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The Belichick Saga (2 Viewers)

My comment is about her large forehead, long gaunt face and heavy make-up. Do you know her? Her personality may be great, I have no idea. But like I said, I respect 24 year olds dating 74 year olds
Then you don't know what the word 'dour' means. That's the reason I asked.

I'm just horsing around, I know you haven't met her. But always nice to spotlight your enlightened take on women
I often get things wrong, though I don't intend to. So I checked the definition of dour and it means what I thought. Gloomy, unfriendly, unhappy in manner or appearance. That is how she looked to me in the interview video.

No worries, it's the age of enlightenment. The internet has answers within seconds. Best to check the answers before trying to look smart.
 
Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it. Nobody really wanted this story. It’s unavoidable and she and Belichick sought out publicity for his new book.

In addition, it was so ****ing weird it begs judgment and comments. The spectacle and her demeanor make it a train wreck and we’re going to look as humans.

I had something much more airtight typed out but deleted it. This is the bare bones conclusory version.
 
For a bland, dour woman who relies heavily on make-up?
When did you meet her?
My comment is about her large forehead, long gaunt face and heavy make-up. Do you know her? Her personality may be great, I have no idea. But like I said, I respect 24 year olds dating 74 year olds.
Yep she's a 24 yr old who looks 40.... You go Bill, question mark?
He looks like he got his clothing from a dumpster. Maybe that's the best he can do.
 
Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it. Nobody really wanted this story. It’s unavoidable and she and Belichick sought out publicity for his new book.

In addition, it was so ****ing weird it begs judgment and comments. The spectacle and her demeanor make it a train wreck and we’re going to look as humans.

I had something much more airtight typed out but deleted it. This is the bare bones conclusory version.
Nobody really asks for any salacious/titillating story. It's (nearly) completely avoidable like any news. Just like it was with Anna Nicole Smith and J Howard Marshall and whatever woman is currently incubating the most recent child support payment from Mick Jagger.

That's not virtue signalling it's simply opining.
 
i’ll need someone to explain how this effects my daily life and why this is a national story.
To the first part, it doesn't.

To the second part, the media sucks.

You get the news you seek out. This wasn't on the front page of the NYT. It was posted here, by choice. Then you read it, by choice. Then you read through the thread, by choice. It wasn't forced on anyone here in this thread. Everyone here sought it out.

10x more annoying than the media reporting on this kind of stuff is people seeking out this kind of news by choice, and then complaining that they found it.

Roughly 98% of the posts/comments mentioning Belichick on this forum over the last 5 months have been about his relationship. This is the Bill Belichick news ya'll want. Of course they were going to ask about it in the interview. And now everyone talking about it is feigning annoyance.

Feel like we need to insert the bike fall meme in every post about the media.
 
Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it. Nobody really wanted this story. It’s unavoidable and she and Belichick sought out publicity for his new book.

In addition, it was so ****ing weird it begs judgment and comments. The spectacle and her demeanor make it a train wreck and we’re going to look as humans.

I had something much more airtight typed out but deleted it. This is the bare bones conclusory version.
You sure are taking this serious.
 
Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it. Nobody really wanted this story. It’s unavoidable and she and Belichick sought out publicity for his new book.

In addition, it was so ****ing weird it begs judgment and comments. The spectacle and her demeanor make it a train wreck and we’re going to look as humans.

I had something much more airtight typed out but deleted it. This is the bare bones conclusory version.
You sure are taking this serious.

Not really. Tired of being force-fed news and then scolds telling me not to talk about it or that it’s my choice to even have heard of it. ********.
 
Nobody really asks for any salacious/titillating story. It's (nearly) completely avoidable like any news

Just want to respond to this in a calm way. It's not possible to avoid if you follow the news. Following the news right now is especially important if you want to be an informed citizen and that has never been more important in my lifetime. Ergo, you will see this story. Then it depends on how weird the story is whether or not you delve into it. Seeing as how things look horribly awry with it, one wonders what is going on. Anybody with an elderly parent in cognitive decline naturally worries about something like this happening. For instance, see Terminalxylem's thread about his father-in-law.

There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this." Doesn't matter who he is or what his current position is. We just had a completely incompetent and demented person running our country for four years and it's quite possible we're witness to that again. It's easily hidden and compensated for, so just because he's about to coach UNC gives me no solace. It's something that as America ages, we have to be really careful about.

So in sum, no, it wasn't avoidable. It then wasn't something we necessarily should be minding our own business about because one of the people involved may not be able to consent to some harmful behavior. $8-9M is a lot of money.

Etc., etc., etc.
So what can you, personally, do about it?
 
Once upon a time I did have a potential platform and did not want the abuse or hysteria that went with detailing what I thought was seriously wrong with certain things in the world. I passed on it because my skin wasn't thick enough and the constant rebukes and agitations I got (especially losing a bunch of friends over it) crumbled the part of me that wanted to be liked and be part of an accepted community. I not only was in a position to broadcast and influence, but more importantly, I could have been a mentor in place for other young men and women who thought similarly. I would have been another voice in the crowd, but the personal contact and socialization was my strength. But I abdicated and substituted seriousness with drugs and drink to help ease my own unease about the future. Now I watch as a seriously misguided and troubled youth arise from one corner of the world and there is a great sense of sadness and personal responsibility that I feel.

So I have no voice but when I see things that aren't right and are public, I'm going to naturally comment or be drawn to them. That doesn't mean to comment on everything or overstep boundaries (minding your own business is pertinent and relevant in some situations) but when something is blared nation-wide, I'm likely going to comment, especially if we're just talking about it casually on a message board.

And that might sound crazy, but sitting on the sidelines watching the past decade has been brutal. It has been a lesson learned way too late.
 
Nobody really asks for any salacious/titillating story. It's (nearly) completely avoidable like any news

Just want to respond to this in a calm way. It's not possible to avoid if you follow the news. Following the news right now is especially important if you want to be an informed citizen and that has never been more important in my lifetime. Ergo, you will see this story. Then it depends on how weird the story is whether or not you delve into it. Seeing as how things look horribly awry with it, one wonders what is going on. Anybody with an elderly parent in cognitive decline naturally worries about something like this happening. For instance, see Terminalxylem's thread about his father-in-law.

There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this." Doesn't matter who he is or what his current position is. We just had a completely incompetent and demented person running our country for four years and it's quite possible we're witness to that again. It's easily hidden and compensated for, so just because he's about to coach UNC gives me no solace. It's something that as America ages, we have to be really careful about.

So in sum, no, it wasn't avoidable. It then wasn't something we necessarily should be minding our own business about because one of the people involved may not be able to consent to some harmful behavior. $8-9M is a lot of money.

Etc., etc., etc.

What percentage of people in this thread do you think saw this story during their regular non-FBG day, versus the percent that saw it first here on FBG?

OP and (maybe) you I'm guessing maybe saw it in your regular news browsing. I would venture to guess everyone else saw it first here on FBG, and not in their regular day to day news.

If there weren't a thread about it on FBG, I would not have seen anything about this.
 
Nobody really asks for any salacious/titillating story. It's (nearly) completely avoidable like any news

Just want to respond to this in a calm way. It's not possible to avoid if you follow the news. Following the news right now is especially important if you want to be an informed citizen and that has never been more important in my lifetime. Ergo, you will see this story. Then it depends on how weird the story is whether or not you delve into it. Seeing as how things look horribly awry with it, one wonders what is going on. Anybody with an elderly parent in cognitive decline naturally worries about something like this happening. For instance, see Terminalxylem's thread about his father-in-law.

There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this." Doesn't matter who he is or what his current position is. We just had a completely incompetent and demented person running our country for four years and it's quite possible we're witness to that again. It's easily hidden and compensated for, so just because he's about to coach UNC gives me no solace. It's something that as America ages, we have to be really careful about.

So in sum, no, it wasn't avoidable. It then wasn't something we necessarily should be minding our own business about because one of the people involved may not be able to consent to some harmful behavior. $8-9M is a lot of money.

Etc., etc., etc.

What percentage of people in this thread do you think saw this story during their regular non-FBG day, versus the percent that saw it first here on FBG?

OP and (maybe) you I'm guessing maybe saw it in your regular news browsing. I would venture to guess everyone else saw it first here on FBG, and not in their regular day to day news.

If there weren't a thread about it on FBG, I would not have seen anything about this.

I honestly don't know. I mean, if you were preparing for your fantasy football draft and were on Twitter/X, you could not avoid it. I only follow Matt Harmon, Ian Hartitz, David Zach, The Podfather, JJ Zachariason, Adam Levitan, and Mike Clay. That's it. So the algorithm takes that and I get Barstool Sports and others trumpeting the story. It wasn't even the people I follow, it's just football news, apparently.

Let's take a look at a basic Google search. Yeah, it's been all over the place. I mean, if you visit ESPN it's there. If you read the Athletic it's there. I mean, this is really hard to get away from. I'm surprised you haven't seen it. CBS Sports ran with it. The interview was called "viral" by CNN, ABC, Fox, and other major news sources and networks. Editor and Publisher had an article about it. Yahoo covered it. USA Today, People, New York Post, Boston.com, etc., etc., ad nauseam. I don't think there's a news publication that hasn't reported on it or weighed in.

If it needs to be within the culture, Saturday Night Live weighed in on it in their cold open. I heard John Mulaney did a sketch about it (though that might not be accurate). I mean, you had to be living under a rock (no offense) to miss the story. https://youtu.be/bicokNHXgJQ.

What's even crazier about the fact that SNL did their cold open about it is that the introduction of the topic earned an audible gasp from the audience, who all freaking knew the story!!

Sorry to go on a tangent or sound dogmatic and upset, but I think it would behoove people to really think for a moment about telling others to MYOB or that they're choosing this.

They aren't choosing it. And they're trying (or at least I am) to mind my own business while still getting the stories of the day. It's unavoidable. Peace, man, and I understand you and Andy have good intentions; you're just living in an alternate reality than the rest of us.
 
A Google search for "Belichick, interview" is all you need for evidence of this. I'm not making it up. I'm certainly not a voyeur nor a gossip hound. In the words of that famous philosopher from the Northeast in the 21st century, "It is what it is."

Peace.
 
In fact (and I didn't know this) her picture is already a meme when you're about to say something that you shouldn't.

Yeah, Mulaney made fun of it on his Netflix series with Richard King.


I mean, I'll keep on bringing the receipts. eta**There's actually no need and that sounded caustic. You get the idea by now. No need to to waffle stomp with it or drive the point home any further.
 
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But twitter/x isn't "main stream news". That's kind of the point. People are railing on "mainstream news" for it, but I'd venture to guess almost everyone in this thread saw it first here or on Twitter or wherever, not while reading the New York Times or BBC or watching CNN.

So people are seeking out non traditional media sources and finding stuff like this on it, and then blaming traditional news sources for the stuff they found elsewhere.

Did anyone in this thread first hear about it from the New York times or AP or whatever? Heck did anyone first hear about it even on CBS? Was it a headline story on CBS or something on page 2/3 that Twitter/etc blew up? On that last point I'm genuinely asking as I have no idea.

Traditional news sources might run 100 stories a day. If the one in the 43rd slot goes viral on social media does that mean they pushed it by putting it in the 43rd slot, or does it mean that's what everyone wanted to talk about, and then complained that it became popular when they kept talking about it?
 
But twitter/x isn't "main stream news". That's kind of the point. People are railing on "mainstream news" for it, but I'd venture to guess almost everyone in this thread saw it first here or on Twitter or wherever, not while reading the New York Times or BBC or watching CNN.

So people are seeking out non traditional media sources and finding stuff like this on it, and then blaming traditional news sources for the stuff they found elsewhere.

Did anyone in this thread first hear about it from the New York times or AP or whatever? Heck did anyone first hear about it even on CBS? Was it a headline story on CBS or something on page 2/3 that Twitter/etc blew up? On that last point I'm genuinely asking as I have no idea.

Traditional news sources might run 100 stories a day. If the one in the 43rd slot goes viral on social media does that mean they pushed it by putting it in the 43rd slot, or does it mean that's what everyone wanted to talk about, and then complained that it became popular when they kept talking about it?

Nah man. I’m just done with it. I have no desire to create animus or respond.
 
I saw it when it originally aired, as I watch that program pretty much every Sunday morning. I remember thinking something like "Huh....... That was kinda weird". Then it blew up on a couple of the sports-based websites I follow (Ringer, Athletic, CBS, etc....) and was mentioned here. I don't pay much attention to the national news outlets anymore, so I don't know how hard they ran with it.
 
There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this."
This is my only issue:

Thinking he lost his marbles because she shut down an interview?

What do you call it when someone throws out a diagnosis like that based on nothing Belichick had said, but on a single action by his girlfriend?

Ignorant? Irresponsible? Gossipy?

This is the sleazy story it is because of the age difference, nothing more. If she was 60 years old, and shut down the interview, there would not be one word about Bill losing his mind.
 
Did anyone in this thread first hear about it from the New York times or AP or whatever? Heck did anyone first hear about it even on CBS? Was it a headline story on CBS or something on page 2/3 that Twitter/etc blew up? On that last point I'm genuinely asking as I have no idea.
Just scrolling through news on my phone I’ve seen headlines about this countless times
 
She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program
:lmao:
No? Isn't there a concern by the university because she's attempting to take on some kind of role officially or otherwise? My point was that who cares as long as she stays in her lane and doesn't start affecting the business which she may have already done.


 
Did anyone in this thread first hear about it from the New York times or AP or whatever? Heck did anyone first hear about it even on CBS? Was it a headline story on CBS or something on page 2/3 that Twitter/etc blew up? On that last point I'm genuinely asking as I have no idea.
Just scrolling through news on my phone I’ve seen headlines about this countless times
Me too and I just keep scrolling.
 
She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program
:lmao:
No? Isn't there a concern by the university because she's attempting to take on some kind of role officially or otherwise? My point was that who cares as long as she stays in her lane and doesn't start affecting the business which she may have already done.


UNC has - to my knowledge anyway - absolutely no authority over her actions "official (:lmao:) or otherwise." It seems like a stretch to equate her objecting to discussing her personal relationship on network TV to a usurpation of UNC's bailiwick, don't you think?

Could the discipline BB? Sure. But that's not likely to happen.
 
She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program
:lmao:
No? Isn't there a concern by the university because she's attempting to take on some kind of role officially or otherwise? My point was that who cares as long as she stays in her lane and doesn't start affecting the business which she may have already done.


UNC has - to my knowledge anyway - absolutely no authority over her actions "official (:lmao:) or otherwise." It seems like a stretch to equate her objecting to discussing her personal relationship on network TV to a usurpation of UNC's bailiwick, don't you think?

Could the discipline BB? Sure. But that's not likely to happen.
100%, but i wasn't talking about the cbs interview. I was talking more about the hard knocks deal going south from her apparent involvement. If she's just an annoyance ofcourse who cares, but If she got between the university and their business then that's another story.

You can roll your eyes, shake your head, lmao at me if you like, but atleast be on the same page since nowhere did i bring up a network tv interview.
 
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I’ve been seeing stories about Bill and his young girlfriend for at least a year so maybe I’m also online too much. They frequently release social media pictures like the Halloween one and she accompanies him to events like the ESPYs. She seems to have taken on a role as his his brand manager which i assume is the reason she actively participates in his media appearances and admonishes UNC staff regarding their interactions with media members she’s got on her #### list. I’m not sure how good she is at this stuff but it explains why she’s doing it.

It might be hypocritical of me, but I think it’s possible to respect their right to do whatever they want as adults living their lives and agree it’s none of my business but at the same time have my own personal opinion that it’s sad, pathetic and lose some respect for him. He was 50 years old the day she was born.
 
As one who has had a MIL die in a nursing home with dementia, a father who is currently in a nursing home with dementia, and a mother that is exhibiting early signs of dementia...believe me, I am very well aware of dementia without having to subscribe to "only" a dozen or so media outlets and have it either directly or second hand shoved in my face.

The specter of "elder abuse" has been pretty much top of mind for about the last five years, maybe more.
 
Nobody really asks for any salacious/titillating story. It's (nearly) completely avoidable like any news

Just want to respond to this in a calm way. It's not possible to avoid if you follow the news. Following the news right now is especially important if you want to be an informed citizen and that has never been more important in my lifetime. Ergo, you will see this story. Then it depends on how weird the story is whether or not you delve into it. Seeing as how things look horribly awry with it, one wonders what is going on. Anybody with an elderly parent in cognitive decline naturally worries about something like this happening. For instance, see Terminalxylem's thread about his father-in-law.

There is nothing malicious about seeing that and saying, "****, that person might not be able to defend himself from this." Doesn't matter who he is or what his current position is. We just had a completely incompetent and demented person running our country for four years and it's quite possible we're witness to that again. It's easily hidden and compensated for, so just because he's about to coach UNC gives me no solace. It's something that as America ages, we have to be really careful about.

So in sum, no, it wasn't avoidable. It then wasn't something we necessarily should be minding our own business about because one of the people involved may not be able to consent to some harmful behavior. $8-9M is a lot of money.

Etc., etc., etc.

What percentage of people in this thread do you think saw this story during their regular non-FBG day, versus the percent that saw it first here on FBG?

OP and (maybe) you I'm guessing maybe saw it in your regular news browsing. I would venture to guess everyone else saw it first here on FBG, and not in their regular day to day news.

If there weren't a thread about it on FBG, I would not have seen anything about this.
I follow ThatsGoodSports on youtube. The host is a Broncos fan who pops out 3-4 videos a week which are mostly hilarious recaps/power rankings/Sports stories. I'd recommend the channel regardless as he's a fun listen. I may have not heard about the CBS interview without him.



Side note, the story made SNL this week. So people are talking about it. Edit: Rock already hit this point.
 
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She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program
:lmao:
No? Isn't there a concern by the university because she's attempting to take on some kind of role officially or otherwise? My point was that who cares as long as she stays in her lane and doesn't start affecting the business which she may have already done.


UNC has - to my knowledge anyway - absolutely no authority over her actions "official (:lmao:) or otherwise." It seems like a stretch to equate her objecting to discussing her personal relationship on network TV to a usurpation of UNC's bailiwick, don't you think?

Could the discipline BB? Sure. But that's not likely to happen.
100%, but i wasn't talking about the cbs interview. I was talking more about the hard knocks deal going south from her apparent involvement. If she's just an annoyance ofcourse who cares, but If she got between the university and their business then that's another story.

You can roll your eyes, shake your head, lmao at me if you like, but atleast be on the same page.
Same page? Regardless of whether you were talking about Hard Knocks or the CBS interview, my point stands: UNC has no authority over her. None.

That's the page you need to be on.
 
Yeah, sorry if I don’t have time to argue obvious ******** anymore. ****ing led SNL with it. You want to scold? Scold someone else somewhere else.

1) I agree that it’s been a pretty big story that I’ve seen covered numerous places. But I chalk that up to (a) the media loving to push salacious stories, and (b) the general public loving to consume salacious stories.

2) I also agree that you shouldn’t be shamed for having or expressing an opinion. The story is obviously of interest to wide swaths of the public.

3) That said, I don’t think people should be shamed (or accused of virtue signaling) for not caring about the story, or expressing their opinion about it being no one’s business. That is also a perfectly valid stance.

4) Finally, you suggested earlier that we check out a bunch of Twitter posts from a guy I don’t know (@redsteeze?) who is chronicling this story noting that the posts described both the hilarious and disgusting nature of the story. This is precisely why I curate my Twitter feed to avoid going down the rabbit hole with salacious/disgusting/disheartening stories. Just harshes my calm, man.
 
She'll likely get put into her lane by UNC if she starts to affect the program
:lmao:
No? Isn't there a concern by the university because she's attempting to take on some kind of role officially or otherwise? My point was that who cares as long as she stays in her lane and doesn't start affecting the business which she may have already done.


UNC has - to my knowledge anyway - absolutely no authority over her actions "official (:lmao:) or otherwise." It seems like a stretch to equate her objecting to discussing her personal relationship on network TV to a usurpation of UNC's bailiwick, don't you think?

Could the discipline BB? Sure. But that's not likely to happen.
100%, but i wasn't talking about the cbs interview. I was talking more about the hard knocks deal going south from her apparent involvement. If she's just an annoyance ofcourse who cares, but If she got between the university and their business then that's another story.

You can roll your eyes, shake your head, lmao at me if you like, but atleast be on the same page.
Same page? Regardless of whether you were talking about Hard Knocks or the CBS interview, my point stands: UNC has no authority over her. None.

That's the page you need to be on.
No need to get snarky or upset. UNC has no authority, noted, but we were seemingly making reference to two separate things. It was an afterthought comment more or less supporting "who cares" unless it becomes a bigger distraction that affects the university. I'm still in the who cares camp. Just wanted to clarify since you picked it out
 
In fact (and I didn't know this) her picture is already a meme when you're about to say something that you shouldn't.

Yeah, Mulaney made fun of it on his Netflix series with Richard King.


I mean, I'll keep on bringing the receipts. eta**There's actually no need and that sounded caustic. You get the idea by now. No need to to waffle stomp with it or drive the point home any further.
I saw the Mulaney episode when it originally aired. Since I knew nothing about the Belichick interview at the time, I thought it was just a bit. They had an earlier episode where Kind had hit his head and thought he was Gene Simmons of Kiss. So, he kept dropping Gene's "nuggets of wisdom" throughout the show.
Now, that I've seen this thread and read about the Belichick interview, it makes more sense. I wondered why Kind was dressed like he was, but didn’t bother to investigate further.
 
3) That said, I don’t think people should be shamed (or accused of virtue signaling) for not caring about the story, or expressing their opinion about it being no one’s business. That is also a perfectly valid stance.

I’m not shaming people who don’t care. They can write that they don’t care until the cows come home. Haven’t said a thing about that. They’re more than welcome to lament or express that view without scolding everybody else.

People that tell people to mind their own business or that they’ve “chosen” to hear the story are on a wildly different trip. That’s where the imposition comes in and I resent it.

eta* Matter of fact, I know I’m not scolding the people who don’t care or the people who hate the media bc I’d prefer it that way. By far.
 
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If you’re lamenting in general that the media should not report these things, then that ought to be what is said. Not to mind your own business. It’s inescapable. Their business is front page or omnipresent news.
 
4) Finally, you suggested earlier that we check out a bunch of Twitter posts from a guy I don’t know (@redteeze?) who is chronicling this story noting that the posts described both the hilarious and disgusting nature of the story. This is precisely why I curate my Twitter feed to avoid going down the rabbit hole with salacious/disgusting/disheartening stories. Just harshes my calm, man.

That was about Biden and his dementia. Different story about minding your own business and why and when that doesn’t fly. You had no choice but to notice Joe wasn’t right and you had to fight to make that assertion. Public figure? Fair game.
 
3) That said, I don’t think people should be shamed (or accused of virtue signaling) for not caring about the story, or expressing their opinion about it being no one’s business. That is also a perfectly valid stance.

I’m not shaming people who don’t care. They can write that they don’t care until the cows come home. Haven’t said a thing about that. They’re more than welcome to lament or express that view without scolding everybody else.

People that tell people to mind their own business or that they’ve “chosen” to hear the story are on a wildly different trip. That’s where the imposition comes in and I resent it.

Before your post about virtue signaling, I think the only person who said anything close to “mind your own business” was @Andy Dufresne, who observed that the world would be a better place if people minded their own business.

When you responded with “Yeah, I don’t think that the virtue signaling or saying it’s none of your business cuts it”, I think you can understand why it appeared that you were taking issue not only with the it’s none of your business folks, but also the I don’t care folks. I certainly took it that way. I appreciate the clarification, however.
 
4) Finally, you suggested earlier that we check out a bunch of Twitter posts from a guy I don’t know (@redteeze?) who is chronicling this story noting that the posts described both the hilarious and disgusting nature of the story. This is precisely why I curate my Twitter feed to avoid going down the rabbit hole with salacious/disgusting/disheartening stories. Just harshes my calm, man.

That was about Biden and his dementia. Different story about minding your own business and why and when that doesn’t fly. You had no choice but to notice Joe wasn’t right and you had to fight to make that assertion. Public figure? Fair game.

Oh yeah, I no longer have any interest in consuming social media on political topics. Totally respect that you feel otherwise.
 

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