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I'm curious what the Patriots travel plans are, and whether they are being impacted by the expected weather out east. Is their any anticipated effect on their practice schedule?

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I'm curious what the Patriots travel plans are, and whether they are being impacted by the expected weather out east. Is their any anticipated effect on their practice schedule?
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Patriots are going out a day early. Honestly I've never understood why teams don't do that anyways when they're going to Denver to get better acclimated to the altitude.
 
bostonfred said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I'm curious what the Patriots travel plans are, and whether they are being impacted by the expected weather out east. Is their any anticipated effect on their practice schedule?
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Patriots are going out a day early. Honestly I've never understood why teams don't do that anyways when they're going to Denver to get better acclimated to the altitude.
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In reality, for athletic performance, it takes weeks to acclimate to high altitude.

 
bostonfred said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I'm curious what the Patriots travel plans are, and whether they are being impacted by the expected weather out east. Is their any anticipated effect on their practice schedule?
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Patriots are going out a day early. Honestly I've never understood why teams don't do that anyways when they're going to Denver to get better acclimated to the altitude.
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You cannot acclimate that fast, not at all.

As for the altitude, it effects kicks, some. It has little to no effect on performance in nonaerobic sports, not at this altitude. Up in the hills, above tree line, the effect is noticeable, at Denver's altitude its effect is psychological unless distance running, swimming or biking.

Now the dehydration out here can effect athletes adversely.

 
I'm not a fan of the Patriots but I do hope their preparation will not be too disrupted by weather. I want to see each team at the best it can be this time of year, subject to the injuries they can do nothing about at this juncture.

Here's to a safe trip without added complications.

 
Saying the effect is psychological kind of trivializes it. You have to adjust. You might not have time to physically adjust but I'll gladly take an extra day to get used to the effect on my body so I know what to expect on game day. It's still humans doing new things. Experience helps.

 
If you're anything like me, and I hope you aren't, you spend a lot of time in the trash talk threads on /r/nfl.

Sometimes you come across a post you wish everyone had seen, this is that post.

You know what? I'm getting real sick of all your ####, /r/nfl. "Oooh, I really want Peyton Manning to have a storybook ending to his career." "Uh oh, looks like I'm cheering for the Rest-of-America Not-the-Patriots again this year." "They can't keep getting away with it!" You know what, /r/nfl. Go tuck yourselves in, because I'm about to tear into your quivering #######s here.

Every year, we have to put up with wave after wave of bull#### about how awful all our success is. How having the greatest QB ever makes us vile scum, and how by even being a fan, we are on par ethically with the Galactic Empire and Count Dracula. Well, guess what? You want us to be evil? You want us to be the villain? #### it, we'll be evil - we'll be your villain. Just remember two ####### things. You made us this way, and second, this isn't fantasy - this is the grim dark reality of every day life.

You want Peyton to have a storybook finale? Guess what - his stroybook is a ####### Shakespearean tragedy. " Chicken Parm, I've come undone " It's a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody ending. A sad old man, past his prime, being undone once again by the younger, smarter, handsomer, stronger man that outdoes him in everything, as he always has. And his sad, pick-6 riddled performance will be the thing everyone remembers him for.

Then, you'll wake up on Monday morning. You'll get up to the annoying, awful buzz of your insufferable alarm clock, and still somehow manage to get to work and be 5 minutes late. Your irritating idiot of a boss will chide you for it, before you begin another miserable eight and a half hour day in your tedious, boring, ####ty job that you have no chance of escaping from for the rest of your life.

You'll look around you and watch as you grow older, your friends aging and dying, as you settle in your marriage, #### out a pair of irritating, mediocre children, and slave your way through the sad, used-sofa experience that is the American middle class. You'll watch friends and family members fail to hang on, falling to alcohol, drugs, and desperation. You'll witness the death of every childhood dream you ever had and held dear. All those hopes and goals you had for yourself, withering away on the ditch on the side of your dilapidated road of life.

You'll look around you as your drinking water becomes more polluted, your city infrastructure crumbles, your country in permanent decline. You'll realize that you're living in an unending nightmarish corporate dystopia, where every second of your life in controlled and structured just to keep you as a passive slave consumer. You'll wonder just what happened as President Trump is sworn in, and suddenly corporations have the right to own slaves and your social security is replaced with powerball lotteries. You'll cry a little when you're digital identity and financial history are now recorded by your DNA, making your ever-growing debts permanent and inescapable. You'll even struggle to remember the number of the barcode branded into the back of your skull.

Try to escape, by looking at the big picture, but that's where you'll come to realize that mankind is a failed and doomed species. You'll finally realize, too late, that the all the environmental damage to our planet is too severe, and that our existence is limited and finite. You'll realize that your dreams of Star Trek and space travel will never come to pass. You'll watch the planet slowly transform into a Mad Max/Cormac McCarthy hellscape, as wildlife dies out, plants and trees wither away, and biker gangs murdering for fuel and food are the only remaining institutions.

. . . I'm not done! You'll finally recognize that humanity is trapped on a bleak, dying planet, in a vast, cold, uncaring cosmos. A universe that doesn't care about you, and never wanted you in the first place. Alone in an empty, desolate universe. No aliens or wonder, just cold mechanical movements of atoms, and one irritating error resulting in intelligent life - a mistake that will quickly auto-correct itself out of existence. And even that harsh reality is made more miserable by the fact that everything everywhere is expanding towards an unstoppable heat death, from which there can be no escape - simply the end of all things, even time, forever.

On Monday morning, as you travel to your insufferable work, with these toxic thoughts weighing heavily on your mind, you'll suddenly realize that the worst part - of all of it - of everything I just said - is that the New England Patriots are going back to the Super Bowl. This isn't your Disney fairy tale, this is the grim inescapable reality of your bleak and horrible existence.

When asked about what the future would be like, George Orwell responded, "Imagine a boot, smashing in a man's face, forever." The boot smashing in the faces forever? It's Tom Brady's Ugg. We're on to Super Bowl 50.
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Run It Up said:
If you're anything like me, and I hope you aren't, you spend a lot of time in the trash talk threads on /r/nfl.

Sometimes you come across a post you wish everyone had seen, this is that post.

You know what? I'm getting real sick of all your ####, /r/nfl. "Oooh, I really want Peyton Manning to have a storybook ending to his career." "Uh oh, looks like I'm cheering for the Rest-of-America Not-the-Patriots again this year." "They can't keep getting away with it!" You know what, /r/nfl. Go tuck yourselves in, because I'm about to tear into your quivering #######s here.

Every year, we have to put up with wave after wave of bull#### about how awful all our success is. How having the greatest QB ever makes us vile scum, and how by even being a fan, we are on par ethically with the Galactic Empire and Count Dracula. Well, guess what? You want us to be evil? You want us to be the villain? #### it, we'll be evil - we'll be your villain. Just remember two ####### things. You made us this way, and second, this isn't fantasy - this is the grim dark reality of every day life.

You want Peyton to have a storybook finale? Guess what - his stroybook is a ####### Shakespearean tragedy. " Chicken Parm, I've come undone " It's a grim bloody fable, with an unhappy bloody ending. A sad old man, past his prime, being undone once again by the younger, smarter, handsomer, stronger man that outdoes him in everything, as he always has. And his sad, pick-6 riddled performance will be the thing everyone remembers him for.

Then, you'll wake up on Monday morning. You'll get up to the annoying, awful buzz of your insufferable alarm clock, and still somehow manage to get to work and be 5 minutes late. Your irritating idiot of a boss will chide you for it, before you begin another miserable eight and a half hour day in your tedious, boring, ####ty job that you have no chance of escaping from for the rest of your life.

You'll look around you and watch as you grow older, your friends aging and dying, as you settle in your marriage, #### out a pair of irritating, mediocre children, and slave your way through the sad, used-sofa experience that is the American middle class. You'll watch friends and family members fail to hang on, falling to alcohol, drugs, and desperation. You'll witness the death of every childhood dream you ever had and held dear. All those hopes and goals you had for yourself, withering away on the ditch on the side of your dilapidated road of life.

You'll look around you as your drinking water becomes more polluted, your city infrastructure crumbles, your country in permanent decline. You'll realize that you're living in an unending nightmarish corporate dystopia, where every second of your life in controlled and structured just to keep you as a passive slave consumer. You'll wonder just what happened as President Trump is sworn in, and suddenly corporations have the right to own slaves and your social security is replaced with powerball lotteries. You'll cry a little when you're digital identity and financial history are now recorded by your DNA, making your ever-growing debts permanent and inescapable. You'll even struggle to remember the number of the barcode branded into the back of your skull.

Try to escape, by looking at the big picture, but that's where you'll come to realize that mankind is a failed and doomed species. You'll finally realize, too late, that the all the environmental damage to our planet is too severe, and that our existence is limited and finite. You'll realize that your dreams of Star Trek and space travel will never come to pass. You'll watch the planet slowly transform into a Mad Max/Cormac McCarthy hellscape, as wildlife dies out, plants and trees wither away, and biker gangs murdering for fuel and food are the only remaining institutions.

. . . I'm not done! You'll finally recognize that humanity is trapped on a bleak, dying planet, in a vast, cold, uncaring cosmos. A universe that doesn't care about you, and never wanted you in the first place. Alone in an empty, desolate universe. No aliens or wonder, just cold mechanical movements of atoms, and one irritating error resulting in intelligent life - a mistake that will quickly auto-correct itself out of existence. And even that harsh reality is made more miserable by the fact that everything everywhere is expanding towards an unstoppable heat death, from which there can be no escape - simply the end of all things, even time, forever.

On Monday morning, as you travel to your insufferable work, with these toxic thoughts weighing heavily on your mind, you'll suddenly realize that the worst part - of all of it - of everything I just said - is that the New England Patriots are going back to the Super Bowl. This isn't your Disney fairy tale, this is the grim inescapable reality of your bleak and horrible existence.

When asked about what the future would be like, George Orwell responded, "Imagine a boot, smashing in a man's face, forever." The boot smashing in the faces forever? It's Tom Brady's Ugg. We're on to Super Bowl 50.
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I saw this yesterday myself. All I could think of was JIslander! :lol:

 
I heard that a number of Patriots fans have had to sell thier game tickets since they are having travel difficulties. I wondered about that. How can thier tickets get to Denver and them not, are NFL tickets now e-tickets, or did I just listen to an uninformed drunk?

 
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I heard that a number of Patriots fans have had to sell thier game tickets since they are having travel difficulties. I wondered about that. How can thier tickets get to Denver and them not, are NFL tickets now e-tickets, or did I just listen to an uninformed drunk?
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All Bronco playoff tickets this year were e-tickets - no paper tickets were printed.

Despite all of my Patriot trolling, I do respect the hell out of your guys team. I am ashamed to admit that I sold my tickets to today's game to a Patriot fan. I just started a new job and can't take time off to fly into Denver, so I sold them to an old friend who happens to be a big Pats fan. He is already in Denver, and will be going to the game with a Jets fan.

I wish for full health for both teams, and a fairly officiated game. I'm not gonna wish lick because I think we need it more, but good health!

 
moleculo said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I heard that a number of Patriots fans have had to sell thier game tickets since they are having travel difficulties. I wondered about that. How can thier tickets get to Denver and them not, are NFL tickets now e-tickets, or did I just listen to an uninformed drunk?
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All Bronco playoff tickets this year were e-tickets - no paper tickets were printed.

Despite all of my Patriot trolling, I do respect the hell out of your guys team. I am ashamed to admit that I sold my tickets to today's game to a Patriot fan. I just started a new job and can't take time off to fly into Denver, so I sold them to an old friend who happens to be a big Pats fan. He is already in Denver, and will be going to the game with a Jets fan.

I wish for full health for both teams, and a fairly officiated game. I'm not gonna wish lick because I think we need it more, but good health!
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???

;)

 
msommer said:
moleculo said:
Ditkaless Wonders said:
I heard that a number of Patriots fans have had to sell thier game tickets since they are having travel difficulties. I wondered about that. How can thier tickets get to Denver and them not, are NFL tickets now e-tickets, or did I just listen to an uninformed drunk?
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All Bronco playoff tickets this year were e-tickets - no paper tickets were printed.Despite all of my Patriot trolling, I do respect the hell out of your guys team. I am ashamed to admit that I sold my tickets to today's game to a Patriot fan. I just started a new job and can't take time off to fly into Denver, so I sold them to an old friend who happens to be a big Pats fan. He is already in Denver, and will be going to the game with a Jets fan.

I wish for full health for both teams, and a fairly officiated game. I'm not gonna wish lick because I think we need it more, but good health!
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??? ;)
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Stupid fat fingers. I'm gonna leave it like that though b/c I'm not wishing you lick either.
 
Run It Up said:
This was one of those games where you wonder how the #### McDaniels has a job.
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Not his fault. Last weeks win gave everyone a false sense of hope. There o-line has been a sieve all year. Give credit to the denver defense. Thats what won the game for them.

 
Cannon having a rough game was no surprise. Vollmer was having a "Logan Mankins in Superbowls" nightmare. Once the three man rush showed it was working, Brady was in big trouble.

 
It was a good run. Another afccg, another good game even in a loss. 20 years ago id have been in mourning. Now it's just the end of another good but not perfect season from a team that's been so good to us we have no right to complain. Nice work by Brady getting them as close as they got, nice work by the Broncos earning the win.

 
Despite the bad November losses to Denver and Philly, Oakland beating Denver pretty much put HFA right in New England's hands. They fumbled it away against the Jets and Dolphins. I think that cost them a trip to the SB as #### always seems to unravel in Denver.

 
Brady was hit 20 times this game. The most this year by anyone in a game.

It was a carousel unit for sure, can't expect a ton of cohesion - but any would have been nice.

I give Denver all the credit their defense played an amazing game. But Belichicks decision to go for it down 8 with 7 to go and McDaniels play calling was terrible.

 
Shhhh.quiet in here...like a library.what happened??

Oh wait..NE cant win a road playoff game hqvent since '06 , because BB is NOT the greatest thing since sliced bread

Hmm

But we knew that already didnt we??

Pats are pretenders

.plain and simple.if they dont host the AFCC they do NOT win.period.

Overrated fluff.

Nothing to see here

 
BusterTBronco said:
Well, Pats fans, you talked a lot of trash before this game. You said your team was finally healthy and was 7 points better than the Broncos. I guess not.
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Congratulations ####lord. Enjoy bragging about your consulation 2nd place finish?

 
Tanner9919 said:
Shhhh.quiet in here...like a library.what happened??

Oh wait..NE cant win a road playoff game hqvent since '06 , because BB is NOT the greatest thing since sliced bread

Hmm

But we knew that already didnt we??

Pats are pretenders

.plain and simple.if they dont host the AFCC they do NOT win.period.

Overrated fluff.

Nothing to see here
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Lol that salt :lol:

I'd be jealous of all the success they've had over the last 20 years too if I wasn't a homer :lmao:

Pretenders totally go to the AFC Championship game 5 years in a row, not to mention the 3 Super Bowl appearances and one Super Bowl win over the past 8 seasons. There hasn't been a team in the league over the past 15 years that's been as consistent as the Patriots.

 
BusterTBronco said:
Run It Up said:
BusterTBronco said:
Well, Pats fans, you talked a lot of trash before this game. You said your team was finally healthy and was 7 points better than the Broncos. I guess not.
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Congratulations ####lord. Enjoy bragging about your consulation 2nd place finish?
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Broncos 2-0 vs the Pats this year. Sorry your horses ### of a team can't win at Mile High.
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Can't wait to see you disappear and hide for a year once the Donkeys get crushed and embarrassed in yet another Super Bowl :lol:

 
Run It Up said:
Brady was hit 20 times this game. The most this year by anyone in a game.

It was a carousel unit for sure, can't expect a ton of cohesion - but any would have been nice.

I give Denver all the credit their defense played an amazing game. But Belichicks decision to go for it down 8 with 7 to go and McDaniels play calling was terrible.
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Love Bill, but if we kick all three times, we win.

ETA: Stupid question: was BB mad at the Ghost for missing the xp?

 
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*When Josh McDaniels has a bad day it is horrific...knew they were in trouble early...the play-calling played to the strength of the defense...reminded me of the first Super Bowl loss to the Giants...

*Brady took an absolute beating...Von Miller could have been arrested for the damage he did to the Pats today...

*Harper fumbling...losing at home to a bad Philly team...losing to two non-playoff teams in the Jets and Miami...win one of these games and the game is in Foxboro instead of Denver which has always been a house of horrors for this franchise...they have no one to blame but themselves for this...

*The D did what it needed to do...holding Denver to 20 at home should have been enough...hopefully Easley can stay healthy and would like to see Grigson and Flowers contribute next year...

*Is Scott Chandler only good when he plays against the Patriots...

*Not sure what happened at the police station but Chandler Jones disappeared the last two weeks...

*Needs this offseason...O-line help (please don't make me watch Marcus Cannon anymore) especially at tackle...another legit WR...another RB to go with Lewis that can run and catch and not be one-dimensional, would love to roll the dice on Arian Foster if he makes it back...LB depth and another legit CB...

*Out of all the scenarios where the Pats could lose I never thought Gostkowski missing a PAT would be one of them...

 
Old Smiley said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
not trying to troll but what happened?

from 10-0 then going 3-5?
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Injuries.
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This was a big issue...I would also add the O-line did not develop this year...traditionally the Pats have had a lot of success making their O-line better during the course of the season even with injuries...this year was different...as the season wore on there did not seem to be that improvement and that played a huge role in them not getting home-field as well as what went on in Denver...

 
You have to give the Denver D credit. All season, Brady would count 1-2-3 and somebody would be open. Not yesterday. Sure, Brady got hit 20 times and you could say Volmer and Cannon were turnstiles, but normally, the ball is out of his hands anyways. Again, not yesterday. Great, great D.

All that said, three plays continue to haunt me (and neither are Gostkowski's missed PAT nor Bill B's non-FG decision):

* Both of O. Daniels TDs -- J. Collins BURNED on both. Just horrible.

* Brady's int in his own end -- Quite possibly the worst ball he's thrown all year.

If one of those three plays are mopped up, different game.

They stopped the run which was key. The Denver offense, outside of those two Daniels TDs, was mediocre at best and in the 2nd half BEGGED New England to take the lead playing super conservative.

So damn close. You can't win em all.

Was leery all week of playing in Denver. I'll never forget a lousy Mosi Tatupu fumble that cost them a game decades ago. Strange things take place there.

Next year, take game 16 seriously instead of running on every 3rd and 9 play and you'll be at home and avoid this mess.

 
Injuries are a cop out imo. They were generally healthy. Not 100% but who is. They had the majority of their guys back for the game yesterday. Denver beat them for the second time this year. The big games they lose, they lose because the other teams defensive line dominates our offensive line. Yesterday was no different.

 
I can see why outsiders find some Pats fans so irritating. They never get flat out beat. Its always something....injuries, fluke plays, refs etc thats the reason they lost. Yesterday their offensive line was dominated and Brady made some key mistakes because of it.

 
ROCKET said:
O-line has to be first area to be addressed followed closely by wr.
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My feeling is that our WR stable is good enough if the O-line is addressed. Right now, the line is well stocked with pretty good, young interior guys with Stork, Kline, Mason, Jackson, returning Wendell, even Andrews. They need lots of help at T, as once Solder went down, the edge protection was in shambles. Vollmer is good ( not great ) on the right side, but less effective on the left. Cannon / Fleming are not good enough for this type of offense.

I don't know if LaAdrian Waddle is developmental ( didn't see enough to determine if he's JAG or someone that could grow ), but the shelves seem pretty bare on the roster, so they'll need to find some help in the draft / FA for the edge protection. Not the easiest task with no 1st and snug salary cap, but we can hope.

 
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