The Belichick Saga (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this."

This is my only issue:

Thinking he lost his marbles because she shut down an interview?

What do you call it when someone throws out a diagnosis like that based on nothing Belichick had said, but on a single action by his girlfriend?

Ignorant? Irresponsible? Gossipy?

This is the sleazy story it is because of the age difference, nothing more. If she was 60 years old, and shut down the interview, there would not be one word about Bill losing his mind.

Nope. His friends are worried. Peter King came out of hiding to comment. She has $8M in real estate she didn’t have before she met him. Something isn’t right. And you’re damn right it had something to do with age. You can’t unsee life, bro. That sounds nice, but reality intrudes harshly.

 

[rockaction]

4) Finally, you suggested earlier that we check out a bunch of Twitter posts from a guy I don’t know (@redteeze?) who is chronicling this story noting that the posts described both the hilarious and disgusting nature of the story. This is precisely why I curate my Twitter feed to avoid going down the rabbit hole with salacious/disgusting/disheartening stories. Just harshes my calm, man.

That was about Biden and his dementia. Different story about minding your own business and why and when that doesn’t fly. You had no choice but to notice Joe wasn’t right and you had to fight to make that assertion. Public figure? Fair game.

Oh yeah, I no longer have any interest in consuming social media on political topics. Totally respect that you feel otherwise.

I don’t blame you. They estimate 70% of Twitter/X is bots and farms both foreign and domestic. That said, that particular thread is illuminating about media and how they handled that situation. Total gaslighting everybody who wondered what was up. Disgraceful.

 

[rockaction]

3) That said, I don’t think people should be shamed (or accused of virtue signaling) for not caring about the story, or expressing their opinion about it being no one’s business. That is also a perfectly valid stance.

I’m not shaming people who don’t care. They can write that they don’t care until the cows come home. Haven’t said a thing about that. They’re more than welcome to lament or express that view without scolding everybody else.

People that tell people to mind their own business or that they’ve “chosen” to hear the story are on a wildly different trip. That’s where the imposition comes in and I resent it.

Before your post about virtue signaling, I think the only person who said anything close to “mind your own business” was @Andy Dufresne, who observed that the world would be a better place if people minded their own business.

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

massraider was the other object of it and I only got re-involved when I heard this was by “choice” that I’d heard about it. It’s all innocuous, but I see this more and more.

Here’s a huge story. “Why do you care? Mind your own business! It’s not happening!”

That’s a really troublesome attitude and you have to fight all three of those every damn time. It’s a tactic to gaslight like that now.

There’s a joke about that line of thought.

You make an observation

You hear “that’s not happening”
Then you hear “that’s happening, but it’s not a big deal”
Then it’s “it’s happening and that’s actually a good thing”
Then it’s “Why do you care about the thing that’s happening? You freaking out about it is the problem!”

 

[beer 30]

Peace.

What happened to this?

 

[rockaction]

Peace.

What happened to this?

Yep. Drawn back in by Jayrod, who couldn’t let something from a month ago die even with an apology already in hand.

Figure I’d defend my eminently defendable position.

 

[rockaction]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

 

[bagger]

I don’t get why anybody cares. She’s a consenting adult. He’s the same age as like 4 consenting adults put together. He’s getting what he wants she’s getting what she wants I just do not see why people care.

If there is concern about cognitive decline we’ll find out real soon. He’s coaching a pretty major college football program! You can’t really hide that sort of thing in front of that many people.

This would be my concern. But unless it's elder abuse, it's just creepy. Avoid.

My goal is to be elderly abused by a hot 24 year old when I am 74.

 

[rockaction]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

You're being a real jerk about this and I just don't get it.

 

[rockaction]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

You're being a real jerk about this and I just don't get it.

I don’t know. I wrote that dispassionately. You might want to consider your own fallibility and station before you tell others how to behave. I honestly think instead of lecturing other people on what is appropriate for conversation you ought to reflect on areas you could improve upon.

Nobody made you come in and comment on the topic.

Consider it not being a jerk but me offering you an opportunity for self-reflection about being judgmental in a sense where I’m not asking you to be a relativist, but in a sense where you use discretion about when to talk about morality and what the reality of the situation is when you do.

I could put this a million different ******* ways. I’m actually being nice.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

You're being a real jerk about this and I just don't get it.

I don’t know. I wrote that dispassionately. You might want to consider your own fallibility and station before you tell others how to behave. I honestly think instead of lecturing other people on what is appropriate for conversation you ought to reflect on areas you could improve upon.

Nobody made you come in and comment on the topic.

Wait. Who's doing the lecturing?

 

[rockaction]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

You're being a real jerk about this and I just don't get it.

I don’t know. I wrote that dispassionately. You might want to consider your own fallibility and station before you tell others how to behave. I honestly think instead of lecturing other people on what is appropriate for conversation you ought to reflect on areas you could improve upon.

Nobody made you come in and comment on the topic.

Wait. Who's doing the lecturing?

Goose/gander

 

[Tin Cup]

I see another thread has been derailed by the “let’s debate the rest of the internet, argue semantics, triple down, and otherwise make it about me” wing of the FFA.

 

[rockaction]

I see another thread has been derailed by the “let’s debate the rest of the internet, argue semantics, triple down, and otherwise make it about me” wing of the FFA.

That’s an interesting take and a weird archetype. Sounds specific. I don’t think you’re remotely close but you have every right to your erroneous and flawed opinion.

 

[rockaction]

There were no semantics discussed. I suggest you crack a dictionary.

 

[Mrs. Rannous]

So people are seeking out non traditional media sources and finding stuff like this on it, and then blaming traditional news sources for the stuff they found elsewhere.

Thank you.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Decaf rock…decar

 

[FBG Moderator]

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.

Fair enough and I can see that. It was directed at mass and Andy, two people I like, but who I think are wrong in this case.

"East is east and west is west and ne'er the twain shall meet" on this one.

Yeah, I get it but people scolding people about that which is shoved in their face isn’t going to fly with me. It’s not a good argument and you have no moral authority or high ground from which to make it other than your own fallible certitude and an authority nobody gave you.

You're being a real jerk about this and I just don't get it.

I don’t know. I wrote that dispassionately. You might want to consider your own fallibility and station before you tell others how to behave. I honestly think instead of lecturing other people on what is appropriate for conversation you ought to reflect on areas you could improve upon.

Nobody made you come in and comment on the topic.

Wait. Who's doing the lecturing?

Agreed. Everyone please drop this back and forth and move on please. People have said their peace.

 

[Max Power]

Do you think Belichick rips his own holes in shirts or gets it professionally done?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Do you think Belichick rips his own holes in shirts or gets it professionally done?

Takes them to Nick the Greek, two week turn time to get them just right

 

[trogg78]

Do you think Belichick rips his own holes in shirts or gets it professionally done?

I imagine him doing a lot of Incredible Hulk/Hulk Hogan role play.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I for one think the world world be a whole lot better off if everyone* would mind their own ****ing business.

*"Everyone" meaning those to who will never know the participants involved. If friends think something needs to be done they should do it. In the words of Herb Brooks, "You worry about your own game. There's plenty there to keep you busy."

How can people mind their own business when Belichick AND HIS G/F pop up in a Super Bowl Dunkin' Donuts ad with Ben Affleck?
That's kinda thrusting it in peoples' faces...

It's a FF website and BB is a HC from the NFL with over 300 wins, second only to Don Shula
You might understand how people are still minding their own business and hit in the face with this simultaneously

 

[belljr]

I seem to vaguely recall a mermaid picture

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I seem to vaguely recall a mermaid picture

Halloween costume pic.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I for one think the world world be a whole lot better off if everyone* would mind their own ****ing business.

*"Everyone" meaning those to who will never know the participants involved. If friends think something needs to be done they should do it. In the words of Herb Brooks, "You worry about your own game. There's plenty there to keep you busy."

How can people mind their own business when Belichick AND HIS G/F pop up in a Super Bowl Dunkin' Donuts ad with Ben Affleck?
That's kinda thrust it in peoples' faces...

It's a FF website and BB is a HC from the NFL with over 300 wins, second only to Don Shula
You might understand how people are still minding their own business and hit in the face with this simultaneously

I guess ignore him like he's Ben Affleck?

 

[belljr]

I have zero recollection of a commercial lol

That's how in tune I am!?!!@!##!

 

[Dr_Zaius]

I have zero recollection of a commercial lol

That's how in tune I am!?!!@!##!

I remember the commercial because it was super annoying, but I don't remember Bill in it and certainly wouldn't remember whether the girlfriend was in it or not. I've read zero media on the BB saga, but between this thread and some people in real life talking about it I think I get the gist.

 

[SofaKings]

Wait, MoP is lecturing people on internet usage? it's like 2008 all over again. Can't say I've missed it.

 

[Max Power]

I seem to vaguely recall a mermaid picture

Halloween costume pic.

Its a really bad Halloween costume. How does she walk around? Or does Bill carry her everywhere?

 

[Max Power]

I have zero recollection of a commercial lol

That's how in tune I am!?!!@!##!

https://people.com/thmb.jpg

He almost smiled.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Wait, MoP is lecturing people on internet usage? it's like 2008 all over again. Can't say I've missed it.

I appreciate the shout out but where did I lecture on the usage of the internet?
2 posts, one of them an extended joke and the 2nd was written to @Andy Dufresne and just an echo of what Rock was discussing up top

"Art of Winning", might as well have just called it Art of the Deal Pt II...no wonder he was yelling at CBS
We here at the Ministry have been working on some new book titles for Bill Belichick, would you all like to see some of the titles we've come up with?

"Tight Ends - Recipes for Winning"
'Wide Banana - The Secret of my Success"
"How to take the air out of the room and not your game balls"

And so many more...
I got a thumbs up from you a couple months back so I'll assume the best here

 

[Boston]

I usually could care less about this type of stuff but because I am a Pats fan I find this fascinating (talk radio and Barstool have been on it for awhile around here)…the fact she is 24 and he is 73 grosses me out but to each his own and it’s nothing that hasn’t happened before…it’s the fact that a guy who has dedicated his career to limiting distractions is now lobbing distraction grenades into his work…whether it was her running around practice with her boots, showing up at the Hall-of-Fame ceremony with his rings and her outfit, asking UNC to copy her on emails, butting into Hard Knocks or dominating that interview I just can’t believe this is where BB is at right now…there has never been a hint of this before (at least publicly)…It just goes against everything we have ever seen from him in the past…the fact it is a 24 year old former cheerleader from Bridgewater State who suddenly has 8 mil in real estate makes this comical…this really has turned into a caricature…I fully expected this from Bob Kraft but no way from BB…this UNC season is going to be pure entertainment.

 

[Gatorade]

I don’t get why anybody cares. She’s a consenting adult. He’s the same age as like 4 consenting adults put together. He’s getting what he wants she’s getting what she wants I just do not see why people care.

If there is concern about cognitive decline we’ll find out real soon. He’s coaching a pretty major college football program! You can’t really hide that sort of thing in front of that many people.

This would be my concern. But unless it's elder abuse, it's just creepy. Avoid.

My goal is to be elderly abused by a hot 24 year old when I am 74.

Sounds like my neighbor. He is 87 and his live-in is in her 40s. I don't think he gets much action though. But he does eat good and has a clean house.

 

[massraider]

Nope. His friends are worried. Peter King came out of hiding to comment. She has $8M in real estate she didn’t have before she met him. Something isn’t right. And you’re damn right it had something to do with age. You can’t unsee life, bro. That sounds nice, but reality intrudes harshly.

I agree, you can't unsee life. In the real world that I have been witness to, I have seen a bunch of old dudes with money happily spending it on a trophy. Getting led around by the nose, with a smile on their face. There are transactional relationships all around us, and more today than ever before. Among a lot of 20-something women I know, it's not even taboo or embarrassing to admit.

You tell me she's a gold digger, or a sugar baby? I'm ready to believe.

It's a rather dramatic jump to, this one losing his mind, and the other may be taking criminal advantage of him.

I am pretty sure we are a few months removed from people gushing about Belichick's insightful comments on live TV during Monday Night Football. He's running a major college football program. His girlfriend insisting on being on emails is annoying, not sign of his cognitive decline.

My man is not losing his mind. He's whipped. That's it.

 

[Dr_Zaius]

My man is not losing his mind. He's whipped. That's it.

You're probably right, but there's a gray area in between that's at least a possibility. One of my wife's relatives, kind of a clueless socially awkward type, married an extremely gregarious and outwardly charming lady. The age gap wasn't huge, but it was always a strange relationship and very clear she controlled everything. It got much more disturbing eventually when it turned out that while he was working multiple jobs to provide all of their financial support (and doing most of the parenting of their child), she spent her time training for triathlons and cheating on him. So while he maybe would have been happy with a quite uneven marriage, in the end he wasn't even getting that and the whole thing fell apart. This was a smart dude, too, so it makes you wonder about what's really going on in some of these relationships. Of course, it's almost impossible for anybody on this board to know what's actually happening in Bill's case.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

"This is fine"

 

[fatness]

Belichick's book is out today, so that should keep him firmly in the news.

 

[Tin Cup]

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

I’m going to predict Belichick doesn’t coach a game for North Carolina.

 

[MTskibum]

This thread has a lot of posts in it. I guess a lot of people care about celebrities personal lives.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

I’m going to predict Belichick doesn’t coach a game for North Carolina.

Interesting. What % chance do you think it is that he actually doesn't coach a game for UNC?

 

[Joe Bryant]

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

In Jeff Benedict's excellent book The Dynasty, one of the more remarkable things I remember was then Patriots coach Bill Parcells telling his boss that his wife couldn't fly on the team plane. Parcells had a strict "no women on the plane" rule. Seemed crazy. But it's how it was.

I don't know how Belichick thought of that but I wonder if that impacts what Belichick thinks about not having his girlfriend at the UNC facility.

 

[Max Power]

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

Dave Portnoy spilled the beans on a podcast that the family member who is vocally outraged with Jordon is Bill's daughter-in-law who doesn't like her and believes she is milking the family's wealth from Bill.

 

[The Longtime Lurker]

She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program

UNC has no authority over her. None.

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

 

[Boston]

Probably makes sense for Jordan to just concentrate on her budding real estate empire…it’s obvious she is very talented in that field and with more focus and hard work the sky is the limit for this young entrepreneur.

 

[rockaction]

This thread has a lot of posts in it. I guess a lot of people care about celebrities personal lives.

I think if you’d read the thread (at all) and seen the moderator say something then you’d know that this was duly covered and answered for because people like me were totally irritated with stuff like this. Don’t need your imprimatur nor judgment and this story has obviously taken on very newsworthy dimensions, thank you very much.

 

[rockaction]

Yeah, I feel somewhat vindicated now. This happens often on the internet and has really given me pause that this format is at all conducive to any positive effects on my health, sanity, and well-being.

Wait . . . !

 

[rockaction]

This was as stupid as the thread below wound up being. See me and IK at about Page 3 and just read quietly.

Thread 'Disney self-government status'
https://forums.footballguys.com/threads/disney-self-government-status.803922/

It really starts cooking at about Page Five.

 

[kupcho1]

She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program

UNC has no authority over her. None.

Now being reported she is banned from UNC football facility.

Wow. I stand corrected, UNC really brought the hammer down. This will probably break her. I can't see her behaving exactly the same way after this severe punishment.
She's in her lane for sure now.

The post above was brought to you be the letter S, for sarcasm.