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Is AC/DC punk? (1 Viewer)

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I'm watching this youtube video of an interview with Bon Scott and they talk about how their rise coincided with punk. Does the punk community give credit to AC/DC?

 
Fundamentally rooted in the blues and can actually use the instruments to carry a tune, I'm with FUJB, bigly

 
Probably not. A potentially better question is whether or not Motorhead is punk.

 
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The group punk needs to give credit to, and most did, was Iggy and the Stooges. 

First album came out in 1969, 7 years before Sex Pistols, Clash, Ramones.

Iggy had perfected and grown bored with punk before anyone else even got started.  

 
No.  AC/DC is a straight ahead blues rock band heavily influenced by Chuck Berry. Angus' solos capture the greatness of Berry. 

 
Can someone define "punk" for me? I don't mean just listing bands or copping out by using "I know it when I hear it". I want to know what defines punk musically.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
Can someone define "punk" for me? I don't mean just listing bands or copping out by using "I know it when I hear it". I want to know what defines punk musically.
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music that spits at stuff. metal is an outgrowth of angry but it is a sublimation of anger, rhythms crafted for someone to feel the poundings of their inner caveman. it's actually meant to comfort, not enrage. punk is just pissed. i've thought about this a lot recently because of a project i'm working on which i outlined here and i concluded punk is the spewing of anger for attention and the musical content is secondary to the act, though the musical chops of those who want to spit before they learn how to play their instruments give punk much of its edge and primitive qualities.

as for AC/DC, angus is a punk in a party band

 
wikkidpissah said:
music that spits at stuff. metal is an outgrowth of angry but it is a sublimation of anger, rhythms crafted for someone to feel the poundings of their inner caveman. it's actually meant to comfort, not enrage. punk is just pissed. i've thought about this a lot recently because of a project i'm working on which i outlined here and i concluded punk is the spewing of anger for attention and the musical content is secondary to the act, though the musical chops of those who want to spit before they learn how to play their instruments give punk much of its edge and primitive qualities.

as for AC/DC, angus is a punk in a party band
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So Chuck Berry is a punk rocker? Or do we hold the fact that - while spitting in the face of every white person who ever dissed him in just about every song he ever wrote and in the 1950s no less - he could actually play an instrument against him?

I'm not trying to be pedantic (or at least, no more pedantic than I usually am), but I am endlessly fascinated by borders people set - especially when it comes to music.

 
Uruk-Hai said:
So Chuck Berry is a punk rocker? Or do we hold the fact that - while spitting in the face of every white person who ever dissed him in just about every song he ever wrote and in the 1950s no less - he could actually play an instrument against him?

I'm not trying to be pedantic (or at least, no more pedantic than I usually am), but I am endlessly fascinated by borders people set - especially when it comes to music.
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no - his music did the spitting for him. punks spit anger for love & attention, the music is incidental

ETA: aaaand, punk is the music of spoiled people, folks who'll hungrily mewl in a puppypile of like kinds before doing an honest day's work

 
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You have to imagine what the rock & roll scene was like in 1976. It was very stagnated. You had a mixture of bloated 1960s holdovers, pop-oriented arena rock, and laid-back California singer-songwriter "rock". AC/DC was a giant middle finger to all of that. They were so far ahead of their time that their first 2 albums didn't even get released in America. Think about that -- "It's A Long Way To The Top," "T.N.T.", "The Jack", "Soul Stripper", etc. (which have all become staples of classic rock radio) were virtually unknown for YEARS. When "High Voltage" was finally released in America, Rolling Stone called it "an all-time low for the hard rock genre".

But the punks recognized the energy and the attitude behind the music, and they gave credit where credit was due.

 
wikkidpissah said:
no - his music did the spitting for him. punks spit anger for love & attention, the music is incidental

ETA: aaaand, punk is the music of spoiled people, folks who'll hungrily mewl in a puppypile of like kinds before doing an honest day's work
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Aah, poseurs.Gotcha. 

On another note, I'd suggest a closer reading of Berry's lyrics. It's amazing how subversive they are. He makes John Lydon look like Laura Ingalls Wilder.

 
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