interesting strategy pulled off today... (1 Viewer)

[moleculo]

10 team redraft - no PPR. Starters = 1QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex (WR, RB, or TE)

Not looking for a rate my team - this isn't my team, afterall. This came from a guy who is not considered a shark, but after what he pulled off, I'm not sure what to think. This could be an extremely sneaky move - something that I haven't seen discussed before, I wanted to get y'alls take here.

1.10 - Peyton Manning

2.1 - Marvin Harrison

3.10 - Reggie Wayne

4.1 - Reggie Bush

5.10 - Frank Gore

6.1 - Chester Taylor

...

he managed to scrap together some other RB's which could be servicable. He's not solid @ RB by any means, but with only one starting RB required, he could be on to something here. Between Bush, Gore, and Taylor, he should be able to scrap together a decent RB by playing matchups and the hot hand.

Regardless - he has the entire Colts passing attack sewn up. Basically, almost every TD pass Manning throws to a WR, he scores double.

Obviously, he will be killed in his bye week, but he figures that it's worth sacraficing one game to be strong for all other games. He is also putting all of his eggs in one basket, but if you have to find a basket to putt all eggs into, I think that this is the one to do it in.

Thoughts?

 

[duaneok66]

10 team redraft - no PPR. Starters = 1QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex (WR, RB, or TE)Not looking for a rate my team - this isn't my team, afterall. This came from a guy who is not considered a shark, but after what he pulled off, I'm not sure what to think. This could be an extremely sneaky move - something that I haven't seen discussed before, I wanted to get y'alls take here.1.10 - Peyton Manning2.1 - Marvin Harrison3.10 - Reggie Wayne4.1 - Reggie Bush5.10 - Frank Gore6.1 - Chester Taylor...he managed to scrap together some other RB's which could be servicable. He's not solid @ RB by any means, but with only one starting RB required, he could be on to something here. Between Bush, Gore, and Taylor, he should be able to scrap together a decent RB by playing matchups and the hot hand.Regardless - he has the entire Colts passing attack sewn up. Basically, almost every TD pass Manning throws to a WR, he scores double.Obviously, he will be killed in his bye week, but he figures that it's worth sacraficing one game to be strong for all other games. He is also putting all of his eggs in one basket, but if you have to find a basket to putt all eggs into, I think that this is the one to do it in.Thoughts?

most know that I think Bush is overhyped, but Bush is likely going higher than pick #41 in most drafts . . .

 

[my man otis]

unless its 6 pts for a passing td and 1 pts for 20 yards i don't like it at all, especially in a 10 teamer.

if not i think this guy goes 6-8 at best

 

[Texican]

If he goes with 1 RB, who are the other WRs to complete the 4 needed?

ETA: How does his whole team look?

 

[wannabee]

I love the idea. I actually suggested this to someone here in a keeper league. Can you imagine keeping LJ, then getting the Indy pass game?

For the record, I see the Indy pass offense this year as one that will equal or exceed Manning's huge year a couple back.

 

[moleculo]

unless its 6 pts for a passing td and 1 pts for 20 yards i don't like it at all, especially in a 10 teamer.if not i think this guy goes 6-8 at best

it is.

 

[moleculo]

If he goes with 1 RB, who are the other WRs to complete the 4 needed?ETA: How does his whole team look?

Colts, Indianapolis IND TMQB Falcons, Atlanta ATL TMQB Ravens, Baltimore BAL TMQB Betts, Ladell WAS RB Bush, Reggie NOS RB Gore, Frank SFO RB Taylor, Chester MIN RB Taylor, Fred JAC RB Harrison, Marvin IND WRSmith, Rod DEN WR Taylor, Travis MIN WR Wayne, Reggie IND WR White, Roddy ATL WR McMichael, Randy MIA TE Cardinals, Arizona ARI TMPK Giants, New York NYG Def this happened in a live draft today - no one knew about the Lelie trade.

 

[moleculo]

10 team redraft - no PPR. Starters = 1QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex (WR, RB, or TE)Not looking for a rate my team - this isn't my team, afterall. This came from a guy who is not considered a shark, but after what he pulled off, I'm not sure what to think. This could be an extremely sneaky move - something that I haven't seen discussed before, I wanted to get y'alls take here.1.10 - Peyton Manning2.1 - Marvin Harrison3.10 - Reggie Wayne4.1 - Reggie Bush5.10 - Frank Gore6.1 - Chester Taylor...he managed to scrap together some other RB's which could be servicable. He's not solid @ RB by any means, but with only one starting RB required, he could be on to something here. Between Bush, Gore, and Taylor, he should be able to scrap together a decent RB by playing matchups and the hot hand.Regardless - he has the entire Colts passing attack sewn up. Basically, almost every TD pass Manning throws to a WR, he scores double.Obviously, he will be killed in his bye week, but he figures that it's worth sacraficing one game to be strong for all other games. He is also putting all of his eggs in one basket, but if you have to find a basket to putt all eggs into, I think that this is the one to do it in.Thoughts?

most know that I think Bush is overhyped, but Bush is likely going higher than pick #41 in most drafts . . .

I was suprised to see him last that long. I wanted to take him next time around (obviously), but there was too much other value that fell into my lap. I don't want to go into details because I'm not into bragging threads.

 

[AcerFC]

I like this startegy as Taylor could produce big numbers this year. My only question is how are guys like Bush, Taylor and Gore still around in the 4th 5th and 6th. Are these guys you know or is it an online league. In my league, Ill be lucky if Gore falls to the 3rd/4th round. the other 2 guys will be long gone

The guy will defnitely be at the top of the league with only 1 RB starting

 

[my man otis]

unless its 6 pts for a passing td and 1 pts for 20 yards i don't like it at all, especially in a 10 teamer.if not i think this guy goes 6-8 at best

it is.

hmmm, then he might have a shot. the colts have an pretty easy passing schedule against this year.it's a decent gamble in that format. no edge, easy schedule, scoring format.i give him some credit for his b@lls, thats for sure.

 

[moleculo]

I like this startegy as Taylor could produce big numbers this year. My only question is how are guys like Bush, Taylor and Gore still around in the 4th 5th and 6th. Are these guys you know or is it an online league. In my league, Ill be lucky if Gore falls to the 3rd/4th round. the other 2 guys will be long goneThe guy will defnitely be at the top of the league with only 1 RB starting

it's a bunch of guys I know. I consider 4 out of 10 knowlegeable, even though we have been playing a long time. The guy who pulled this off was using a draft guide printed up from ESPN or sports illustrated. When he took Gore, I had a couple of picks before him (and after him after the snake), and let Gore drop, figuring he'd be there on the way back. I am still Shuked that he even knows who Gore is.

 

[Raider Nation]

He's gonna be loving life when Indy rests their starters after one quarter in your championship week.

 

[Don Quixote]

Look at Manning's, Harrison's, and Wayne's numbers from Week 16 last year. I wouldn't want so many eggs in one basket my Super Bowl week.

 

[moleculo]

He's gonna be loving life when Indy rests their starters after one quarter in your championship week.

Look at Manning's, Harrison's, and Wayne's numbers from Week 16 last year. I wouldn't want so many eggs in one basket my Super Bowl week.

good points. Hopefully I can meet him that week.

 

[eoMMan]

And if Manning happens to get hurt?

 

[Z-Dog]

Let's put some numbers down from '04 to look at the upside:

Manning

| Name | G | CMP ATT PCT YARD Y/A TD IN | RSH YARD TD |+----------------------+----+-------------------------------+-------------+| Peyton Manning | 16 | 336 497 67.6 4557 9.2 49 10 | 25 38 0 |Harrison and Wayne combined for 2323 yards and 27 TDS. Of course, in that year Wayne was being drafted significantly later than this year.Last year, with Manning coming back to earth, Harrison and Wayne combined for 2201 yards and 17 TDs.

Can this team win if Manning has a season more like '05 than '04? Yeah, I think so. I think this is a viable strategy if can find some of those backs later on. But I don't think Gore at 5.10 and Taylor at 6.1 is going to happen much. Taylor's ADP is early 3rd round in a ten-teamer and Gore's ADP is in the bottom 4th, so two guys fell into his lap, one with a thud. Oh yeah, and Bush is going in the mid 2nd, not 4th.

Guuppy league? I don't know how else to describe a league in which Taylor goes in the 6th round.

 

[Wingnut]

A guy in my league 2 years ago (Manning record setting year) did this - He had Manning, Wayne, Harrison and Stokley. He went to the championship game but lost it because they were all sitting week 17 (and maybe week 16 that year?)

He started Sorgi in that game. It was sad and funny.

 

[dlptown]

I actually really like the team and would duplicate if given the chance- albeit I don't respect the league considering the strength of his team. There are concerns about the playoffs, but I think he deserves credit that his team should get that far and if he drafts well in the middle, as he did be the two Taylors, he still has a shot at the trophy.

I tend to be RB heavy historically, but I too am going to try and load up on the Indy boys this Sunday

 

[videoguy505]

And if Manning happens to get hurt?

He does have some solace in that it's teamQB, not Manning, and that if Manning's hurt, Edgerrin James still isn't on the team. Shaun King or Jim Sorgi will still be chucking the ball early and often.Otherwise, I'm lukewarm on this strategy. WRs are always a crapshoot. You never know who's going to have the big week... even netting the top 2 WRs for Indy, they could start out like last year and play low-scoring games and relying on D instead of beating up on teams with the O. Stokley and the TE could become more involved with opponents not having stack the running lanes. Point is, no position is as consistent week-to-week as the stud RB. They're almost always going to have a floor of 80 yds and 1 TD 13 out of 16 weeks. Facing a team that could start 3 RBs pulling in 12 points each puts you in a quick hole relying on that passing game, you'll need 3 TDs by the Indy passing game every week just to start even with the other guy's floor. It will definitely keep him competitive most weeks, but I don't think he's got anything sewn up yet. I could easily see this kind of team challenging for the last playoff spot as run away with the division.

 

[Wingnut]

And if Manning happens to get hurt?

Unpossible.

 

[ravnzfan]

hmmm...I go to auction next week and will try this for the helluva it

just cover the Indy bye week w/inexpensive players

 

[moleculo]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league. He had some high weeks, and some low weeks. The key for him was the emergence of Gore (I think that was key for alot of championship teams), and Dayne for the playoffs. He had a record of 7-6 on the season and was the last wild-card, but won all of his playoff games.

 

[Doug B]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league. He had some high weeks, and some low weeks. The key for him was the emergence of Gore (I think that was key for alot of championship teams), and Dayne for the playoffs. He had a record of 7-6 on the season and was the last wild-card, but won all of his playoff games.

Bush's emergence couldn't have hurt, either (unless he dealt him away). Did this guy start off 5-6 or 6-6, and then run the table?

 

[moleculo]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league. He had some high weeks, and some low weeks. The key for him was the emergence of Gore (I think that was key for alot of championship teams), and Dayne for the playoffs. He had a record of 7-6 on the season and was the last wild-card, but won all of his playoff games.

Bush's emergence couldn't have hurt, either (unless he dealt him away). Did this guy start off 5-6 or 6-6, and then run the table?

he actually cut Bush the week before he had his big game.He started off 2-4 and then went 5-2 to finish the season out.

 

[Marc Levin]

10 team redraft - no PPR. Starters = 1QB, 1 RB, 2 WR, 2 flex (WR, RB, or TE)Not looking for a rate my team - this isn't my team, afterall. This came from a guy who is not considered a shark, but after what he pulled off, I'm not sure what to think. This could be an extremely sneaky move - something that I haven't seen discussed before, I wanted to get y'alls take here.1.10 - Peyton Manning2.1 - Marvin Harrison3.10 - Reggie Wayne4.1 - Reggie Bush5.10 - Frank Gore6.1 - Chester Taylor...he managed to scrap together some other RB's which could be servicable. He's not solid @ RB by any means, but with only one starting RB required, he could be on to something here. Between Bush, Gore, and Taylor, he should be able to scrap together a decent RB by playing matchups and the hot hand.Regardless - he has the entire Colts passing attack sewn up. Basically, almost every TD pass Manning throws to a WR, he scores double.Obviously, he will be killed in his bye week, but he figures that it's worth sacraficing one game to be strong for all other games. He is also putting all of his eggs in one basket, but if you have to find a basket to putt all eggs into, I think that this is the one to do it in.Thoughts?

I haven't read another word, but I bet this guy did well in the league.

 

[Marc Levin]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

 

[moleculo]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

 

[my man otis]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

Honestly, you should hope he tries this next year also. There's no way he hits on RBs like that in the 5th and 6th round two years in a row. Taylor's bad 2nd half had to hurt, but Gore was a stud all year.

 

[buck naked]

Honestly, you should hope he tries this next year also. There's no way he hits on RBs like that in the 5th and 6th round two years in a row. Taylor's bad 2nd half had to hurt, but Gore was a stud all year.

Who cares. The dude won his league THIS year. Nine other guys can't say that.

 

[AnonymousBob]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

Honestly, you should hope he tries this next year also. There's no way he hits on RBs like that in the 5th and 6th round two years in a row. Taylor's bad 2nd half had to hurt, but Gore was a stud all year.

I'm a Gore fan and he helped me get to the championship but he was NOT a stud all year. In fact, he had several weeks where he likely KILLED his fantasy owners. Hell, even Otis would likely admit he had a few too many clunkers.

 

[dickey moe]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

Honestly, you should hope he tries this next year also. There's no way he hits on RBs like that in the 5th and 6th round two years in a row. Taylor's bad 2nd half had to hurt, but Gore was a stud all year.

I'm a Gore fan and he helped me get to the championship but he was NOT a stud all year. In fact, he had several weeks where he likely KILLED his fantasy owners. Hell, even Otis would likely admit he had a few too many clunkers.

LT and Jackson seem to be the only RBs who didn't, IIRC. Even LT disappointed in Week 16, when most owners needed him most.

 

[Marc Levin]

I think we are missing the strategy - handcuffing the Colts passing game was the interesting part of the strategy, not getting lucky at RB.

I'm a little surprised he didn't go for Addai.

BTW, in a 10-team league, RBs of the Gore variety fall into the 5th with regularity.

 

[Assani Fisher]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

But I don't think the fact that he took 3 guys from one team had antyhing to do with it. As you said, it was a known concept to wait on RBs like he did- the key is to hit on your RBs later in the draft.Do you really think it would've been that much different if he would've taken P Manning, C Johnson, and Darrell Jackson instead?

 

[moleculo]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

But I don't think the fact that he took 3 guys from one team had antyhing to do with it. As you said, it was a known concept to wait on RBs like he did- the key is to hit on your RBs later in the draft.Do you really think it would've been that much different if he would've taken P Manning, C Johnson, and Darrell Jackson instead?

would you take 2 WRs and a QB from the same team with your first three picks? If something had happened to Peyton, he would have been sunk - destined for last place, easily.

 

[my man otis]

update: should be no spuprise: dude won the league.

yeah. It really was an amazing draft on his part. Left me scratching my head afterwards - hence, this thread. He did it perfectly by avoiding RB's early, then picking up the scraps later. That's a known concept. What he did differently was combining his first three picks from one team. Not many would have had the guts to try that.

But I don't think the fact that he took 3 guys from one team had antyhing to do with it. As you said, it was a known concept to wait on RBs like he did- the key is to hit on your RBs later in the draft.Do you really think it would've been that much different if he would've taken P Manning, C Johnson, and Darrell Jackson instead?

would you take 2 WRs and a QB from the same team with your first three picks? If something had happened to Peyton, he would have been sunk - destined for last place, easily.

Manning has never missed a game though, and is likely why he didn't go Palmer, CJ and Housh, for example.

 

[my man otis]

I think we are missing the strategy - handcuffing the Colts passing game was the interesting part of the strategy, not getting lucky at RB.I'm a little surprised he didn't go for Addai.BTW, in a 10-team league, RBs of the Gore variety fall into the 5th with regularity.

I'm not sure you can pull the strategy off without hitting on the RBs late. I admittedly missed the fact that it is a 10-team league...and the fact that he only had to start 1 RB. That format makes it much more viable.Props to the guy that pulled it off.So, what's a similar move next year? Brees, Colston and either Horn/Henderson? They most likely wouldn't cost you the first three picks. You can argue Palmer, Housh & CJ, but the fact that they play Baltimore and Pittsburgh 2x each would make me avoid that team.

 

[bryhamm]

I think we are missing the strategy - handcuffing the Colts passing game was the interesting part of the strategy, not getting lucky at RB.

I'm a little surprised he didn't go for Addai.

BTW, in a 10-team league, RBs of the Gore variety fall into the 5th with regularity.

I'm not sure you can pull the strategy off without hitting on the RBs late. I admittedly missed the fact that it is a 10-team league...and the fact that he only had to start 1 RB. That format makes it much more viable.Props to the guy that pulled it off.

So, what's a similar move next year? Brees, Colston and either Horn/Henderson? They most likely wouldn't cost you the first three picks. You can argue Palmer, Housh & CJ, but the fact that they play Baltimore and Pittsburgh 2x each would make me avoid that team.

Why would this concern you? The way to beat Pitt is to pass on them.

 

[my man otis]

I think we are missing the strategy - handcuffing the Colts passing game was the interesting part of the strategy, not getting lucky at RB.

I'm a little surprised he didn't go for Addai.

BTW, in a 10-team league, RBs of the Gore variety fall into the 5th with regularity.

I'm not sure you can pull the strategy off without hitting on the RBs late. I admittedly missed the fact that it is a 10-team league...and the fact that he only had to start 1 RB. That format makes it much more viable.Props to the guy that pulled it off.

So, what's a similar move next year? Brees, Colston and either Horn/Henderson? They most likely wouldn't cost you the first three picks. You can argue Palmer, Housh & CJ, but the fact that they play Baltimore and Pittsburgh 2x each would make me avoid that team.

Why would this concern you? The way to beat Pitt is to pass on them.

Pit has been very good vs the pass in the recent past.

 

[bryhamm]

I think we are missing the strategy - handcuffing the Colts passing game was the interesting part of the strategy, not getting lucky at RB.

I'm a little surprised he didn't go for Addai.

BTW, in a 10-team league, RBs of the Gore variety fall into the 5th with regularity.

I'm not sure you can pull the strategy off without hitting on the RBs late. I admittedly missed the fact that it is a 10-team league...and the fact that he only had to start 1 RB. That format makes it much more viable.Props to the guy that pulled it off.

So, what's a similar move next year? Brees, Colston and either Horn/Henderson? They most likely wouldn't cost you the first three picks. You can argue Palmer, Housh & CJ, but the fact that they play Baltimore and Pittsburgh 2x each would make me avoid that team.

Why would this concern you? The way to beat Pitt is to pass on them.

Pit has been very good vs the pass in the recent past.

Have you watched any games?