Dynasty
Footballguy
It has to be Pittsburgh simply to get the home game.
Besides, Pittsburgh's secondary is weak. Brady should shred it easily.
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Besides, Pittsburgh's secondary is weak. Brady should shred it easily.
Your Mother's Twin Sister
Footballguy
They are gonna get pounded by anyone from the NFC. Root for Pittsburgh because if they lose, you are done next week. God willing.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
lol. This team has made the AFC championship 5 straight seasons? That's insane. I hate the Patriots but I gotta give props
Your Mother's Twin Sister
Footballguy
Not really.lol. This team has made the AFC championship 5 straight seasons? That's insane. I hate the Patriots but I gotta give props
Old Smiley
Footballguy
“This week of practice was probably one of our best weeks ever in terms of focus and concentration, everybody being alert and on top of it,” Belichick began. “It’s a real credit to the players. I think that’s number one. Those guys, we demand a lot out of them. This is a hard place to play. It’s from the first day of spring OTAs all the way through training camp all the way through meetings. We’re over 100 practices now this year. That doesn’t count the walkthroughs and the meetings and everything else. Those are just the actual practice practices. You know it’s definitely a grind, but they come in here, like this group, and I’ve said this the last couple of years, too, these guys come in here every day, their pencils are sharpened, they’re sitting right there in those seats, they’re ready to go, they’re attentive, they want to learn, they want to know how to get better, they want to compete and they just do that on a daily basis. That’s been week after week and year after year.”
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Manning has been one of, if not the worst QB in the league this season. The Patriots went into Denver without Edelman, Amendola, Collins, and Hightower and it took the Broncos overtime and a muffed punt by a practice squad WR for them to beat the Patriots. With all those guys back, Denver will get steam rolled. I don't care what Brady's record in Denver is, a healthy Patriots team is no match for the Broncos.
Run It Up
Footballguy
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
Manning struggled against the 30th ranked pass defense of the Steelers. You really think he'll do any better against the Patriots secondary??
bostonfred
Footballguy
There's a case for Denver. I wouldn't look past this game at all.
Denver has done very well against the Patriots in Denver throughout the years.
I don't think the Patriots are going to get any calls in their favor. They certainly didn't at the end of the last Denver game. They will have an enormous home field advantage headed into this game.
Yeah, manning looks mediocre at best. But their defense, running game and kicking game are all excellent. Their receivers played pretty badly today but the Patriot secondary is not the strength of their defense.
The Patriots obviously want to win this is badly. But the Broncos were built for a short term window that looked like it had ended, and manning knows this is probably his last chance.
And we still don't know about all the injuries from the Chiefs game. A lot of good players went down.
Now the good news for the pats. It was Brock, not Peyton, who beat them last time, and the pats had a lead late. It took some big plays and a couple really tough calls for them to beat the pats last time.
New England also has Edelman back and that made a huge difference to the offense. His absence was noted in the last Denver game.
The New England defense - pending injury news - should be able to get a constant pass rush on manning and he did not look good under pressure today.
And of course Brady and Belichick.
It's going to be a fun game. Would obviously rather it be here than in Denver but I think it's a better game in Denver. I'm obviously cheering for New England but if manning wins this one I'll tip my cap and root for him to go out on top. I was happy to see him get the win today. He deserves a better ending to his career than sitting on the bench while the new kid leads them to the playoffs.
Denver has done very well against the Patriots in Denver throughout the years.
I don't think the Patriots are going to get any calls in their favor. They certainly didn't at the end of the last Denver game. They will have an enormous home field advantage headed into this game.
Yeah, manning looks mediocre at best. But their defense, running game and kicking game are all excellent. Their receivers played pretty badly today but the Patriot secondary is not the strength of their defense.
The Patriots obviously want to win this is badly. But the Broncos were built for a short term window that looked like it had ended, and manning knows this is probably his last chance.
And we still don't know about all the injuries from the Chiefs game. A lot of good players went down.
Now the good news for the pats. It was Brock, not Peyton, who beat them last time, and the pats had a lead late. It took some big plays and a couple really tough calls for them to beat the pats last time.
New England also has Edelman back and that made a huge difference to the offense. His absence was noted in the last Denver game.
The New England defense - pending injury news - should be able to get a constant pass rush on manning and he did not look good under pressure today.
And of course Brady and Belichick.
It's going to be a fun game. Would obviously rather it be here than in Denver but I think it's a better game in Denver. I'm obviously cheering for New England but if manning wins this one I'll tip my cap and root for him to go out on top. I was happy to see him get the win today. He deserves a better ending to his career than sitting on the bench while the new kid leads them to the playoffs.
Old Smiley
Footballguy
We had trouble getting off the field on third down. It's been that way for a while.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
If Collins is out the def takes a HUGE hit.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Manning struggled against the 30th ranked pass defense of the Steelers. You really think he'll do any better against the Patriots secondary??
Road Warriors
Footballguy
Initial reports had an oblique strain but likely to play. Hopefully he's able go go and be effective. I'm a bit worried about losing Mayo ( shoulder, unclear on his availability ), who should help contain the DEN running game.
Run It Up
Footballguy
More concerned about Chandler Jones knee, played limited - left early.
Pretty confident Collins and Hightower play come Sunday.
No idea about Mayo.
Pretty confident Collins and Hightower play come Sunday.
No idea about Mayo.
Boo! Boo this man!
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AngryPatriot
Footballguy
Good matchup for the Pats. Who do you like, Brady or Manning? Brady of coourse. Should be good.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Pats open up as the road favorite -2.5, a bit surprised as I thought he game would be more of a pick em. It is going to be a tough game for sure.
devouredbychaos
Footballguy
"Chris Harris Jr said he wasn't himself. Said moving forward Roby is going to play the majority of the snaps. Said shoulder way worse than Ben's"
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/688891446783442944
Wow, that's a huge blow for the Broncos. Brady had 280yds and 3 TDs against that secondary with no Edelman and Amendola, imagine what he could do if Harris is out or very limited.
https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/688891446783442944
Wow, that's a huge blow for the Broncos. Brady had 280yds and 3 TDs against that secondary with no Edelman and Amendola, imagine what he could do if Harris is out or very limited.
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Don't like the immediate reaction from the local media on this one which is basically the Pats should win and it shouldn't be difficult.
Denver is a NE house of horrors. Similar to Miami. The ball never seems to bounce the right way and sometimes that's the difference there.
Key to the game IMHO is the health of Hightower/Mayo/Collins. If NE can stop the run it will be difficult for Denver to win. It was just amazing to me how Denver was getting huge chunks on the ground on that final drive against Pittsburgh. Can't happen next Saturday.
Denver is a NE house of horrors. Similar to Miami. The ball never seems to bounce the right way and sometimes that's the difference there.
Key to the game IMHO is the health of Hightower/Mayo/Collins. If NE can stop the run it will be difficult for Denver to win. It was just amazing to me how Denver was getting huge chunks on the ground on that final drive against Pittsburgh. Can't happen next Saturday.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I somewhat concur with what the media is saying, but games rarely are as easy as the media makes them out to be.
On paper, it looks like Brady should be able to play pitch and catch with a restocked receiving corps compared to the first game in DEN. The OL appeared to do enough against KC to keep Brady clean and allow him to get the ball out quickly. As far as Denver goes, they struggled to move the ball for the most part against a so-so PIT defense. And the Broncos defense got gashed by a depleted PIT offense.
Again, on paper, it looks like NE should score in the 27-31 point range if Brady gets time to thrown and they don't turn the ball over. If the Pats defense can step up and limit the run game and force Manning to throw, there is the potential for the game to be as easy as some of the talking heads are suggesting. If DEN settles for 5 FGs, I don't see them winning. Without help from the Denver defense, I don't see the Broncos getting much more than 20 points.
Again, on paper, I would assess this as a 27-16 win for NE. But weird things happen for NE in DEN, so I will chop off 3 points from the Pats and give them to DEN instead and go with 24-19 NE.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Faveorite part of the Saturday game was Lafells look of complete confusion and the glance back at Brady
http://i.imgur.com/4UQejtX.gifv
http://i.imgur.com/4UQejtX.gifv
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I think LaFell won't be invited back for next year. Due a total of $2.8 million next season. I have heard the team has not been thrilled with his performance this year.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
White has two years left for basically pocket change. I disagree that they don't need him or can't use him. Over the last 7 regular season games, he accounted for 385 yards from scrimmage, 32 receptions, and 6 total TD.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Pro Football Focus or Football Outsiders had him ranked as having a Top 5 or Top 10 receiving season for a RB since they started keeping tabs of RB receiving seasons. Better than any season by a NE RB in the past. IIRC, Lewis also was ranked very highly this year and also had a Top 10 RB receiving season.
Don't remember the details. Someone else posted it in one of the NE related threads. May even have been this one.
pats3in4
Footballguy
LaFell is a JAG. But he is a JAG that seems to get the playbook, despite the drops and that comedy of errors on that final attempt of the 3rd quarter vs. KC.
I don't know the salary cap considerations, but if the Pats could leave his roster spot open to competition in the summer and he wins his spot, that works for me.
I don't know the salary cap considerations, but if the Pats could leave his roster spot open to competition in the summer and he wins his spot, that works for me.
pats3in4
Footballguy
As good as Brady is in the shotgun offense with Edelman, Gronk, Amendola and a competent LT (thank God Volmer is back), the lack of a legit running game really helps the opposing D, especially the remaining 3 defenses. Just a semblance of a running game would force LBs to bite on play action, making Gronk even deadlier on the seam routes. White doesn't give them that.
Baloney Sandwich
Footballguy
So Belichick is usually great at taking away an opposing team's best option, what exactly is that with Denver? I would think he sells out against the run and dares Manning to beat him them with big plays but that goes against the bend don't break defense they typically roll out.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Yes plz the days of old when Woodhead didn't come off the field they just moved him around.I think Lewis can be that guy and more. But having a second competent receiving back is necessary with Lewis injury history.
All that being said, bruisers are so common I doubt NE has any trouble finding that guy either in FA or the draft.
Also how does White have to more years? Was he extended? Thought he was a mid rounder and had a couple years of sub-mediocrity.
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Run It Up said:
Link, Run It Up? Jesus that's some ####ty reporting.
Plans to play... JK LOL IR
Run It Up
Footballguy
It was on the Patriots reddit. It was a tweet from a local beat writer.
Not sure if he was just full of #### or there was actual smoke involved.
Now I'm back to being worried about Collins, Jones and Hightower
Link for those that want to harass him for his source: https://mobile.twitter.com/DMooreNFL/status/689461167991840768?s=09
Not sure if he was just full of #### or there was actual smoke involved.
Now I'm back to being worried about Collins, Jones and Hightower
Link for those that want to harass him for his source: https://mobile.twitter.com/DMooreNFL/status/689461167991840768?s=09
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Run It Up
Footballguy
Also this bull#### apparently happened:
Chris Harris on how to tackle Gronk
This actually pisses me off. ####### Brandon Marshall trying to parlay the refs into more OPI calls on Gronk, then I find out that Hochuli is the official for the AFCCG and now I see this ####.
Chris Harris on how to tackle Gronk
So everyone's paranoid suspicions are actually reality.
This actually pisses me off. ####### Brandon Marshall trying to parlay the refs into more OPI calls on Gronk, then I find out that Hochuli is the official for the AFCCG and now I see this ####.
Let them keep talking.Also this bull#### apparently happened:
Chris Harris on how to tackle Gronk
So everyone's paranoid suspicions are actually reality.
This actually pisses me off. ####### Brandon Marshall trying to parlay the refs into more OPI calls on Gronk, then I find out that Hochuli is the official for the AFCCG and now I see this ####.
Chris Harris, not only talking about Gronk's knees but also talking about shoulder issues, is setting himself up for a fall.
I've seen this movie before.