Jamaal Charles (1 Viewer)

[cvnpoka]

charles in ppr which should benefit him..week 1 - rb 10week 2 - rb 32week 3 - rb 10week 4 - bye weekweek 5 - rb 19week 6 - rb 14week 7 - rb 17week 8 - rb 2week 9 - rb 13week 10 - rb 7week 11 - rb 18week 12 - rb 5week 13 - rb 20week 14 - rb 41week 15 - rb 2

you really want to play this game?

 

[BigSeph]

It's truly fascinating how many people still think Haley is a genius for this RB tactic and how many people think TJ is better than Charles in any facet of the game.

Charles outdoes Jones on every single metric that you can possibly keep track of for RBs. Short yardage 3rd down conversions, 1st down ypc, average yards per touch, receptions, in fact the only stats that Jones is beating Charles in is carries and TDs.

For me, I try to get guys who are CONSISTENT from week to week. Sure it's great to get that 200 yard/3TD game out of a guy that goes off. But he does absolutely nothing for you when he has 30 yards and no TDs 3 other weeks out of the year.

Charles has a 76 and a 49 as his worst two yardage performances of the year. A 76 is his second worst performance ALL YEAR.

1/19/22/32/39 is what Jones has as his worst 5 performances this year, all those games with zero TDs.

Give me a team full of guys who are consistently putting up 76+ yards per game and lay one egg per year and I'll show you a championship fantasy football team.

Every league I'm in I went for SJax/Charles as my backfield, and I couldn't ask for a more consistent duo from week to week. In fact I wound up with Eli/Sjax/Charles/Nicks in all my 12 and 16-team money leagues, and I'm either in the semis or championship game in all 3.

I think Charles deserves more respect as a RB, don't think that other teams don't gameplan to stop him and he still gets his.

 

[Chreesto]

Jamaal Charles, 2010: 203 car., 1303 yards, 6.41 ypc

Jim Brown, 1963: 291 car., 1863 yards, 6.40 ypc

Barry Sanders, 1997: 335 car., 2053 yards, 6.1 ypc

OJ Simpson, 1973: 332 car., 2003 yards, 6.0 ypc

Fixed....not sure why this POS is still mentioned as an NFL player

I'm pretty sure the reason he's mentioned as an NFL player is because he WAS an NFL player. Funny how that works. I'm not an OJ Simpson fan but to pretend that he didn't play at a very high level for a long time is absurd. Murdering people doesn't change history.

 

[Billy Bats]

And yet, after 2 years of this, we have the following in week 15:T. Jones: 22 carries for 62 yards (2.8 ypc)J. Charles: 11 carries for 126 yards (11.5 ypc)There's something to keeping him fresh. There's something else about putting the ball in the hands of a clearly inferior runner at this point in time by a 2:1 margin. There is no reason whatsoever that Jones should have more carries than Charles. I'm not saying he should be the bellcow or even the clear ball carrier, but even a 55/45 split just makes so much more sense while still keeping him "fresh".

This is just lunacy

No way you take the ball out of Jones' hands. Imagine what kind of numbers Jamaal would have with even 25% more carries? Another 40-50pts and top 3rb. Makes me a little mad. Nice thread.

 

[Bri]

It's truly fascinating how many people still think Haley is a genius for this RB tactic and how many people think TJ is better than Charles in any facet of the game.Charles outdoes Jones on every single metric that you can possibly keep track of for RBs. Short yardage 3rd down conversions, 1st down ypc, average yards per touch, receptions, in fact the only stats that Jones is beating Charles in is carries and TDs.

There's more to running the ball than just handing it to a RB.There could be a myriad of reasons why Haley does this. I remember with the Giants, Ernie Accorsi took the time to explain to people something we often forget or take for granted- if you have a fast RB that likes to run outside, you're going to need some fast and/or agile linemen. Not every one of those big guys can move fast enough. He also spoke how they had issues with the FB and TE not being fast enough to lead Tiki in certain situations. They had good linemen too, "road graders" that teams would love to have as their Guards, so do they get rid of a G because he can't pull fast enough? It was a fifteen-twenty minute conversation I really enjoyed listening tne of the things many people missed was the Fisher said the biggest reason they drafted Jared Cook was for his speed to get outside and free up CJ with a key block. I don't know what it is in KC but it wasn't that long ago that they transitioned from one of the best OLs (at least in the decade) to a new crew and they got rid of their great (but old and probably slower) FB too. I wouldn't be surprised if Charles' speed creates problems for a coach in supplying him blockers that get there at the right time. Some plays will always work and work with most OL, but this is not as simple as drawing up a play and expecting everyone to fulfill their roles if they aren't fast enough.

 

[iMobile]

should be fun to watch Charles run vs Chris Johnson this weekend....

My RB1 and RB2 in the championship game, yes, should be much fun!!

 

[The Jacket]

A coach's job is NOT to preserve his players.

Haley works in close partnership with Pioli, who just gave him a new 5-year extension. The Chiefs are going to keep Charles fresh for the duration of the deal, not ruin him like most teams do and their franchise backs. Make no mistake, Charles will still be embarrassing defenses in 2014. Chris Johnson will be out of the league by then if he keeps getting the carries he does right now, ala Larry Johnson. As a Chiefs fan, I'm pretty happy with it. There is the odd game when Charles really should get more carries (the Rams game was one, when Jones and the team was struggling early), but overall he's fresh every time he touches the ball. That is, after all, why he's on pace for, oh, just the best YPC in NFL history. Nothing much. Also why he has the highest career YPC in the history of the league. And make no mistake, the two times he left the game due to cramp on Sunday would turn into 3 or 4 times if he was getting ridden like a training horse. The 30 seconds he spent hurt while laying on the turf last week for the first time all year would be minutes and likely games. The 80-yard run to seal a win with 4 minutes left would be a 12-yard run out of bounds instead.

 

[Bayhawks]

There's more to running the ball than just handing it to a RB.There could be a myriad of reasons why Haley does this. I remember with the Giants, Ernie Accorsi took the time to explain to people something we often forget or take for granted- if you have a fast RB that likes to run outside, you're going to need some fast and/or agile linemen. Not every one of those big guys can move fast enough. He also spoke how they had issues with the FB and TE not being fast enough to lead Tiki in certain situations. They had good linemen too, "road graders" that teams would love to have as their Guards, so do they get rid of a G because he can't pull fast enough? It was a fifteen-twenty minute conversation I really enjoyed listening tne of the things many people missed was the Fisher said the biggest reason they drafted Jared Cook was for his speed to get outside and free up CJ with a key block. I don't know what it is in KC but it wasn't that long ago that they transitioned from one of the best OLs (at least in the decade) to a new crew and they got rid of their great (but old and probably slower) FB too. I wouldn't be surprised if Charles' speed creates problems for a coach in supplying him blockers that get there at the right time. Some plays will always work and work with most OL, but this is not as simple as drawing up a play and expecting everyone to fulfill their roles if they aren't fast enough.

This is a very interesting post. However, since the original premise is flawed (if you have a fast RB that likes to run outside), then everything that follows is also flawed. Charles has a higher YPC in short-yardage situations, and has a higher YPC in carries between the tackles.

 

[Bayhawks]

make no mistake, the two times he left the game due to cramp on Sunday would turn into 3 or 4 times if he was getting ridden like a training horse. The 30 seconds he spent hurt while laying on the turf last week for the first time all year would be minutes and likely games. The 80-yard run to seal a win with 4 minutes left would be a 12-yard run out of bounds instead.

This is pure speculation. It is reasonable speculation, but still speculation. Just because you say "make no mistake" doesn't make what you post true.You contend that if Charles was worked harder, he would deal with more cramps (minor injuries), that recovering from those minor injuries would take minutes and games instead of seconds and plays, and that his 80 yard runs would turn into 12 yarders. It sounds good, because the premise (that if a back works less and is fresher, he will be more explosive) sounds good. However, history tells us otherwise.18/103/1/4/14/017/58/0/2/8/114/93/1/3/54/018/56/1/1/3/020/143/1/7/38/025/154/1/2/16/024/102/0/3/22/025/259/2/1/3/0That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game). That's hardly "keeping him fresh." 968 yards over those 8 games, for a 6.0 YPC. Seems like his amazing YPC didn't drop off when he was not being "kept fresh." And, finally, we see that his most productive game came after 7 games where he was receiving large amounts of carries.So, please, clarify how we should "make no mistake" about the fact that if Charles were to get more work, his YPC would drop, he'd get more cramps/dinged up, he would need more time to recover, and his explosiveness would be lost? I'm confused, because when he got more work, the opposite of everything that you said we should "make no mistake" about happened?

 

[Bri]

There's more to running the ball than just handing it to a RB.There could be a myriad of reasons why Haley does this. I remember with the Giants, Ernie Accorsi took the time to explain to people something we often forget or take for granted- if you have a fast RB that likes to run outside, you're going to need some fast and/or agile linemen. Not every one of those big guys can move fast enough. He also spoke how they had issues with the FB and TE not being fast enough to lead Tiki in certain situations. They had good linemen too, "road graders" that teams would love to have as their Guards, so do they get rid of a G because he can't pull fast enough? It was a fifteen-twenty minute conversation I really enjoyed listening tne of the things many people missed was the Fisher said the biggest reason they drafted Jared Cook was for his speed to get outside and free up CJ with a key block. I don't know what it is in KC but it wasn't that long ago that they transitioned from one of the best OLs (at least in the decade) to a new crew and they got rid of their great (but old and probably slower) FB too. I wouldn't be surprised if Charles' speed creates problems for a coach in supplying him blockers that get there at the right time. Some plays will always work and work with most OL, but this is not as simple as drawing up a play and expecting everyone to fulfill their roles if they aren't fast enough.

This is a very interesting post. However, since the original premise is flawed (if you have a fast RB that likes to run outside), then everything that follows is also flawed. Charles has a higher YPC in short-yardage situations, and has a higher YPC in carries between the tackles.

I'm not sure I understand you.I clearly stated I didn't know what it is in KC, but you seem to have some carry stats. Maybe you know em' well? Generally RBs do pound it "up the middle" in short yardage but you differentiated short yardage and between the tackles so that kinda throws me. Is Charles like Tiki used to and dashes to the corner of the end zone? I'm missing something here

 

[Bri]

Jacket you know KC- what's the thoughts on McCluster here?

 

[KCC]

A coach's job is NOT to preserve his players.

Haley works in close partnership with Pioli, who just gave him a new 5-year extension. The Chiefs are going to keep Charles fresh for the duration of the deal, not ruin him like most teams do and their franchise backs. Make no mistake, Charles will still be embarrassing defenses in 2014. Chris Johnson will be out of the league by then if he keeps getting the carries he does right now, ala Larry Johnson. As a Chiefs fan, I'm pretty happy with it. There is the odd game when Charles really should get more carries (the Rams game was one, when Jones and the team was struggling early), but overall he's fresh every time he touches the ball. That is, after all, why he's on pace for, oh, just the best YPC in NFL history. Nothing much. Also why he has the highest career YPC in the history of the league. And make no mistake, the two times he left the game due to cramp on Sunday would turn into 3 or 4 times if he was getting ridden like a training horse. The 30 seconds he spent hurt while laying on the turf last week for the first time all year would be minutes and likely games. The 80-yard run to seal a win with 4 minutes left would be a 12-yard run out of bounds instead.

You have no way of knowing Charles status for 2014 - no one does. Complete speculation can't be used to support an argument. However, let's look at some actual data:

Rushing Receiving Player Att Yd Avg TD Targt Recpt Yd Avg TD FL FPTS Charles, Jamaal RB KC 203 1303 6.4 4 56 39 415 10.6 1 2 80.0 Jones, Thomas RB KC 212 828 3.9 6 18 13 124 9.5 0 0 65.0

Charles is averaging 6.4 yards per carry. Jones is averaging 3.9. In other words, rushing production production increases by 64% when Jones goes out and Charles goes in. Can explain why it's better for the team to average 2.5 yards less per carry?

 

[The Jacket]

That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game).

8 games. I'm talking about keeping him fresh for years. They're going to take this approach with him for the forseeable future. I don't contend that he'd snap in half after one season, but the odds are strongly against him lasting 6, 7, 8 years -- playing at anything close to the level he is now -- if he takes the pounding that some guys do. It falls into the "we'll never know" category, but I'm pretty confident Charles wouldn't be able to do some of the things he currently does late in games and late in the year if he was driven into a wall of 300lbers 25 times a game.

Can explain why it's better for the team to average 2.5 yards less per carry?

In a single game in the regular season of 2010? No. Over the long haul? Sure. It'll explain itself. They just extended him to keep him around--healthy--for a long time. He's a special back, not a good one. Not a back you drive into the ground over 3.5 years and say goodbye to before giving him another deal and looking for a replacement in the 2nd round.One more thing. Do people even realize that he's going to end up with somewhere between 225 and 240 carries (nevermind some 45-odd catches)? I mean, yeesh. He probably is underused a tad, but the guy's 200lbs soaking wet and that's a reasonable workload, especially factoring in his work in the passing game and the presence of a solid #2 guy, a locker room leader. The REAL misuse of Charles is in short yardage. He's flat-out better than Jones, and that's where they're dropping the ball. A guy with Charles' numbers, historically ridiculous numbers, should have 10-12 TDs at this point. And he would with opportunity. They've settled for some FGs or short passing TDs on 3rd/4th down which he'd have converted.

 

[BigSeph]

That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game).

8 games. I'm talking about keeping him fresh for years. They're going to take this approach with him for the forseeable future. I don't contend that he'd snap in half after one season, but the odds are strongly against him lasting 6, 7, 8 years -- playing at anything close to the level he is now -- if he takes the pounding that some guys do. It falls into the "we'll never know" category, but I'm pretty confident Charles wouldn't be able to do some of the things he currently does late in games and late in the year if he was driven into a wall of 300lbers 25 times a game.

Can explain why it's better for the team to average 2.5 yards less per carry?

In a single game in the regular season of 2010? No. Over the long haul? Sure. It'll explain itself. They just extended him to keep him around--healthy--for a long time. He's a special back, not a good one. Not a back you drive into the ground over 3.5 years and say goodbye to before giving him another deal and looking for a replacement in the 2nd round.One more thing. Do people even realize that he's going to end up with somewhere between 225 and 240 carries (nevermind some 45-odd catches)? I mean, yeesh. He probably is underused a tad, but the guy's 200lbs soaking wet and that's a reasonable workload, especially factoring in his work in the passing game and the presence of a solid #2 guy, a locker room leader. The REAL misuse of Charles is in short yardage. He's flat-out better than Jones, and that's where they're dropping the ball. A guy with Charles' numbers, historically ridiculous numbers, should have 10-12 TDs at this point. And he would with opportunity. They've settled for some FGs or short passing TDs on 3rd/4th down which he'd have converted.

Barry Sanders played in all but 6 games from 1990-1998. He was 200 lbs. soaking wet. He averaged 5.0 ypc for his career. His last 5 years in the league his carries were 331, 314, 307, 335, 343. His first 3 seasons he had 877 carries. Charles' first 3 seasons so far he's at 460.So basically you have a HOF RB who averaged a full yard less over his career than Charles, who was no bigger than Charles, who had a MUCH higher workload than Charles, and it's your stance that they're "keeping him healthy?"You could make the case that the Lions were driving Sanders "into the ground" but a guy with the exact same frame as Charles had 410 more carries over the first 3 years of his career, over a full ypc less average than Charles, and you think the Chiefs are "saving" Charles? From what? The hall of fame?

 

[Bayhawks]

That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game).

8 games. I'm talking about keeping him fresh for years. They're going to take this approach with him for the forseeable future. I don't contend that he'd snap in half after one season, but the odds are strongly against him lasting 6, 7, 8 years -- playing at anything close to the level he is now -- if he takes the pounding that some guys do. It falls into the "we'll never know" category, but I'm pretty confident Charles wouldn't be able to do some of the things he currently does late in games and late in the year if he was driven into a wall of 300lbers 25 times a game.

Okay, well then this comment falls into the "we already know" category. He's shown that he can continue to do the impressive things he's done with 20.1 carries/game, and I'd be more than happy with somewhere close to that number.

 

[nlgb1]

That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game).

8 games. I'm talking about keeping him fresh for years. They're going to take this approach with him for the forseeable future. I don't contend that he'd snap in half after one season, but the odds are strongly against him lasting 6, 7, 8 years -- playing at anything close to the level he is now -- if he takes the pounding that some guys do. It falls into the "we'll never know" category, but I'm pretty confident Charles wouldn't be able to do some of the things he currently does late in games and late in the year if he was driven into a wall of 300lbers 25 times a game.

Okay, well then this comment falls into the "we already know" category. He's shown that he can continue to do the impressive things he's done with 20.1 carries/game, and I'd be more than happy with somewhere close to that number.

although id like him to get more carries, im fine with the way it is now. only thing holding him back from top numbers was that he strangely didnt break any 10+yd tds outside of that first game. usually if you have a ypc like he did, you get 4 or 5 long-ish tds, just didnt turn out that way. same thing happens next year with maybe 1 or 2 more carries a game and he will get his for sure.

 

[cvnpoka]

seems like he is tackled at the gl all the time. he did vulture 2 tds from jones iirc.

 

[Billy Bats]

Big fan of this guy, Jamaal.

Jamaal bringing it today.

 

[theglorydays]

Charles has been a nice low end rb1 / high end rb2 this year. It will continue to be his ceiling as long as Jones is in KC. The talent is there, but this staff won't give him the carries and goal line work to go higher.

He finished as an rb1 last year and right now he's rb 9 in standard scoring leagues. He is a fine rb1 and is only 15 fantasy points down from from Mcfadden who is currently rb4.

While true, I don't think that's the right way to look at the stats.

Either way as it stands right now he is currently rb3 in standard scoring leagues with 221.5 fantasy points. Only Foster and Hillis have outscored him this year...

 

[Gopher State]

Charles has been a nice low end rb1 / high end rb2 this year. It will continue to be his ceiling as long as Jones is in KC. The talent is there, but this staff won't give him the carries and goal line work to go higher.

He finished as an rb1 last year and right now he's rb 9 in standard scoring leagues. He is a fine rb1 and is only 15 fantasy points down from from Mcfadden who is currently rb4.

While true, I don't think that's the right way to look at the stats.

Either way as it stands right now he is currently rb3 in standard scoring leagues with 221.5 fantasy points. Only Foster and Hillis have outscored him this year...

In my non PPR money leage he is the current rb 10, ok but not worth the 2-1 pick his owner spent on him, and ended up missing the play offs.

 

[theglorydays]

Charles has been a nice low end rb1 / high end rb2 this year. It will continue to be his ceiling as long as Jones is in KC. The talent is there, but this staff won't give him the carries and goal line work to go higher.

He finished as an rb1 last year and right now he's rb 9 in standard scoring leagues. He is a fine rb1 and is only 15 fantasy points down from from Mcfadden who is currently rb4.

While true, I don't think that's the right way to look at the stats.

Either way as it stands right now he is currently rb3 in standard scoring leagues with 221.5 fantasy points. Only Foster and Hillis have outscored him this year...

In my non PPR money leage he is the current rb 10, ok but not worth the 2-1 pick his owner spent on him, and ended up missing the play offs.

what type of scoring does your league employ?

 

[The Jacket]

Charles has been a nice low end rb1 / high end rb2 this year. It will continue to be his ceiling as long as Jones is in KC. The talent is there, but this staff won't give him the carries and goal line work to go higher.

He finished as an rb1 last year and right now he's rb 9 in standard scoring leagues. He is a fine rb1 and is only 15 fantasy points down from from Mcfadden who is currently rb4.

While true, I don't think that's the right way to look at the stats.

Either way as it stands right now he is currently rb3 in standard scoring leagues with 221.5 fantasy points. Only Foster and Hillis have outscored him this year...

In my non PPR money leage he is the current rb 10, ok but not worth the 2-1 pick his owner spent on him, and ended up missing the play offs.

Either your league sucks or your numbers are wrong.He's T-RB4 in *standard* scoring non-PPR leagues behind only Peterson, Hillis and Foster. With just 9 points more he'd be RB2 overall. In other words, if the Chiefs weren't up by 24 at the half, he'd probably be your RB2 and WELL worth the 2-1 pick. Even though that's above his ADP, meaning his general value is even better.

 

[The Jacket]

BTW: another 77 yards today on only 13 carries and Charles maintains his eye-popping 6.4 YPC average.

A similar performance next week would see him end up with roughly 230 carries for 1450 yards, one of the more impressive rushing performances in recent history.

 

[Go deep]

Clearly the best Rb this season. Should get MVP considerations, he would easliy win RB MVP if there was one.

 

[shadyridr]

Thomas Jones definitely deserved more carries. He knows how to grind out those tough yards

 

[The Jacket]

Thomas Jones definitely deserved more carries. He knows how to grind out those tough yards

I don't really want to derail more threads about Charles needing more carries, but as far as that goes I really think they'll "unleash" him in the playoffs. You know, the 25 carries most people want him to get every single season. I think they've been "getting by" as they've handled it -- and it's largely worked (#1 run game/division champions) -- and are now in position to really lean heavily on their fresh-legged weapon. I could be wrong (sure hope I'm not as it'd make me sick), but I don't see Jones getting 18-20 carries for 50 yards in the playoffs. Not unless they're up by 21 heading into the 4th, anyway. I think it'll be all Charles, early and often. And I don't think the Jets will stop him at all.

 

[Go deep]

Thomas Jones definitely deserved more carries. He knows how to grind out those tough yards

I don't really want to derail more threads about Charles needing more carries, but as far as that goes I really think they'll "unleash" him in the playoffs. You know, the 25 carries most people want him to get every single season. I think they've been "getting by" as they've handled it -- and it's largely worked (#1 run game/division champions) -- and are now in position to really lean heavily on their fresh-legged weapon. I could be wrong (sure hope I'm not as it'd make me sick), but I don't see Jones getting 18-20 carries for 50 yards in the playoffs. Not unless they're up by 21 heading into the 4th, anyway. I think it'll be all Charles, early and often. And I don't think the Jets will stop him at all.

As a Charles owner i was not thrilled with Jones getting as many touches as he did. However, i agree with how Haley handled the situation. Not only did it work, but Charles is not as beatin up as much as most RB's and will have a longer career without touching the ball 350 times a season.As an FF owner though, i would have loved to see what he could have done with 300+ carries, 60+ receptions and goalline touches. If TJones wasnt in the picture next year, i would seriously consider ranking Charles as the #1 dynasty RB. As it is, the only RB's i would even consider taking before him would be CJ, Peterson and MJD.

 

[T with T]

He just doesn't pass the eye test for me.

Mediocre talent, but could be in a good situation.

I dont know what your watching pizza delivery guy if he doesn't pass the EYE test LOl... you kidding the guy is incredibly fast, quick, strong, great wr, great vision ability to set up his blocks and his acceleration and top gear to get up to 4.2 speed is insane dont post on charles boards moreno fan.

 

[T with T]

That's 161 carries in 8 games (20.1 carries/game).

8 games. I'm talking about keeping him fresh for years. They're going to take this approach with him for the forseeable future. I don't contend that he'd snap in half after one season, but the odds are strongly against him lasting 6, 7, 8 years -- playing at anything close to the level he is now -- if he takes the pounding that some guys do. It falls into the "we'll never know" category, but I'm pretty confident Charles wouldn't be able to do some of the things he currently does late in games and late in the year if he was driven into a wall of 300lbers 25 times a game.

Can explain why it's better for the team to average 2.5 yards less per carry?

In a single game in the regular season of 2010? No. Over the long haul? Sure. It'll explain itself. They just extended him to keep him around--healthy--for a long time. He's a special back, not a good one. Not a back you drive into the ground over 3.5 years and say goodbye to before giving him another deal and looking for a replacement in the 2nd round.One more thing. Do people even realize that he's going to end up with somewhere between 225 and 240 carries (nevermind some 45-odd catches)? I mean, yeesh. He probably is underused a tad, but the guy's 200lbs soaking wet and that's a reasonable workload, especially factoring in his work in the passing game and the presence of a solid #2 guy, a locker room leader. Jones will be gone next year and charles will get a tad more carries then he had this year with More goalline... take away 6 of them tjones 1 yard runs and J.charles is top 3 back.... Charles/rice guys like that will get better as they mature still only 23 The REAL misuse of Charles is in short yardage. He's flat-out better than Jones, and that's where they're dropping the ball. A guy with Charles' numbers, historically ridiculous numbers, should have 10-12 TDs at this point. And he would with opportunity. They've settled for some FGs or short passing TDs on 3rd/4th down which he'd have converted.

 

[T with T]

rbs get most carries from age 25-27

thats the prime... a RUNNINGBACKS CAREER is 20-23 lowest amount of carries 24-27 is prime for a back.... 28-31 is decline.... its like a up and down decline

 

[T with T]

charles has 4 great years ahead before a decline... look for 1400 plus next 5

 

[theplayer11]

incredible that a guy can get 23 carries for 51 yards(Jones) while Charles gets 13 for 77 and has avg. over 6 yards/carry for the year. I know, some will say he did that because his workload was kept down, and I do understand that......but 23 carries to 13?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Jones gets almost all the carries once a game is out of reach - and that's a great plan IMO. RB injuries are Russian Roulette - you don't know when it's coming, just that if you keep going it will happen. Why take the chance when a game is decided?

It's the 60/40 split in favor of Jones when games were still in doubt earlier in the year that was nuts.