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Is Wes Welker playing in week 11? (1 Viewer)
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David Yudkin
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I am pretty sure Welker was at practice the past couple of practices but was listed as "limited" due to a team decision. I do not think there is anything particularly "wrong" with him, although I will see what I can dig up.
The Pats also have been going with a lighter practice schedule this year. They have had fewer practices in general and again another practice this week in shorts and sweatpants (something they for the most part have done seemingly once a week of late).
The Pats also have been going with a lighter practice schedule this year. They have had fewer practices in general and again another practice this week in shorts and sweatpants (something they for the most part have done seemingly once a week of late).
Thanks, David. Your inside Patriots info has won me a couple of games this year.
mozzy84
Footballguy
found this
The Patriots returned to practice on Monday this week so they're not overworking their players on Wednesday and Thursday.
Starting QB Tom Brady (right shoulder), backup CB Eddie Jackson (knee), starting G Steve Neal (shoulder), starting OLB Mike Vrabel (rest), and #3 WR Wes Welker (rest) were all limited again Thursday. They're expected to be available in their normal roles for the game.
The Patriots returned to practice on Monday this week so they're not overworking their players on Wednesday and Thursday.
Starting QB Tom Brady (right shoulder), backup CB Eddie Jackson (knee), starting G Steve Neal (shoulder), starting OLB Mike Vrabel (rest), and #3 WR Wes Welker (rest) were all limited again Thursday. They're expected to be available in their normal roles for the game.
I believe they did this with Branch a lot. I seem to remember him never playing a preseason game even though he was healthy.Welker is 155 lbs, a few days off on a long season would help.
barista
Footballguy
yeah but why do that off the BYE week? I can see it a few games ago or a few games from now... oh well. I'll wait on the INJ report
Giants4Life
Footballguy
As long as he gets his 8 catches for 80 yards, they can rest him as much as they want.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Just heard back. Still don't know why he wasn't practicing fully, but Welker is fine and there is no reason to expect him not to play or be limited in any capacity. This is a non issue as far as I can tell.
twitch
Footballguy
More like 185. The guy's small, but not quite that small. I dont know of anyone in the league that light. Not even Roscoe Parrish. He's 171. Now, that's light.
Can you post your scoring system? In my league we only get points for stats on the field.j/k...this is definitely the year to have access to DY's Patriot info
pats2kdynasty
Footballguy
Thanks Barista for directing me here and thanks David for calming fears concerning Welker (FP stud) playing.
Is Welker a good play this week? I believe Watson is back and healthy. I assume Stallworth is as healthy as he has been all season.
I think like most Welker owners, I grabbed him late in the draft and I have 4 other good options at WR. He's not in the "must start" category for me and I debate whether to start him every week.
DY: your thought? The FBG projections have him as a solid #2 WR. Do you start him no matter what?
I think like most Welker owners, I grabbed him late in the draft and I have 4 other good options at WR. He's not in the "must start" category for me and I debate whether to start him every week.
DY: your thought? The FBG projections have him as a solid #2 WR. Do you start him no matter what?
Giants4Life called it perfectly here. It's pretty much a lock that you're getting at least 6 catches with the possibility of getting 10, and the yardage is going to be from 70/80 to approximately 110/115. If you don't want that every week I would love to have your WR3/Flex, which I believe where the majorty of people picked him to fill.
twitch
Footballguy
Isnt Welker pretty much a top 10 WR in most leagues at this point? You cant bench him now. Especially in a prime time game. I wouldnt sweat those 'partial practice' reports for even a fraction of a second. The guy probably caught a cold. Dont worry. He'll play, and he'll play well.
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Yep, he's #6 in my league. But that's for the games played. Kevin Curtis was #1 in my league after his huge game in Detroit, but he hasn't maintained it. I am wondering if he will keep this pace up for the rest of the season.I think for most Welker owners, it makes sense to ride him until he as two sub-par weeks again (see Weeks 3 and 4). But I am fortunate to have some other reasonable options. Not to make this a WDIS thread, but I've got Holt, Burress, Holmes, and Marshall as well. It's a real tough decision whether to start Holmes, Marshall, or Welker each week. The FBG projections suggest that I bench Welker this week.Anyways, I guess the real question is: how will Welker perform the rest of the way? Top 5, Top 10, Top 20?
David Yudkin
Footballguy
The Pats are on pace for almost 650 points scored this year. He's the #6 WR to date this year. Short of having TO, Wayne, Moss, Housh, etc. all on the same fantasy squad, I can't imagine why anyone would bench Welker (unless he has several weeks of no porduction).
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Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Dont forget, this guy almost never gets an offensive play off and he plays special teams. As a Welker owner I hope he doesn't practice again all season.barista said:
twitch
Footballguy
That's essentially a guess by anyone's account. But he's been top 10 thus far, and he's Brady's key short/intermediate receiver. So, in windier or colder conditions, he'll continue to get alot of looks. Buffalo is ranked 26th in the league vs. the pass. The Bills only have 9 sacks on the season, which is close to the bottom of the league. So, for the Buffalo game atleast, I think he'll be money. Probably more consistent than Holmes, but I dont have the #s, so thats just a guess. Id never start Marshall over him, but thats just me. As for the rest of the year, he's given you no reason to doubt him to this point. He's top 6 in TDs, and top 3 in catches. Just keep checking the matchups with Holmes, but Id probably be starting Welker the rest of the way. Youre stacked at WR by the way. Nice drafting.gheemony said:
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Thats why I just love Welker the rest of the way. I think Randy will have the occasional big play however Wes shall be the man in December.
protoslacker
Footballguy
KFFL) Shalise Manza Young, of The Providence Journal, reports New England Patriots WR Wes Welker (team decision) was limited during practice Friday, Nov. 16. He is listed as questionable for Week 11 and will be a game-time decision.
(Rotoworld) Wes Welker (team decision) was limited in practice again Friday and is listed as questionable for Sunday's tilt with Buffalo.
Impact: Welker isn't listed as having been injured at all. The Patriots can be extremely tricky on the injury report, so we won't know his status for certain until just before game time Sunday night. In a matchup with the Bills, who just lost starting slot corner Kiwaukee Thomas to IR, Welker is worth waiting for.
Man! WTF?
(Rotoworld) Wes Welker (team decision) was limited in practice again Friday and is listed as questionable for Sunday's tilt with Buffalo.
Impact: Welker isn't listed as having been injured at all. The Patriots can be extremely tricky on the injury report, so we won't know his status for certain until just before game time Sunday night. In a matchup with the Bills, who just lost starting slot corner Kiwaukee Thomas to IR, Welker is worth waiting for.
Man! WTF?
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HULLOBUDMAN
Footballguy
Watson being back will cause Welker's number to take a hit and be a bit less consistant IMO since he will take some of those short/intermediate looks away.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
My guy still says he's fine. The game time decision part was added by Rotoworld.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
If he is fine why is he listed as questionable?
jerseydevil20
Footballguy
I believe it's because he missed a certain amount of practice. I don't think it's an evaluation of his health...
trader jake
Footballguy
I'd take Yudkin (and his guy's) word on Wes Welker's health over that of Bill Belichick and his injury report. 
ComebackKurt
Footballguy
mozzy84
Footballguy
football injuries practice report...
Starting QB Tom Brady (right shoulder-probable), dime CB Eddie Jackson (knee-probable), and starting G Steve Neal (shoulder-probable) practiced Friday. Brady and Neal will start and Jackson should be available if needed for the game.
Starting OLB Mike Vrabel (rest) and #3 WR Wes Welker were back practicing Friday after their day of rest and they'll play in their usual roles in the game.
Backup LB Eric Alexander (knee-questionable) and starting FS Eugene Wilson (ankle-questionable) missed practice again Friday. Backup S James Sanders is expected to start again for Wilson.
Starting QB Tom Brady (right shoulder-probable), dime CB Eddie Jackson (knee-probable), and starting G Steve Neal (shoulder-probable) practiced Friday. Brady and Neal will start and Jackson should be available if needed for the game.
Starting OLB Mike Vrabel (rest) and #3 WR Wes Welker were back practicing Friday after their day of rest and they'll play in their usual roles in the game.
Backup LB Eric Alexander (knee-questionable) and starting FS Eugene Wilson (ankle-questionable) missed practice again Friday. Backup S James Sanders is expected to start again for Wilson.
kawaihae
Footballguy
Where did you get this quote?
Tanner9919
Footballguy
not sure it matters, this is going to be a coming out party for Maroney..I don't see much passing in the second half, Pats should easily be in control of this game's outcome,by halftime..the Vegas line is off the charts! the Over s HUGE!
as many have indicated elsewhere on this board, BB might have big plans for Maroney down the stretch,when the weather turns colder. He's been suspiciously quiet the past few games..in which he's played,he's been
grossly underutilized. I know he's been hurt, but I agree with some others in here that think BB is playing possum with the NFL in regards to Maroney.
this could be the first game where he gets close to 30 carries, breaks the century mark in rush yards, and scores 2 or more TDs.
this is the game that BB will use to showcase his workhorse starting RB, imo. perfect timing, too, coming off the bye week and all...
as many have indicated elsewhere on this board, BB might have big plans for Maroney down the stretch,when the weather turns colder. He's been suspiciously quiet the past few games..in which he's played,he's been
grossly underutilized. I know he's been hurt, but I agree with some others in here that think BB is playing possum with the NFL in regards to Maroney.
this could be the first game where he gets close to 30 carries, breaks the century mark in rush yards, and scores 2 or more TDs.
this is the game that BB will use to showcase his workhorse starting RB, imo. perfect timing, too, coming off the bye week and all...
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supermark_28
Footballguy
Are you a Maroney owner? Because I gotta be honest,Brady won't be breaking Manning's TD record w/ that gameplan. The Pats have been in control of several games at half only to come out in the 2nd half and continue to pour it on via the pass. I dont see this game as any different,nationally televised game for all to see the passing fireworks.Tanner9919 said:
Tom Servo
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David Yudkin
Footballguy
Welker made the trip to Buffalo. While no one knows what the story is, I still have no reason to believe he won't play. I'll get an update on Sunday direct from the stadium on Sunday, but for now there is nothing else to report. I would not trust all the fantasy sports wires with any Pats news, as they have already proven that their reliability has been sketchy at best.
Here is an interview with Welker in the locker room from Wedsnesday practice this week (IIRC when he first showed up on the injury report), including segments of him talking about facing the Bills. He makes no mention of not playing, and no one even asks him about any injury or if he'll play.
LINK
HERE is a link to the projected started lineups with Welker included.
And for those wondering about the Patriots playing in cold weather . . .
HOT WHEN IT'S COLD
- The Patriots have enjoyed tremendous recent success in cold weather and are 21-3 since 1993 when the kickoff temperature is 34 degrees or less.
- New England has won 16 of its last 18 games when the kickoff temperature has been 34 degrees or colder.
- Since 1993, the Patriots are 21-3 when the it's 34 degrees or colder, and 15-1 when it's 30 degrees or colder.
- Tom Brady is 21-2 as a starter when the temperature is less than 40 degrees.
Here is an interview with Welker in the locker room from Wedsnesday practice this week (IIRC when he first showed up on the injury report), including segments of him talking about facing the Bills. He makes no mention of not playing, and no one even asks him about any injury or if he'll play.
LINK
HERE is a link to the projected started lineups with Welker included.
And for those wondering about the Patriots playing in cold weather . . .
HOT WHEN IT'S COLD
- The Patriots have enjoyed tremendous recent success in cold weather and are 21-3 since 1993 when the kickoff temperature is 34 degrees or less.
- New England has won 16 of its last 18 games when the kickoff temperature has been 34 degrees or colder.
- Since 1993, the Patriots are 21-3 when the it's 34 degrees or colder, and 15-1 when it's 30 degrees or colder.
- Tom Brady is 21-2 as a starter when the temperature is less than 40 degrees.
Mik789fl
Footballguy
I'm not the best at copying or linking from other sites but for what it's worth the following is from The Patriots official web-site,it shows Welker as questionable on Friday but not even on the injury report for Saturday,sorry if I didn't get it all:
Saturday, November 17, 2007 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (9-0)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
LB Alexander, Eric (DNP) Knee
G Neal, Stephen (LP) Shoulder
S Wilson, Eugene (DNP) Ankle
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
CB Jackson, Eddie (LP) Knee
LB Vrabel, Mike (LP) Shoulder
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
QB Brady, Tom (LP) Right Shoulder
BUFFALO BILLS (5-4)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
TE Murphy, Matt (Out) Calf
CB Thomas, Kiwaukee (Out) Groin
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
RB Lynch, Marshawn (DNP) Ankle
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
TE Royal, Robert (LP) Head
DE Schobel, Aaron (FP) Illness
Friday, November 16, 2007 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (9-0)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
LB Alexander, Eric (DNP) Knee
CB Jackson, Eddie (LP) Knee
G Neal, Stephen (LP) Shoulder
LB Vrabel, Mike (LP) Team Decision
WR Welker, Wes (LP) Team Decision
S Wilson, Eugene (DNP) Ankle
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
QB Brady, Tom (LP) Right Shoulder
Saturday, November 17, 2007 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (9-0)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
LB Alexander, Eric (DNP) Knee
G Neal, Stephen (LP) Shoulder
S Wilson, Eugene (DNP) Ankle
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
CB Jackson, Eddie (LP) Knee
LB Vrabel, Mike (LP) Shoulder
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
QB Brady, Tom (LP) Right Shoulder
BUFFALO BILLS (5-4)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
TE Murphy, Matt (Out) Calf
CB Thomas, Kiwaukee (Out) Groin
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
RB Lynch, Marshawn (DNP) Ankle
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
TE Royal, Robert (LP) Head
DE Schobel, Aaron (FP) Illness
Friday, November 16, 2007 NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS (9-0)
Out
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Doubtful
Pos. Player Injury
No Players Listed
Questionable
Pos. Player Injury
LB Alexander, Eric (DNP) Knee
CB Jackson, Eddie (LP) Knee
G Neal, Stephen (LP) Shoulder
LB Vrabel, Mike (LP) Team Decision
WR Welker, Wes (LP) Team Decision
S Wilson, Eugene (DNP) Ankle
Probable
Pos. Player Injury
QB Brady, Tom (LP) Right Shoulder
David Yudkin
Footballguy
Yes. The Pats just changed Welker's status . . .
Welker & Vrabel
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff November 17, 07 09:51 PM
LINK
In addition to downgrading RG Stephen Neal, S Eugene Wilson and ILB Eric Alexander to out for Sunday's game against the Bills, the Patriots also announced that WR Wes Welker has been removed from the injury report.
Welker had been listed as questionable due to a "team decision".
Also, the Patriots announced that OLB Mike Vrabel remains questionable, with his designation switched from "team decision" to "shoulder".
Welker & Vrabel
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff November 17, 07 09:51 PM
LINK
In addition to downgrading RG Stephen Neal, S Eugene Wilson and ILB Eric Alexander to out for Sunday's game against the Bills, the Patriots also announced that WR Wes Welker has been removed from the injury report.
Welker had been listed as questionable due to a "team decision".
Also, the Patriots announced that OLB Mike Vrabel remains questionable, with his designation switched from "team decision" to "shoulder".
ROTOWORLD: Wes Welker (team decision) is no longer listed on the Patriots Week 11 injury report.
Welker was limited in practice much of the week, but no injury was listed and it likely was just a way to give him some rest. Make sure you have Welker in your lineup as he looks to score a touchdown in his fifth straight game.
Welker was limited in practice much of the week, but no injury was listed and it likely was just a way to give him some rest. Make sure you have Welker in your lineup as he looks to score a touchdown in his fifth straight game.
NoDigg41
Footballguy
Hehe, you can always tell a player's owner being overly optimistic trying to talk themselves, and gain support of others, into believing their first round pick wasn't a bust, no matter how late in the season it is!!
Is this the first week with a healthy Watson again? That is the biggest impact IMHO to Welker. There was another Welker thread where I posted Watson's stats up against Welker's stats based on when Watson was hurt and when he wasn't (and got a good posting to boot, I was so proud 
).
Well, when I looked at the stats, it didn't surprise me that Welker literally got almost everything Watson was getting and if you adjusted their overall stats based on Brady's output (he went wild for a few weeks), it seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say, Kyle Brady took non of Watson's catches aside from a couple TDs, so I would be wary of Welker continuing his torrid pace with Watson back. I would expect Watson and Welker to split Welker's recent output, which based on TDs could still make Welker a good play, but if Watson steals a TD or two, Welker could have some meh weeks.
).Well, when I looked at the stats, it didn't surprise me that Welker literally got almost everything Watson was getting and if you adjusted their overall stats based on Brady's output (he went wild for a few weeks), it seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say, Kyle Brady took non of Watson's catches aside from a couple TDs, so I would be wary of Welker continuing his torrid pace with Watson back. I would expect Watson and Welker to split Welker's recent output, which based on TDs could still make Welker a good play, but if Watson steals a TD or two, Welker could have some meh weeks.
My thinking exactly, and the stats appear to bear it out. So where do you rank Welker? Is see his downside as his production in weeks 4 (3-22-0) and 5 (4-19). This was against two suspect defenses (CIN, CLE), but Watson performed. I see his likely production as the same as the last BUF game (6-69-0). But I don't see the upside that we saw while Watson was out (11-124-2, 9-138-2, 9-89-1). Upside is one TD with his catches.So projection is 6-60-0.5 - or 9 pts in most non-PPR and 15 in most PPR. A solid start in PPR, a decent start in non-PPR.I'm starting him over Marshall (better change of scoring) and Burress (lucky enough to have depth to take him out of the lineup until I see something - which means you should start him as he has a big game).Good luck to Welker owners.Is this the first week with a healthy Watson again? That is the biggest impact IMHO to Welker. There was another Welker thread where I posted Watson's stats up against Welker's stats based on when Watson was hurt and when he wasn't (and got a good posting to boot, I was so proud).Well, when I looked at the stats, it didn't surprise me that Welker literally got almost everything Watson was getting and if you adjusted their overall stats based on Brady's output (he went wild for a few weeks), it seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say, Kyle Brady took non of Watson's catches aside from a couple TDs, so I would be wary of Welker continuing his torrid pace with Watson back. I would expect Watson and Welker to split Welker's recent output, which based on TDs could still make Welker a good play, but if Watson steals a TD or two, Welker could have some meh weeks.
I think he is still a solid start. I don't own him, but then again, I have TO, Braylon and Colston starting, so I would definitely bench Welker with Watson back. As a Welker owner, I would watch this week in great detail. If he drops down to 4-5 receptions and Watson does the same and Watson gets red zone looks instead of Welker, then I would be real worried down the road. Right now, it is hard to tell if Welker has taken over the underneath patterns at the expense of Watson or only because Watson was hurt. With the bye week and both guys healthy, this could be a game to watch for both players.As a Brady owner, I love having Watson and Welker healthy because Watson is a huge upgrade over Kyle Brady and just makes Brady's life even easier.My thinking exactly, and the stats appear to bear it out. So where do you rank Welker? Is see his downside as his production in weeks 4 (3-22-0) and 5 (4-19). This was against two suspect defenses (CIN, CLE), but Watson performed. I see his likely production as the same as the last BUF game (6-69-0). But I don't see the upside that we saw while Watson was out (11-124-2, 9-138-2, 9-89-1). Upside is one TD with his catches.So projection is 6-60-0.5 - or 9 pts in most non-PPR and 15 in most PPR. A solid start in PPR, a decent start in non-PPR.I'm starting him over Marshall (better change of scoring) and Burress (lucky enough to have depth to take him out of the lineup until I see something - which means you should start him as he has a big game).Good luck to Welker owners.Is this the first week with a healthy Watson again? That is the biggest impact IMHO to Welker. There was another Welker thread where I posted Watson's stats up against Welker's stats based on when Watson was hurt and when he wasn't (and got a good posting to boot, I was so proud).Well, when I looked at the stats, it didn't surprise me that Welker literally got almost everything Watson was getting and if you adjusted their overall stats based on Brady's output (he went wild for a few weeks), it seemed to match up perfectly. Needless to say, Kyle Brady took non of Watson's catches aside from a couple TDs, so I would be wary of Welker continuing his torrid pace with Watson back. I would expect Watson and Welker to split Welker's recent output, which based on TDs could still make Welker a good play, but if Watson steals a TD or two, Welker could have some meh weeks.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
I think people are overreacting to the stats from earlier in the season. Welker and Brady had barely played together, and at this point I think the two are on the same page. Watson will still the same goal line looks he did before (that K Brady saw when Watson was out), but I don't see a bog dropoff for Welker on the horizon. I don't expect Welker to have numbers quite so gaudy as Weeks 6-7, nor do I think he will fall to the totals he had in Weeks 4-5. At this point, I would need to have a bevy of clearly better options not to play him.
Mik789fl
Footballguy
Given The Pats schedule the rest of the way and the search and destroy attitude they play with the only way I'd downgrade Welker is if Brady went down,there will be plenty of catches and scoring to go around for everyone. All he needs is one of those looks over the middle matched up with a linebacker and he'll get some scores.
Paddy O'Seanessy
Footballguy
Fanball says Welker removed from injury report but Countdown is still showing him as questionable on the crawler.
You may be correct, but if you think Kyle Brady got all of the looks Watson was getting, I would have to disagree. Brady was getting 1 target a game before Watson got hurt and 2 a game after he got hurt. Yes, he got the 2 TDs, but Vrabel has 2 TDs this year as well. Heck, I think the ball boy has a TD.Again, you may be right, but I think this game could be a good indicator. If I owned Welker, I would be a little more worried just because week 5 was Watson's best and Welker's worst and I think by week 5, Brady was on the same page with Welker as he was in weeks 6 & 7. If Brady has more games like 6-8, then I think everyone will be happy, but more like weeks 1-5 and 9, means that some of Watson, Welker and Stallworth will have bad games.
