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Is LaDainian Tomlinson washed up? (1 Viewer)

Eagles D was missing a ton of linebackers, and played like poo all day.

It was the best LT has looked this year, but I wouldn't expect this every week.

 
Riffraff said:
LT2 was inspired today.

His wife left a gift in his locker. It was a positive pregnancy test. Proud pappa day for LT2.
:( He's not ALL washed up.
I ran a midseason review of our league and declared him as the bust of the draft. Then I benched him for Braylon Edwards.His effort was pretty much gauranteed.

 
I haven't liked the Chargers run blocking at all. This was a good unit for a good chunk of last year. At times even lil bugger Sproles struggles to find a hole behind this OL.

The poor OL play has made it hard to evaluate Tomlinson.

I still don't think he's done. The 4TD or 200 yard type games are but, there's no reason he can't get 100 off 20 if the line gives him some decent running room.

I don't know if he gets 20 with Sproles around and I think that could be a mistake. I think enough NFL teams have proven the two back(or three) system works well. Once Tomlinson is getting some good yardage, Sproles should destroy a tired defense. I know that first step seems tough lately but, still think it's the OL fault.

Oh and no one in the NFL is anywhere near as good as Tomlinson(w/confidence) inside the redzone. Wo/ confidence may be different story. If Chargers make playoffs, they're going to need some of those points and IIRC Tomlinson hasn't been used or has been injured for them in playoffs in the past.

 
Riffraff said:
LT2 was inspired today.

His wife left a gift in his locker. It was a positive pregnancy test. Proud pappa day for LT2.
:unsure: He's not ALL washed up.
I ran a midseason review of our league and declared him as the bust of the draft. Then I benched him for Braylon Edwards.His effort was pretty much gauranteed.
Please don't discount my first ever benching of LT in favour of Ricky Williams. You didn't do this all by yourself. :bag:

 
I would fall off my chair if LT broke a 50 yard run this season. He's got NOTHING left. No burn left in those legs. He's a plodder who will dive in luckily from a yard out now and again for the rest of the season, but the days of excitement are long gone i'm afraid.
"NOTHING left"..........please refrain from further comments about football. Thanks.
 
Magnum :popcorn:You Tomlinson's agent? He's done, dude. Done.
Obviously, you didn't watch the game. LT has slowed down, he's not the same player, but he's not "done". As for Fantasy Football.........he still has value. In my 12 team, non ppr league.....Tomlinson has an "average" of 9.6 points per game and ranks 20th for "average points per game" (that he has played in.....and that includes a 1 point game verse Pitt and a 2 point game verse the Giants). At his current "points per game" rank of 20th...........that makes him a low end RB2 which means..........LT HAS VALUE.
 
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Magnum :shrug:You Tomlinson's agent? He's done, dude. Done.
Obviously, you didn't watch the game. LT has slowed down, he's not the same player, but he's not "done". As for Fantasy Football.........he still has value. In my 12 team, non ppr league.....Tomlinson has an "average" of 9.6 points per game and ranks 20th for "average points per game" (that he has played in.....and that includes a 1 point game verse Pitt and a 2 point game verse the Giants). At his current "points per game" rank of 20th...........that makes him a low end RB2 which means..........LT HAS VALUE.
:lmao:Tomlinson having a decent statistical game is a blind squirrel finding a nut now. :lmao:
 
To me, Tomlinson looked the same yesterday as he had all season. He stumbled too much. He lost his balance too quickly. But he's still quick, and will still get through a hole if one is there.

The only difference between yesterday and any previous game was that there were a few holes yesterday.

 
To me, Tomlinson looked the same yesterday as he had all season. He stumbled too much. He lost his balance too quickly. But he's still quick, and will still get through a hole if one is there.The only difference between yesterday and any previous game was that there were a few holes yesterday.
Maurile, as one of the Chargers backers here, what the word on Hardwick going forward? Have to imagine that helps LT to continue on an upward trend.
 
Magnum :goodposting:You Tomlinson's agent? He's done, dude. Done.
Obviously, you didn't watch the game. LT has slowed down, he's not the same player, but he's not "done". As for Fantasy Football.........he still has value. In my 12 team, non ppr league.....Tomlinson has an "average" of 9.6 points per game and ranks 20th for "average points per game" (that he has played in.....and that includes a 1 point game verse Pitt and a 2 point game verse the Giants). At his current "points per game" rank of 20th...........that makes him a low end RB2 which means..........LT HAS VALUE.
:lmao:Tomlinson having a decent statistical game is a blind squirrel finding a nut now. :lmao:
I'll go ahead and assume you have a hard time understanding numbers, rankings, and statistics.
 
To me, Tomlinson looked the same yesterday as he had all season. He stumbled too much. He lost his balance too quickly. But he's still quick, and will still get through a hole if one is there.The only difference between yesterday and any previous game was that there were a few holes yesterday.
Maurile, as one of the Chargers backers here, what the word on Hardwick going forward? Have to imagine that helps LT to continue on an upward trend.
He was originally expected to be back in week 11 for the game in Denver.But last week he was a bit ahead of schedule. With an eye toward possibly playing against the Eagles, he practiced in the middle of the week -- and had a setback. So he was inactive again yesterday.I'm not sure where that leaves him for this week's game. We'll have to see if he can practice by Wednesday.
 
Magnum :lmao:You Tomlinson's agent? He's done, dude. Done.
Obviously, you didn't watch the game. LT has slowed down, he's not the same player, but he's not "done". As for Fantasy Football.........he still has value. In my 12 team, non ppr league.....Tomlinson has an "average" of 9.6 points per game and ranks 20th for "average points per game" (that he has played in.....and that includes a 1 point game verse Pitt and a 2 point game verse the Giants). At his current "points per game" rank of 20th...........that makes him a low end RB2 which means..........LT HAS VALUE.
:lmao:Tomlinson having a decent statistical game is a blind squirrel finding a nut now. :lmao:
I'll go ahead and assume you have a hard time understanding numbers, rankings, and statistics.
Ohh I sure do. :thumbup:
 
That 96 yards and 2 TDs moved him from RB38 all the way up to RB30. Quality season there.
If you rank him according to total points he's #31 in my league. I prefer to use average points per game and he's sitting at #23 in my league. Not what I was hoping for when I drafted him but honestly with the lack of holes I don't see where it is LT2's fault. Many were calling for LT2 to be benched and were giddy when he got hurt so the prodigy Sproles could hit the field. Of course Sproles couldn't do anything with the horrible run blocking either so his supporters simply went back to hammering LT2. LT2 may have lost a step, but from the games I've seen he's still good. If anyone needs dirt thrown on them it's the Chargers offensive line.
 
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That 96 yards and 2 TDs moved him from RB38 all the way up to RB30. Quality season there.
If you rank him according to total points he's #31 in my league. I prefer to use average points per game and he's sitting at #23 in my league. Not what I was hoping for when I drafted him but honestly with the lack of holes I don't see where it is LT2's fault. Many were calling for LT2 to be benched and were giddy when he got hurt so the prodigy Sproles could hit the field. Of course Sproles couldn't do anything with the horrible run blocking either so his supporters simply went back to hammering LT2. LT2 may have lost a step, but from the games I've seen he's still good. If anyone needs dirt thrown on them it's the Chargers offensive line.
:ptts: LT2 has not show the incredible balance he once had, but he is still fine. The OL is most of the issue; if he were in the Jets backfield people would be loving him. I also want to point out that Norv is a moron. They are so predictable. I have no idea why they don;t use LT2 on wheel play or other passing plays. they are too predictable.
 
That 96 yards and 2 TDs moved him from RB38 all the way up to RB30. Quality season there.
If you rank him according to total points he's #31 in my league. I prefer to use average points per game and he's sitting at #23 in my league. Not what I was hoping for when I drafted him but honestly with the lack of holes I don't see where it is LT2's fault. Many were calling for LT2 to be benched and were giddy when he got hurt so the prodigy Sproles could hit the field. Of course Sproles couldn't do anything with the horrible run blocking either so his supporters simply went back to hammering LT2. LT2 may have lost a step, but from the games I've seen he's still good. If anyone needs dirt thrown on them it's the Chargers offensive line.
:thumbup: LT2 has not show the incredible balance he once had, but he is still fine. The OL is most of the issue; if he were in the Jets backfield people would be loving him. I also want to point out that Norv is a moron. They are so predictable. I have no idea why they don;t use LT2 on wheel play or other passing plays. they are too predictable.
He has lost some of his balance as well as his patience. He's running up the backs of his offensive linemen too often instead of waiting for the play to develop. I think he'll get his patience back as soon as the line starts blocking a bit better -- i.e., as soon as they give him some holes that are worth waiting for.His lack of balance, though, is probably not going to be cured.He does still have the quickness and moves to be successful if he's given a hole. It'd be nice if he could break arm tackles more easily, but at age 30, he's not going to do everything as well as he used to.
 
That 96 yards and 2 TDs moved him from RB38 all the way up to RB30. Quality season there.
If you rank him according to total points he's #31 in my league. I prefer to use average points per game and he's sitting at #23 in my league. Not what I was hoping for when I drafted him but honestly with the lack of holes I don't see where it is LT2's fault. Many were calling for LT2 to be benched and were giddy when he got hurt so the prodigy Sproles could hit the field. Of course Sproles couldn't do anything with the horrible run blocking either so his supporters simply went back to hammering LT2. LT2 may have lost a step, but from the games I've seen he's still good. If anyone needs dirt thrown on them it's the Chargers offensive line.
:lmao: LT2 has not show the incredible balance he once had, but he is still fine. The OL is most of the issue; if he were in the Jets backfield people would be loving him. I also want to point out that Norv is a moron. They are so predictable. I have no idea why they don;t use LT2 on wheel play or other passing plays. they are too predictable.
He has lost some of his balance as well as his patience. He's running up the backs of his offensive linemen too often instead of waiting for the play to develop. I think he'll get his patience back as soon as the line starts blocking a bit better -- i.e., as soon as they give him some holes that are worth waiting for.His lack of balance, though, is probably not going to be cured.He does still have the quickness and moves to be successful if he's given a hole. It'd be nice if he could break arm tackles more easily, but at age 30, he's not going to do everything as well as he used to.
I felt that LT2 would play until 32 because of his great vision. I still beleive that, but his line needs to do something for him. Guys like Curtis Martin and LT2 have/had great vision and I don;t think goes away as quickly as the physical part.
 
That 96 yards and 2 TDs moved him from RB38 all the way up to RB30. Quality season there.
If you rank him according to total points he's #31 in my league. I prefer to use average points per game and he's sitting at #23 in my league. Not what I was hoping for when I drafted him but honestly with the lack of holes I don't see where it is LT2's fault. Many were calling for LT2 to be benched and were giddy when he got hurt so the prodigy Sproles could hit the field. Of course Sproles couldn't do anything with the horrible run blocking either so his supporters simply went back to hammering LT2. LT2 may have lost a step, but from the games I've seen he's still good. If anyone needs dirt thrown on them it's the Chargers offensive line.
:lmao: LT2 has not show the incredible balance he once had, but he is still fine. The OL is most of the issue; if he were in the Jets backfield people would be loving him. I also want to point out that Norv is a moron. They are so predictable. I have no idea why they don;t use LT2 on wheel play or other passing plays. they are too predictable.
He has lost some of his balance as well as his patience. He's running up the backs of his offensive linemen too often instead of waiting for the play to develop. I think he'll get his patience back as soon as the line starts blocking a bit better -- i.e., as soon as they give him some holes that are worth waiting for.His lack of balance, though, is probably not going to be cured.

He does still have the quickness and moves to be successful if he's given a hole. It'd be nice if he could break arm tackles more easily, but at age 30, he's not going to do everything as well as he used to.
I felt that LT2 would play until 32 because of his great vision. I still beleive that, but his line needs to do something for him. Guys like Curtis Martin and LT2 have/had great vision and I don;t think goes away as quickly as the physical part.
No but seeing something doesn't necessarily mean that you're able to get there anymore.
 
Just traded him straight up for Larry Fitzgerald. And ya'll said he didn't have any value!! :goodposting:

LJ

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Guy was in desperate need of a RB2 and had Sid Rice, Colston, and MSW already on his roster.

 
RT Clary was injured today and could be lost for the season. He was the only OL who was actually playing above expectations this year, so that hurts. His backup will be Dombrowski, who was really bad when subbing in at RG for Vasquez earlier in the season.

 
In the last 4 weeks, LT has scored 18, 1, 21 and 11 - average of 12.75 per week.

That's the equivalent to an RB in the 10-15 range.

That's a good trend.

:pickle:

 
Losing the lineman scares me. I'm thinking about moving him for Pierre Thomas, but at least LT gets goal line work.

He had 20 carries for 73 yards and a touchdown. That's not bad at all. Next two weeks he gets Chiefs and Browns.

 
In the last 4 weeks, LT has scored 18, 1, 21 and 11 - average of 12.75 per week.That's the equivalent to an RB in the 10-15 range.That's a good trend. :thumbup:
EXACTLY! All the nimrods that continue to write "done"..."no value"....are moronic. Unless you play in a 6 team league.........LT has VALUE!
 
As an LT owner, his season is really reminding me of Jerome Bettis circa 2004. A 32-year old Bettis went for 250/941/13 that year, 3.9 a carry with a long of 29. Lots of TD vulturing on a good offense and veteran leadership.

If you extrapolate Tomlinson's stats for 16 games, he is on pace for 263/883/14. 3.4 YPC with a long of 36. I am hoping that I can get similar Bettis-like production out of LT for the rest of the year.

Bettis played one more injury plagued season after that and was done. Not saying the same thing will happen with LT, but their career arcs are similar.

 
The comparison to Bettis is interesting - obviously different types of backs, but still not a bad comparison in terms of wear-and-tear.

For us LT owners, the TD opportunities are quite the lifeline - otherwise LT would hold little value.

 
Looks to be a decent option in TD heavy leagues.

But the receptions arent there, and quite frankly 39 yard rushing against KC in a blow out is terrible

 
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He nearly had a third touchdown.

It's alarming that he has no value other than the touchdowns, but he *is* getting touchdowns. This is an explosive offense that regularly gets into the red zone. So he should keep getting lots of carries there.

 
Looks to be a decent option in TD heavy leagues.But the receptions arent there, and quite frankly 39 yard rushing against KC in a blow out is terrible
The big changes this year are that he's not getting receptions (which seems strange, given how good a receiving back he is), and they're not riding him in put-the-game-away situations. He got just 13 carries and one reception against KC; if they gave him 10 more carries against a tired defense he'd probably make 100 yards.Those factors don't appear to be changing; it looks like we can expect 15 carries and 1 reception per game from here out. But he does get the goal line work in a good offense.
 
He nearly had a third touchdown.

It's alarming that he has no value other than the touchdowns, but he *is* getting touchdowns. This is an explosive offense that regularly gets into the red zone. So he should keep getting lots of carries there.
Except he fumbled at the goal line. Nate is my kicker as well. I went from getting 7 points to minus two for a fumble..a 9 point swing in a game I lost by four. :lmao: I had to play LT yesterday due to injuries..still not sold on him as a every week starter.

 
Looks to be a decent option in TD heavy leagues.But the receptions arent there, and quite frankly 39 yard rushing against KC in a blow out is terrible
The big changes this year are that he's not getting receptions (which seems strange, given how good a receiving back he is), and they're not riding him in put-the-game-away situations. He got just 13 carries and one reception against KC; if they gave him 10 more carries against a tired defense he'd probably make 100 yards.Those factors don't appear to be changing; it looks like we can expect 15 carries and 1 reception per game from here out. But he does get the goal line work in a good offense.
:thumbup:
 
The lack of receptions is bizarre and something I dont think alot of people saw forthcoming. I understand hes no longer the 3rd down back and that would lead to some loss of reception #s but hes not even being targeted on 1st or 2nd down.

 
In the last 4 weeks, LT has scored 18, 1, 21 and 11 - average of 12.75 per week.That's the equivalent to an RB in the 10-15 range.That's a good trend. :goodposting:
In the last 5 weeks, LT has scored 18, 1, 21, 11 and 16 - average of 13.4 per week.Still a good trend. Whether they've improved their blocking schemes or playing easier opponents, he's still staying in my lineup.
 

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