Is Musk now dead to the left? (1 Viewer)

[rockaction]

Also, blink tags!

 

[supermike80]

Don't want to speak for the OP, but I suspect that it's probably his general association with Tech and Silicon Valley.  Twitter and Google in particular seem to be considered left wing by those on the right wing, and I suspect that general impression gets spread to most of the major tech companies.  There's definitely a cult of personality associated with Elon, but I'm not sure I would consider it skewing particularly left wing.

To me, the latest Musk thing reminds me a lot of the Kanye stuff - an independent minded individual somewhat unexpectedly echoing points made by the right.  They even both gave their kids bizarre names.

Fair.  I always kind of viewed him as a bit of a left poster child.    And again, why that makes this board so mad baffles me.  I mean you do have people on the left right?  Strange how you can ever seem to say that here without many on the board getting super mad.  

 

[Thunderlips]

Fair.  I always kind of viewed him as a bit of a left poster child.    And again, why that makes this board so mad baffles me.  I mean you do have people on the left right?  Strange how you can ever seem to say that here without many on the board getting super mad.  

I think Musk is an acceptable style businessman to alot of Left leaning people.  They're not going to click 100% with him.....but he's much better than the traditional styled businessman/mogul that's usually more associated with The Right.

Ironically, that was one of the better aspects of Trump back in the day.  Before he courted the Far Right and stoked Obama and Liberal hatred amongst the rank and file to a frenzy. 

 

[belljr]

People were mad?

I missed those posts

 

[supermike80]

I think Musk is an acceptable style businessman to alot of Left leaning people.  They're not going to click 100% with him.....but he's much better than the traditional styled businessman/mogul that's usually more associated with The Right.

Ironically, that was one of the better aspects of Trump back in the day.  Before he courted the Far Right and stoked Obama and Liberal hatred amongst the rank and file to a frenzy. 

Exactly.  I didn't make it up. His commitment to electric vehicles seems to fit well with the climate activists, which is certainly a group that leans much further left than not.  Had no idea so many would get so wound up about someone being put on their side.

 

[Roy L Fewks]

Exactly.  I didn't make it up. His commitment to electric vehicles seems to fit well with the climate activists, which is certainly a group that leans much further left than not.  Had no idea so many would get so wound up about someone being put on their side.

Might want to expand your horizons a bit. Not every vegetarian is a hippie liberal anymore.

 

[supermike80]

Might want to expand your horizons a bit. Not every vegetarian is a hippie liberal anymore.

I don't understand this post.  what does this have to do with vegetarians?  Is Elon a vegetarian?

And...was there a time when all vegetarians were liberal hippies?   This is a really hard post to understand.  Can you expand please?

 

[belljr]

Triple!!! Do I hear a quadruple?

I strenuously object!;;

 

[JbizzleMan]

From the inner webs. 

He thinks he's Rosa Parks when he's just space Karen.

  

 

[huthut]

He has always been a fraud, he has done nothing revolutionary himself, outside of investing his rich parents apartheid emerald mine money into some companies and getting lucky. He did not invent or do anything significant with Tesla outside of buy out the original inventor and make it look like he did something. He is a complete blowhard and you can find more competent engineers and inventors in most colleges undergraduate physics classes. I am fully convinced the books for his companies are cooked and there is going to be some sort of Enron like scandal in the future. His only focus is on self aggrandizement. 

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Fair.  I always kind of viewed him as a bit of a left poster child.    And again, why that makes this board so mad baffles me.  I mean you do have people on the left right?  Strange how you can ever seem to say that here without many on the board getting super mad.  

Musk was well liked by a small set of uber wealthy people who my wife and I refer to as “limp liberals.”  Mainstream left people never cared about him.  Far left (which we call “the loony left”) have never liked him.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Stone Cold tragically dead to the right.

 

[sho nuff]

Stone Cold tragically dead to the right.

Strip off the communism.

 

[TripItUp]

Aren't all job producers and wealth builders dead to the left and vice versa?

Republican policy builds wealth, Democratic policy destroys it.  It is what it is.

 

[The Future Champs]

Aren't all job producers and wealth builders dead to the left and vice versa?

Republican policy builds wealth, Democratic policy destroys it.  It is what it is.

You have a wonderfully simplistic view of the world.

 

[TripItUp]

You have a wonderfully simplistic view of the world.

Clearly I'm generalizing, but I believe those to be accurate generalizations.

There is a reason why socialist nations lag far behind capitalist nations in wealth creation.

 

[sho nuff]

Aren't all job producers and wealth builders dead to the left and vice versa?

Republican policy builds wealth, Democratic policy destroys it.  It is what it is.

You mean it is a complete false assertion unsupported by anything factual and just meant to get a reaction from people?

 

[The General]

Clearly I'm generalizing, but I believe those to be accurate generalizations.

There is a reason why socialist nations lag far behind capitalist nations in wealth creation.

Oh I see. Just a little generalization. 

 

[The Future Champs]

Clearly I'm generalizing, but I believe those to be accurate generalizations.

There is a reason why socialist nations lag far behind capitalist nations in wealth creation.

And Democrats = socialists, yes?  Still simplistic.   And wrong.  But hey, you live in your bubble.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Strip off the communism.

That's just stone cold.

 

[TripItUp]

And Democrats = socialists, yes?  Still simplistic.  

They are more socialist than Republicans, we can all agree to that.

 

[TripItUp]

You mean it is a complete false assertion unsupported by anything factual and just meant to get a reaction from people?

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

 

[The General]

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

Oil nations?

 

[sho nuff]

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

That really doesn’t address what I said whatsoever.  Try again.  Job producers being dead to the left.  Bogus point to get a reaction.  Try again.

 

[The Future Champs]

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

Scandinavian countries are pretty well represented on that list, and a lot closer to socialism than the US.   Is that the trend you're referring to?

 

[The Future Champs]

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

Also, most of those countries have socialized medical systems.  That's a really obvious trend.   

 

[The Future Champs]

Linky

 

[The Future Champs]

They are more socialist than Republicans, we can all agree to that.

And Republicans are closer to Nazi's, so it's fair to call them Nazi's, by that logic.

 

[Amused to Death]

Linky

18 of the other 24 countries on that list have a longer life expectancy than the US.

 

[huthut]

18 of the other 24 countries on that list have a longer life expectancy than the US.

Yea, but they only pay a fraction of what we pay for healthcare, so we are still #1. 

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Linky

Wow.  Lots of countries that Republicans would consider 'socialist', are doing quite well.

 

[Chaz McNulty]

Go through the exercise of listing the most wealthy nations per capita...obvious trends will become apparent for you.

What are the countries that you consider socialist?  Or are we just talking that they are more socialist than the US?  Would you consider all the countries with social medical care to be socialist?

 

[Amused to Death]

Yea, but they only pay a fraction of what we pay for healthcare, so we are still #1. 

According to Business Insider, the US is the most expensive for healthcare and we rank 27th for level of healthcare.

We're #1!

 

[Widbil83]

Definitely dead with the left.

Elon Musk@elonmusk

Cancel Cancel Culture!

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1262783922708058113?s=21

 

[kface]

Be interesting to see where he is at because his wife is very much a socialist and full of left wing views

 

[huthut]

Be interesting to see where he is at because his wife is very much a socialist and full of left wing views

Nah, she is just as big of a phony as he is, and has defended his union busting and donations to Republicans. 

 

[kface]

Nah, she is just as big of a phony as he is, and has defended his union busting and donations to Republicans. 

she has also marched for women and for climate change and for indigenous injustice....

they might both be phonies for sure...no argument there

 

[The General]

Tesla launches initiative to build first solar neighborhood in Austin

 

[sho nuff]

I guess this can relate to this thread…Musk, Bezos and Branson…yes they are free to do what they wish with their money…but I have a ton more respect and admiration for how what Gates has dine than their quest for more fame.

That said…it seems Musk is more about exploration and things that may yield more for humanity long term than Bezos and Branson who, at least in the surface, just want to stroke their egos with these space plane things…

 

[tonydead]

I guess this can relate to this thread…Musk, Bezos and Branson…yes they are free to do what they wish with their money…but I have a ton more respect and admiration for how what Gates has dine than their quest for more fame.

That said…it seems Musk is more about exploration and things that may yield more for humanity long term than Bezos and Branson who, at least in the surface, just want to stroke their egos with these space plane things…

Why is it so important how Bill eats?

 

[tonydead]

I guess this can relate to this thread…Musk, Bezos and Branson…yes they are free to do what they wish with their money…but I have a ton more respect and admiration for how what Gates has dine than their quest for more fame.

That said…it seems Musk is more about exploration and things that may yield more for humanity long term than Bezos and Branson who, at least in the surface, just want to stroke their egos with these space plane things…

Bezos and Bezos' wife take the #1 and #2 spots in giving money to philanthropy.

Link.

 

[Bottomfeeder Sports]

I guess this can relate to this thread…Musk, Bezos and Branson…yes they are free to do what they wish with their money…but I have a ton more respect and admiration for how what Gates has dine than their quest for more fame.

That said…it seems Musk is more about exploration and things that may yield more for humanity long term than Bezos and Branson who, at least in the surface, just want to stroke their egos with these space plane things…

I'm not sure these guys are in the space race for the fame.  I don't even think they are in it for the money.  They are chasing dreams in a way only rich guys can chase them, but I'm pretty satisfied that humanity is going to benefit more than it will be harmed by both their successes and failures.  Sure in the beginning it will be joyrides for the most wealthy but one day not to far off these joyride capabilities will likely find purposes with more universal utility.

 

[sho nuff]

I'm not sure these guys are in the space race for the fame.  I don't even think they are in it for the money.  They are chasing dreams in a way only rich guys can chase them, but I'm pretty satisfied that humanity is going to benefit more than it will be harmed by both their successes and failures.  Sure in the beginning it will be joyrides for the most wealthy but one day not to far off these joyride capabilities will likely find purposes with more universal utility.

We can always hope yeah.

 

[tonydead]

We can always hope yeah.

You could allways revise your previous post if the fever has broken.