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Is S. Young even worth a roster spot? (1 Viewer)

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With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........assuming you believe this, is Selman even woth your last roster spot?

Assume you would have to drop a just-above-waiver-wire quality player (F Taylor/E. Graham type) to keep Selman on your roster, would you really waste a roster spot on a standard 16 player roster to do it? Especially given that even after a suspension starts, there is no way to know if he really gets/keeps the job?

I don't think so.

 
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I picked him up.....you can't wait to find out if Henry can go the distance. If Henry goes down or can't go certain weeks, this guy coulc easily be a top 10 candidate vs. the right defense.

 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........assuming you believe this, is Selman even woth your last roster spot?Assume you would have to drop a just-above-waiver-wire quality player (F Taylor/E. Graham type) to keep Selman on your roster, would you really waste a roster spot on a standard 16 player roster to do it? Especially given that even after a suspension starts, there is no way to know if he really gets/keeps the job?I don't think so.
First off, it is Selvin. Second, Yes, he is most certainly worth a roster spot. How could he not be? With what is looming over Henry's head and the past evidence of Denver RB success, he's perfect for rostering.
 
I picked him up. 12 team league, limited to 4 RB's. Dropped Jamal Lewis (have Parker, R.Brown and Maroney). I'm 1-3, desperate times call for desperate measures.

 
I picked him up. 12 team league, limited to 4 RB's. Dropped Jamal Lewis (have Parker, R.Brown and Maroney). I'm 1-3, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Dropped a guy getting 25 opportunities a game, to get a guy that may or may not get 20 carries a month from now??
 
I thought Andre Hall was worth a roster spot, so I figure all of these guys are. :pokey:

The real answer to "is it worth it", is "what does it cost"?

That hamburger is definitely "worth it" at $1 but I wouldn't pay $100 for it, much less $10.

So I'd buy that Selvin Young for my WR4/5 in a start two league, no doubt. But I currently wouldn't pay a WR2 or a RB3 on my roster for him.

 
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With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........assuming you believe this, is Selman even woth your last roster spot?

Assume you would have to drop a just-above-waiver-wire quality player (F Taylor/E. Graham type) to keep Selman on your roster, would you really waste a roster spot on a standard 16 player roster to do it? Especially given that even after a suspension starts, there is no way to know if he really gets/keeps the job?

I don't think so.
'nuff said
 
I picked him up. 12 team league, limited to 4 RB's. Dropped Jamal Lewis (have Parker, R.Brown and Maroney). I'm 1-3, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Dropped a guy getting 25 opportunities a game, to get a guy that may or may not get 20 carries a month from now??
Not sure I agree with that either. It's important to keep in mind that prior to last week Young was a non-factor in the offense in terms of rushing attempts. He only had 7 carries in the first three weeks combined. As long as Henry is healthy, he'll be the primary ballcarrier and it isn't going to be close. The only chance Young has of contributing for the next month is maybe if Shanahan likes what he's seen enough to get him a little more involved and give him 5-10 touches a game. But that's probably the ceiling in my opinion.In leagues with tight roster limits it's a major gamble to pick up Young and drop a proven producer - and while I'm no big fan of Jamal Lewis, he's definitely producing. I'd only do so if my roster was stacked and I could afford to waste a roster spot for a month or so. Or I'd do so with the expressed intent of trying to trade him. That would definitely be another option. But if roster limits are tight in your league, I think it's a huge gamble to pick him up. With byes and so many injuries hitting, it's very risky to have dead weight on your roster for a month or more. And right now, Selvin Young is dead weight.In larger leagues, it's a no brainer to pick him up and he may be gone in most of those leagues already.
 
Fresh from the wires:

Proclaiming himself sufficiently recovered from the knee and ankle injuries that kept him out of practice for much of the week, Broncos tailback Travis Henry, who is facing a one-year ban from the league for a repeat violation of the substance abuse policy, said Friday that he intends to play in Sunday's game against the Chargers.

"I'm going to play Sunday," Henry said after Friday's practice, the only session in which he participated all week.

Broncos coach Mike Shanahan also said that, barring any physical setback, Henry will be in the lineup against San Diego.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton

 
I was sitting on DJ Hackett, I dropped him for Selvin, bt I think I will try to sell him the the Henry owner.

 
I would trade Young away if I could get a good deal... that backfield will be a mess if Henry is gone.
I'd bet whatever I have in my pocket(which probably isn't much) that this will turn out to be the shark move. Move him before the RBBC hell begins...
 
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With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
 
I think this could drag out longer then some expect. The legal angle, in Federal court, could take 2 - 4 weeks to resolve and if Henry loses that and gets suspended by the NFL, I believe he can then appeal. That process may take a few weeks and I believe he can play while appealing the suspension.

I also would not pay too much for Young. Saying Shannahan was not going to use RBBC with Henry is one thing, but to think he won't do so with Young in there is another. While I can see Young starting, I think Sapp and Bell will be worked in, especially in short yardage, then you also have Hall who can steal carries and receptions. To think Young will get all the touches Henry was getting, or to automatically assume he'll be successful because he has been in a change of pace role, is silly IMO. He's worth a roster spot for sure, but only at the right price.

 
I picked him up. 12 team league, limited to 4 RB's. Dropped Jamal Lewis (have Parker, R.Brown and Maroney). I'm 1-3, desperate times call for desperate measures.
Dropped a guy getting 25 opportunities a game, to get a guy that may or may not get 20 carries a month from now??
Those guys deep on your bench rarely play. I prefer to swing for the fences and take chances with my #4 RB.
 
I think this could drag out longer then some expect. The legal angle, in Federal court, could take 2 - 4 weeks to resolve and if Henry loses that and gets suspended by the NFL, I believe he can then appeal. That process may take a few weeks and I believe he can play while appealing the suspension.
The appeal is reviewed by the Commissioner & while under Tags, appeals could be drawn out, Goodell has been issuing his ruling on appeals, the very day they've been submitted. I doubt Goodell allows Henry's appeal to drag on for weeks.
 
Everything I read says to get Selvin Young on your roster. He will be a star in the Denver system. I do not like the possibility that he might be a waste of a spot for 4 weeks though. I am sitting here with Derrick Mason, Javon Walker, and Anquan Boldin, - all injured. I need players to play, now. I am 2-2 and at a crucial time. Currently, I have Young on my roster, but I am really debating whether I keep him around.

Andre Davis and Michael Pittman are both sitting on the WW and they are both looking serviceable.

 
I think he is worth a roster spot for sure. I can't see him winning the appeal. The NFL will win and he will be suspended. You know whoever gets the ball in Den will be a star. History has proven that. I grabbed him and hoping it pays off.

 
Is Cecil Sapp or Mike Bell?
Yes and yes.Given Shannie's propensity to run his backs into the ground, either or both now have some fantasy value (versus the negligible to none in redraft leagues and minimal in dynasty leagues that they previously possessed).Caveat - in redraft leagues, I would not jump on these guys and dump a valuable player unless you have a pretty big roster or serious dead weight that you are ready to dump. Moreover, I think it will be after the bye week before either back becomes a player you must target quickly.
 
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With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.Selvin Young should already be rostered in just about every league imaginible, and if he is available in one of yours, dump your RB4 or WR4 to get him. It is SOOOO worth the risk and the wait.

 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.
Which would be in the two to four week timeframe that Clayton's League sources are telling him & just in time for Selvin to face the Pittsburgh, Green Bay run defenses.
 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.
Which would be in the two to four week timeframe that Clayton's League sources are telling him & just in time for Selvin to face the Pittsburgh, Green Bay run defenses.
True - but I am not sure what your point is here.If you would roster Henry, you should roster Young - if you would play Henry v. Pitt/GB, you should play Young.

 
Everything I read says to get Selvin Young on your roster. He will be a star in the Denver system. I do not like the possibility that he might be a waste of a spot for 4 weeks though. I am sitting here with Derrick Mason, Javon Walker, and Anquan Boldin, - all injured. I need players to play, now. I am 2-2 and at a crucial time. Currently, I have Young on my roster, but I am really debating whether I keep him around. Andre Davis and Michael Pittman are both sitting on the WW and they are both looking serviceable.
When Ricky Watters was blowing up in Seattle but started to get hobbled, I picked up some guy named Shaun Alexander and caught lightening in a bottle once Watters eventually went down. Henry is going down this year at some point and Young is next in line. Risk vs Reward...keep him or trade him, but don't drop him...
 
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With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.
Which would be in the two to four week timeframe that Clayton's League sources are telling him & just in time for Selvin to face the Pittsburgh, Green Bay run defenses.
True - but I am not sure what your point is here.If you would roster Henry, you should roster Young - if you would play Henry v. Pitt/GB, you should play Young.
Not so sure it's the slam dunk that you make it out to be Marc.While we have a large body of work to judge Henry by as a fulltime starter, from his years in Buffalo, Tenn & now Denver, we have no fulltime NFL work to judge Young by.

Young is going to get his fulltime RB gig baptism by fire, against a couple of the NFL's best run D's. Might give pause for thought to some people who have other decent options at RB.

Now if you don't have any other decent RB options, then yes, Young is a no brainer start.

 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.
Which would be in the two to four week timeframe that Clayton's League sources are telling him & just in time for Selvin to face the Pittsburgh, Green Bay run defenses.
True - but I am not sure what your point is here.If you would roster Henry, you should roster Young - if you would play Henry v. Pitt/GB, you should play Young.
While we have a large body of work to judge Henry by as a fulltime starter, from his years in Buffalo, Tenn & now Denver, we have no fulltime NFL work to judge Young by.
But we do have a large body of work to judge.......the results of starting running backs for the Broncos over the last several years.
 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.Selvin Young should already be rostered in just about every league imaginible, and if he is available in one of yours, dump your RB4 or WR4 to get him. It is SOOOO worth the risk and the wait.
Marc - If you had to chose, would you chose to keep Young OVER Henry in a redraft?
 
Dropped Losman, Mark Clayton and Darrell Jackson for Keith, Young & G.Jennings

Not much to risk but I'm pretty high on the kid

 
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........assuming you believe this, is Selman even woth your last roster spot?
I depends on a number of factors, including whether or not you own Henry, how deep your RB roster is (4/5), and if you don't own Henry, how bad off will the Henry owner be if Henry goes out.In one league I have Henry and dropped B. Jacobs to get Young. We get to roster 4 RB's and start up to 3. I also have Foster and K. Jones. I crunched the numbers using Lineup Dominator, and if Henry goes down, I'm toast. I'm assuming S. Young will have comparable numbers in the DEN system (see Anderson, Mike - 2006).In another league (another roster 4 RB's, start 3) I don't have Henry and I have Parker, Porstis, Green and Jordan. No way I drop anybody to take a flyer on Young.However, if I had a weak #4, or we rostered 5 RB's, I would consider picking up Young and trading him to the Henry owner within the next couple of weeks before anybody knows what Young will really do.
 
gump said:
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.Selvin Young should already be rostered in just about every league imaginible, and if he is available in one of yours, dump your RB4 or WR4 to get him. It is SOOOO worth the risk and the wait.
Marc - If you had to chose, would you chose to keep Young OVER Henry in a redraft?
Why would I have to choose? Is there a rush to dump a player?
 
gump said:
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.Selvin Young should already be rostered in just about every league imaginible, and if he is available in one of yours, dump your RB4 or WR4 to get him. It is SOOOO worth the risk and the wait.
Marc - If you had to chose, would you chose to keep Young OVER Henry in a redraft?
Why would I have to choose? Is there a rush to dump a player?
This is why hypotheticals are fun. Just answer the question, gb.
 
gump said:
With the latest report that Travis Henry WILL play (espn.com/ link elsewhere)and John Clayton guessing that his potential suspension won't begin for at least a month...........
Clayton is not "guessing" on this. He's basing the 2 to 4 weeks info, from his League connections.
League sources said Friday that it could be two to four weeks before the matter is resolved. During that time, it is expected that Henry will continue playing.

Taken from espn reported by John Clayton
While that is true, this will probably be resolved by the time Denver returns from its bye week.Selvin Young should already be rostered in just about every league imaginible, and if he is available in one of yours, dump your RB4 or WR4 to get him. It is SOOOO worth the risk and the wait.
Marc - If you had to chose, would you chose to keep Young OVER Henry in a redraft?
Why would I have to choose? Is there a rush to dump a player?
This is why hypotheticals are fun. Just answer the question, gb.
OK- if I have a winning record and solid RBs besides those two guys, I'd trade Henry away for whatever I could get and keep SYoung. If I am in a win now situation, I keep THenry b/c I know I am getting at least this week's game out of him and maybe more. Victories now are worth more than victoiries later. I trade away SYoung for maximum value at an area of need - with the current volatility of the situation, I might even land a decent RB2 for him.regardless, I do not drop either player - I drop someone else.

 

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