Jahvid Best out for season? (3 Viewers)

[Khy]

He's on a 5-0 team. If he can play, I'm sure he'll play. It's not like their season is tanking and it wouldn't be worth the risk to bring him back.

Doesn't look good, I'm just saying that they have good reason to try to get him on the field if possible.

welcome to week 6

You're right. My point is totally moot now that they are 5-1.My b.

This isn't the old NFL, concussion are serious business now. If the doctors are telling him to shut it down, there's a good chance he might especially given his history

The problem with this entire theory is so far there is absolutely 0 news saying doctors stated he should sit for the season. If a doctor tells him to sit for the season I believe NFL rules don't give him much of a choice as it would imply they simply won't clear him until next season. As of right now it is simply "people close" not doctors. A worried mother is about the furthest thing from a certified professional, in fact in most cases it's the complete opposite.

 

[ponchsox]

I'm sure Best wants to play if he's cleared and be part of this resurgent Lion team. I fully expect Best to be out through the Lions bye week. If he can't play after that we will know he's pretty much done for the season.

 

[killrobotkill]

The problem with this entire theory is so far there is absolutely 0 news saying doctors stated he should sit for the season. If a doctor tells him to sit for the season I believe NFL rules don't give him much of a choice as it would imply they simply won't clear him until next season. As of right now it is simply "people close" not doctors. A worried mother is about the furthest thing from a certified professional, in fact in most cases it's the complete opposite.

 

[Cheesedawg]

He's on a 5-0 team. If he can play, I'm sure he'll play. It's not like their season is tanking and it wouldn't be worth the risk to bring him back.

Doesn't look good, I'm just saying that they have good reason to try to get him on the field if possible.

welcome to week 6

You're right. My point is totally moot now that they are 5-1.My b.

This isn't the old NFL, concussion are serious business now. If the doctors are telling him to shut it down, there's a good chance he might especially given his history

The problem with this entire theory is so far there is absolutely 0 news saying doctors stated he should sit for the season. If a doctor tells him to sit for the season I believe NFL rules don't give him much of a choice as it would imply they simply won't clear him until next season. As of right now it is simply "people close" not doctors. A worried mother is about the furthest thing from a certified professional, in fact in most cases it's the complete opposite.

I think we can take a leap that those close to him wouldn't tell him to stop playing unless they were aware of medical reasons to be cautious.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Grab Keiland while you still can

Agree. No enough attention to Keiland Williams right now. May get shot at some point if Best does actually shut it down.

I can't believe people are banking on Maurice Morris. This isn't the Morris from 2-3 years ago people. He's almost 32 yrs now and his ypc already dipped down to 3.7 last year.

 

[wadegarrett]

Picked up Morris last night.

 

[wadegarrett]

Grab Keiland while you still can

Agree. No enough attention to Keiland Williams right now. May get shot at some point if Best does actually shut it down.

I can't believe people are banking on Maurice Morris. This isn't the Morris from 2-3 years ago people. He's almost 32 yrs now and his ypc already dipped down to 3.7 last year.

Still a nice bye week plug in though.

 

[Warrior]

He's on a 5-0 team. If he can play, I'm sure he'll play. It's not like their season is tanking and it wouldn't be worth the risk to bring him back.Doesn't look good, I'm just saying that they have good reason to try to get him on the field if possible.

welcome to week 6

You're right. My point is totally moot now that they are 5-1.My b.

This isn't the old NFL, concussion are serious business now. If the doctors are telling him to shut it down, there's a good chance he might especially given his history

Link to where doctors are telling him to shut it down?

 

[dontknowaboutme]

Lions should consider a back like Brian Westbrook, might be better than Morris/Williams. We will see how worried they are about Best if they sign someone else, which they will have to if Harrison has a tumor and Davis is injured.

 

[Khy]

I think we can take a leap that those close to him wouldn't tell him to stop playing unless they were aware of medical reasons to be cautious.

Can we? Reading what is out there this sounds like the equivalent of a Mom telling her newly 21 year old son to "Be careful, don't drink and drive." The "people close to him" understand a concussion is no joke and would obviously rather him sit out for the rest of his career than get hurt for good. However, any person in any contact sport has to deal with these concerns at any given point in there career. If every person listened to their parents or significant other when playing a contact sport we'd be talking about the NFFL (National Flag Football League) and not the NFL right now. Until a doctor says anything this is all hearsay.

 

[ponchsox]

He's on a 5-0 team. If he can play, I'm sure he'll play. It's not like their season is tanking and it wouldn't be worth the risk to bring him back.Doesn't look good, I'm just saying that they have good reason to try to get him on the field if possible.

welcome to week 6

You're right. My point is totally moot now that they are 5-1.My b.

This isn't the old NFL, concussion are serious business now. If the doctors are telling him to shut it down, there's a good chance he might especially given his history

Link to where doctors are telling him to shut it down?

I don't think it was the doctors that told him that, but people "close to him." I'm sure his loved ones are more concerned about his future health over football right now.

 

[shnikies]

I'd start being worried if they go after another veteran back via free agency. If they go after a Maroney, Portis or Buckhalter I think it'd be safe to say Best's outlook looks bleak. I just don't see the Lions going forward with Morris and Williams in a season as promising as this one.

 

[wadegarrett]

I love all the Best owners in here.

 

[dontknowaboutme]

I'd start being worried if they go after another veteran back via free agency. If they go after a Maroney, Portis or Buckhalter I think it'd be safe to say Best's outlook looks bleak. I just don't see the Lions going forward with Morris and Williams in a season as promising as this one.

Agreed, obviously they don't either, hence the Brown trade.

 

[glumpy]

While I think that any talk about sitting out the year is all conjecture at this point, there may be another factor: Concussion Litigation

More than 125 former pro football players are suing the league — and, in most cases, helmet-maker Riddell — via at least five complaints brought in state or federal courts over the past few months and as recently as last week. They say the NFL should have done more to warn about the dangers of head injuries and should do more to help retired players.

"We've moved on from a debate about whether or not it's really a problem — it's clear it is — to the next question: What do we do about it?" said Richard Lewis, a lawyer representing players in a class-action suit filed in California state court.

 

[Khy]

I'd start being worried if they go after another veteran back via free agency. If they go after a Maroney, Portis or Buckhalter I think it'd be safe to say Best's outlook looks bleak. I just don't see the Lions going forward with Morris and Williams in a season as promising as this one.

Agreed, obviously they don't either, hence the Brown trade.

Well the Brown trade was beneficial whether Best was to be active or not. Even with Best they needed a stronger between the tackles runner to balance out Best's speed and elusiveness in the open field.

 

[shnikies]

I'd start being worried if they go after another veteran back via free agency. If they go after a Maroney, Portis or Buckhalter I think it'd be safe to say Best's outlook looks bleak. I just don't see the Lions going forward with Morris and Williams in a season as promising as this one.

Agreed, obviously they don't either, hence the Brown trade.

I think them going after Brown makes you worry but them being persistent and going after another veteran makes you certain.

 

[Native]

What exactly is wrong with Jerome Harrison? I thought he could be a 1200 yard back in this offense and suddenly hes an afterthought? Whats the extent of his injury? Is he now toast?

 

[dontknowaboutme]

What exactly is wrong with Jerome Harrison? I thought he could be a 1200 yard back in this offense and suddenly hes an afterthought? Whats the extent of his injury? Is he now toast?

Rumor was a brain tumor, unconfirmed.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7127181/jerome-harrison-tumor-which-voided-detroit-lions-philadelphia-eagles-trade-source-says

 

[Ditka is God]

What exactly is wrong with Jerome Harrison? I thought he could be a 1200 yard back in this offense and suddenly hes an afterthought? Whats the extent of his injury? Is he now toast?

Rumor was a brain tumor, unconfirmed.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7127181/jerome-harrison-tumor-which-voided-detroit-lions-philadelphia-eagles-trade-source-says

Wow. That sucks.

 

[dontknowaboutme]

All the more reason the Lions sign another free agent. Of the names I have heard the Lions trying out, none sound interesting. Anyone have an idea of free agent running backs who may be flying under the radar?

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

All the more reason the Lions sign another free agent. Of the names I have heard the Lions trying out, none sound interesting. Anyone have an idea of free agent running backs who may be flying under the radar?

Detroit should just trade a late rd pick for Battle. KC's season is most likely over and no chance at playoffs.

 

[JD8p]

The deadline was Tuesday

 

[nysportsfan]

Nowhere does it say gis doctors are telling him to sit out for the season. It says priple close to him. Driends and family? Usually family is more cautious imo.

Mamosas or bloody mary's?I'm hoping he is ok, he is a nice part of the offense and has a lot of football ahead of him.

 

[shnikies]

All the more reason the Lions sign another free agent. Of the names I have heard the Lions trying out, none sound interesting. Anyone have an idea of free agent running backs who may be flying under the radar?

Detroit should just trade a late rd pick for Battle. KC's season is most likely over and no chance at playoffs.

I'm guessing you're joking. The biggest names available are Buckhalter, Maroney and Portis. Maroney is the youngest, Buckhalter seem to be the best fit and Portis is the best in pass pro.

 

[playin4beer]

All the more reason the Lions sign another free agent. Of the names I have heard the Lions trying out, none sound interesting. Anyone have an idea of free agent running backs who may be flying under the radar?

Detroit should just trade a late rd pick for Battle. KC's season is most likely over and no chance at playoffs.

Because Battle would be such a big upgrade over Williams?? I think they just need depth behind Williams and that he can carry the load.. Morris a fine change of pace, passing and 3rd down back...

 

[simsarge]

What exactly is wrong with Jerome Harrison? I thought he could be a 1200 yard back in this offense and suddenly hes an afterthought? Whats the extent of his injury? Is he now toast?

Not piling on, but the last sentence in this story seemed to be relevant to the adding of a veteran player concern.

On Wednesday the Lions added former Browns and Redskins running back James Davis to the practice squad for insurance, but were forced to move him to the injured list after just one day.

link

FWIW Davis is listed at 5'11" and 215 (almost identical to Morris). Been in the league since '09 with Washington and has career numbers of 75 yds Rushing, and 7 catches for 50 yards in 5 games of action. He did post 40 rushing and 41 recieving last year against the Giants in week 13.

Edit : Sorry. Some kind of crazy formatting problem.

 

[Johnny Detroit]

hearing lions are working out 2 RBs with Maroney being one.

 

[Alluro]

Is there some reason why Kevin Smith isn't given a shot? On a far worse detroit team he almost rushed for 1000 yds

 

[footballnerd]

hearing lions are working out 2 RBs with Maroney being one.

not good. thanks for the update, keep us posted.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

What about Kevin Smith? Why aren't the Lions considering bringing him back? What's the extent of his injury issues, if any?

 

[dontknowaboutme]

What about Kevin Smith? Why aren't the Lions considering bringing him back? What's the extent of his injury issues, if any?

This thought crossed my mind too. Sammy Morris is also out there, I think. Anyone else come to mind? No one mentioned seem like an upgrade over Morris or Williams, with break out potential.

 

[Shutout]

If Best is going to sit out for the year, he really should just quit football. If he's so fragile that any concussion can cause this much concern, no team can rely on him.

How much does quitting football pay? That might be a bad career move for purely altruistic purposes.

If he sits out the rest of the year, does he still get paid his full salary?

Yes, he was on the opening day roster and was injured while playing; he will get his full salary for the year.

 

[Exit 1]

Tiki Barber could be a stud there...just saying.

 

[Warrior]

Tiki Barber could be a stud there...just saying.

lol...sure he could.

 

[glong989]

So should I feel bad at all for offering Julio Jones and Best for SJax and it getting accepted right after I found out about this info?

It's their responsibility to know who they are trading for correct?

 

[JD8p]

For what it's worth...Lions offensive coordinator Scott Linehan said he fully expects Jahvid Best back this season.

https://twitter.com/#!/paulapasche/statuses/127071645625102336

 

[Payne]

So should I feel bad at all for offering Julio Jones and Best for SJax and it getting accepted right after I found out about this info?It's their responsibility to know who they are trading for correct?

If you're questioning it, you already know the answer.I wouldn't have done it.

 

[glong989]

So should I feel bad at all for offering Julio Jones and Best for SJax and it getting accepted right after I found out about this info?It's their responsibility to know who they are trading for correct?

If you're questioning it, you already know the answer.I wouldn't have done it.

It's not confirmed whatsoever though..

 

[bmetz]

Schwartz isn't exactly forthcoming with injury details- he could pull a Belichick and not put Best on IR but perpetually put him as Questionable/Doubtful each week and continue to sit him.Makes me wonder if the Harrison deal was voided because of something Schwartz didn't tell the Eagles or that Harrison didn't tell the Lions.

Per Adam Schefter, when Harrison was taking his physical with the Eagles, it was discovered that he has a brain tumor.I'm pretty sure the Lions would have mentioned that to him had they found it prior to the trade.

 

[ThePittbully]

I just traded him for Jennings, don't feel bad

 

[Da Guru]

Best is softer than a puppys belly.

If you watch the Lions games every time Best gets hit he his holding his hand or rubbing his arm and always acting like he is hurting somewhere. I love Bests ability, but do not think he will have a very long career in this league.

 

[dontknowaboutme]

Gartrell Johnson is another possibility. Problem with some of these guys is that you have to wonder what shape they are in.

 

[killrobotkill]

For what it's worth...Lions offensive coordinator Scott Linehan said he fully expects Jahvid Best back this season.https://twitter.com/#!/paulapasche/statuses/127071645625102336

Here's what we know so far:- Unknown people who are close to Best are advising him to sit out the season.- The Lions have chosen not to place Best on season-ending IR.- The Lions OC has said Best will be back this season.So team officials are saying he should come back this year, while only the people close to him are saying he shouldn't. I'll go with what the team officials are saying and assume he'll be back this year.Now, whether that's next week, next month, or Week 17 is anyone's guess. But I'm not going to be dropping him anytime soon.

 

[Badgers Fan]

Grab Keiland while you still can

Agree. No enough attention to Keiland Williams right now. May get shot at some point if Best does actually shut it down.

I can't believe people are banking on Maurice Morris. This isn't the Morris from 2-3 years ago people. He's almost 32 yrs now and his ypc already dipped down to 3.7 last year.

Still a nice bye week plug in though.

While I don't think anyone is "banking" on him, I think he can definitely be an rb3. In his final 7 games he had 79 carries, 326 yards, 4.1 ypc, 18 catches, 116 yards, 5 total tds. While not earth shattering, that's roughly 63 total yards and 2 catches per game, plus a healthy amount of touchdowns. He's not going to make or break a season, but I'll take 60 yards, some catches, and a possible td from my bye week flex player any day of the week.

 

[bergs101]

Count me in as very interested in the FA RB that the Lions add to their roster; for now, I'm adding (or have already added) MoMo.

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Grab Keiland while you still can

Agree. No enough attention to Keiland Williams right now. May get shot at some point if Best does actually shut it down.

I can't believe people are banking on Maurice Morris. This isn't the Morris from 2-3 years ago people. He's almost 32 yrs now and his ypc already dipped down to 3.7 last year.

Still a nice bye week plug in though.

While I don't think anyone is "banking" on him, I think he can definitely be an rb3. In his final 7 games he had 79 carries, 326 yards, 4.1 ypc, 18 catches, 116 yards, 5 total tds. While not earth shattering, that's roughly 63 total yards and 2 catches per game, plus a healthy amount of touchdowns. He's not going to make or break a season, but I'll take 60 yards, some catches, and a possible td from my bye week flex player any day of the week.

I mean picking him over Keiland Williams...

 

[killrobotkill]

Per Adam Schefter, when Harrison was taking his physical with the Eagles, it was discovered that he has a brain tumor.I'm pretty sure the Lions would have mentioned that to him had they found it prior to the trade.

Wow. That's serious stuff. My thoughts and prayers to Harrison and his family - I always liked him as a pure runner. His game against the Redskins last year was epic win.This also may explain why the Lions are so concerned with getting more RB's in there, at least post-Ronnie Brown trade. It may not be a concern over Best's health as much as a concern over losing depth, with Harrison obviously being gone for the year now.

 

[cvnpoka]

most recently i remember portis and westbrook missing long portions of the season and eventually being ired. in both cases it was revealed they were suffering from after affects such as dizziness and light sensitivity. i would view it as a positive that such reports have not yet surfaced regarding best.

i would take the comments from linehan and schwartz with a grain of salt. schwartz is one of the most tight lipped about injuries. regardless, ofc they expect and hope he is back. but its not in their hands, nor is it really in best's.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

What exactly is wrong with Jerome Harrison? I thought he could be a 1200 yard back in this offense and suddenly hes an afterthought? Whats the extent of his injury? Is he now toast?

Not piling on, but the last sentence in this story seemed to be relevant to the adding of a veteran player concern.

On Wednesday the Lions added former Browns and Redskins running back James Davis to the practice squad for insurance, but were forced to move him to the injured list after just one day.

link

FWIW Davis is listed at 5'11" and 215 (almost identical to Morris). Been in the league since '09 with Washington and has career numbers of 75 yds Rushing, and 7 catches for 50 yards in 5 games of action. He did post 40 rushing and 41 recieving last year against the Giants in week 13.

Edit : Sorry. Some kind of crazy formatting problem.

Doing an MRI for the trade they found a brain tumor in harisson. I think he's likely IR as he'll need to have brain surgery to remove the tumor most likely.