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In this thread I rank my favorite Beatles songs: 204-1. (2 Viewers)
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krista4
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Hey iFriends! A month or so ago, I was putting together my 2020 rankings and realized that, since I cared very little about them, I couldn't expect anyone else to care either. I'm nixing that idea.
I had, however, previously mentioned a Part II to my 2020 Beatles-related plans, and you guys sussed out the general idea, which is to rank post-Beatles works of the Fab Four. I AM NOT RANKING ALL THE SONGS. Did you know, for instance, that Ringo has 20 post-Beatles solo albums? Ringo. So it's going to be a while before I get to this, as while I won't rank all the songs, I am listening to them all with "new ears" for purposes of this project.
My initial thought had been to tie the rankings in with the Beatles song rankings (I had a plan), but I've put that aside. I'll be ranking and discussing only the songs I like the most, with a twist. In addition to the discussion of my favorites, I'll be interspersing some of thread-favorite Mr. krista's rants about songs that won't be making the list. Here's a sample - I don't think I'd need to tell you which song this is:
"So strange that the nadirs of two brilliant artists were achieved in the exact same song. Brilliant songwriters, brilliant musicians, responsible for my favorite music ever. A song so forced, so contrived, a metaphor so obvious and lame and WRONG, JUST WRONG. The black keys are not in harmony with the white keys. That’s the point of them! They’re dissonant; they’re in harmony with each other. And there are like four times as many white keys as black keys. They’re larger and dominant. It’s so wrong. Stevie Wonder did a pretty good job exploring race in contemporary America, and Paul McCartney is not a racist, but we’re gonna cash in on the fact that we’re a white guy and a black guy. That’s the thing about you guys? Forget all the corny 80s oo-laa, the cheeseball instrumentation and the lite FM garbage. It’s just hopelessly naïve and wrong. It’s the 80s - a pogrom on black America and urban America - and we have this ####. I think that song would be better if Stevie Wonder just decided to cut Paul McCartney in it. Get him before they get us all, and thwack. I hate that song so much. How he went from that John Lennon song (Editor's note: "Here Today") earlier that I loved so much to this…I hate this almost as much as I loved the song I liked. The Beatles basically integrated concerts in the south of the US, so it’s not like he’s ignorant of what went on here…but why can’t we live together like these keys on a piano? Wtf? Are you that far removed from…JFC. Stevie, what are you ####### thinking, man? That drives me ####### nuts. That song is basically the Democratic party, right there. So well-intentioned, so feckless, so wrong. It’s like Jesse Helms says Jews are genetically sneaky and black people shouldn’t have the right to buy meat on Wednesdays, and Paul McCartney is like “hey, ebony and ivory, man, why can’t we all get along?” Bland music to let everyone feel good about “right thinking.” "I can’t be a racist; I would also like to get along with Stevie Wonder." I’m sorry, that song makes me want to overthrow governments."
I had, however, previously mentioned a Part II to my 2020 Beatles-related plans, and you guys sussed out the general idea, which is to rank post-Beatles works of the Fab Four. I AM NOT RANKING ALL THE SONGS. Did you know, for instance, that Ringo has 20 post-Beatles solo albums? Ringo. So it's going to be a while before I get to this, as while I won't rank all the songs, I am listening to them all with "new ears" for purposes of this project.
My initial thought had been to tie the rankings in with the Beatles song rankings (I had a plan), but I've put that aside. I'll be ranking and discussing only the songs I like the most, with a twist. In addition to the discussion of my favorites, I'll be interspersing some of thread-favorite Mr. krista's rants about songs that won't be making the list. Here's a sample - I don't think I'd need to tell you which song this is:
"So strange that the nadirs of two brilliant artists were achieved in the exact same song. Brilliant songwriters, brilliant musicians, responsible for my favorite music ever. A song so forced, so contrived, a metaphor so obvious and lame and WRONG, JUST WRONG. The black keys are not in harmony with the white keys. That’s the point of them! They’re dissonant; they’re in harmony with each other. And there are like four times as many white keys as black keys. They’re larger and dominant. It’s so wrong. Stevie Wonder did a pretty good job exploring race in contemporary America, and Paul McCartney is not a racist, but we’re gonna cash in on the fact that we’re a white guy and a black guy. That’s the thing about you guys? Forget all the corny 80s oo-laa, the cheeseball instrumentation and the lite FM garbage. It’s just hopelessly naïve and wrong. It’s the 80s - a pogrom on black America and urban America - and we have this ####. I think that song would be better if Stevie Wonder just decided to cut Paul McCartney in it. Get him before they get us all, and thwack. I hate that song so much. How he went from that John Lennon song (Editor's note: "Here Today") earlier that I loved so much to this…I hate this almost as much as I loved the song I liked. The Beatles basically integrated concerts in the south of the US, so it’s not like he’s ignorant of what went on here…but why can’t we live together like these keys on a piano? Wtf? Are you that far removed from…JFC. Stevie, what are you ####### thinking, man? That drives me ####### nuts. That song is basically the Democratic party, right there. So well-intentioned, so feckless, so wrong. It’s like Jesse Helms says Jews are genetically sneaky and black people shouldn’t have the right to buy meat on Wednesdays, and Paul McCartney is like “hey, ebony and ivory, man, why can’t we all get along?” Bland music to let everyone feel good about “right thinking.” "I can’t be a racist; I would also like to get along with Stevie Wonder." I’m sorry, that song makes me want to overthrow governments."
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Nipsey
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This band from the Philippines covers Beatles songs. Pretty great. Apologies if it's already been posted here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpRzWk0saA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jpRzWk0saA
Binky The Doormat
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krista4
Footballguy
at the goat.We're covering Pipes of Peace tonight so will be evaluating that gem. We have already covered another MJ duet, "The Girl Is Mine."
rockaction
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Shaft41
Footballguy
I am not nearly as familiar with much of the Fab Four's post-Beatle work as I am with their Beatles catalogue, but I am so in for this. Let's be honest, at this point of stay-at-home Day 2359, Krista could comment on her favorite words contained within a Beatles song, and I'd be right here for it. Plus, Temporary Secretary.
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krista4
Footballguy
Upon close listen, I decided it's not a bad song. Shockingly, even Mr. krista likes it.
Temporary Secretary will be discussed.
That whole McCartney II album is wacky, mostly in a good way. There's another song from it that Mr. krista currently has in his top three of everything we've listened to so far (basically all of 70s/80s McCartney minus Pipes of Peace).
Shaft41
Footballguy
Sweet. I mean, I know the hits, and I've heard some others on The Beatles Channel, although I doubt they get too obscure on deep album cuts. I look forward to being exposed to new stuff.Upon close listen, I decided it's not a bad song. Shockingly, even Mr. krista likes it.
Temporary Secretary will be discussed.
krista4
Footballguy
Speaking of the Beatles Channel, considering I'm in my car so little these days, I've been missing hearing the channel. Yet somehow when I do get to listen, Meg Griffin is always on.
I don't think I'm going to be able to help your quarantine blues with this countdown. It's going to be a while. I'll feel like we've accomplished a lot when we just get through Paul's stuff. Paul and George fans should like this countdown, though, since they'll get most of the focus this time. John didn't live long enough to give me a ton to list, and Ringo is Ringo.
Shaft41
Footballguy
heckmanm
Footballguy
I think I'm up to 36
octopus garden
yellow submarine
fool on the hill
she came in thru the bathroom window
fixing a hole
i am the walrus
maxwell's silver hammer
lovely rita
penny lane
here there and everywhere
piggies
glass onion
dr. robert
back in the ussr? revolution 1? (russians on carousel)
eight days a week
strawberry fields
taxman
norwegian wood
ticket to ride
while my guitar gently weeps
baby you're a rich man
birthday
she's leaving home
twist and shout
hello goodbye
here comes the sun
the long and winding road
her majesty
helter skelter (slide)
blackbird
i'm so tired
carry that weight (guy carrying pipe, picks and shovels)
help (guy drowning in pond)
dig it (guy with shovel NOT fixing a hole)
i'm only sleeping (not dead)
baby's in black
And a few bits of the picture that look like they should mean something but I can't figure out what
puzzled woman next to hammer game
man running the hammer game
flowers with bee & "for rent" sign
black & white kids colliding
duck with a bag on its head
yellow submarine
fool on the hill
she came in thru the bathroom window
fixing a hole
i am the walrus
maxwell's silver hammer
lovely rita
penny lane
here there and everywhere
piggies
glass onion
dr. robert
back in the ussr? revolution 1? (russians on carousel)
eight days a week
strawberry fields
taxman
norwegian wood
ticket to ride
while my guitar gently weeps
baby you're a rich man
birthday
she's leaving home
twist and shout
hello goodbye
here comes the sun
the long and winding road
her majesty
helter skelter (slide)
blackbird
i'm so tired
carry that weight (guy carrying pipe, picks and shovels)
help (guy drowning in pond)
dig it (guy with shovel NOT fixing a hole)
i'm only sleeping (not dead)
baby's in black
And a few bits of the picture that look like they should mean something but I can't figure out what
puzzled woman next to hammer game
man running the hammer game
flowers with bee & "for rent" sign
black & white kids colliding
duck with a bag on its head
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
puzzled woman next to hammer game -
man running the hammer game - Maxwell's Silver Hammer
flowers with bee & "for rent" sign - Let It Bee (let being another word for rent)
black & white kids colliding - Come Together
duck with a bag on its head
man running the hammer game - Maxwell's Silver Hammer
flowers with bee & "for rent" sign - Let It Bee (let being another word for rent)
black & white kids colliding - Come Together
duck with a bag on its head
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Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
2007 PM solo is about as new and semi obscure as I can come up with for this thread.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bH1lTZtBW_U
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Ha -- I just looked up my own post-breakup top-25 "Beatles" songs in this thread a couple days ago.
Was talking to Mrs. Dinsy about it not too long ago and those songs are basically the soundtrack of my kid years. I remember my whole childhood there was a wistfulness about the breakup and hope that they'd get back together.
Was talking to Mrs. Dinsy about it not too long ago and those songs are basically the soundtrack of my kid years. I remember my whole childhood there was a wistfulness about the breakup and hope that they'd get back together.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Lol. Amazing. I read the entire rant to Mrs APK and she was
. Seriously, that whole thing was amazing. Mr Krista deserves a reality show or something. America needs to hear his voice, with you as a partial filter.
krista4
Footballguy
Since @Dinsy Ejotuz mentioned his list, I wanted to look back at it. I spy a couple on here that definitely aren't going to be in my discussion, plus a couple more that are iffy.
Should I start a new thread when we get to this, or keep it in here? I think I'll have a couple of contests for charity again as well - suggestions welcome.
heckmanm
Footballguy
I had that song for that part in general, wasn't sure if there was more than one thing going on there.
Good call on the other two, though so that's 38.
krista4
Footballguy
That duck with the bag is killing me. It has to be something, right?
ETA: "You Won't See Me"? Seems possible but lame.
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heckmanm
Footballguy
I'll see myself out
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Mister CIA
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I think it's a balloon that she's about to pop, while the other kid is looking up wondering where it went. No idea what song...
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
A few random thoughts I didn't have when I put this together:
My Sweet Lord may be my favorite song, period. Crazy to try and pick one, but combining a song I love so much as a song with such a pure hymn of praise makes it hard to top. It's every bit as powerful as the Hallelujah Chorus and more universal.
And the top five songs up there are: a hymn of praise; a call to be fully human, to grow, to shine; a simple, positive song of love; a song yearning for peace; and a joyful love song he won't hold in, he can't hold in, he doesn't even think he should try to hold in.
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krista4
Footballguy
Love this. Don't want to say much more until I get to my rankings, but happy to read your thoughts on your faves.
Rustoleum
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
All Things Must Pass is better than a handful of Beatles albums imo. Imagine is better than at least a few as well. The later you go the worse it gets of course (although I do love Double Fantasy) but that would have likely been true even if the Beatles managed to stay together.
Paul has put out some truly awful stuff (with only rare occasions of brilliance) from 1980 on.
krista4
Footballguy
Having just completed my active listening of Paul’s 80s works, I couldn’t agree more. And he put out a lot in the 80s, too. There are two albums that might have zero songs that make my discussion list.
Agree regarding All Things Must Pass as well.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Tom Hagen
Footballguy
Couldn't agree more. I'm picturing a thread like the one where Shuke ranks things, except @krista4 asks for Mr. K's opinion about random things and transcribes the stream of consciousness replies.Lol. Amazing. I read the entire rant to Mrs APK and she was
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Exactly. Imagine just feeding him questions every day.Couldn't agree more. I'm picturing a thread like the one where Shuke ranks things, except @krista4 asks for Mr. K's opinion about random things and transcribes the stream of consciousness replies.
”what’s your least favorite fashion trend of the last 5 years?”
”what do you think of artichoke dip?”
krista4
Footballguy
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
it! Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Lol. That was just one question, top of mind, knowing he’s a chef. Haha. I can find 50 more questions like that......
Edit to add: can you please ask him the artichoke dip question?
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krista4
Footballguy
IT'S A TRIPLE BEATLE!!!
OK, on Tuesday, I had my second triple Beatle!!!!1111. On Classic Vinyl, George Harrison's "Give Me Love" was playing, while at the same time the Beatles channel had George Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity" and Underground Garage was playing "I'm a Loser." It's only my second triple-Beatle of all time, so quite special.
But that's not why I'm bumping the thread (though it would be a worthwhile bump, obv). First, I wanted to give news from a week or two ago in case anyone missed it, which is that the release of Peter Jackson's documentary "Get Back," based on the Let It Be sessions, has been delayed from September 2020 to August 2021.
The other item I wanted to mention is that, as most of you know, Mr. krista is now ex-Mr. krista, which changes my thinking and plans on my big countdown of the Beatles' solo works. He and I had gotten through almost all of Paul's records, but no one else's, and it might be harder to convince him now to finish the project since it was not something he loved as much as I did.
So...I can still do the countdown, but we'll have a more limited input from fan-favorite ex-Mr. krista. Is it something you guys would still wish to read, knowing that? If so, I'll still go through the rest of the stuff and compile rankings. Or I could do a more limited ranking of just Paul's post-Beatles output. What do you all think?
OK, on Tuesday, I had my second triple Beatle!!!!1111. On Classic Vinyl, George Harrison's "Give Me Love" was playing, while at the same time the Beatles channel had George Harrison's "Isn't It a Pity" and Underground Garage was playing "I'm a Loser." It's only my second triple-Beatle of all time, so quite special.
But that's not why I'm bumping the thread (though it would be a worthwhile bump, obv). First, I wanted to give news from a week or two ago in case anyone missed it, which is that the release of Peter Jackson's documentary "Get Back," based on the Let It Be sessions, has been delayed from September 2020 to August 2021.
The other item I wanted to mention is that, as most of you know, Mr. krista is now ex-Mr. krista, which changes my thinking and plans on my big countdown of the Beatles' solo works. He and I had gotten through almost all of Paul's records, but no one else's, and it might be harder to convince him now to finish the project since it was not something he loved as much as I did.
So...I can still do the countdown, but we'll have a more limited input from fan-favorite ex-Mr. krista. Is it something you guys would still wish to read, knowing that? If so, I'll still go through the rest of the stuff and compile rankings. Or I could do a more limited ranking of just Paul's post-Beatles output. What do you all think?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I’d be interested in the Countdown either way.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
This thread is an institution and its yours so you do what you really want to with it but you did say that Ringo had something like 20 albums which is too much Ringo for anyone.krista4 said:
I remember when I got out of college and felt I had to read everything that I wasn't able to and some of it was really dry. I heard an interview with a famous writer when asked about his reading list he said something that stuck with me. He said 'I don't feel the need to finish everything on my plate.' It was freeing to me and I chopped down my reading list to what I really liked.
Its not up to us or some omnipotent judge. Do the material that you like/want to cover rather than thinking you have to cover everything.
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krista4
Footballguy
Thanks for the feedback; I realized later it read like a desire for "atta girls," which wasn't the intention, but I appreciate the kindness and feedback.
More importantly...I was traveling back from seeing friends tonight, and for reasons unimportant my commute back was over two hours, during which I listened to nothing except the Abbey Road medley. Mostly I just rewound (or whatever one does these days) to the beginning of Polythene Pam, or occasionally back to Mean Mr. Mustard, and then forward. Sometimes I stopped after She Came In Through the Bathroom Window, since those of you who read my write-ups (?) know that Polythene Pam and Bathroom Window were my 1a and 1b for the medley. Sometimes I listened further before rewinding again.
But here are the two important takeaways from over two hours of repeated listening! First, the bass playing on She Came In Through the Bathroom Window is more amazing than I ever remembered. I think I've always been so focused on that great guitar line, and of course Ringo, that I didn't notice. Especially starting in the second verse. Holy ####### ####.
Second, although everyone says Day In The Life is their masterpiece, I think this actually is instead. I'd challenge anyone to listen to this medley and find a better piece of rock-n-roll in history. Specifically, I want to ask noted Beatle-hater @KarmaPolice to load the medley into his fancy new headphones and give it a whirl from start to finish. Since you are a noted Beatle-hater, I'll let you know what I'm saying: start with "You Never Give Me Your Money" on Abbey Road and listen through "The End." Then if you are still a noted (or unnoticed) Beatle-hater, I'll give up on you. But listen to this first, fully and in order, and fully and in order again.*
*Sun King is a little struggle for me, but the Polythene Pam into She Came In Through The Bathroom Window bit is the best of the best. OH LOOK OUT!
ETA: Seeing friends again for the first time since January, and with masks and social distancing despite their repeated attempts to hug me.
More importantly...I was traveling back from seeing friends tonight, and for reasons unimportant my commute back was over two hours, during which I listened to nothing except the Abbey Road medley. Mostly I just rewound (or whatever one does these days) to the beginning of Polythene Pam, or occasionally back to Mean Mr. Mustard, and then forward. Sometimes I stopped after She Came In Through the Bathroom Window, since those of you who read my write-ups (?) know that Polythene Pam and Bathroom Window were my 1a and 1b for the medley. Sometimes I listened further before rewinding again.
But here are the two important takeaways from over two hours of repeated listening! First, the bass playing on She Came In Through the Bathroom Window is more amazing than I ever remembered. I think I've always been so focused on that great guitar line, and of course Ringo, that I didn't notice. Especially starting in the second verse. Holy ####### ####.
Second, although everyone says Day In The Life is their masterpiece, I think this actually is instead. I'd challenge anyone to listen to this medley and find a better piece of rock-n-roll in history. Specifically, I want to ask noted Beatle-hater @KarmaPolice to load the medley into his fancy new headphones and give it a whirl from start to finish. Since you are a noted Beatle-hater, I'll let you know what I'm saying: start with "You Never Give Me Your Money" on Abbey Road and listen through "The End." Then if you are still a noted (or unnoticed) Beatle-hater, I'll give up on you. But listen to this first, fully and in order, and fully and in order again.*
*Sun King is a little struggle for me, but the Polythene Pam into She Came In Through The Bathroom Window bit is the best of the best. OH LOOK OUT!
ETA: Seeing friends again for the first time since January, and with masks and social distancing despite their repeated attempts to hug me.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
krista4
Footballguy
I said "noted" to try to give you some cred for it! If I said "noted Beatle-meh-guy" it wouldn't have the same effect.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Lol. Fair enough.
I guess "thinks they're OK, but would rather listen to an album from The Who, Stones, Neil Young, Jimi, Floyd, Zeppelin, CCR, or about 15 other bands before them" is a bit too long to type out each time.
krista4
Footballguy
Well, and I wouldn’t want to embarrass you like that.Lol. Fair enough.
I guess "thinks they're OK, but would rather listen to an album from The Who, Stones, Neil Young, Jimi, Floyd, Zeppelin, CCR, or about 15 other bands before them" is a bit too long to type out each time.
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