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Is the NFL rigging games? (1 Viewer)
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There are countless other videos with NFL footage on YouTube that they don’t complain about.
The General
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That is the most butthurt Niner fan of all time 
dschuler
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The NFL rules are just garbage in general, by far worse than any major sport. When a small penalty is the equivalent of an INT, it definitely alters games. They don’t know what a catch is, what is pass interference, roughing, a personal foul, etc. The lack of consistency from game to game and even play to play is frustrating.
The league has an identity crisis, not a cheating crisis. Lack of consistency even spotting the ball after a runner goes down is frustrating. Lack of consistency on when to let plays go and then they blow the whistle on a defensive TD and the other team scores on the same drive. Lack of consistency saying you need clear evidence to overturn it, and sometimes when it looks clear the call still doesn’t get overturned. It won’t be injuries that kill football, it will be themselves. Almost every game there are calls and mistakes that occur and still get missed in 2018 and change the outcome of games.
I think the NFL at one time wanted this chaos, as it generated buzz for people to talk about. More importantly, uncertainty and inconsistent officiating naturally creates parity, which is another thing the league is striving for.
The league has an identity crisis, not a cheating crisis. Lack of consistency even spotting the ball after a runner goes down is frustrating. Lack of consistency on when to let plays go and then they blow the whistle on a defensive TD and the other team scores on the same drive. Lack of consistency saying you need clear evidence to overturn it, and sometimes when it looks clear the call still doesn’t get overturned. It won’t be injuries that kill football, it will be themselves. Almost every game there are calls and mistakes that occur and still get missed in 2018 and change the outcome of games.
I think the NFL at one time wanted this chaos, as it generated buzz for people to talk about. More importantly, uncertainty and inconsistent officiating naturally creates parity, which is another thing the league is striving for.
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msudaisy26
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Sullie
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For what it's worth, I don't think the NFL is rigged but I do think there's plenty of room for improvement.
I didn't realize this but, according this article in the NY Times, the NFL already chips footballs. To me it defies logic why they wouldn't use that chip, that's already in the ball, to spot the ball. I know there's a lot to it but the NFL is a multi-billion dollar company, they could certainly afford to figure it out.
I didn't realize this but, according this article in the NY Times, the NFL already chips footballs. To me it defies logic why they wouldn't use that chip, that's already in the ball, to spot the ball. I know there's a lot to it but the NFL is a multi-billion dollar company, they could certainly afford to figure it out.
Jayrod
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Try and figure out the actual logistics of this and get back to me. It is nearly impossible to implement because of the rules on when the play is considered dead, which are a vital part of how all of football is played. The system has to determine the exact moment when the ballcarrier is down, which no chip can do.
ETA: Spotting the ball in the NFL is actually incredibly accurate. Sure there are occasional mistakes, but those guys are remarkable at it.
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Sullie
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Leroy Hoard
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Little known fact: Roger Goodell has an inside line to Vegas that tells them the results in advance so they can set the lines in their favor. Vegas then kicks him back millions which he then distributes to the officials that worked the games in little pink envelopes.
When you consider how little money everyone involved makes, you will start to understand why these guys routinely throw games. Sometimes they even throw games for the hell of it, because they can.
Jayrod
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I'm just saying what we have is pretty close to the best option at this point. There could be something better down the road, but a chipped ball doesn't know when the play is dead. Computers and technology still haven't reached the point of the computing speed of the human eye/brain combo.
There are plenty of things wrong with the NFL. The ball spotting system is very low on that list if at all.
Juxtatarot
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Saw an article on player technology touting how they could tell where a player was at all times "to within 6 inches."
Which sounds great, but got to thinking...if that's the level of precision they have now, it won't be useful at all in the ball for goalline plays. Plus or minus 6 inches on a goal line play is obvious enough that the refs get those right 99.9% of the time (the remaining 0.1% involving Testeverde's head). The plays we really want the tech for are more like plus or minus 2-3 inches.
And where in the ball is the sensor? Probably not on the very tip, but in the middle. Which means the rules would have to change so that scoring is no longer "break the plane" but "push the middle of the ball across the line. Ugh.
I love the idea of getting this done with tech rather than elderly eyes from meters away. But sounds like we need one more order of magnitude improvement in the technology itself before this can become reality.
parasaurolophus
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The chain gang has always irritated the heck out of me. Doesnt somebody still have to estimate where to spot the start of the chain on the sideline?
brettdj
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If you notice, most 1st downs start on a yard line. Makes measurements easier.
Jayrod
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Word that I have heard in reffing circles is that the NFL likes the drama of it.
Dead serious, I had an NFL official tell me that.
TheFanatic
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Most of that is just bad officiating, but the timing stuff and the play clock has me wondering.
Phil Elliott
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Joe fan thinks its a game. NFL knows its just entertainment.
DocHolliday
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ShamrockPride
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Rigged? No.
But that said, I never thought I'd see the day where NFL officiating became more laughable and outrageous than the NBA. I think that finally happened this season. It's because catching a damn ball is a 38 step process. Like wtf.
But that said, I never thought I'd see the day where NFL officiating became more laughable and outrageous than the NBA. I think that finally happened this season. It's because catching a damn ball is a 38 step process. Like wtf.
BoltBacker
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I couldn't agree with this more.
I finally had to stop watching the NBA despite playing and loving the game of basketball my entire life. Just Joey Crawford himself was an abomination let alone all the other ego-maniacal refs of that era. Combine that with Tim Donaghy. He knew outcomes of games he wasn't even officiating because he new certain other officials hated particular players/coaches. Then you add in the fact the league would send a special memo "reinforcing" certain rules in the middle of a playoff series to maximize TV ratings? It became a complete and utter joke.
I'm not saying the NFL is rigged(yet) but I were interested in rigging the NFL I would have rules that fundamentally change the outcome of a game that are either so ambiguous nobody even knows what the final decision will be after 100 replays(reception rule) or they are a pure judgement call that can't be reviewed(pass interference/holding). All it takes a handful of those plays and a losing team can turn into a winning team. Not every game, but enough.
