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Read something interesting that I hadn't seen brought up.

1.) The doctor wanted Best to take a year off after his concussion. October 22nd will be a year.

2.) Best expects to be cleared Week 8. Still has been going to meetings and whatnot.

Could we see Best coming in Week 8 and shaking up the Fantasy landscape? He'd definitely give a few of my teams some depth.

 
certainly doesn't look like the Detroit running back situation is fixed at this point. Best could easily step into the situation and emerge. that said, week 8 is a long time from now.

 
It's a pretty crowded situation with Smith and Leshoure coming back, so outside of injury to both those guys, I'm not sure how much upside there is with Best.

Given Best's injury, I can't imagine the team will want to give him 15-20 touches regularly. One more big hit to the head and he's probably done for good.

 
What info is out there in terms of what he's doing or has been able to do? I think of when Sid Crosby was out, you'd hear of him working out "without symptoms" or "having a setback". He eventually practised without symptoms and without a setback and then returned to full contact etc. There was a progression. With Best it seems like it's been extremely quiet.

 
This is my favorite injured reserve stash player on my teams. Week 7 you'll have a fresh running back who may come back and play a few games for you before his next injury occurs. Depending on how much he plays will depend on how well Leshoure does within the next few weeks. Hopefully your team doesn't incur a RB injury. But if it does then you'll have a possible replacement as well as the potential to have one of the best Midseason injection of Fantasy Football points in years. All it takes is stashing him as the on your injured reserve slot or roster him as your last back. Keep in mind in the upcoming weeks you'll start hearing more Best news as the weeks go on. So you may want to grab him before week 7 if you can.

 
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Why not? He was a ppr machine last year and is easily the most talented RB on the roster. And with Detroit's offense looking mortal, they might need a shot in the arm by the time he's healthy.

 
i grabbed him off the WW this week. smith is fragile. leshoure is an unknown. he's got a decent chance of getting some playing time, even if he's in a RBBC.

 
Why not? He was a ppr machine last year and is easily the most talented RB on the roster. And with Detroit's offense looking mortal, they might need a shot in the arm by the time he's healthy.
No faith in Leshoure? Best has struggled pretty bad running the ball to this point in his career.
 
Its a possibility im fully expecting the Detroit back field to become a committee (Leshoure owner).

I see Best as a 3rd down back/scatback in the same regards as Sproles/Woodhead/Mccluster, hes shown that his receiving prowess is in the top of the field.

I expect him to get ~7+ targets a game when healthy +- however many attempts. He just has to get healthy.

 
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'VA703 said:
has best even been cleared to practice
Medically, not officially - last time the Detroit media wrote about him (Sept 6th) he was condident he would play this year.Of course he is not allowed to practice until he comes off the PUP the week of the Bears MNF game (Oct 22nd). At they point they can let him practice for 21 days before activating, or put him the PUP list for another 21 days.
 
'Time Kibitzer said:
Why not? He was a ppr machine last year and is easily the most talented RB on the roster. And with Detroit's offense looking mortal, they might need a shot in the arm by the time he's healthy.
No faith in Leshoure? Best has struggled pretty bad running the ball to this point in his career.
Leshoure is okay. Obviously brings more power to the table, but overall isn't really a great talent.Best did well as a rookie. His YPC suffered last year, but IIRC he may have been playing through some sort of foot injury.Even with inconsistent rushing numbers, he has been a dynamic scorer in ppr leagues.
 
'VA703 said:
has best even been cleared to practice
Medically, not officially - last time the Detroit media wrote about him (Sept 6th) he was condident he would play this year.Of course he is not allowed to practice until he comes off the PUP the week of the Bears MNF game (Oct 22nd). At they point they can let him practice for 21 days before activating, or put him the PUP list for another 21 days.
Its my understanding, he could play that game vs. Chicago on October 22nd. He could go through the motions with no contact before hand!
 
'Time Kibitzer said:
Why not? He was a ppr machine last year and is easily the most talented RB on the roster. And with Detroit's offense looking mortal, they might need a shot in the arm by the time he's healthy.
No faith in Leshoure? Best has struggled pretty bad running the ball to this point in his career.
Leshoure is okay. Obviously brings more power to the table, but overall isn't really a great talent.Best did well as a rookie. His YPC suffered last year, but IIRC he may have been playing through some sort of foot injury.

Even with inconsistent rushing numbers, he has been a dynamic scorer in ppr leagues.
:confused: Best was bad as a rookie. He had a better YPC & better YPR(reception) last year. Yes, he can be a dynamic scorer, but it would be VERY difficult for the Lions (or FF owners) to rely on him.

 
'Time Kibitzer said:
Why not? He was a ppr machine last year and is easily the most talented RB on the roster. And with Detroit's offense looking mortal, they might need a shot in the arm by the time he's healthy.
No faith in Leshoure? Best has struggled pretty bad running the ball to this point in his career.
Leshoure is okay. Obviously brings more power to the table, but overall isn't really a great talent.Best did well as a rookie. His YPC suffered last year, but IIRC he may have been playing through some sort of foot injury.Even with inconsistent rushing numbers, he has been a dynamic scorer in ppr leagues.
I think you're confusing his rookie year with his 2nd year. In his rookie year his YPC was 3.2 which is bad to say the least, and that was the year when he had turf toe issues for essentially the entire year. IIRC, he was fully healthy for the start of his 2nd year. In that year he had a YPC of 4.6 was pretty good, but that pretty well all came from his game against the Bears where he had a 163 rushing yards on 12 carries. Outside of that game, his YPC was under 4.0 in 4 of the other 5 games before getting concussed. Sure he's proven to be a decent fantasy commodity due to his good to great receiving skills, but really at some point he has to stop sucking running the ball for him to be fantasy relevant, unless the Lions plan on using him in a Darren Sproles role. As for Leshoure, before his injury I would have said he was certainly a great talent. He's big and fast and he tore up the Big 10 and averaged over 11 yards per reception in every season. I thought he looked pretty slow in preseason this year, but I think he's got a better chance of being a fantasy relevant RB over the long haul than Jahvid Best does.
 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown that the Lions are "hopeful" Jahvid Best (concussions, PUP) will be ready to play in Week 7 against the Bears, a Monday Night Football game.Schefter cautioned that the Lions don't know anything for sure, but this is the hope for now. Best will go through a battery of concussion tests this week, at which point the organization will have a better idea of his true return timetable. It sounds like he could return to the lineup immediately if he passes the testing with flying colors. Best would likely assume a fairly significant role behind struggling Mikel Leshoure, being used ala Darren Sproles. He's worth grabbing in all fantasy leagues as a "stash" to see what happens.
Boom, boom!
 
Another messy RB situation, I still can't trust an RB with a concussion history. I hope for his sake, and his family's that he stays healthy. Head injuries can be horrible.

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown that the Lions are "hopeful" Jahvid Best (concussions, PUP) will be ready to play in Week 7 against the Bears, a Monday Night Football game.

Schefter cautioned that the Lions don't know anything for sure, but this is the hope for now. Best will go through a battery of concussion tests this week, at which point the organization will have a better idea of his true return timetable. It sounds like he could return to the lineup immediately if he passes the testing with flying colors. Best would likely assume a fairly significant role behind struggling Mikel Leshoure, being used ala Darren Sproles. He's worth grabbing in all fantasy leagues as a "stash" to see what happens.
Boom, boom!
That part of the news bothers me. The dude didn't start until week 3 because of a suspension, his first game ever played in the NFL he goes for over 100 yards with a TD. He then plays a very stingy run defense in Minnesota and is instantly labeled as struggling. Also keep in mind it's a pass first offense ... that quote just bothers me.
 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown that the Lions are "hopeful" Jahvid Best (concussions, PUP) will be ready to play in Week 7 against the Bears, a Monday Night Football game.

Schefter cautioned that the Lions don't know anything for sure, but this is the hope for now. Best will go through a battery of concussion tests this week, at which point the organization will have a better idea of his true return timetable. It sounds like he could return to the lineup immediately if he passes the testing with flying colors. Best would likely assume a fairly significant role behind struggling Mikel Leshoure, being used ala Darren Sproles. He's worth grabbing in all fantasy leagues as a "stash" to see what happens.
Boom, boom!
That part of the news bothers me. The dude didn't start until week 3 because of a suspension, his first game ever played in the NFL he goes for over 100 yards with a TD. He then plays a very stingy run defense in Minnesota and is instantly labeled as struggling. Also keep in mind it's a pass first offense ... that quote just bothers me.
I just think Best has the potential to tear it up. Everyone else will be banged up 8 weeks in. Best will be fresh.
 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown that the Lions are "hopeful" Jahvid Best (concussions, PUP) will be ready to play in Week 7 against the Bears, a Monday Night Football game.

Schefter cautioned that the Lions don't know anything for sure, but this is the hope for now. Best will go through a battery of concussion tests this week, at which point the organization will have a better idea of his true return timetable. It sounds like he could return to the lineup immediately if he passes the testing with flying colors. Best would likely assume a fairly significant role behind struggling Mikel Leshoure, being used ala Darren Sproles. He's worth grabbing in all fantasy leagues as a "stash" to see what happens.
Boom, boom!
That part of the news bothers me. The dude didn't start until week 3 because of a suspension, his first game ever played in the NFL he goes for over 100 yards with a TD. He then plays a very stingy run defense in Minnesota and is instantly labeled as struggling. Also keep in mind it's a pass first offense ... that quote just bothers me.
I just think Best has the potential to tear it up. Everyone else will be banged up 8 weeks in. Best will be fresh.
If you have Best, and my guess is that you do ... if he comes back and does well, really well ... trade his ### high. Best advice I can give you.
 
I think he'll be a darren sproles type back at best. He's one hit away from being out the league. I hope for his sake, it doesn't happen but I think the days of him being the main rusher are over. I don't see why people are down on Leshoure so soon. I think he's the best back to own in that backfield. I really wish the best for Best because if he keeps getting concussions, I cringe to think of what he's going to be like at 50 years old.

 
I think he'll be a darren sproles type back at best. He's one hit away from being out the league. I hope for his sake, it doesn't happen but I think the days of him being the main rusher are over. I don't see why people are down on Leshoure so soon. I think he's the best back to own in that backfield. I really wish the best for Best because if he keeps getting concussions, I cringe to think of what he's going to be like at 50 years old.
If he sustains more concussions, I doubt he even lives to 50. For his own health, it seems to me he should just walk away at this point.
 
If you have Best, and my guess is that you do ... if he comes back and does well, really well ... trade his ### high. Best advice I can give you.
:goodposting: I should've done that last year. I tried to get Jimmy Graham after week 4 or so. Guy wanted Best for Graham straight up and I declined...Best got concussed and Graham went on to have a year for the record books. I think with Best, it's not only that he's clearly concussion prone, but he also runs in a way that leaves him open to a lot of big hits. Not sure what it is, but clearly you have to be not only prone to concussions, but also prone to getting hit hard...he's both. I think IF he comes back, he makes it maybe a few weeks before he gets another one. If they try and use him a the main guy, maybe even less. He needs to retire for his own good.
 
Dropped a DST I wouldnt play for a couple weeks to carry him in a 12 team redraft. I'm not a guppy but the second he is medically cleared I'll trade him to the owner who has been starting Mark Ingram.

It has to be a smart move if you have the space.

 
Dropped a DST I wouldnt play for a couple weeks to carry him in a 12 team redraft. I'm not a guppy but the second he is medically cleared I'll trade him to the owner who has been starting Mark Ingram.

It has to be a smart move if you have the space.
People do this in a 12 team league?
 
There will have to be a consensus among Jahvid Best's doctors before he's cleared to return.

Best will undergo a battery of concussion tests this week to determine whether the Lions will active him off the PUP list ahead of Week 7. He's seeing multiple local and national specialists and they'll all have to sign off. For what it's worth, Best says he's in the best shape of his career. The Lions and fantasy owners are anxiously awaiting his possible return.

Source: ESPN.com

Oct 8 - 11:34 AM

 
If Best is cleared then he is the third down change of pace back. Worth picking up for sure. My take is that he never rested fully and long enough after his severe concussed cal days. These battery of docs should run a full modern series of tests including hopefully vestibular tests. I also hope someone advised him to sleep in hyperbaric chamber this last year too. I am hoping he has a successful career l like this kid from what l have seen.

 
I'm targeting him in 14-16 man leagues this week. (Dropping Bryce Brown and Toby Gerhart)

If he's cleared to play, what have you got to lose? He's been pretty effective on only 10-15 touches, especially in PPR.

 
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'THE SNOWMAN said:
'Eminence said:
ESPN's Adam Schefter reported on Sunday Countdown that the Lions are "hopeful" Jahvid Best (concussions, PUP) will be ready to play in Week 7 against the Bears, a Monday Night Football game.

Schefter cautioned that the Lions don't know anything for sure, but this is the hope for now. Best will go through a battery of concussion tests this week, at which point the organization will have a better idea of his true return timetable. It sounds like he could return to the lineup immediately if he passes the testing with flying colors. Best would likely assume a fairly significant role behind struggling Mikel Leshoure, being used ala Darren Sproles. He's worth grabbing in all fantasy leagues as a "stash" to see what happens.
Boom, boom!
That part of the news bothers me. The dude didn't start until week 3 because of a suspension, his first game ever played in the NFL he goes for over 100 yards with a TD. He then plays a very stingy run defense in Minnesota and is instantly labeled as struggling. Also keep in mind it's a pass first offense ... that quote just bothers me.
It took 28 carries to get that 100 yards and he's averaging 3.2 YPC in those two games. Those numbers aren't anomalies from the things he's shown in preaseason either.
 
Look at Joique Bell. Saints fans loved him and he has a lot of talent, but he's still just Joique and he has something like the 4th most receiving yards among RBs already - Best is a heck of a lot better than Bell.

Not to mention the Lions are lacking in a breakaway threat at RB right now. One home run by Best and things can change quickly.

 
I think he'll be a darren sproles type back at best. He's one hit away from being out the league. I hope for his sake, it doesn't happen but I think the days of him being the main rusher are over. I don't see why people are down on Leshoure so soon. I think he's the best back to own in that backfield. I really wish the best for Best because if he keeps getting concussions, I cringe to think of what he's going to be like at 50 years old.
Is anyone really hoping for more than that? In PPR leagues finding someone who could give you 75% of Sproles production on the waiver wire would be a real coup.I just dropped McCluster for Best in my league which has deep rosters. IMO it's a lottery ticket. Best may not even play and if he does he could be very limited and he is obviously a major injury risk at this point.

But if you have the roster space and are looking for something on the ww either for depth, trade bait, or hoping to get lucky and infuse something into your RB corps then I think he's worth the look.

ETA- On a personal note, I remember the concussion Best got while playing for Cal in a game at my alma mater in College Park. He threw up on the field and was basically unconscious. Then there was the one where he flipped into the endzone and his arms went stiff, also while at Cal. I don't remember the specific NFL plays where he was concussed but I do think the major concern should be about his personal health. Dude really shouldnt play football anymore but at 23 years old I'm sure he doesnt want to hear that. Sadly as a FF owner struggling at 2-3 I'm just hoping for a short term option to play in my flex spot but I do sincerely hope he is healthy and the doctors and Lions are truly looking out for his long term health.

 
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Low risk, high reward pickup. The shark move is to stash him for nothing before any news breaks about him being cleared to play. If and when he is cleared to play, it will take a very high waiver or the rest of your FAAB $ to get him. He could provide solid RB3/flex value if he comes back.

 
I think the person who benefits most by a healthy Best will be Stafford. It seems to me that the Lions offense is much more potent when there's a strong checkdown. Bell isn't it.

 
I think he'll be a darren sproles type back at best. He's one hit away from being out the league. I hope for his sake, it doesn't happen but I think the days of him being the main rusher are over. I don't see why people are down on Leshoure so soon. I think he's the best back to own in that backfield. I really wish the best for Best because if he keeps getting concussions, I cringe to think of what he's going to be like at 50 years old.
Is anyone really hoping for more than that? In PPR leagues finding someone who could give you 75% of Sproles production on the waiver wire would be a real coup.I just dropped McCluster for Best in my league which has deep rosters. IMO it's a lottery ticket. Best may not even play and if he does he could be very limited and he is obviously a major injury risk at this point.

But if you have the roster space and are looking for something on the ww either for depth, trade bait, or hoping to get lucky and infuse something into your RB corps then I think he's worth the look.

ETA- On a personal note, I remember the concussion Best got while playing for Cal in a game at my alma mater in College Park. He threw up on the field and was basically unconscious. Then there was the one where he flipped into the endzone and his arms went stiff, also while at Cal. I don't remember the specific NFL plays where he was concussed but I do think the major concern should be about his personal health. Dude really shouldnt play football anymore but at 23 years old I'm sure he doesnt want to hear that. Sadly as a FF owner struggling at 2-3 I'm just hoping for a short term option to play in my flex spot but I do sincerely hope he is healthy and the doctors and Lions are truly looking out for his long term health.
:goodposting:
 
i think best has a 1% shot of ever being a viable fantasy back again. with that said i am likely putting in for him on waivers this week just in case.

 
'ponchsox said:
Low risk, high reward pickup. The shark move is to stash him for nothing before any news breaks about him being cleared to play.
YepThat's what I was thinking about a week ago and picked him up before all these reports started coming out. People had been dismissing the option to pick him up but I don't see why. Just one spot on the bench for a week or two and has more potential than a lot of garbage on waivers. We'll know more real soon and worst case is that you dropped some other garbage on the bench for him.
 
i think best has a 1% shot of ever being a viable fantasy back again. with that said i am likely putting in for him on waivers this week just in case.
I think the odds are a bit better than that. I say he has a decent chance of being productive for a stint. However, he's one hit away from becoming a vegetable. As someone pointed out earlier, if he produces even slightly, sell him asap. Also, DET has one of the worst upcoming schedules for RBs anyway. If you're rostering him at this point, it should be for him being nothing more than possible trade bait.
 
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i think best has a 1% shot of ever being a viable fantasy back again. with that said i am likely putting in for him on waivers this week just in case.
I think the odds are a bit better than that. I say he has a decent chance of being productive for a stint. However, he's one hit away from becoming a vegetable. As someone pointed out earlier, if he produces even slightly, sell him asap. Also, DET has one of the worst upcoming schedules for RBs anyway. If you're rostering him at this point, it should be for him being nothing more than possible trade bait.
But what if you've already got Bell? Do you milk his production as your #3RB flex?
 
'ImTheScientist said:
Just picked him up....you are welcome for the update.In PPR everyone should stash this guy.
He was on my WW and I took a pass. Remaining games include @CHI, SEA, @MIN, HOU, PHI and Wks 15 and 16 @AZ and ATL. Combine that with Bell having a similar skill set, remaining injury risk and GL looks likely going to Leshoure and not much there IMO.
 

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