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Added my comparisons
Wow. Warren Moon is an all-time great QB. He was slinging it in college and was never a runner. Very poor comparison.
I wouldn't doubt this...he's my second favorite after Ponder.
I would probably bet against that.
How about T.J. Rubley? He was way more different than Moon. He was white for one thing.Hard to think of a QB more different from Cam Newton than Warren Moon.
I doubt all four of these teams take him.
I have been saying this for a year now. Nothing new to me. Glad you marked it down when I told you.
You read too much rotoworld bro.
The ball jumps out of Newtons hand the same effortless way it did out of Moons. The talent is there. Look at Newtons HS career where he was a pocket passer whose athleticism was the question going into Florida. I realize its unpopular to like Newton here, and bah bah Vince Young all over again. IMHO Newton will be the best passer from this class.
Again, JMO.
this means nothing...the ball "jumps" out of a lot of guys hands that all became busts.Arm strength, quick release aren't half as important as decision making, study habits, pocket presence etc.
I was thinking that any QB that Minny drafts at 12 is starting right away. What, he sits behind Joe Webb?
I'd go a step further. QBs with such accuracy issues and panic issues under a rush in college never survive in the pros. It's become fashionable lately to blame his dearth of talent around him at Washington, but that only goes so far. Some very prominent NFL people who would know have said if the accuracy isn't there, it isn't there, and it won't improve at the pro level significantly enough. Locker IMO will bust, period.
It was a different era, but here is the link to moon's stats (could not find rushing), but he was hardly slinging it around. In fact, i remember him running the pure option (but most college teams did then). He wasn't a game changing runner, but his mobility was probably closer to Locker than any of the guys I can think of in this year's draft.http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=2796
Who are you?
Harbaugh is one of those quoted as stressing accuracy importance and that it can't be coached up all that much. I would guess Locker is scratched off his list.
Here's the example that keeps popping into my head. Both very good runners, both had to run for their life behind bad o-lines, and both had next to nothing in terms of play makers on their offenses.Jay Cutler
PassingYear School Conf Class Pos Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate2002 Vanderbilt SEC FR QB 103 212 48.6 1433 6.8 5.8 10 9 112.42003 Vanderbilt SEC SO QB 187 327 57.2 2347 7.2 6.5 18 13 127.72004 Vanderbilt SEC JR QB 147 241 61.0 1844 7.7 7.5 10 5 134.82005 Vanderbilt SEC SR QB 273 462 59.1 3073 6.7 6.7 21 9 126.1Career Vanderbilt 710 1242 57.2 8697 7.0 6.6 59 36 125.9 PassingYear School Conf Class Pos Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate2007 Washington Pac-10 FR QB 155 328 47.3 2062 6.3 5.1 14 15 105.02008 Washington Pac-10 SO QB 50 93 53.8 512 5.5 5.7 1 0 103.62009 Washington Pac-10 JR QB 230 395 58.2 2800 7.1 6.9 21 11 129.72010 Washington Pac-10 SR QB 184 332 55.4 2265 6.8 6.6 17 9 124.2Career Washington 619 1148 53.9 7639 6.7 6.2 53 35 119.0
It's a good comparison. I think the accuracy thing is WAY overrated and not enough people are realizing how bad his weapons were. It's not that he can't put the ball in the right spot...it's that his completion percentage is low. Many reasons for that from dropped passes, to WR's that can't get open. Cutler at least had Earl Bennett, who became a decent NFL receiver. Washington? Nothing. This in itself doesn't guarantee success, but we've all seen NFL QB's struggle when they are surrounded by bad weapons, and then miraculously explode once they get playmakers.
Not sold on the Titans QB evalutions. If Lockers fails they will be looking like the Lions starting over and over again.Newton has all the physical tools you want in a QB, but what is very troubling is his total lack of knowledge of how an NFL offense operates. At Auburn is was one simple read and take off. That will work somewhat in the NFL but it does not last. Newton is not nearly on the same level Josh Freeman was coming in terms of running a NFL offense. A huge project type of QB.Ponder may do OK in Minny. Good o-line and a great RB will help.
Talent was never the issue with Young. He could have been excellent if he had the mind for it. But I do agree, this pick could take us to the cellar for years if he busts.....
I agree with most of your points, but I don't know that the Titans can bring him along slowly. Collins isn't going to last forever. I think Locker starts by mid-season. And the Titans improve in 2011 to .500
This is not a fair statement. Locker's weapons were just fine. WR J Kearse and RB C Polk will likely end up on NFL rosters. How can you make this statement after seeing Polk destroy Nebraska in the Holiday Bowl?
Interesting, but I can't recall anyone questioning Cutler's accuracy.And I know it's been several years, but I don't remember seeing any highlights of Cutler missing open receivers as badly as Locker has routinely done in college.
