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The Belichick Saga (9 Viewers)
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rockaction
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Probably not a great move and sort of “I told you so-ish” (I just did that also) to pull receipts just yet but this would seem significant, no?
I don’t want to get embroiled in this premise because my premise was very limited, but this would seem like a huge step in bringing what I think (and I’m not interested in arguing because it simply wasn’t my point) is a bilk job and borderline theft to a head in the grand scheme of things. Maybe not. Maybe things just proceed normally from here. Strains credulity.
Wow. I stand corrected, UNC really brought the hammer down. This will probably break her. I can't see her behaving exactly the same way after this severe punishment.
She's in her lane for sure now.
The post above was brought to you be the letter S, for sarcasm.
Probably not a great move and sort of “I told you so-ish” (I just did that also) to pull receipts just yet but this would seem significant, no?
I don’t want to get embroiled in this premise because my premise was very limited, but this would seem like a huge step in bringing what I think (and I’m not interested in arguing because it simply wasn’t my point) is a bilk job and borderline theft to a head in the grand scheme of things. Maybe not. Maybe things just proceed normally from here. Strains credulity.
rockaction
Footballguy
Welp. This got better. LOL.
The Longtime Lurker
Footballguy
Wow. I stand corrected, UNC really brought the hammer down. This will probably break her. I can't see her behaving exactly the same way after this severe punishment.
She's in her lane for sure now.
The post above was brought to you be the letter S, for sarcasm.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It’s probably not that likely at this point, to be honest, but wouldn’t be shocked if he just walks away and passes the torch to his son.I’m going to predict Belichick doesn’t coach a game for North Carolina.
Interesting. What % chance do you think it is that he actually doesn't coach a game for UNC?
kupcho1
Footballguy
Is the UNC football coach position some sort of monarchical arrangement? If he walks, I don't think they'd want his son very much, but I could be mistaken.
MTskibum
Footballguy
You read alot into my post. I did not read any of this thread.
I doubt I have any imprimatur.
Max Power
Footballguy
Word is Bill got a clause in his UNC contract that guarantees Steve Belichick would be his successor at UNC.
It’s probably not that likely at this point, to be honest, but wouldn’t be shocked if he just walks away and passes the torch to his son.I’m going to predict Belichick doesn’t coach a game for North Carolina.
Interesting. What % chance do you think it is that he actually doesn't coach a game for UNC?
Thanks. Also, if he's not there, do you think it will be because of UNC firing him or him walking away.
I have a good friend who thinks he'll walk away.
I don't have any insight and I may be interpreting Belichick all wrong, but the Old School Footballguys like him I know put a huge negative weight on quitting. I'd be floored if he quits. But stranger things have happened.
fatness
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I would love to believe your comment was as neutral as could be interpreted. That would be an awfully effective way to defuse any sort of conflict or any tension.
I’m also not stupid enough to ignore the effort, tone, and framing of your post.
Imprimatur is any sanction, generally reserved for Catholicism, but it works as a general term. Everyone has agency to grant their imprimatur. So you have it, indeed.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
The latest Pablo Torres Finds Out podcast on this has some new reporting. It certainly seems that Jordon was maybe 19 when she met Bill on the flight and is maybe trying to fudge about her age by a year.
And I certainly think it's an newsworthy subject. Yes, the relationship is perfectly legal. But there's nothing wrong with noting that it feels kind of mutually predatory and icky, even if both BIll and Jordon seem to know what's up.
And I certainly think it's an newsworthy subject. Yes, the relationship is perfectly legal. But there's nothing wrong with noting that it feels kind of mutually predatory and icky, even if both BIll and Jordon seem to know what's up.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'm not sure BB would walk away unless he had a reason to move on to something else. There aren't any NFL head coaching positions currently available, and it's debatable whether he would be a candidate for (or want) one of them if one popped up (Would depend on the specific team).
Big picture, he doesn't need the money. He's getting $10M a year to coach at UNC. Sure, he got paid a ton by NE last year, but I'm guessing Bill made millions from his various media gigs last year on top of that. Multiple times over the years, when Bill was asked in interviews what he would do if he wasn't coaching at the NFL level, he mentioned he wanted to coach college lacrosse. To me, it sounded like he had a sincere interest in wanting to coach at the college level and not have to deal with the entitlement issues of guys at the pro level.
For anyone that thinks Bill would voluntarily walk away from UNC, I'd be interested to hear the motivation that would prompt him to move on before he coached a game. IMO, he would have to have another NFL head coaching gig. If not, why would he leave on his own accord?
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
One of the weird little things coming out is that Bill doesn't really have a media/pr guy anymore. His longtime rep took a role at Boston College. So, other than Jordon, Bill's "team" is apparently Matt Patricia, Josh McDaniels, and Mike Lombardi. Three guys who really couldn't make it as football guys without bootlicking Belichick and who are never going to tell him anything he doesn't want to hear,
MTskibum
Footballguy
Honestly, you read WAY too much into my post and then my joke landed flat in 2nd post.
Continue on
Clip of Bill's response
www.youtube.com
The Wolf Of Wall Street - I'm Not Leaving
Wolf of wall street scene where he doesn't want to leave the company.I do not claim ownership of this clip or video. All rights go to the original owner.
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Sounds like Pablo Found Out.
Not surprised he's doubling down.
Journalist Pablo Finds Out is my favorite part of this story.
To add, I know who he is. Ex ESPN Harvard grads are not immune to gossip rag behavior on social media in 2025. It's the way of the world.
He's obviously saying he wasn't wrong. But maybe wrong is too strong a word. Those unnamed sources are just so tricky to interpret correctly sometimes. You'd think they'd teach that at Harvard.
Not surprised he's doubling down.
Journalist Pablo Finds Out is my favorite part of this story.
To add, I know who he is. Ex ESPN Harvard grads are not immune to gossip rag behavior on social media in 2025. It's the way of the world.
He's obviously saying he wasn't wrong. But maybe wrong is too strong a word. Those unnamed sources are just so tricky to interpret correctly sometimes. You'd think they'd teach that at Harvard.
FWIW, from my Ohio State buddy:
General Malaise
Footballguy
Jerry Van Dyke and Bill Fagerbakke weren't available so he found the next best thing.
rockaction
Footballguy
Honestly, you read WAY too much into my post and then my joke landed flat in 2nd post.
Continue on
Sure thing, brother. Catch me in a better topic on a better day. My apologies if I haven’t given you enough grace, leeway, or understanding.
Eta* no sarcasm there
massraider
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I believe Josh's brother Ben is the one on BB's staff at UNC as passing game coordinator. Josh is back with NE, and I don't see him being able to do much with Bill while being the OC for the Pats.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Apparently there is an understanding that his son will succeed him as HC at North Carolina so I'm basing it on that, But carry on...
fatness
Footballguy
Neither is the FFA. Right now Jordon Hudson is catching up to the new Pope in "replies".
fatness
Footballguy
Is there any solid link to this? It keeps getting mentioned. Thank you.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I've read it a few times when he was first hired.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I don't mean they are on his coaching staff (though I guess Lombardi is the "GM" of the UNC program, whatever the hell that means). They're his "team" in regard to his media "empire." Patricia and Lombardi are frequent co-hosts of his YouTube stuff. He apparently has a daily early morning call with all three of them to kind of go over planning of what he's going to do. And it's weird, because even if these guys were great football coaches and GMs, they don't have any great expertise in managing the image of a public figure. So Jordon Hudson has kind of stepped into that power vacuum. Which has allowed her to try to use Bill's media opportunities to kind of "launch" them as a public couple (by getting herself thrown into the Dunkin commercial and apparently trying to do the same with another commercial).
Max Power
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, Doc. Don’t bother. This is what certain people do when they want to obstruct the substantive interest or claims. They run around asking for sources and links. Should we always link when doing journalism? Yes. Should we let it inhibit our discussions? No. It’s often a time suck and a burden shift so the person can bother you and pester you unabated. Unfortunately, it’s a sea lion tactic also. It retains an air of respectability. Personally I think it makes it easier for real journalists to elide what should be strict requirements because now everybody can relate to a disingenuous tactic.
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Boston
Footballguy
Don’t know how I missed it but just realized her name is Jordon and not Jordan…I hear guys on Talk Radio say Jor-DON but I thought they were just screwing around…the fact that is her actual name is so on-brand for this story…if this were a Netflix series we are one episode away from finding out Don Shula is still alive and Jor-DON is his diabolical Granddaughter.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think that no matter what contractual agreement Bill has with UNC, the odds that he'd be able to enforce an agreement to make his son the next head coach if he were to walk away after never coaching a game are remote.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That seems good enough. Plenty of blurbs like that when the hire was first announced. It seemed like a simple enough thing to search for if some one was curious enough to comment.
rockaction
Footballguy
He didn't and doesn't care. I know I'm making friends today, but the person that asked you does **** like that all the time and I've dealt with him often.
Two ****ing seconds to do a Google search. But asking you does two things. It shifts the burden of production (in the ignorant reader's mind) to you and wastes your time and effort while he passively-aggressively doubts your claim and says so without having the balls to actually say so. If people backed up "source" requests with what they really thought, we'd have more accountability. Indeed, if the person doesn't know and they're interested, saying "I looked and couldn't find it" or something of that nature and "Do you have a ready link or source?" would help defuse about twenty percent of the tensions on the internet.
But dude you're dealing with is a constant sea lion.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, it was a throw away addition to my claim Belichick may walk away. Obviously if he did that they most likely wouldn’t want his son to take over but the truth is at this point it would be too late to start over. Some one on that staff would get promoted even if reluctantly.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
And I don’t really think Bill is walking away - I just see it as a possibility and that in itself would be an oddity.
rockaction
Footballguy
Sea lion
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Max Power
Footballguy
ESPN predicts UNC to finish with a 6-7 record.
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If UNC treads water for a couple years with Bill, I can see them moving on from him if the situation remains a distraction.
How many football games does ESPN project UNC to win in 2025?
There's a ton of hope for the UNC football program ahead of its 2025 season. However, ESPN only has the Tar Heels winning six games.
If UNC treads water for a couple years with Bill, I can see them moving on from him if the situation remains a distraction.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Brings to mind the time Arkansas hired John L. Smith for a season after they had to fire Bobby Petrino. That man was awful but boy, did he provide us some nuggets of entertainment!
I imagine Salamander Steve would provide good YouTube fodder as well.
rockaction
Footballguy
Three more minutes:
A dive into Trouble Cub Enterprises, a holding company owned by Jordon Hudson, which has subsidiaries that just tried to trademark phrases like "Do Your Job" and other such phrases that the Patriots already own the trademark to. Hwarf.
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On promoting Steve Belichick through UNC's social media team:
"Though Steve Belichick is in fact Bill’s son, he should be depicted and represented as his own established, credible entity as opposed to an extension of Bill. It can be easily misinterpreted that Steve is simply benefitting from nepotism but that is not the case. Steve was fortunate to have learned defensive football strategy from the ‘greatest defensive mind’ of all-time. He has earned his position due to his performance and output."
Bill Belichick finalized his coaching staff in March, with Steve listed as defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. Brian Belichick, Bill's youngest son, is coaching the defensive backs and safeties. Baker noted Brian wasn't mentioned in any of the emails.
Hudson also noted in her email that Steve "has the experience of being a COLLEGE defensive coordinator and will bring a plethora of knowledge to the coaching staff" and that emphasizing his resume would "prevent controversy" and "validate" Bill's decision to hire him.
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I think the woman from Slate magazine that called Hudson a "Beli-chick" deserves mention for creativity.
slate.com
A dive into Trouble Cub Enterprises, a holding company owned by Jordon Hudson, which has subsidiaries that just tried to trademark phrases like "Do Your Job" and other such phrases that the Patriots already own the trademark to. Hwarf.
________________________________________________________________________
On promoting Steve Belichick through UNC's social media team:
"Though Steve Belichick is in fact Bill’s son, he should be depicted and represented as his own established, credible entity as opposed to an extension of Bill. It can be easily misinterpreted that Steve is simply benefitting from nepotism but that is not the case. Steve was fortunate to have learned defensive football strategy from the ‘greatest defensive mind’ of all-time. He has earned his position due to his performance and output."
Bill Belichick finalized his coaching staff in March, with Steve listed as defensive coordinator and linebackers coach. Brian Belichick, Bill's youngest son, is coaching the defensive backs and safeties. Baker noted Brian wasn't mentioned in any of the emails.
Hudson also noted in her email that Steve "has the experience of being a COLLEGE defensive coordinator and will bring a plethora of knowledge to the coaching staff" and that emphasizing his resume would "prevent controversy" and "validate" Bill's decision to hire him.
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I think the woman from Slate magazine that called Hudson a "Beli-chick" deserves mention for creativity.
Unfortunately, I Am Obsessed With Bill Belichick’s 24-Year-Old Girlfriend—and You Should Be Too
America didn't know it needed Jordon Hudson, but it did.
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fatness
Footballguy
That's the best I could find too, from back in December while negotiations were still going on and before any agreement was reached. Thanks dude.
Dennis Castro
Footballguy
Man, it’s getting kinda hot in here.
Boston
Footballguy
I heard on the radio (forget who) that BB tried to get a succession plan with Steve as part of his contract but UNC said no.
rockaction
Footballguy
Wow, interesting that got deleted. I'll repost.
This took two seconds.
Just re-posting so that people understand that an iota of curiosity, the use of Google, and a keyboard should lead you right to the story.
This took two seconds.
Bill Belichick, UNC reportedly discussed HC succession plan involving son Steve Belichick
According to The Guardian, the former Patriots head coach wants a guarantee that his son, Steve, would succeed him at UNC, if hired.
www.boston.com
Just re-posting so that people understand that an iota of curiosity, the use of Google, and a keyboard should lead you right to the story.
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Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
I have read that Steve is actually a very good, innovative coach, with excellent communication skills. Yes, he is a nepo-baby, but he is one in the mold of Kyle Shanahan.
This is a bad look for Steve, and seems detrimental to career advancement. If it appears that your father has to ordain your employment, that looks very bad.
She is probably dating Bill Belichick because of a genuine admiration for the amoeba defense and the hybrid 3-4 front.
He is way older than her, but who else is she supposed to date with a similar expertise in disguising defensive looks pre-snap?
Nick Saban is known for employing similar defensive disguises, but he has been married for decades and resides permanently in Alabama, making logistics difficult.
You might think Romeo Crennel would be a good option. Unfortunately, at 78, he's actually older than Belichick, making the age difference even more pronounced.
Mike Vrabel, who learned the amoeba from Belichick as a player, would seem viable. But he is married, rooted firmly in Tennessee, and shows no indication of being available for dating.
Brian Flores effectively used variations of the amoeba defense in Miami and Pittsburgh, but he is occupied with coaching duties in Minnesota and various legal issues, making him unlikely to be free for social commitments at this time.
Dean Pees utilized amoeba concepts extensively with the Ravens and Falcons, but retired to a lake community in Georgia. His repeated retirements and returns from retirement might present stability issues incompatible with a long-term relationship.
Steve Belichick, UNC's current defensive play-caller, might seem like a practical younger alternative. However, dating the son of one's current partner creates problematic conflicts of interest and workplace discomfort.
Given these constraints, it's understandable why she settled on Bill Belichick himself. Though considerably older, he remains the most conveniently available option compatible with her keenest interests.
He is way older than her, but who else is she supposed to date with a similar expertise in disguising defensive looks pre-snap?
Nick Saban is known for employing similar defensive disguises, but he has been married for decades and resides permanently in Alabama, making logistics difficult.
You might think Romeo Crennel would be a good option. Unfortunately, at 78, he's actually older than Belichick, making the age difference even more pronounced.
Mike Vrabel, who learned the amoeba from Belichick as a player, would seem viable. But he is married, rooted firmly in Tennessee, and shows no indication of being available for dating.
Brian Flores effectively used variations of the amoeba defense in Miami and Pittsburgh, but he is occupied with coaching duties in Minnesota and various legal issues, making him unlikely to be free for social commitments at this time.
Dean Pees utilized amoeba concepts extensively with the Ravens and Falcons, but retired to a lake community in Georgia. His repeated retirements and returns from retirement might present stability issues incompatible with a long-term relationship.
Steve Belichick, UNC's current defensive play-caller, might seem like a practical younger alternative. However, dating the son of one's current partner creates problematic conflicts of interest and workplace discomfort.
Given these constraints, it's understandable why she settled on Bill Belichick himself. Though considerably older, he remains the most conveniently available option compatible with her keenest interests.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Finally a post in this thread that makes sense.
Ramsay Hunt Experience
Footballguy
I think the most surprising thing in all of this is that it's taken this long for Belichick to write an airport book.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Think it’s funny that Steve’s wife, Bills daughter in law, is the most vocal in the family about not liking her and Jordon spending all of their potential inheritance.
rockaction
Footballguy
I just wanted to say I’m deeply sorry about this. This cannot have been anything but earth-shattering and you have my shared sympathy, Andy. Really.
At the heart of my interest is something a little more troubling than media stuff, and hopefully we can ***** at each other about how Belichick’s story is handled in the media while remembering a shared humanity. I hope this doesn’t seem like grandstanding; I have no ulterior motive at all. I’m still firm in my position, but acknowledging your situation is important from where I sit and in my experience because it just . . . well, I don't really have words for why. It just is.
Some of us can at least begin to relate to what you must have felt and have been feeling; the difference is that your situation sounds like it has been a scourge rather than a normal but still awful happenstance. Peace, man. Godspeed.
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