Injuries mounting for the Jets next week against Miami (1 Viewer)

[Ministry of Pain]

Revis is likely to miss the game because of the hanstring issue.

The feeling close to the Jets is that cornerback Darrelle Revis will miss at least one game with pulled hamstring according to Rich Cimini of ESPNNewYork.com.

Jason Taylor is having an MRI done today but suffered a hyperextension o fhis elbow...shame he wouldn't be able to play in the game next week in Miami.

Is Pace still out?

Jenkins is out for the season

Santonio is still suspended

Miami is a 2 point favortie right now and I don't think they looked spectacular in their 2 road wins but it's the 1st time that has happened in 22 years where Miami opened with back to back wins on the road. Will the Dolphins make it to 3-0?

 

[packersfan]

Curiously, the Jets' secondary looked better without Revis than they did with him. I think the difference is the Jets' offense woke up and looked much better in Week 2. They should be able to run the ball (Peterson had no trouble running on the Dolphins yesterday) and if Sanchez plays well again I think the Jets will win though the mounting injuries are a concern.

 

[Reaper]

Sounds like Taylor Plays and Revis is out....

We can see the effects of no Jenkins though... Yeah, the Jets entered the season with lack of a pass rush - But, Jenkins is a big help in freeing up others.

Should be Cromartie on Marshall with help And I think people are starting and will start to see that Kyle Wilson is no slouch - so, he got beat a few times one on one with Anquan Boldin... He's much better in the slot against smaller WR's....

Pace sounds like he's coming back, if not this week, then next....

I also think the Jets D got an upgrade when Pool entered the lineup in the 2nd half yesterday.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Curiously, the Jets' secondary looked better without Revis than they did with him. I think the difference is the Jets' offense woke up and looked much better in Week 2. They should be able to run the ball (Peterson had no trouble running on the Dolphins yesterday) and if Sanchez plays well again I think the Jets will win though the mounting injuries are a concern.

You don't see a difference between ADP and Shonn Greene?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Not sure either team will be able to throw the ball well consistently, so this should come down to whichever team runs the ball more and, of course, turnovers. Both defenses are great at forcing turnovers, so we'll see which one forces more next week. With Revis out, covering Brandon Marshall could be tough. Cromartie makes plays, but he gives up a lot of plays, too. No one else in Miami's passing game should scare the Jets, though. Should be a close, low-scoring game.

 

[packersfan]

Curiously, the Jets' secondary looked better without Revis than they did with him. I think the difference is the Jets' offense woke up and looked much better in Week 2. They should be able to run the ball (Peterson had no trouble running on the Dolphins yesterday) and if Sanchez plays well again I think the Jets will win though the mounting injuries are a concern.

You don't see a difference between ADP and Shonn Greene?

Of course but the Jets are a team that can run the football. I'm not talking about the talent of the RBs; I'm talking about what the team can do. The Jets can run the ball. They averaged more than 130 rushing yards in the two games against Miami last season. I think they'll be able to run it against the Dolphins again next Sunday.

 

[JMJ]

No Revis? No Jenkins? No Pace? No problem!

Yes, I'd be silly to say the defense does not need the horses in order to win the race, but the defense goes as Rex goes. With or without key players, the defense will survive and strive due to scheme.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm expecting to see the Wildcat quite a bit in this one. Miami can get Ricky and Ronnie on the field at the same time with a little misdirection in the running game to keep the Jets D from keying on one player in the backfield.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I'm expecting to see the Wildcat quite a bit in this one. Miami can get Ricky and Ronnie on the field at the same time with a little misdirection in the running game to keep the Jets D from keying on one player in the backfield.

That will certainly be a key factor. In the first matchup, the Jets called the wildcat a gimmick, and got torched for 151 rushing yards and 23 Miami first downs. The Jets said they would ya know, really stop the gimmicky offense the second time around, and they did, holding Miami to just 52 rushing yards and 10 first downs (Miami won the 2nd game thanks to 3 D/ST TDs, but the wildcat offense was was stuffed as neither Brown nor Williams cleared 30 rushing yards).I haven't seen a second of Dolphins football in 2010, though. Are they still running the wildcat at the same rate? Based on the statistics, the Mia O doesn't look particularly successful so far (few first downs, points).

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Curiously, the Jets' secondary looked better without Revis than they did with him. I think the difference is the Jets' offense woke up and looked much better in Week 2. They should be able to run the ball (Peterson had no trouble running on the Dolphins yesterday) and if Sanchez plays well again I think the Jets will win though the mounting injuries are a concern.

You don't see a difference between ADP and Shonn Greene?

Of course but the Jets are a team that can run the football. I'm not talking about the talent of the RBs; I'm talking about what the team can do. The Jets can run the ball. They averaged more than 130 rushing yards in the two games against Miami last season. I think they'll be able to run it against the Dolphins again next Sunday.

Good point but when the Vikings had to run the ball they couldn't. I think this will be a great test for Miami as they have to stop 2 types of RBs in this game. Miami's biggest problem this week is mounting some offense. 15-10, 14-10, they are more conservative than Pat Buchanan right now on offense, it's scary. Run the wildcat, fine but try something different than Ronnie up the gut and Ricky sweep left/right. Get Thigpen out there for god's sake and run some different plays.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I'm expecting to see the Wildcat quite a bit in this one. Miami can get Ricky and Ronnie on the field at the same time with a little misdirection in the running game to keep the Jets D from keying on one player in the backfield.

That will certainly be a key factor. In the first matchup, the Jets called the wildcat a gimmick, and got torched for 151 rushing yards and 23 Miami first downs. The Jets said they would ya know, really stop the gimmicky offense the second time around, and they did, holding Miami to just 52 rushing yards and 10 first downs (Miami won the 2nd game thanks to 3 D/ST TDs, but the wildcat offense was was stuffed as neither Brown nor Williams cleared 30 rushing yards).I haven't seen a second of Dolphins football in 2010, though. Are they still running the wildcat at the same rate? Based on the statistics, the Mia O doesn't look particularly successful so far (few first downs, points).

If Miami could punt on 1st down they probably would. In fact I'm sure Henning has it in the playbook.

 

[Grahamburn]

I'm expecting to see the Wildcat quite a bit in this one. Miami can get Ricky and Ronnie on the field at the same time with a little misdirection in the running game to keep the Jets D from keying on one player in the backfield.

That will certainly be a key factor. In the first matchup, the Jets called the wildcat a gimmick, and got torched for 151 rushing yards and 23 Miami first downs. The Jets said they would ya know, really stop the gimmicky offense the second time around, and they did, holding Miami to just 52 rushing yards and 10 first downs (Miami won the 2nd game thanks to 3 D/ST TDs, but the wildcat offense was was stuffed as neither Brown nor Williams cleared 30 rushing yards).I haven't seen a second of Dolphins football in 2010, though. Are they still running the wildcat at the same rate? Based on the statistics, the Mia O doesn't look particularly successful so far (few first downs, points).

They ran it some in the red zone against Minnesota with marginal success. It seems to be more effective against a defense like the Jets because their bread and butter is pressuring the QB. If the Dolphins can have a little success getting 4-5 yards a pop with the Wildcat and put Henne in more manageable 3rd downs they'll be much more effective moving the ball.I wouldn't be surprised to see Ronnie Brown attempt a pass or two either if the Jets sell out to stop it.

 

[Reaper]

I'm expecting to see the Wildcat quite a bit in this one. Miami can get Ricky and Ronnie on the field at the same time with a little misdirection in the running game to keep the Jets D from keying on one player in the backfield.

That will certainly be a key factor. In the first matchup, the Jets called the wildcat a gimmick, and got torched for 151 rushing yards and 23 Miami first downs. The Jets said they would ya know, really stop the gimmicky offense the second time around, and they did, holding Miami to just 52 rushing yards and 10 first downs (Miami won the 2nd game thanks to 3 D/ST TDs, but the wildcat offense was was stuffed as neither Brown nor Williams cleared 30 rushing yards).I haven't seen a second of Dolphins football in 2010, though. Are they still running the wildcat at the same rate? Based on the statistics, the Mia O doesn't look particularly successful so far (few first downs, points).

They ran it some in the red zone against Minnesota with marginal success. It seems to be more effective against a defense like the Jets because their bread and butter is pressuring the QB. If the Dolphins can have a little success getting 4-5 yards a pop with the Wildcat and put Henne in more manageable 3rd downs they'll be much more effective moving the ball.I wouldn't be surprised to see Ronnie Brown attempt a pass or two either if the Jets sell out to stop it.

Once Revis went down, the Jets didn't sell out on the blitz like they usually do.....Vs the best QB's in the league, without a Monster pass rusher I think Rex feels he has to dial something up often..... Against Henne, I have a feeling they sit back a little more and contain the run.

 

[=Smackdown=]

MOP - Didn't you predict the Dolphins would start 2-6?

Hopefully the Dolphins don't miss the secret weapon this Sunday night - Ted Ginn !

Don't have the numbers in front of me but hasn't Marshall abused Cromartie in some of their past matchups in the AFC West? I fully expect to see a ton of the Wildcat Sunday night with Ronnie throwing out of it.

This game is going to be a slug fest - they both want to run the ball and stop the run.

Can the Dolphins make it 4 in a row? PRIME TIME - Sunday night and they'll be sporting the orange jerseys.

I'm pumped already.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP - Didn't you predict the Dolphins would start 2-6?Hopefully the Dolphins don't miss the secret weapon this Sunday night - Ted Ginn !Don't have the numbers in front of me but hasn't Marshall abused Cromartie in some of their past matchups in the AFC West? I fully expect to see a ton of the Wildcat Sunday night with Ronnie throwing out of it.This game is going to be a slug fest - they both want to run the ball and stop the run.Can the Dolphins make it 4 in a row? PRIME TIME - Sunday night and they'll be sporting the orange jerseys.I'm pumped already.

Have you watched the last 2 weeks? They are lucky to be 2-0. Now that said I'll take the lucky wins over them playing well and losing games like they did last year to Indy and New Orleans. They cannot continue to play like they are on offense and win football games, you know that's true.

 

[=Smackdown=]

MOP - Didn't you predict the Dolphins would start 2-6?Hopefully the Dolphins don't miss the secret weapon this Sunday night - Ted Ginn !Don't have the numbers in front of me but hasn't Marshall abused Cromartie in some of their past matchups in the AFC West? I fully expect to see a ton of the Wildcat Sunday night with Ronnie throwing out of it.This game is going to be a slug fest - they both want to run the ball and stop the run.Can the Dolphins make it 4 in a row? PRIME TIME - Sunday night and they'll be sporting the orange jerseys.I'm pumped already.

Have you watched the last 2 weeks? They are lucky to be 2-0. Now that said I'll take the lucky wins over them playing well and losing games like they did last year to Indy and New Orleans. They cannot continue to play like they are on offense and win football games, you know that's true.

I've watched every minute of both games. Lucky? I'll take 2 road wins to open the season every year - the last time a team went into MINN and won was 2008 - for the most part they controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball against a team that was well rested.Sure - Ricky and Ronnie tried to give the game away but the D stepped up when it counted most.Look for Cameron Wake to introduce himself early and often to the Sanchize.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

MOP - Didn't you predict the Dolphins would start 2-6?Hopefully the Dolphins don't miss the secret weapon this Sunday night - Ted Ginn !Don't have the numbers in front of me but hasn't Marshall abused Cromartie in some of their past matchups in the AFC West? I fully expect to see a ton of the Wildcat Sunday night with Ronnie throwing out of it.This game is going to be a slug fest - they both want to run the ball and stop the run.Can the Dolphins make it 4 in a row? PRIME TIME - Sunday night and they'll be sporting the orange jerseys.I'm pumped already.

Have you watched the last 2 weeks? They are lucky to be 2-0. Now that said I'll take the lucky wins over them playing well and losing games like they did last year to Indy and New Orleans. They cannot continue to play like they are on offense and win football games, you know that's true.

I've watched every minute of both games. Lucky? I'll take 2 road wins to open the season every year - the last time a team went into MINN and won was 2008 - for the most part they controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball against a team that was well rested.Sure - Ricky and Ronnie tried to give the game away but the D stepped up when it counted most.Look for Cameron Wake to introduce himself early and often to the Sanchize.

Smack, we're both Miami fans but here is why I'm not a popular guy at the bar. I'm a realist and I'm 36 years old, I would like Miami to make it to a Super Bowl and win before I die...my best Miami memories are Dan Marino and a few playoff games. We are in year 3 of this era and I am noticing a bad trend when it comes to play calling and the conservative approach of the coach. In 2008 Miami was coming off a 1-15 year, had very little to work with or so we though and they managed to piece together an 11-5 season by bringing in Chad Pennington(Who btw I think should be starting) and being very conservative with the ball, never making any turnovers, and running a high school type run formation known as the wildcat. We are in year 3 and we have retooled the defense although it still needs some work but I'll let everyone else figure that out. The scheme is working for sure. But the Miami offense is very limited in what it can do and I am not confident that Miami can continue to win football games like this. Put it another way, they have a 4 game stretch coming up of GB, Pitt, Cinci, and Balt...3 of them on the road. I still cannot see this team winning any of those games. They will be lucky to split the next 2 games, I still see them as about 3-5 after 8 games. 2nd half is a little easier but they are a long way from the playoffs and light years from making a Super Bowl run especially with this offense.This is the era of offense, not defense. You need at least a mix of both and they have an offense better suited for 1972 than 2010. Just keeping it real but it is nice to be 2-0.

 

[RhythMan2112]

As an outsider w/out much exposure to Dolphins games, as well as a BMarshall owner (and possible seller of him), do you guys think Sporano will ever open up the offense more to Henne? Like MOP said, aside from the Wildcat, the offense is pretty stale, so with those four big games coming up, where would you project their passing game to be? Cheers

 

[=Smackdown=]

You take a very pessimistic look at our team MOP. I'm a bit older and started with them in the Wood-Strock/Killer B's/A.J.Duhe days

Agree with some of what you're saying - IMO Dan Henning needs to go - I hope this is his last year

On D Nolan was a great hire - and they've gotten a lot younger on that side of the ball. Dansby has been a great addition and it's nice to finally see a LB cover a TE. When was the last time that's happened for the Dolphins? Vontae Davis is playing great. Cameron Wake applies constant pressure.

Don't agree with you at all on Henne vs Pennington. Henne needs to be in there learning the ropes. Pennington is not the future of this team. If you think the Dolphins are on some sort of 3-5 year plan to get to the Super Bowl I doubt Pennington is even playing 2 years from now.

They still have some work to do on the offense - but the Oline IMO is firmly in place and to me that's the most important thing.

Edit to add: Agreed that the 1st 8 games of their schedule is absolutely brutal - but no one gave them much of a chance in MINN yesterday either. I surely don't see them being 3-5 after Week 8. IMO they beat both the Jets and Pats the next 2 weeks.

 

[Reaper]

You take a very pessimistic look at our team MOP. I'm a bit older and started with them in the Wood-Strock/Killer B's/A.J.Duhe daysAgree with some of what you're saying - IMO Dan Henning needs to go - I hope this is his last yearOn D Nolan was a great hire - and they've gotten a lot younger on that side of the ball. Dansby has been a great addition and it's nice to finally see a LB cover a TE. When was the last time that's happened for the Dolphins? Vontae Davis is playing great. Cameron Wake applies constant pressure.Don't agree with you at all on Henne vs Pennington. Henne needs to be in there learning the ropes. Pennington is not the future of this team. If you think the Dolphins are on some sort of 3-5 year plan to get to the Super Bowl I doubt Pennington is even playing 2 years from now.They still have some work to do on the offense - but the Oline IMO is firmly in place and to me that's the most important thing.Edit to add: Agreed that the 1st 8 games of their schedule is absolutely brutal - but no one gave them much of a chance in MINN yesterday either. I surely don't see them being 3-5 after Week 8. IMO they beat both the Jets and Pats the next 2 weeks.

Not old enough to remember the Super Bowl? Funny about Dan Henning because Jets fans have fond memories of him... Wasn't he the one behind the Wildcat? - He actually used to do that with the Jets and Ray Lucas but, I guess you get to label it if it's very successful.... But, Henning did good things in NY and I think a lot of Jet fans are lining up to trade Brian Schottenheimer for him - Wouldn't even be surprised if he comes back to NY if both are on the market. What's REALLY funny is Mike Nolan was a Bust in NY and was a little lost at that point in his career IMO... Since then I always questioned Nolan but, he seems to be doing good things of late.

 

[Desert_Power]

MOP - Didn't you predict the Dolphins would start 2-6?

Hopefully the Dolphins don't miss the secret weapon this Sunday night - Ted Ginn !

Don't have the numbers in front of me but hasn't Marshall abused Cromartie in some of their past matchups in the AFC West? I fully expect to see a ton of the Wildcat Sunday night with Ronnie throwing out of it.

This game is going to be a slug fest - they both want to run the ball and stop the run.

Can the Dolphins make it 4 in a row? PRIME TIME - Sunday night and they'll be sporting the orange jerseys.

I'm pumped already.

Have you watched the last 2 weeks? They are lucky to be 2-0. Now that said I'll take the lucky wins over them playing well and losing games like they did last year to Indy and New Orleans. They cannot continue to play like they are on offense and win football games, you know that's true.

I've watched every minute of both games. Lucky? I'll take 2 road wins to open the season every year - the last time a team went into MINN and won was 2008 - for the most part they controlled the LOS on both sides of the ball against a team that was well rested.Sure - Ricky and Ronnie tried to give the game away but the D stepped up when it counted most.

Look for Cameron Wake to introduce himself early and often to the Sanchize.

Smack, we're both Miami fans but here is why I'm not a popular guy at the bar. I'm a realist and I'm 36 years old, I would like Miami to make it to a Super Bowl and win before I die...my best Miami memories are Dan Marino and a few playoff games. We are in year 3 of this era and I am noticing a bad trend when it comes to play calling and the conservative approach of the coach. In 2008 Miami was coming off a 1-15 year, had very little to work with or so we though and they managed to piece together an 11-5 season by bringing in Chad Pennington(Who btw I think should be starting) and being very conservative with the ball, never making any turnovers, and running a high school type run formation known as the wildcat.

Absolutely not.

 

[K8!]

O.P.

You should have yur own site, or maybe a blog.

 

[=Smackdown=]

You take a very pessimistic look at our team MOP. I'm a bit older and started with them in the Wood-Strock/Killer B's/A.J.Duhe days

Agree with some of what you're saying - IMO Dan Henning needs to go - I hope this is his last year

On D Nolan was a great hire - and they've gotten a lot younger on that side of the ball. Dansby has been a great addition and it's nice to finally see a LB cover a TE. When was the last time that's happened for the Dolphins? Vontae Davis is playing great. Cameron Wake applies constant pressure.

Don't agree with you at all on Henne vs Pennington. Henne needs to be in there learning the ropes. Pennington is not the future of this team. If you think the Dolphins are on some sort of 3-5 year plan to get to the Super Bowl I doubt Pennington is even playing 2 years from now.

They still have some work to do on the offense - but the Oline IMO is firmly in place and to me that's the most important thing.

Edit to add: Agreed that the 1st 8 games of their schedule is absolutely brutal - but no one gave them much of a chance in MINN yesterday either. I surely don't see them being 3-5 after Week 8. IMO they beat both the Jets and Pats the next 2 weeks.

Not old enough to remember the Super Bowl?

Funny about Dan Henning because Jets fans have fond memories of him... Wasn't he the one behind the Wildcat? - He actually used to do that with the Jets and Ray Lucas but, I guess you get to label it if it's very successful....

But, Henning did good things in NY and I think a lot of Jet fans are lining up to trade Brian Schottenheimer for him - Wouldn't even be surprised if he comes back to NY if both are on the market.

What's REALLY funny is Mike Nolan was a Bust in NY and was a little lost at that point in his career IMO... Since then I always questioned Nolan but, he seems to be doing good things of late.

Unfortunately not.

All I got are bad memories of losing to Riggins and the Redskins in '83 and then Montana and the 49ers in 1985.

The Dolphins highlight being a 14-0 win over your Jets in the AFC championship game.

It's been a long time - a long painful wait I share with most Jets fans under the age of 40.