that song would be better if Stevie Wonder just decided to cut Paul McCartney in it. Get him before they get us all, and thwack. I hate that song so much. How he went from that John Lennon song (Editor's note: "Here Today") earlier that I loved so much to this…I hate this almost as much as I loved the song I liked. The Beatles basically integrated concerts in the south of the US, so it’s not like he’s ignorant of what went on here…but why can’t we live together like these keys on a piano? Wtf? Are you that far removed from…JFC. Stevie, what are you ####### thinking, man? That drives me ####### nuts. That song is basically the Democratic party, right there. So well-intentioned, so feckless, so wrong. It’s like Jesse Helms says Jews are genetically sneaky and black people shouldn’t have the right to buy meat on Wednesdays, and Paul McCartney is like “hey, ebony and ivory, man, why can’t we all get along?” Bland music to let everyone feel good about “right thinking.” "I can’t be a racist; I would also like to get along with Stevie Wonder." I’m sorry, that song makes me want to overthrow governments."
Lol. That was just one question, top of mind, knowing he’s a chef. Haha. I can find 50 more questions like that......Oh yeah, the latter would probably be a long rant.
This thread is an institution and its yours so you do what you really want to with it but you did say that Ringo had something like 20 albums which is too much Ringo for anyone.krista4 said:Is it something you guys would still wish to read, knowing that? If so, I'll still go through the rest of the stuff and compile rankings. Or I could do a more limited ranking of just Paul's post-Beatles output. What do you all think?
I said "noted" to try to give you some cred for it! If I said "noted Beatle-meh-guy" it wouldn't have the same effect.@krista4 - I accept the challenge, and I will do that in the next few days.
"Beatle-hater" is a bit strong though, or is that just backlash for me leaving a mess on your island?
Lol. Fair enough.I said "noted" to try to give you some cred for it! If I said "noted Beatle-meh-guy" it wouldn't have the same effect.
Well, and I wouldn’t want to embarrass you like that.Lol. Fair enough.
I guess "thinks they're OK, but would rather listen to an album from The Who, Stones, Neil Young, Jimi, Floyd, Zeppelin, CCR, or about 15 other bands before them" is a bit too long to type out each time.![]()