Joe T
Footballguy
GnR >>>> Pearl Jam
There should be no debate on this.
Sweet Child O'Mine is a top 5 rock song all time.
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Is Guns N' Roses a top 10 US band all-time? (2 Viewers)
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GnR >>>> Pearl Jam
There should be no debate on this.
Sweet Child O'Mine is a top 5 rock song all time.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Certainly they have some of the more fanatical fans. True story: recently wandering around a superstore that sold everything from ammo to fresh flowers, and someone had laid down a dozen roses across a display of Crosman pellet guns.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
My two favorite bands all time (not the two I would argue as "best" but my two favorites). For me personally, Pearl Jam takes it for their longevity and variety. But Sweet Child is the best song by either band.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Awful list. Bruce is a solo act and they hot shot him to number one?
ramones are a trendy music ##### pick but they played shows to 1500 and are a better idea than artist. Influence you'll say? The allman brothers invented southern rock.
MarvinTScamper
Footballguy
You're right. They both had one decent album and they're both fronted by whackos.
Sweet child is top 5, of the GnR list, or of bands from the early 90s in mediocre rock Any other list of top 5 songs will never include either of these bands
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
The e street band is a glorified session group. Almost every major solo artist has a support structure but they're a solo act. Johnny cash and the Tennessee 2/3 or Willie Nelson and the family band aren't listed here. There to my knowledge has never been a single lyric credited to the e streeters and I think they have only recently received any song writing credit at all (and only for a few tunes). Bruce went in the hall solo and all the forumulative albums are solo credits so they in no way are the greatest band all time. This is based on the Gibson list
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MarvinTScamper
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massraider
Footballguy
Yeah the list sucks.
Ramones and GnR in front of Buddy Holly or Talking Heads is silly.
Buzzbait
Footballguy
There's another FBG thread created recently asking if the Ramones were a top 10 American band and caused me to jot down mine. My top 10 has 7 from the Gibson list. I didn't have Nirvana, The Byrds or R.E.M. in my top 10. I wouldn't argue with anyone who puts Nirvana in but I think they are over rated and in the next group of 10. My biggest gripe is the Eagles at #13. There is no way on God's green Earth that I can fathom how they aren't a lock for top 10. In fact they were in my top 5. Skynyrd is also a top 10 IMO but can see cause for others to not agree.
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TwinTurbo
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That's a pretty good analogy. Bo Jackson was one of the greatest athletes of all time. No hype, just truth. So if GnR = Bo Jackson, then they are one of the greatest bands of all time.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Bo Jackson was a lot of hype and potential that never fully realized itself. That's GnR IMO. There was an unreal amount of explosiveness. The forward momentum broke down the old ways (think GnR Bo running through hair band Boz). Appetite for Destruction was walking up the wall, running through the tunnel, walking up the wall and breaking the bat on his head. Man, this band is so good, they could do anything. But Bo had a bad hip and GnR had a bad Axl. Neither the hip nor the Axl were strong enough to support the pure power that was Gun's FN Bo'ses.
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Great points. Nostalgia can be a funny thing. I know there are songs and albums I tend to "overrate" because of how and when I got into them (as a kid in the 80s and when diving deep into music in the early 90s).mr roboto said:
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Great points. Nostalgia can be a funny thing. I know there are songs and albums I tend to "overrate" because of how and when I got into them (as a kid in the 80s and when diving deep into music in the early 90s).mr roboto said:
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Also, while we are comparing bands to athletes, Barry Sanders is the Beach Boys of rock bands. Were there some really bad runs? Yeah, lots of negative plays. The peaks were glorious though. This is the Good Vibrations of runs. Everyone copied The Beatles and the Stones and Zeppelin. There's lots of big bruisers like Campbell, speedy long striders like ED and dual threat players like Faulk. There is no Barry other though. Coaches don't watch Barry and think, "perfect, I have got to show our RB how to run this play." Kind of like almost no rock band heard those Beach Boys harmonies and thought, "hey let's copy that sound".
Both ended too early, their hearts and heads no longer in the game.
Both ended too early, their hearts and heads no longer in the game.
pantherclub
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LololololololololololololJoe T said:
flapgreen
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tommyboy
Footballguy
their main album sold like 30 million copies which I think puts it in the top 10 of all time rock albums (rock,not pop) so yeah, i'd say they qualified.
flapgreen
Footballguy
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
If you ask 100 people to name their Top 10, probably 50 bands would get votes. Everyone will go in a different direction. In my case, I love the Eagles, but I never would have thought to list them. I'm not that into the Ramones or the Byrds, so they would never make my list. Do singers with bands count as bands (Bruce, Petty, Bob Seger, etc.)? I also would not have thought of the Beach Boys as a "rock" band. One band I thought of that hasn't been mentioned was Chicago. Another band that I like that others might not would be ZZ Top. Everyone will different favorites.
tommyboy
Footballguy
i dunno. I saw them when they were teenagers, at a house. They brought their van and sold $5 CD's. Even then I remember they were extremely talented. I'm not surprised they were successful.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I saw them in concert. Good show back then. When compared to anyone close to this discussion, they blow. I should've made that distinction.
mr roboto
Footballguy
mr roboto
Footballguy
Chicago is far more talented than GnR or Aerosmith. But some people simply dislike the music.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Steely Dan would probably end up on my list. Have they even been mentioned? Similarly, I have seen Blue Oyster Cult more than any other band, but I certainly would not expect other people to consider them.
flapgreen
Footballguy
I can see that with Green Day. I've never felt that way with GnR. Still as good as ever. Never gets old.
mr roboto
Footballguy
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TripItUp
Footballguy
Green Day was my era, and even I know they were limited to a very specific sound.
great band, but GnR Was THE RockNRoll band for almost a decade.(86 to grunge)
The lack of reapect being displayed for arguably the greatest post 1980 American rock band is disturbing, very disturbing.
great band, but GnR Was THE RockNRoll band for almost a decade.(86 to grunge)
The lack of reapect being displayed for arguably the greatest post 1980 American rock band is disturbing, very disturbing.
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rockaction
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Anarchy99
Footballguy
I sort of disagree with the longevity part. Their studio release run was essentially 4 years . . . the summer of 1987 to the fall of 1991. They toured for a couple years and then the band started fragmenting. That stretch consisted of AFD, Lies, and the two Illusion albums. A football analogy would be Terrell Davis. Insanely good for a brief stretch. But what have they really done in the 25 years since then?
flapgreen
Footballguy
Yeah. I can't stand the Eagles. Make me nauseous hearing them. Love Van Halen and Guns N'Roses
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
I can't stand the Eagles, but I get nostalgic when I hear Eagles songs - they were inescapable in my youth - 13 to 23. It brings back good memories ...but even at the time, I didn't really like them and never bought an Eagles album. I suppressed my hatred at the time because the music was too pervasive and there wasn't any reason to make a scene at parties, bars, etc. Hell, I couldn't have gone anywhere but a punk bar to avoid them.
I like Joe Walsh though.
Limp Ditka
Footballguy
Aerosmoth is awful and if it wasn't for Rick Rubin they'd be the typical forgotten rockers of yesteryear. They made a bajillion dollars since the Run DMC / Walk This Way collaboration, but since then they've churned out so much garbage it just tarnishes any greatness there once was.
Smack Tripper
Footballguy
Aerosmith is probably the only artist or athlete who I've ever seen tarnish their legacy by hanging on too long. There was so much suck it really brought down the mean. F them.
How are the rascals never mentioned on these great band lists. They crap all over the ramones in terms of writing a punchy pop song.
How are the rascals never mentioned on these great band lists. They crap all over the ramones in terms of writing a punchy pop song.
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Give me your top 10. Plus your point is bs. So GnR is better because the started in 89
TripItUp
Footballguy
IC FBGCav
Footballguy
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
Where does "The Association" fit in this discussion?
GilbertGrape
Footballguy
U2 sucks.
No way were they bigger and/or more popular than U2, who was at their biggest in the late 80s and early 90s. U2 was selling out stadiums alone everywhere then. Granted, these are two different animals - U2 and GNR are two very different rock bands - but there is no way you can say that GNR was undeniably bigger than U2.
