Is cultural/societal diversity an ideal to strive for or something to avoid? (1 Viewer)

[IvanKaramazov]

Sorry, it did not.

You asked if someone needs to be “immersed in a topic” to be knowledgeable.  In this case the answer is obviously yes.  In order to really know how immigrants impact our communities, you need to be immersed in the communities they impact. 

Would you make this same argument with regards to folks who live along our southern border?  I certainly wouldn't.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Would you make this same argument with regards to folks who live along our southern border?  I certainly wouldn't.

Depends what you’re talking about.  If you’re talking about impact of border issues locally (safety, eminent domain, etc.) then I would say yes, those people understand those issues in ways I do not. If you’re talking about broader policy implications and national security questions then it would depend on their experience but probably not, they don’t know more than the rest of us.

Similarly, if someone is discussing immigration policy based on macroeconomic issues then there’s no reason to defer to people in immigrant-heavy communities (we can ask economists who basically all agree immigration is a positive). But if they’re talking about how immigration impacts communities in terms of resources, culture, safety etc then we absolutely should defer to those who actually experience those things.  And we can draw conclusions from the fact that those communities are generally the most supportive of liberal immigration policies.

 

[whoknew]

Pretty interesting news. Starting on July 1, Goldman will no longer take a company public unless they have at least one diverse member on its board -

Link

 

[parasaurolophus]

Pretty interesting news. Starting on July 1, Goldman will no longer take a company public unless they have at least one diverse member on its board -

Link

Don't like six states already require this or have legislation pending that would require it? 

New York is heading that way, so this isn't as progressive as it seems on the surface. 

 

[whoknew]

Don't like six states already require this or have legislation pending that would require it? 

New York is heading that way, so this isn't as progressive as it seems on the surface. 

I understand. And with at least 10 member boards, it’s very likely to have some diversity. I’m not saying we should give Solomon the Medal of Freedom. I just think it’s an interesting development. 

 

[kface]

I'd say about 40% of the country doesn't see the benefit in racial/ethnic/cultural diversity. 

Overall, I think diversity is a good thing. It leads to new ideas and approaches as well as innovation. 

Rural America is just gonna have to keep taking an L, like they have the last 40 years. 

It just slows things down but yes they are going to continue taking an L

 

[rockaction]

I've blown this horn before, but here goes:

i've become of the opinion that if humans are not gods, they are bugs. Perhaps i should modify "gods" to "saints" or "citizens", but i'm trying to make a point without sounding dysgenic or eugenic or just plain racist.

So this is what the heck you mean when you're talking about the Gods/bugs divide. That I caught this on accident is a shame. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

So this is what the heck you mean when you're talking about the Gods/bugs divide. That I caught this on accident is a shame. 

kinda, not really. that particular fever dream was some one-man-band practice, trying to work out the song of that subject without anyone noticing amid the jibberjabbber. coupla PMpals have called me on that lately. i do worry that the god/bug ratio is out of whack, and that is a very delicate equilibrium,

 

[rockaction]

kinda, not really. that particular fever dream was some one-man-band practice, trying to work out the song of that subject without anyone noticing amid the jibberjabbber. coupla PMpals have called me on that lately. i do worry that the god/bug ratio is out of whack, and that is a very delicate equilibrium,

I don't think there's any disgrace in fleshing something out in public. You don't need to be perfect. On the other hand, a completed and final sort of thesis bestows upon the writer a mystery that bespeaks authority. And, also, sometimes working things out in public makes the train of thought hard to follow. 

Anyway, IMO, the god/bug ratio being out of whack has been, in modern times, lamented best and most often by Nietzsche. Only thing is that Nietzsche saw the democratic project as a project of bugs tying Gods down like the Lilliputians to Gulliver rather than the aforementioned "God" or "citizen" have their democratic prejudices be elevated as emblematic of the spirit of attainment and a thinking person's raison d'etre. 

To Nietzsche, the bugs tore down the Gods in the democratic experiment. You praise the democrat. Such is the distinction between you and he. 

 

[bigbottom]

Seems like at least one major study shows high levels of distrust between groups in diverse cities like Los Angeles.

I think it depends on the area. But I will say that my neighborhood in Texas is infinitely more diverse than my neighborhood in Southern California when I lived there. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

I don't think there's any disgrace in fleshing something out in public. You don't need to be perfect. On the other hand, a completed and final sort of thesis bestows upon the writer a mystery that bespeaks authority. And, also, sometimes working things out in public makes the train of thought hard to follow. 

Anyway, IMO, the god/bug ratio being out of whack has been, in modern times, lamented best and most often by Nietzsche. Only thing is that Nietzsche saw the democratic project as a project of bugs tying Gods down like the Lilliputians to Gulliver rather than the aforementioned "God" or "citizen" have their democratic prejudices be elevated as emblematic of the spirit of attainment and a thinking person's raison d'etre. 

To Nietzsche, the bugs tore down the Gods in the democratic experiment. You praise the democrat. Such is the distinction between you and he. 

well, i will just have to kill Nietzsche. who will then kill me?

 

[rockaction]

well, i will just have to kill Nietzsche. who will then kill me?

a humbug

 

[wikkidpissah]

a humbug

boo humbug

 

[rockaction]

boo humbug

I quite liked what you deleted. For posterity's sake, it was inoffensive. 

 

[wikkidpissah]

I quite liked what you deleted. For posterity's sake, it was inoffensive. 

i do that quite a bit. i call it "blink verse"

 

[parasaurolophus]

Is there a choice for neither?

 

[jon_mx]

That piece is 11 years old and makes generalizations out of anecdotes in a way sure to make The American Conservative happy. 

We're only going to get more diverse. We don't have any choice but to make things work in a way that nobody has done before.

Policies which emphasize race, group people by race and have different rules based on race will only make things worse.   Liberal policies which seek to artificially increase diversity are tearing apart the country.