Is Anybody Else Having No Luck At TE This Season? (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

This isn't a "woe is me" thread but rather a look at just how bad the TE position is this season. It's been a few years since the TE position was so devoid of quality talent. It seems like if you don't have one of the following TEs, you're up a creek most weeks:

Witten

Winslow

Gates

Gonzalez

Cooley

Clark

Daniels

I'd probably add Tony Scheffler to the list as well. So that's eight TEs who you can count on. If you don't have one of those eight, you're likely in trouble. In my league, I started with Zach Miller and he was awful the first two games. I replaced him with John Carlson, who's been a dog in his past two games. In between I started Heath Miller during Carlson's bye week. Yes, it's been that kind of a season.

I'm curious to know what other owners who waited until the later rounds are doing at TE. Are you having any luck mixing and matching or are you basically conceding the position every week because of a lack of production?

 

[The_Burning_Bush]

Shockey

 

[Max Power]

And every year people scream to not take the #1 TE early and grab a value late. Most of the late round sleeper TEs never pan out year after year.

Whatcha gonna do?

 

[packersfan]

And every year people scream to not take the #1 TE early and grab a value late. Most of the late round sleeper TEs never pan out year after year. Whatcha gonna do?

This season is definitely a strong argument in favor of taking a top TE early. No question about that. Of the ones I listed the only one who was typically found in later rounds was Daniels. So if you got him late, you're in good shape. But if you didn't, it's probably been a brutal year. It's been a few years since I can remember feeling like I'm pulling teeth trying to get a single point out of the TE position.

 

[Twilight]

I think it's just rose colored glasses on previous years.

TE's have always had a shallow pool, with the top TE's usually having some of the top VBD values in FF. I don't see this year being any different than others.

 

[Restricted]

Other than Witten, no one has really performed consistently this year. You gotta think your opponent has the same issues at TE.

 

[Manasseh]

This is the first year I've grabbed a TE early. Got Witten. It won't be the last year.

 

[FavreCo]

I'm starting to get Greg Olsen involved in my dominant passing game. Told Todd Heap to find a nice spot along the bench.

:thumbup

TE's have historically been hit or miss. Right now it's Witten and that's about it as far as consistency.

 

[Road Warriors]

I think I have one of those guys on every team I drafted.

TE Value falls off hard. I rarely spend a top pick for the consensus #1 TE, but I'll always take a tier 2 guy early if the TEs start to disappear. If you don't get one of the tier 1 or tier 2 guys, you might as well draft your TE in the K/DT rounds for all the luck you'll have getting quality. My draft strategy is to take a tier 2 guy just before they all go off board, regardless of the round, early or late.

 

[the spanker]

Shockey

Shockey was starting to burn it up before his injury, no complaints from me because he will be back soon and I for one am glad I have him.Greg Olsen has filled in nicely the last two weeks for me.

 

[Krewe]

And every year people scream to not take the #1 TE early and grab a value late. Most of the late round sleeper TEs never pan out year after year.

Whatcha gonna do?

This season is definitely a strong argument in favor of taking a top TE early. No question about that. Of the ones I listed the only one who was typically found in later rounds was Daniels. So if you got him late, you're in good shape. But if you didn't, it's probably been a brutal year. It's been a few years since I can remember feeling like I'm pulling teeth trying to get a single point out of the TE position.

In good shape? I keep waiting for this guy Daniels to hit the end zone, but so far...bubkus. My league is not PPR so his lack of scoring, despite numerous targets, is getting to be a real drag. TE...drag..get it? well, sorry for the bad pun.

 

[two_dollars]

Traded for Cooley after week 2 noticing his slow start. Saw the trend of TE's doing not a lot in general. I was one of those who waited to get TE value. However, I'll probably do the same next year unless good draft value falls into my lap.

 

[Burning Sensation]

Fasano has been solid, and should easily finish in the top 10 this year.

 

[rgmnchr]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.

If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

 

[brednbuddah]

Fasano has been solid, and should easily finish in the top 10 this year.

this is the guy that didn't go drafted or had people scratching their heads/chuckling where he was picked. I was one of them (who laughed). well, who's laughing now.

 

[Road Warriors]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

 

[the spanker]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

 

[the spanker]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey :( Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

Please dude. In PPR if healthy Shockey will be a STUD. Top 5 without a DOUBT. And BTW take Tony Scheffler off of your list OP.

 

[Burning Sensation]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

Please dude. In PPR if healthy Shockey will be a STUD. Top 5 without a DOUBT. And BTW take Tony Scheffler off of your list OP.

Only a Shockey owner would think that, and i am not about to debate with a biased owner.

 

[CrossEyed]

This is the first year I've grabbed a TE early. Got Witten. It won't be the last year.

In a keep 3 league I grabbed Witten in the 3rd round (so essentially my 6th pick). It's a ppr where TEs get 1.5. Easily the best decision I made in my draft.

 

[the spanker]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

Please dude. In PPR if healthy Shockey will be a STUD. Top 5 without a DOUBT. And BTW take Tony Scheffler off of your list OP.

Only a Shockey owner would think that, and i am not about to debate with a biased owner.

Then don't debate. Is that suppose to bother me? Before he got hurt Shockey was being targeted like crazy. With Payton's mad air attack, Shockey will get his. Top 5 LOCK if heathy.

 

[lion_crazz]

Yep, gotta agree, Shockey belongs on the list when healthy. On an offense like the Saints, Shockey will be gold.

Looks like Olsen is becoming a top tight end right now. He is becoming a steady target for Kyle Orton.

 

[awesomeness]

By next year Dustin Keller will belong in the listed group, imo. Until then i'll just ride the wave of mediocre between him and Heap.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I waited, got Scheffler + traded for Shockey...the week I sit Scheff for Shockey I get 20 yards and a fumble. Same thing a week later when I sit Shockey for Scheff. Shock's injured, now so is Scheff. I had Witten last year, and wish I played in a keeper league.

 

[Bri]

it's always like this

 

[thayman]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.

If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

Please dude. In PPR if healthy Shockey will be a STUD. Top 5 without a DOUBT. And BTW take Tony Scheffler off of your list OP.

Only a Shockey owner would think that, and i am not about to debate with a biased owner.

Then don't debate. Is that suppose to bother me? Before he got hurt Shockey was being targeted like crazy. With Payton's mad air attack, Shockey will get his. Top 5 LOCK if heathy.

I agree with you....but that "if healthy" is why he won't hit the top 5, every year he is hurt.

 

[Bri]

Shockey hasn't been a top 5 TE in like 4-5 years and he's only played 7 or 8.

Once the Gmen convinced him to stop taking on LBers in the open field and try and save his body, his game has sufferred and (IMO) he gets hurt more often. Good theory backfired.

ETA 2005 he was #2 TE, played 7 years.

Doesn't seem like he will be this year so, my guess of 4(was 4-5) years not so far off

 

[Bri]

I waited, got Scheffler + traded for Shockey...the week I sit Scheff for Shockey I get 20 yards and a fumble. Same thing a week later when I sit Shockey for Scheff. Shock's injured, now so is Scheff. I had Witten last year, and wish I played in a keeper league.

I was finally able to trade away SchefflerI can't predict his good weeks. He may be a top10 TE maybe top 5 but (similar to you) if I can't get the big games in FF because he's coming off a stinker and Nate and Graham are catching passes....I had enough of him.

 

[packersfan]

And every year people scream to not take the #1 TE early and grab a value late. Most of the late round sleeper TEs never pan out year after year.

Whatcha gonna do?

This season is definitely a strong argument in favor of taking a top TE early. No question about that. Of the ones I listed the only one who was typically found in later rounds was Daniels. So if you got him late, you're in good shape. But if you didn't, it's probably been a brutal year. It's been a few years since I can remember feeling like I'm pulling teeth trying to get a single point out of the TE position.

In good shape? I keep waiting for this guy Daniels to hit the end zone, but so far...bubkus. My league is not PPR so his lack of scoring, despite numerous targets, is getting to be a real drag.

You're right. I was thinking about PPR formats where Daniels has been decent. In standard scoring leagues, he's been a problem too. So if you remove him and Scheffler, that leaves six TEs (seven if you included Shockey in a PPR format). That means half of the owners in most leagues are scrambling at this position. Start Heath Miller this week and you're happy. Start him last week and you're shaking your head. That's the problem at this position so far this season. If you waited until the end to take a TE, chances are high you're not getting consistent production.

 

[dmac37]

If your looking for a TE that should be on your WW - Joe Klopfenstein Rams. McMichael will be on IR or out at least 6-8 weeks. Rams should improve and a Saunders offense will feature the TE.

 

[the spanker]

I too am dying at TE. thats about my only weakness.

If you have 2 of the top 8 what would you be looking for. Eli if you need a QB? A top 15 WR?

You probably need a top 4, big name guy to get a top WR option. Witten, Gates, Winslow, and maybe Gonzo will bring more than Cooley, Daniels, Clark, Scheffler or Shockey.

Than Shockey Shockey with be money if he comes back healthy in the Saints offense.

Shockey is not a top 5 TE, even when healthy.

Please dude. In PPR if healthy Shockey will be a STUD. Top 5 without a DOUBT. And BTW take Tony Scheffler off of your list OP.

Only a Shockey owner would think that, and i am not about to debate with a biased owner.

Then don't debate. Is that suppose to bother me? Before he got hurt Shockey was being targeted like crazy. With Payton's mad air attack, Shockey will get his. Top 5 LOCK if heathy.

I agree with you....but that "if healthy" is why he won't hit the top 5, every year he is hurt.

Bro I'll take my chances on Shockey to make an impact before the season is over. Every year there are players who are injured and come back to produce in the second half of the season, the most important half of the season mind you. I'll roll the dice and bank on his upside rather than focus on his past. The past is the past and it doesn't dictate the future 100 percent does it?

The TALENT is there, the OPPORTUNITY is there, the OFFENSE he's in to pay off big time is there. If it pays off a lot of FF Shockey owners will be very happy considering the void in production at the TE position this year.

I picked him up off of waivers and I'll take that bet every time, every year because he could make the difference between a championship or even making the playoffs to begin with.

He's a BUY LOW, go out and get him WHILE YOU CAN because the astute sharks out there are holding on to the other top 4-5 TEs while Shockey's value will probably never be lower.

Why would I bank on less consistent TEs when Shockey has the potential/upside to be a TOP 3 TE and can be acquired a lot less than the other top TEs right now

In the TE position where production is the most inconsistent for lower TEs, a crap-shoot, anyway, you focus on his past, I'll take that bet on his future.

 

[footballnerd]

I drafted Zach Miller too, then switched to Carlson, and just started Olsen this week. Olsen has a nice schedule and Orton is on fire. Think I'll stick with him for a bit until the guy that owns both Gates and Owen Daniels stops being stingy and trades me on of those guys.

 

[steelerfan1]

call me silly, but i think z.miller is going to turn it around. think raiders will pass a bit more now.

 

[OPS]

call me silly, but i think z.miller is going to turn it around. think raiders will pass a bit more now.

I'm thinking the same thing. At least I'm going to give him a try (for the second time this year). I've been through 4 tight ends through 5 weeks and not one has produced for me. I think I'm just going to roll with Zach Miller since he's through his bye.