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[gianmarco]

There are 10 teams that are currently averaging under 100 yds rushing/game. That means 22 teams are over it. So, who are those teams? Well, you may be a little surprised (or maybe not). In order of worst to first

1. St. Louis (56 yds/game) -- S. Jackson

2. Indy (64 yds/game) -- Addai

3. Cleveland (72 yds/game) -- J. Lewis

4. Detroit (76 yds/game) -- K. Smith

5. New Orleans (81 yds/game) -- R. Bush

6. Philly (84 yds/game) -- Westbrook

7. Cincy (85 yds/game) -- Perry

8. NYJ (86 yds/game) -- T. Jones

9. SD (97 yds/game) -- LT

10. Buff (99 yds/game) -- Lynch

Half of those guys were 1st round picks. Bush and Lewis went pretty high themselves. And T. Jones and Perry were actually expected to be at least above average.

So, what's going on? Is it because their teams are struggling? Their O-lines? Their backups not kicking in as much as others? I know each team above probably has their own explanations, but overall, those are some pretty lousy team rushing #'s for guys that are supposed to be elite in the league, even if only after 3 weeks.

When you consider that teams like Atlanta, Baltimore, Chicago, and Seattle (among others) are running the ball VERY well and these are teams that aren't very good and should be getting down in games, have suspect O-lines, or have RB's that just aren't expected to do well, I just think it's a little surprising both how many teams are struggling with elite RB's and how much they are struggling. Those #'s simply are not good.

 

[Andy Herron]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.

RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

 

[-baller]

dude, you're looking at 3 weeks.

I think opponents and injury might have something to do w/it.

who thought bush was going to average 100 yds/game on the ground??

bush and westbrook have their value as receivers, addai isn't a 25 carry guy, jax is on the same crap offense he was on last year, and lewis is right where he figured to be.

are you saying you think westbrook is a bust as a first round pick?

 

[-baller]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

yeah, omg colston, johnson, moss, holt, edwards..........

 

[[scooter]]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

yeah, omg colston, johnson, moss, holt, edwards..........

 

[Andy Herron]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

yeah, omg colston, johnson, moss, holt, edwards..........

You go your way, I'll go mine.I drafted (not in order) Owens, Marshall, Chambers, R. Bush, T. Jones, F. Taylor, F. Jones, and TE Scheffler.Along with QB Romo.Worked for me. I'm the only 3-0 team left in a 12-team (FBGs staff) league.ETA: And the only team averaging more than 200 points per game. Not even close.

 

[gianmarco]

dude, you're looking at 3 weeks.I think opponents and injury might have something to do w/it.who thought bush was going to average 100 yds/game on the ground??bush and westbrook have their value as receivers, addai isn't a 25 carry guy, jax is on the same crap offense he was on last year, and lewis is right where he figured to be.are you saying you think westbrook is a bust as a first round pick?

I know it's 3 weeks. I know there is PLENTY of time left and these #'s are likely to go up. But they are still pretty craptastic #'s. The bottom line is that about HALF of 2008 1st round picks are in the bottom 10 in rushing yds/game as a team after 3 weeks. I'm not saying Westbrook is a bust at all. His and Reggie's fantasy points speak for themselves. Lynch has also been pretty successful. I'm simply saying that after looking at those #'s, I would have expected it to be populated with teams like Seattle (no WR's, terrible O-line, crappy RB's), Chicago (horrendous offense, terrible O-line, rookie RB), Houston (falling behind, RBBC with no one special, supposed big passing offense), Atlanta (horrible team, bad O-line, rookie QB, should be playing from behind), Miami, TB, etc. Would seem THOSE teams with below average situations and/or RB's should be at the bottom of the list and instead it's headlined by blue-chippers.It will surely change, just interesting to note. No need to jump on anyone as I'm not suggesting these guys are busts as 1st round picks or that these #'s will remain the same after 16 weeks. If you notice, the title says "interesting tidbit", not "Look at all these 1st round busts!!!!" Take a deep breath.

 

[shredhead]

of the 10 teams listed, None of them (with the exception of the Chargers) were expected to be power running teams. Honestly, SD is the only one on the list that surprises me in the least. Even they aren't too much of a surprise given their start to the season (pretty decent Panther D and Denver getting a big early lead forcing them to throw) Of the others, Everyone who drafted Westy and Reggie knew what they were getting, and frankly haven't been disappointed so far. I'm sure Lynch owners aren't complaining either. People who drafted Jackson knew the risks of drafting a RB from a crappy team. Addai owners knew that Indy is a pass first team. Kevin Smith is a rookie on a crappy team, no surprise there. Lewis and Jones are both older vets, servicable at times, but far from first rounders. Perry is a first year starter on a bad team.

I'm not sure what kind of discussion you were looking for, but nobody should be surprised at this list at all. The Bills, Lynch, are within 1 yard, so it's kind of mute. Tomlinson has suffered from turf toe. I doubt the Chargers or Bills will be averaging less than 100 yds/game 3 weeks from now. I would also suspect that teams like Atlanta and Baltimore regress back towards the mean within a few weeks.

 

[-baller]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

yeah, omg colston, johnson, moss, holt, edwards..........

You go your way, I'll go mine.I drafted (not in order) Owens, Marshall, Chambers, R. Bush, T. Jones, F. Taylor, F. Jones, and TE Scheffler.Along with QB Romo.Worked for me. I'm the only 3-0 team left in a 12-team (FBGs staff) league.

turned this thread into a 'look who's on my team' in only 6 posts.over/under, was 3, though, and I took the under.

 

[Andy Herron]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

yeah, omg colston, johnson, moss, holt, edwards..........

You go your way, I'll go mine.I drafted (not in order) Owens, Marshall, Chambers, R. Bush, T. Jones, F. Taylor, F. Jones, and TE Scheffler.Along with QB Romo.Worked for me. I'm the only 3-0 team left in a 12-team (FBGs staff) league.

turned this thread into a 'look who's on my team' in only 6 posts.over/under, was 3, though, and I took the under.

Simply proving my point.Gotta play the league, don't let the league play you.ETA: There's a reason that there are owners out there today asking themselves "why did I draft (all of) these RBs, I need receivers."

 

[Bri]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

and Randy would have been who they picked so how is that a good idea?

 

[Bri]

So, what's going on?

Generally, poor Oline play. Also a bit of injuries.

 

[Andy Herron]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

and Randy would have been who they picked so how is that a good idea?

Who?Who picked Randy?He certainly wasn't at the top of my list.

 

[[scooter]]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

and Randy would have been who they picked so how is that a good idea?

Who?Who picked Randy?He certainly wasn't at the top of my list.

Of course not. You know in advance exactly which WRs are going to stay healthy and play on winning teams.

 

[Bri]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

and Randy would have been who they picked so how is that a good idea?

Who?Who picked Randy?He certainly wasn't at the top of my list.

yeah I'm going to waste my time looking for posts where you said Colston, Randy, Chad, Santonio, Holt, and Braylon were quality players just so I can reply to this

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

lol at the haters. good and very interesting list.

 

[kaa]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.

RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

XThe flaw is that there are a TON of VERY viable WR sleepers to be had late in the draft every year.

Its still hard to find a sleeper RB.

The proper approach is to take more shots on RBs early.

 

[billjohnson]

of the 10 teams listed, None of them (with the exception of the Chargers) were expected to be power running teams. Honestly, SD is the only one on the list that surprises me in the least. Even they aren't too much of a surprise given their start to the season (pretty decent Panther D and Denver getting a big early lead forcing them to throw) Of the others, Everyone who drafted Westy and Reggie knew what they were getting, and frankly haven't been disappointed so far. I'm sure Lynch owners aren't complaining either. People who drafted Jackson knew the risks of drafting a RB from a crappy team. Addai owners knew that Indy is a pass first team. Kevin Smith is a rookie on a crappy team, no surprise there. Lewis and Jones are both older vets, servicable at times, but far from first rounders. Perry is a first year starter on a bad team. I'm not sure what kind of discussion you were looking for, but nobody should be surprised at this list at all. The Bills, Lynch, are within 1 yard, so it's kind of mute. Tomlinson has suffered from turf toe. I doubt the Chargers or Bills will be averaging less than 100 yds/game 3 weeks from now. I would also suspect that teams like Atlanta and Baltimore regress back towards the mean within a few weeks.

You mean..."so it's kind of MOOT". I agree.

 

[simey]

This is exactly why I've been preaching to anybody who would listen for the last two years that you want to focus on WRs early in your draft.RBs are fast becoming a dime-a-dozen. It's a crap shoot.

and Randy would have been who they picked so how is that a good idea?

Who?Who picked Randy?He certainly wasn't at the top of my list.

The staff you work for had him ranked very high along with Colston, Edwards, A. Johnson, Chad Johnson, TJ. Housh, etc. All of those WR's and some other highly ranked WR's, have gotten off to bad starts. They were WR's people focused on early in drafts just as you are suggesting people should have done. Perhaps you would be able to understand what some are saying better, if you check your ego at the door before entering.

 

[-baller]

The staff you work for had him ranked very high along with Colston, Edwards, A. Johnson, Chad Johnson, TJ. Housh, etc. All of those WR's and some other highly ranked WR's, have gotten off to bad starts. They were WR's people focused on early in drafts just as you are suggesting people should have done. Perhaps you would be able to understand what some are saying better, if you check your ego at the door before entering.

ah, but you see -- this is how andy is PWNING HIS LEAGUE!he probably throws out fbg rankings, and so does very well against the people who make them.I think all the real sharks could see that brady injury coming a mile away.

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I'm 3-0 in the only staff league that matters, FESL ALPHA

Here's my lineup:

Fighter of the Night Man - Cecil Lammey

Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted

Edwards, Trent BUF QB 52.35 6 12.08

Romo, Tony DAL QB 74.90 10 2.08

Barber, Marion DAL RB 80.20 10 1.05

Booker, Lorenzo PHI RB 7.30 7 15.05

Bradshaw, Ahmad NYG RB 23.70 4 16.08

Charles, Jamaal KCC RB 17.80 6 FA

Felton, Jerome DET RB 1.30 4 20.08

Hightower, Tim ARI RB 32.90 7 11.05

James, Edgerrin ARI RB 32.30 7 4.08

Taylor, Fred JAC RB (P) 28.10 7 7.05

Ward, Derrick NYG RB 29.20 4 13.10

Hardy, James BUF WR 9.20 6 17.05

Johnson, Bryant SFO WR 31.10 9 8.08

Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 76.10 8 3.05

Moss, Santana WAS WR 72.30 10 6.08

Muhammad, M CAR WR 28.00 9 10.08

White, Roddy ATL WR 45.40 7 5.05

Lee, Donald GBP TE 17.80 8 13.05

Miller, Zach OAK TE 11.80 5 9.05

Crosby, Mason GBP PK 29.00 8 18.08

Cowboys, Dallas DAL Def 26.00 10 14.08

Eagles, Phi PHI Def 54.00 7 19.05

I went with the "safest" RB to draft MBIII. I was happy to get him at 5, and I turned around and got Romo in the 2nd.

Kaa hit the nail on the head earlier in this thread, take shots on your RBs early because there's plenty of WR talent out there late.

and to get back on topic, shredhead was all over this when he stated that the only surprise on this list is SD.

And you know as Fighter of The Night Man, I HAD to get Philly's D

 

[billjohnson]

I am in two leagues (one being a start 2 QB)....and drafted 5 running backs with my first six picks. Barber, Lynch, ADP, MJD, and Turner (Romo was QB).

Currently am 6-0.

Runing backs are alive and well. They are still the key to fantasy success.

 

[-baller]

6-0 >> 3-0

running backs win.

 

[[scooter]]

I'm 3-0 in the only staff league that matters, FESL ALPHA

What's Andy's record in that league?

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

The Bills, Lynch, are within 1 yard, so it's kind of mute.

Emmitt, is that you?

 

[Cecil Lammey]

I'm 3-0 in the only staff league that matters, FESL ALPHA

What's Andy's record in that league?

he's in another staff league. FESL Alpha is the top dog.

 

[Mr. Brownstone]

The Bills, Lynch, are within 1 yard, so it's kind of mute.

Emmitt, is that you?