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Indefinite New York Jets Official thread - **2025 season** - The indefinite rebuild continues (3 Viewers)
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NYRAGE
Footballguy
No offense taken and I'm not worked up at all about it. I'm usually pretty ----------------------------. That's how I describe my heartbeat.
Someone commented on our talent, so I thought of this article that just came out. I just disagree with it and some of your takes.
E.g. I noted that we either have someone returning from injury like Jermaine Johnson or we drafted a replacement for some of our weaker spots, but I don't want to re-hash/re-write everything again.
Regarding Hall, I have to laugh at the criticism I have seen this year. Sure, he's a tick down since coming back from injury or whatever and may not break a tackle, but he's still one of the most talented overall backs in the league. He can run and he can catch. If anyone thinks RB or him specifically is a concern, then I don't know what to say. The only concern is if we are going to give him another contract since you can always draft a cheap one.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This team truly is cursed - we all got excited just to have Lucy pull the football away again.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
No thanks - going the washed up QB route is not a path they should go down again.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So that sounds like missing some of camp/preseason but likely ready for Week 1.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
We can thank Connor Hughes for creating panic. Glenn thinks the toe was stepped on.
To be honest, Fields probably can't afford to miss any camp time. I actually think the offense would run better with Tyrod, but the problem is that he old and there is no future with him. Not to mention that he always gets hurt. Fields at least offers the possibility of being a long-term answer although the odds of it are probably not great.
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Kiddnets
Footballguy
And he's back already - victim to the minute by minute coverage and clickbait era - when i was a kid it would have been a casual mention on the 6pm news as no big deal. We all love the news on demand era but sometimes this is the problem. Regardless - bullet seems to be dodged.
RC94
Footballguy
Despite this, I still think the best course of action is to jump to conclusions and panic when things like this happen.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
And while there's no reason to panic, I thought it only prudent that we make preparations to panic
Gatorade
Footballguy
I quickly sold Russell Wilson to the Fields owner.And while there's no reason to panic, I thought it only prudent that we make preparations to panic
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Remember the discipline of “Kremlinology” that existed before the fall of the Soviet Union? This minute-by-minute injury reporting reminds me of that.
sheerterror
Footballguy
That's just the crows pecking at your neck as you fly higher....or something like that.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Fields is back 11 on 11. Live tackling today. Rosenblatt called it the most physical practice in years. Cimini said it has been football like it's meant to be played.
You gotta love AG. Actual fundamental drills and not just t-shirts and slogans.
You had AVT talking about how their has been no accountability from the prior coaching staffs until now. A lot of the players mentioning how different things are now and have everyone has bought in. Even AG mentioned the improvement in coaching (no humble pie for Glenn).
Hopefully this all results in wins, but you can't help believe that we will finally look like a real team after being such a joke year after year.
You gotta love AG. Actual fundamental drills and not just t-shirts and slogans.
You had AVT talking about how their has been no accountability from the prior coaching staffs until now. A lot of the players mentioning how different things are now and have everyone has bought in. Even AG mentioned the improvement in coaching (no humble pie for Glenn).
Hopefully this all results in wins, but you can't help believe that we will finally look like a real team after being such a joke year after year.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
My favorite coach of all time was Parcells - you can see his influence all over AG and staff.
There is going to be a learning curve and far from being a contender from the start but from where they were last year - looking like a well prepared and coached team.
Little things like bringing in refs to work on penalties - down and dirty teaching technique - having players buy in - no leaks or drama - handling the media while not coming off like a jerk.
compared to last few modern Jet coaches:
Ulbrich - no offense to him and he may be a decent DC/position coach but he was so in over his head it may have been the worst coaching ive seen since Kotite
Saleh - could put together a solid D but way over his head - came off as more of a car salesman with cliches - ignored O - penalties galore and couldnt coach down stretch - constantly outmatched.
Gase - Just awful - trying to block this era out
Bowles - Knew his x/os but complete lack of personality and fire - as we've seen cant handle the O at all and only did well with Brady and expert OCs.
Rex - best since Parcells but obvious huge warts - sideshow drama - no interaction with O and hired awful OCs - awesome D tho
Mangini - another Parcells disciple and not coincidentally a real solid coach. Admits he acted like a jerk and made too many enemies.
Herm - too much of a players coach - another Def HC with no input into the O - complete lack of killer instinct in close games
TLEF316
Footballguy
I have no doubt that the prior regime was awful for various reasons. But I kinda wish the players would just kinda shut up about it.. I know that they're being asked questions, but they should be deflecting rather than explicitly throwing them under the bus.
Focus on the positive and moving forward, not taking shots at the fired coaches to cover up your crappy performance
They're (mainly saleh and ulbrich, who were good dudes) not able to defend themselves and the players lost those games too.
But feel free to crap on Hackett. That's fine.
Focus on the positive and moving forward, not taking shots at the fired coaches to cover up your crappy performance
They're (mainly saleh and ulbrich, who were good dudes) not able to defend themselves and the players lost those games too.
But feel free to crap on Hackett. That's fine.
Reminds me of the early practices here under Dan Campbell.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I get that, but for a lot of these players, they haven't known anything except gimmicks and bad coaching since joining the NFL. Lots of frustration with losing and realizing that they have been bamboozled with coaches that didn't put them in their best place to succeed.
Imagine players from other teams hating on coaches like Carter, but then then we hire them and force them to play for a dbag who couldn't coach. Or clueless coaches like Hackett who get hired for being the QB's buddy and whose film review was actually Hollywood films? Everyone knew the coaching staff was beyond a joke.
Now they are finally being coached and feel like they are part of a real team again that actually wants to cater to their strengths instead of forcing them to mesh into some terrible system that doesn't work. It's better if they don't talk, but they are excited and feeling confident. Ultimately, they will have to back it up with wins.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I know they're just silly rumors, but man would it be sweet if the Jets could somehow get McLaurin
Totally impractical with them just paying Garrett and not likely to be a contender,(the much more sensible choice is to just spend a high pick on a WR next year) but it would certainly would make things more interesting.
This is of course assuming that Fields is at least decent....which is probably 50/50 at best.
Totally impractical with them just paying Garrett and not likely to be a contender,(the much more sensible choice is to just spend a high pick on a WR next year) but it would certainly would make things more interesting.
This is of course assuming that Fields is at least decent....which is probably 50/50 at best.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
They have cap room and im sure Wash would prefer possible Jet draft position in 2026 vs most. That would be an amazing addition - ala Braylon Edwards or Santonio Holmes....im sure a long shot as I doubt they even trade him but thaty would be a perfect addition tot he O - id def trade a 2d....1st would be tough along with the monster deal it would take to sign him but def 2d and more
NYRAGE
Footballguy
What's the difference other than removing Rodgers's name from the dead cap list next year? The unused cap rolls forward. I guess it was smart to leave cap space if we needed it. You never know what opportunity pops up. If not, it gets added to next year's cap space.
rockaction
Footballguy
This isn't because he's been bad the past few days. If we see any viable quarterback anywhere we should sign him. Sign seven of them. I don't care. Your job is to find one or you won't have a job. We don't need another defensive coach pacing the sidelines because his quarterback sucks. I don't want the whole, "let's hang on and hope our defense wins it." It hasn't happened since '02 or whenever that was. Had to be either '01 or '02. About twenty-five years. It's ****ty, awful football. Cot dam, Brick, get in grandpa's ear and let him know.
Signed,
Longsufferer
Signed,
Longsufferer
LBH
Footballguy
Considering the latest practice reports , I think every jets fan should be happy with how fields looked against the packers 1st team D. It was awesome to see him run for that TD. Hope we see a lot of that this season. I know it’s one series against a vanilla D in preseason but it’s better than looking out of sync. I think because of Fields elite athleticism we should try and be patient while he hopefully keeps developing as a passer.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, we can’t get too excited about one series against a vanilla defense, but that series went as well as any of us could have hoped. Fields looked decisive and accurate and showed off what he can do with those legs.
RC94
Footballguy
So far so good
zamboni
Footballguy
AG after the game. Let’s not make too much of this, but the culture change around here is great to see:
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Some minor (or not so minor) things I liked about this game:
They look prepared for a change.
They seemed to tackle better.
Offensive scheme looked like a professional NFL scheme.
The o-line looked good. Kept the QB clean.
They ran the ball well, especially Allen. Donavan flashed.
A QB that is actually mobile.
They utilized the TEs.
On that play that Fields scored the rushing td, look at I. Davis faking the LB as if the ball was getting thrown to him in the End Zone which took the LB away from tackling Fields. An actual smart play from us? Previously unheard of.
A coach that didn't look comatose with "dead eyes". When Clemons took that penalty, whether it was Wilks or Glenn, they pulled Clemons. When McCrary-Ball had that undisciplined penalty, he was removed from the game and got a "talking to" from Glenn.
Good pass rush without needing to blitz.
Jay "Superstar" Tufele looked like a capable DT.
Arian Smith blew past cornerbacks. We will see a long td or 2 at some point this season.
I liked what I saw from Stone Smartt last year and he looked good on that td. Could come in handy this year.
Other things:
If Glenn is serious about cutting down the penalties, shoot Clemons into the sun. He's as dumb as it gets. That would mean adding a free agent DE or trading for one.
It's only one series, so could be just a limited sample, but for fantasy, it looks like they will utilize all three RBs. Not good for Breece. Fields likes using the middle of the field. Too bad Mason is losing valuable playing time due to injury. I would like to see him in this offense. I have a feeling they will rotate a lot of players at RB, WRs outside of Wilson, and at TE.
They look prepared for a change.
They seemed to tackle better.
Offensive scheme looked like a professional NFL scheme.
The o-line looked good. Kept the QB clean.
They ran the ball well, especially Allen. Donavan flashed.
A QB that is actually mobile.
They utilized the TEs.
On that play that Fields scored the rushing td, look at I. Davis faking the LB as if the ball was getting thrown to him in the End Zone which took the LB away from tackling Fields. An actual smart play from us? Previously unheard of.
A coach that didn't look comatose with "dead eyes". When Clemons took that penalty, whether it was Wilks or Glenn, they pulled Clemons. When McCrary-Ball had that undisciplined penalty, he was removed from the game and got a "talking to" from Glenn.
Good pass rush without needing to blitz.
Jay "Superstar" Tufele looked like a capable DT.
Arian Smith blew past cornerbacks. We will see a long td or 2 at some point this season.
I liked what I saw from Stone Smartt last year and he looked good on that td. Could come in handy this year.
Other things:
If Glenn is serious about cutting down the penalties, shoot Clemons into the sun. He's as dumb as it gets. That would mean adding a free agent DE or trading for one.
It's only one series, so could be just a limited sample, but for fantasy, it looks like they will utilize all three RBs. Not good for Breece. Fields likes using the middle of the field. Too bad Mason is losing valuable playing time due to injury. I would like to see him in this offense. I have a feeling they will rotate a lot of players at RB, WRs outside of Wilson, and at TE.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Despite it being preseason, my first thought was “so this is what an NFL offense looks like”. Even Cook made it look competitive and he’s not very good.
Kiddnets
Footballguy
Agree with all Rage!
Its preseason of course but the seeds are there -
Coaching staff looked great - completely agree with not only solid coaching but the enthusiastic vibes - no confused glazed looks - and loved them actually pulling guys after dumb penalties!
O looked competent - OL looked very solid - Fields did what he needed to do - have a feeling Breece/BA is going to upset a lot of Breece owners...BA is gonna get time - loved the I Davis play - smart football has been rare here
Sauce looked so much more physical - he avoided contact last yr - here he was laying hits in a preseason game. Maybe its the security of the new deal but i think its mostly coaching.
Great start - but its preseason - just stay healthy and look competent. My optimism survives another week....
Its preseason of course but the seeds are there -
Coaching staff looked great - completely agree with not only solid coaching but the enthusiastic vibes - no confused glazed looks - and loved them actually pulling guys after dumb penalties!
O looked competent - OL looked very solid - Fields did what he needed to do - have a feeling Breece/BA is going to upset a lot of Breece owners...BA is gonna get time - loved the I Davis play - smart football has been rare here
Sauce looked so much more physical - he avoided contact last yr - here he was laying hits in a preseason game. Maybe its the security of the new deal but i think its mostly coaching.
Great start - but its preseason - just stay healthy and look competent. My optimism survives another week....
mphtrilogy
Footballguy
It’s been a long time to watch a well coached team, keep it coming Glenn
NYRAGE
Footballguy
I'll give him credit for the effort, but he still looks like a little kid jumping on an adult's back and getting carried before the ball carrier goes down. But hey, that's still better than last year.
