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Is Luck a Lock to be the #1 pick next year? (1 Viewer)

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I started thinking about this today. I think Carolina is the most likely team to finish last this year. If that's the case, is Luck a lock to be the #1 pick? Would they pull a Detroit Lions-esque move and take one position (qbs vs wr) high 3 years in a row? Perhaps the new rookie wage scale will make #1 overall picks more tradeable. Is he worth another time trading up to the #1 pick? (usually a high cost).

I know there's a lot of assumptions, and it's definitely way too early to think about this, but I think there's a good possibility something will happen like in the Mario Williams draft year when everyone was surprised at the Texans for not taking Vince Young or Reggie Bush.

 
1-Doubtful that Car is the #1 pick 2 years in a row. It rarely happens

2- Someone else (probably at a different position) will emerge as a viable candidate to be a #1

3- Luck's stock may drop

 
1-Doubtful that Car is the #1 pick 2 years in a row. It rarely happens

2- Someone else (probably at a different position) will emerge as a viable candidate to be a #1

3- Luck's stock may drop
While I realize there is an arguement that Luck is so good, he will be a lock for #1 regardless of what happens, I would not proclaim him #1 until I see what he does without Harbaugh. The best thing that may happen to him is that he gets injured ala Bradford and we do not get another year for the draftniks to poke holes in his game. The spotlight is on him now and anything less than what he did in 2010 will be deemed a disappointment...fair or not.
 
I cannot remember the last time a team was the top pick in back to back years, I seriously doubt it happens now. Carolina has a new coach, qb and will probably make some improvements in FA (whenever that is). If I had to pick a team now that would finish with the top pick I would guess the Bengals then Bills....

Also, Luck is a lock for the top pick just like Locker was last year. Aside from Sam Bradford, not often does a player who is a probable top overall pick, return to school and end up the top pick the next year. Coaches/Scouts have an entire year to find holes with a top prospect.

 
I cannot remember the last time a team was the top pick in back to back years, I seriously doubt it happens now. Carolina has a new coach, qb and will probably make some improvements in FA (whenever that is). If I had to pick a team now that would finish with the top pick I would guess the Bengals then Bills....Also, Luck is a lock for the top pick just like Locker was last year. Aside from Sam Bradford, not often does a player who is a probable top overall pick, return to school and end up the top pick the next year. Coaches/Scouts have an entire year to find holes with a top prospect.
Locker was never the "lock" that Luck is at this point.That being said, Luck could pull a Brian Brohm. If Luck does not meet expectations, that would probably be the closest comp to a presumed number one dropping. After Petrino left, Louisville's stock dropped more than Brohm's numbers dipped, but it still hurt Brohm.
 
Leinart was seen to be a lock at #1 (instead SF took Alex Smith), but went back to school for a year and was taken #10 by Arizona. He didn't do much wrong his senior year except lose to Vince Young in the title game. His 2005 season was maybe a little better than his Heisman 2004 season, statistically.

 
I cannot remember the last time a team was the top pick in back to back years, I seriously doubt it happens now. Carolina has a new coach, qb and will probably make some improvements in FA (whenever that is). If I had to pick a team now that would finish with the top pick I would guess the Bengals then Bills....

Also, Luck is a lock for the top pick just like Locker was last year. Aside from Sam Bradford, not often does a player who is a probable top overall pick, return to school and end up the top pick the next year. Coaches/Scouts have an entire year to find holes with a top prospect.
Cleveland Browns took Tim Couch #1 overall in 1999, and Courtney Brown #1 overall in 2000. Before that, the Bengals took Dan Wilkinson and Kijana Carter #1 overall in 94 and 95.
 
Luck is considered by many to be the best pro QB prospect since Manning. As long as he doesn't get hurt and keeps his completion perentage over 60%, he will be discussed as the top pick and will be considered the most valuable prospect. Whether the team ultimately drafting at 1.01 needs a QB is the only determination of whether he will be the number one pick.

 
As of now, I think luck is clearly the #1 pick (the season could change things). Assuming a rookie wage scale, that pick would have rediculous value. A potential franchise changing quarterback for a (probably) much lower cost than bradford was signed at. Its a no brainer pick and even if it fails, you dont lose that much (in terms of.money). If carolina does have the first.pick again, they better pray that the rookie pay scale goes into effect right away so they dont have to pay cam bradford-like numbers. If thats the case, I think the pick luck and look to move cam. But, if they trade the pick, they will make a killing with it.

 
Luck is considered by many to be the best pro QB prospect since Manning. As long as he doesn't get hurt and keeps his completion perentage over 60%, he will be discussed as the top pick and will be considered the most valuable prospect. Whether the team ultimately drafting at 1.01 needs a QB is the only determination of whether he will be the number one pick.
I can't think of a team that has the potential to have the first pick that wouldnt take luck number one. if by some chance.one of new englands picks turns out to be number (or something crazy like that via a previous trade) I still think they take him and let him sit behind brady until his value really explodes/brady slows down. If a team decide against taking him because of what they have, as I said above, that pick is worth wilforks weight in gold. This obviously assumes that luck has a solid year.
 
I cannot remember the last time a team was the top pick in back to back years, I seriously doubt it happens now. Carolina has a new coach, qb and will probably make some improvements in FA (whenever that is). If I had to pick a team now that would finish with the top pick I would guess the Bengals then Bills....

Also, Luck is a lock for the top pick just like Locker was last year. Aside from Sam Bradford, not often does a player who is a probable top overall pick, return to school and end up the top pick the next year. Coaches/Scouts have an entire year to find holes with a top prospect.
Cleveland Browns took Tim Couch #1 overall in 1999, and Courtney Brown #1 overall in 2000. Before that, the Bengals took Dan Wilkinson and Kijana Carter #1 overall in 94 and 95.
Cleveland was an expansion team. Carolina is a year removed from an 8-8 season; they are not as bad as their record was in 2010. Their running game and defense were both reasonable.
 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.

How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?

 
I'd guess he has about an 80% chance of going #1 and a 10% chance of going #2 (most likely behind another QB, in a Manning vs. Leaf kind of duel). He's a much better prospect than guys like Locker, Brohm, and Leinart were at this point their careers, and if Carolina could have drafted him this year as a Developmental pick (allowing them to hold his rights even though he was staying in college) they would have jumped at the chance. If the team with the first pick doesn't want a QB, another team will be happy to trade up for him.

 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
IMO, the likely candidates for the #1 pick are the Titans, Bengals, Redskins, Panthers, and Cardinals. The only teams that would hesitate to take Luck are the Titans and Panthers (presuming Kolb either sucks or isn't on one of these teams). So, it's pretty likely he's #1 unless he self-destructs.
 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
 
There is going to be two stud OT in the draft next year....I could see Luck being passed on at one. (J.Martin Stanford,M.Kalil USC)

 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.

How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
IMO, the likely candidates for the #1 pick are the Titans, Bengals, Redskins, Panthers, and Cardinals.

The only teams that would hesitate to take Luck are the Titans and Panthers (presuming Kolb either sucks or isn't on one of these teams). So, it's pretty likely he's #1 unless he self-destructs.
I think you could throw Jacksonville and Miami into the running. The Bills always have a shot at #1 too. And the Lions.

 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.

How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
IMO, the likely candidates for the #1 pick are the Titans, Bengals, Redskins, Panthers, and Cardinals.

The only teams that would hesitate to take Luck are the Titans and Panthers (presuming Kolb either sucks or isn't on one of these teams). So, it's pretty likely he's #1 unless he self-destructs.
I think you could throw Jacksonville and Miami into the running. The Bills always have a shot at #1 too. And the Lions.
Exactly. At this point last year, Carolina was coming off a "disappointing" 8-8 season, Moore was the QB, with Clausen becoming the future if Moore faltered...365 days later, it is a mess.We often talk about the NFL being a league of parity in regards to the fact that almost anyone can get to the playoffs...I think we forget that almost anyone can get the #1 pick too.

I have thought about this for a while and agree with a couple of posters above that the #1 pick team would more than likely take Luck. In fact, there is just a short list of teams who would either trade the pick or take Luck and then move him. Here are thoughts on these teams (mind you, this is all assuming he plays at a level close to 2010):

San Diego: Rivers is still in his prime and it would make no sense to take Luck

Green Bay: Same situation

St. Louis: Bradford is just one year in, and has done everything to justify his selection as #1 overall.

Atlanta: Ryan has also done a nice job in his first few years and ATL could use the picks for help in other areas....especially since they sold the farm to get Jones.

Baltimore: I think Flacco is "young enough/good enough" for an aging team like Baltimore to package #1 for a couple of impact players (via actual trade or additional picks)

New Orleans: Obviously Brees has done nothing to warrant getting replaced...with that said, I think this decision is harder than it may seem on the surface. But when you add in his age (in two years we would not be having this conversation), his play (lights out) and what he has meant to a rebuilding city (and franchise at the same time), I see them taking the picks.

New York Giants: These guys would be the Wild Card. This has less to do with Manning and more to do with how they like to run the team. Jerry Reece would not feel comfortable knowing he could have had a ton of picks over a two year period when his QB is "fine enough".

Chicago: Late addition...thought long about this one, and this has more to do with what they gave up for Cutler and just the general publicity about his being the man versus skills...with that said, he is young, he throws TDs and would have three years vested in the offense (well, two with Martz). I don't see him going anywhere in the next 12 months.

...and that is the list...and I am probably wrong about a couple of those. Anyone else would keep the pick and take Luck, bar none.

 
I think there's a good reason Washington passed on a QB in the draft, and took multiple WR's and a few RB's. A year to learn the system, then they get Andrew Luck....a good plan IMO. Washington won't win more than 3 games this season.

 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
No comparison between the two talent wise.
 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
No comparison between the two talent wise.
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I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.

How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
IMO, the likely candidates for the #1 pick are the Titans, Bengals, Redskins, Panthers, and Cardinals.

The only teams that would hesitate to take Luck are the Titans and Panthers (presuming Kolb either sucks or isn't on one of these teams). So, it's pretty likely he's #1 unless he self-destructs.
I think you could throw Jacksonville and Miami into the running. The Bills always have a shot at #1 too. And the Lions.
I agree with all the teams you guys mentioned except the lions. Wouldn't be surprised with any of these teams either: Vikings, Browns, Broncos, 49ers & Seahawks
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.

How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
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I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
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Dr. Seuss will do that to you :loco:
 
I think with the chance of so many teams playing a rookie QB that any of them could finish the season with the 1st pick. I also think that if one of those teams ends up with the 1st pick that they wouldn't hesitate to upgrade at the position.How much of a lock could Andrew Luck lock if Andrew Luck could lock a lock?
Locker was a lock but was unlucky hopefully luck won't be like Locker. That was just unlucky.
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Dr. Seuss will do that to you :loco:
I tried saying that fast and couldn't do it.
 
I don't think it is a lock at all (there is no such thing as a lock). He is really challenging himself as there are many changes for him this upcoming season. I will say if he performs similar to his last season he will deserve that much more credit due to the change in circumstances. For the first time in my dynasty league we could see a QB go #1 overall in the rookie draft. Even if his play slips he seems like he has a good head on his shoulders and I don't foresee him falling out of the top 10. But to say he is lock to be #1 with the upcoming season yet to be played is premature.

 
Luck is considered by many to be the best pro QB prospect since Manning. As long as he doesn't get hurt and keeps his completion perentage over 60%, he will be discussed as the top pick and will be considered the most valuable prospect. Whether the team ultimately drafting at 1.01 needs a QB is the only determination of whether he will be the number one pick.
I can't think of a team that has the potential to have the first pick that wouldnt take luck number one. if by some chance.one of new englands picks turns out to be number (or something crazy like that via a previous trade) I still think they take him and let him sit behind brady until his value really explodes/brady slows down. If a team decide against taking him because of what they have, as I said above, that pick is worth wilforks weight in gold. This obviously assumes that luck has a solid year.
I'm actually with you on this. It's just a minor caveat since QB is a need position to draft moreso than any other.
 

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