It's Jimmy Clausen time.... (1 Viewer)

[pantherclub]

Holy hell batman, Jimmy Clausen is the absolute suck. How could anyone think that this kid is an NFL qb? Mel Kiper must be on the take for pumping him up. Plus there were posters on this board saying he was going to be better then Bradford. Wow. Words really cannot describe how putrid this kid is and as a Panther fan I am balls to the wall hellbent on getting Mallett this year. Now that is an NFL qb.I just figured it out, he looks like a lesser version of Joey Harrington. Perfect analogy.

Several are blinded by those gaudy stats against that cream puff sched at ND. I've never seen a QB so hyped with that light of a resume coming out of college. If he didn't play for ND he probably would not have been drafted.

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Is Moore out a few weeks again???

 

[JamesTheScot]

I'm surprised at all the people who are giving up on him already. I don't know if my memory incorrectly serves me, but the shark pool seems way more impatient this year.

Clausen struggled mightily in his first year at Notre Dame too, and progressively got better year after year. Despite Clausen showed little success on deep balls so far in the NFL, he was very good at it in his later years at Notre Dame.

I still think Clausen's going to be a good NFL and FF QB in good time. If you can get him for next to nothing, which looks to be the case in a good number of leagues, I would go for it.

It's probably the Braford effect. There was the whole pre-draft debate about whether Bradford was for real and you had some reputable people saying Clausen was actually the better pro prospect.So Bradford goes on to start from day one and impress the hell out of everyone with his game...in St. Louis no less without anyone close to the caliber of Steve Smith.

Judged against that kind of early success, any other rookie QB is going to look bad. And given that recent years have produced Big Ben, Ryan, Flacco and Stafford as viable rookie starting QB's, things have actually been trending that way.

A decade ago, I doubt Brady Quinn gets cut by the Browns. They'd be more patient in grooming him. So it's not just the fantasy baller, I think the league as well is getting more impatient. And I think that's because of coaching turnover and the league's transition to passing dominated offenses.

What coach without the luxury of a very good veteran QB can really afford to patiently groom a young QB? I can't think of one off the top of my head. You can't sit back and groom a young QB on a team that is below .500 because you won't be able to keep your job that long. So if you lack that good veteran QB, you have to rush the kid in just in hopes that he's a quick learner and provides a spark that your placeholder QB doesn't.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Why do I feel like the Panthers have managed to destroy this kid in just a few short weeks? I'm not saying that he necessarily was destined for greatness but they started out by putting him in against a pretty tough Bengals D (with Hall and Joseph at the corners) that was sure to focus on the run and make him make plays. They bring him back in and yank him quickly. Maybe he never would be the goods but with a young QB you should be trying to put him in a position to succeed and I think they just have put him in a position to suck.

-QG

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

 

[TommyGilmore]

It's probably the Braford effect. There was the whole pre-draft debate about whether Bradford was for real and you had some reputable people saying Clausen was actually the better pro prospect.

See also: Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf.Some guys have "it" from day one. Other guys will never have "it", ever.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

 

[gandalas]

I have never been more glad that the Browns passed on Claussen and picked up Colt instead. While I was mad as heck on draft day, it is looking like a GREAT decision in hindsight.

 

[pantherclub]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Because he is not very good. At all.

 

[Dave Larkin]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Exactly, and that is why I think we should take Luck first overall if we end up with that pick, and after today's news we may just have that pick.

 

[pantherclub]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Exactly, and that is why I think we should take Luck first overall if we end up with that pick, and after today's news we may just have that pick.

Luck is good, but I think Mallett is a cannot miss stud qb in the making. I think he is one of the best prospects that I can remember from the past 10 years. He has it all. Size, touch, mobility, great arm and a good leader.

 

[todisco1]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Because he is not very good. At all.

He may not end up being very good, but I don't know that you can give up on a rookie QB after a couple of games.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

 

[todisco1]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

 

[pantherclub]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Because he is not very good. At all.

He may not end up being very good, but I don't know that you can give up on a rookie QB after a couple of games.

I know you are right but there is nothing that he has done that has made me go "wow" yet. Nothing in the preseason and nothing in the regular season. He looks scared, jittery, and doesnt understand the plays.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Because he is not very good. At all.

He may not end up being very good, but I don't know that you can give up on a rookie QB after a couple of games.

I know you are right but there is nothing that he has done that has made me go "wow" yet. Nothing in the preseason and nothing in the regular season. He looks scared, jittery, and doesnt understand the plays.

Keep in mind that he has a bum toe that is hindering him.

 

[pantherclub]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

Hurney should be fired today for giving up a 2nd for Edwards when he have been there in the 6th. Edwards cannot play the game of professional football. He is too timid and small.

 

[pantherclub]

Yeah I know, we drafted him hurt.

Do you think he is going to be any good?

 

[SieteCinco]

I expect Clausen to score a LOT of fantasy points this weekend.....for Tampa Bay's defense.

 

[BassNBrew]

Yeah I know, we drafted him hurt. Do you think he is going to be any good?

Honestly have no clue. I thought he looked decent in pre-season, at least better than Moore. For as bad as everything is right now, you get Otah and Williams back and Clausen's foot heals and a coach with some brains, it's possible the last to first trend continues in this division.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

Hurney should be fired today for giving up a 2nd for Edwards when he have been there in the 6th. Edwards cannot play the game of professional football. He is too timid and small.

I won't disagree with the first statement, but Edwards is a tough SOB and knows more about winning than anyone in the organiztion.

 

[pantherclub]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

Hurney should be fired today for giving up a 2nd for Edwards when he have been there in the 6th. Edwards cannot play the game of professional football. He is too timid and small.

I won't disagree with the first statement, but Edwards is a tough SOB and knows more about winning than anyone in the organiztion.

Div II tough maybe, not NFL tough. The dude wants no part of fielding punts. He is scared to get hit.

 

[BassNBrew]

Hope Matt Moore's MRI is negative . . . .

Done for the year. Torn labia. Edwards being switched from WR to QB.

Hurney should be fired today for giving up a 2nd for Edwards when he have been there in the 6th. Edwards cannot play the game of professional football. He is too timid and small.

I won't disagree with the first statement, but Edwards is a tough SOB and knows more about winning than anyone in the organiztion.

Div II tough maybe, not NFL tough. The dude wants no part of fielding punts. He is scared to get hit.

He's got more conference titles than a certain QB who resided 3 hours due east of him.

 

[pantherclub]

touche'

 

[pipedream]

I expect I will be sending Steve Smith to my bench where he will rot for the rest of the season. I expect that to keep him in my lineup will cause even more pain and suffering than he has already caused

I expect I will be picking up any defense playing Carolina

I expect that I will be taking the points no matter the line v. Carolina

 

[Glaven]

Hurney and the Panthers bought it hook line and sinker. You can tell Jimmy tries to act like the big man on campus in the huddle but once the bullets start flying damn he just makes some horrible throws. He also has a bit of a delayed hitch in his throw kindof like Kerry Collins used to.

I don't believe Hurney and the Panthers bought anything in regards Clausen hook line and sinker. The only QB they really had on the roster was Moore, and Clausen fell to them in the 2nd round. Why wouldn't they draft him? I sure hope Jimmy acts like the big man on campus in the huddle.

Because he is not very good. At all.

He may not end up being very good, but I don't know that you can give up on a rookie QB after a couple of games.

I know you are right but there is nothing that he has done that has made me go "wow" yet. Nothing in the preseason and nothing in the regular season. He looks scared, jittery, and doesnt understand the plays.

Was the exact same thing in his first year at ND. Here's his stats of his first 7 games at ND: 81/141, 57 CMP%, 88 passing yards per game, a TD/INT ratio of 1/5, and sacked an innumerable amount of times. Clausen would be better off sitting, watching, and learning from a veteran QB for the rest of the year, but since the Panthers don't possess a veteran QB who knows whats gonna happen.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

I expect I will be sending Steve Smith to my bench where he will rot for the rest of the season. I expect that to keep him in my lineup will cause even more pain and suffering than he has already causedI expect I will be picking up any defense playing CarolinaI expect that I will be taking the points no matter the line v. Carolina

 

[JamesTheScot]

Remember, this is the guy who started Deshaun Foster over DeAngelo Williams for TWO YEARS.

Which was the right thing to do. DeAngelo could not block worth a damn during those two years, the Panthers had a bad OL, and he danced too much behind that bad OL. He wasn't ready during those two years to be the lead back, and Foster was the right call. DeAngelo even admits he didn't "get it" until the summer before his 3rd year.

I may agree with you about his rookie year, but in his second season, DeAngelo was clearly the better player. His blocking was adequate, albeit not quite as Foster...but still perfectly acceptable.Bad offensive line or not, check out the stats. He may have danced, but he produced...2006 - 121 rushes, 501 yards, 4.1ypc (Foster averaged 4.0ypc)2007 - 144 rushes, 717 yards, 5.0ypc (Foster averaged 3.5ypc)

Exactly, the people who finally "got it" in DeAngelo's third year were Fox and Co., and then only AFTER they drafted Stewart and AFTER DeAngelo blew up. The talk about DeAngelo finally "getting it" started surfacing after people started asking Fox and Co. why they had been sitting on DeAngelo for the previous two years. They knew they looked like idiots for not using him more the previous two seasons.Every rookie takes some time to "get it" when it comes to being a professional football player. But that doesn't keep them from being productive until they do so.Did DeAngelo become a better blocker over those three offseasons? Sure. But what DeAngelo did with the ball in his hands was obvious to everyone even during his rookie season. Supposedly Norv Turner is an idiot for not getting Matthews more involved this season, yet Fox was showing good judgment by limiting DeAngelo's touches those first two years?It's not like Fox had Peyton Manning under center and had built the team around an impressive arial attack.

 

[EZD222]

It's probably the Braford effect. There was the whole pre-draft debate about whether Bradford was for real and you had some reputable people saying Clausen was actually the better pro prospect.

See also: Peyton Manning/Ryan Leaf.Some guys have "it" from day one. Other guys will never have "it", ever.

And then there are guys like Drew Brees.

 

[shakaka]

lol torn labia

good point on Brees, he put in his time, took his lumps, and after a few years was a pro bowler. Then he gets released by that genius SD GM...

Clausen should turn out ok, he has the skills but still needs to grow up. Maybe this will wake him up.

 

[kolejo]

I said from the point of the draft last year that Tony Pike is the best QB on the roster for Carolina. Even playing at Cincinatti last year looked world's better as a prospect then Clausen. All i've seen from Clausen from the time he took over at Notre Dame was a clone of Brady Quinn, rots at the first sign of a defender within 5 yards of him even if they are blocked.

 

[Eastwood]

Clausen is horrible. I've watched every snap from him this season. How in the world did everyone say he was "pro ready?" He is so nervous in the pocket, and I think his release is just awful.

Pike will end the year as the starting QB. But I'm keeping Smitty on my bench in all leagues. Its just pathetic what has happened to Smith, D-Will, and Stewart's value this year. But next year, man what a great buy low.

 

[ScottyDog]

What I can't believe is that you guys just glossed over the news about Matt Moores injury and just went right into the debate about how Clausen is going to do. I mean come on, a torn labia? This is the first injury of this kind in the NFL. I am speechless. Oh.......I am going to find every defense I can on the WW to play this team, especially weeks 14-16.