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JR weights 260 pounds, which opponent will he finally throw for his weight or more?

Week 1 12 for 30 208 yards

Week 2 7 for 24 109 yards

Remainder of Schedule:

Week OPP

3 DEN @ OAK

4 OAK @ HOU

5 OAK @ NYG

6 PHI @ OAK

7 NYJ @ OAK

8 OAK @ SD

9 Bye

10 KC @ OAK

11 CIN @ OAK

12 OAK @ DAL

13 OAK @ PIT

14 WAS @ OAK

15 OAK @ DEN

16 OAK @ CLE

17 BAL @ OAK

 
This is the daily "Make fun of JaMarcus Russell" thread. I get it. He's not exactly Warren Moon right now. In fact, he was an unbelievable 4/18 prior to the game-winning drive. It's hard to have a guy's back with those numbers. A freshman QB starting for Bethune-Cookman against Alabama should not go 4/18. HOWEVER, Oakland got the ball back with 2:30 remaining in Arrowhead, down 10-6. Crowd was going nuts. The TD Kansas City just scored looked like it was the clincher, especially the way Oakland's offense had been playing. Then he put together the following drive:

1-10-OAK31(2:30) J.Russell pass incomplete deep right to T.Watkins (M.Leggett).

2-10-OAK31(2:23) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-Z.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 31 - No Play.

2-15-OAK26(2:23) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep right to L.Murphy ran ob at OAK 45 for 19 yards.

1-10-OAK45(2:18) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-L.Murphy, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 45 - No Play.

1-15-OAK40(2:18) (Shotgun) J.Russell sacked at OAK 37 for -3 yards (W.Gilberry).

PENALTY on KC-W.Gilberry, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at OAK 37.

1-10-KC48(2:10) J.Russell pass short right to D.McFadden to KC 37 for 11 yards (M.Brown).

1-10-KC37(2:00) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass incomplete short left to T.Watkins (T.Hali).

2-10-KC37(1:55) J.Russell pass incomplete deep left to D.Heyward-Bey.

3-10-KC37(1:55) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-C.Green, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 37 - No Play.

3-15-KC42(1:47) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep middle to T.Watkins to KC 14 for 28 yards (J.Page).

1-10-KC14(1:17) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass short middle to D.McFadden to KC 5 for 9 yards (M.Brown).

2-1-KC5(1:12) D.McFadden left end for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Four completions in 58 minutes, then four completions in the last two minutes when they HAD to have it. I'm a glass-half-full guy. I have to look for positives. Each of those four completions was for good yardage, especially the 28-yard laser beam (you'll see it on the highlites) on a key 3rd & 15.

Bottom line... he showed leadership when the chips were down. He did the same thing last Monday night, hitting Murphy for the huge go-ahead TD strike on 4th down late in the game. Russell doesn't play defense. It's not his fault the Chargers marched down the field for the win. I am encouraged to a degree by what I see, and I am cautiously optimistic that he'll continue to grow with the young weapons around him. As they say, there are no "pictures" of the win in the newspaper. Did you win the game or didn't you?

 
19-54 in the first two games of the season? WTF. I don't think I've ever seen suck like that before.

19-54. That is outrageous.

 
This is the daily "Make fun of JaMarcus Russell" thread. I get it. He's not exactly Warren Moon right now. In fact, he was an unbelievable 4/18 prior to the game-winning drive. It's hard to have a guy's back with those numbers. A freshman QB starting for Bethune-Cookman against Alabama should not go 4/18. HOWEVER, Oakland got the ball back with 2:30 remaining in Arrowhead, down 10-6. Crowd was going nuts. The TD Kansas City just scored looked like it was the clincher, especially the way Oakland's offense had been playing. Then he put together the following drive:

1-10-OAK31(2:30) J.Russell pass incomplete deep right to T.Watkins (M.Leggett).

2-10-OAK31(2:23) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-Z.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 31 - No Play.

2-15-OAK26(2:23) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep right to L.Murphy ran ob at OAK 45 for 19 yards.

1-10-OAK45(2:18) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-L.Murphy, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 45 - No Play.

1-15-OAK40(2:18) (Shotgun) J.Russell sacked at OAK 37 for -3 yards (W.Gilberry).

PENALTY on KC-W.Gilberry, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at OAK 37.

1-10-KC48(2:10) J.Russell pass short right to D.McFadden to KC 37 for 11 yards (M.Brown).

1-10-KC37(2:00) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass incomplete short left to T.Watkins (T.Hali).

2-10-KC37(1:55) J.Russell pass incomplete deep left to D.Heyward-Bey.

3-10-KC37(1:55) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-C.Green, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 37 - No Play.

3-15-KC42(1:47) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep middle to T.Watkins to KC 14 for 28 yards (J.Page).

1-10-KC14(1:17) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass short middle to D.McFadden to KC 5 for 9 yards (M.Brown).

2-1-KC5(1:12) D.McFadden left end for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Four completions in 58 minutes, then four completions in the last two minutes when they HAD to have it. I'm a glass-half-full guy. I have to look for positives. Each of those four completions was for good yardage, especially the 28-yard laser beam (you'll see it on the highlites) on a key 3rd & 15.

Bottom line... he showed leadership when the chips were down. He did the same thing last Monday night, hitting Murphy for the huge go-ahead TD strike on 4th down late in the game. Russell doesn't play defense. It's not his fault the Chargers marched down the field for the win. I am encouraged to a degree by what I see, and I am cautiously optimistic that he'll continue to grow with the young weapons around him. As they say, there are no "pictures" of the win in the newspaper. Did you win the game or didn't you?
So they should find another QB and let JaMarcus come in for one drive a game.
 
During the Charger game they brought in Bruce Gradkowski for 2-3 plays and I swear he looked 10x as good. He completed two short passes and showed some touch on the ball. I would bench JaMarcus right now.

 
During the Charger game they brought in Bruce Gradkowski for 2-3 plays and I swear he looked 10x as good. He completed two short passes and showed some touch on the ball. I would bench JaMarcus right now.
This is exactly right... remember Mike & Mike where even asking the question about what does Cable do since Russell was ready to come back in the game and Gradkowski was looking good.
 
This is the daily "Make fun of JaMarcus Russell" thread. I get it. He's not exactly Warren Moon right now. In fact, he was an unbelievable 4/18 prior to the game-winning drive. It's hard to have a guy's back with those numbers. A freshman QB starting for Bethune-Cookman against Alabama should not go 4/18. HOWEVER, Oakland got the ball back with 2:30 remaining in Arrowhead, down 10-6. Crowd was going nuts. The TD Kansas City just scored looked like it was the clincher, especially the way Oakland's offense had been playing. Then he put together the following drive:

1-10-OAK31(2:30) J.Russell pass incomplete deep right to T.Watkins (M.Leggett).

2-10-OAK31(2:23) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-Z.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 31 - No Play.

2-15-OAK26(2:23) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep right to L.Murphy ran ob at OAK 45 for 19 yards.

1-10-OAK45(2:18) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-L.Murphy, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 45 - No Play.

1-15-OAK40(2:18) (Shotgun) J.Russell sacked at OAK 37 for -3 yards (W.Gilberry).

PENALTY on KC-W.Gilberry, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at OAK 37.

1-10-KC48(2:10) J.Russell pass short right to D.McFadden to KC 37 for 11 yards (M.Brown).

1-10-KC37(2:00) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass incomplete short left to T.Watkins (T.Hali).

2-10-KC37(1:55) J.Russell pass incomplete deep left to D.Heyward-Bey.

3-10-KC37(1:55) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-C.Green, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 37 - No Play.

3-15-KC42(1:47) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep middle to T.Watkins to KC 14 for 28 yards (J.Page).

1-10-KC14(1:17) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass short middle to D.McFadden to KC 5 for 9 yards (M.Brown).

2-1-KC5(1:12) D.McFadden left end for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Four completions in 58 minutes, then four completions in the last two minutes when they HAD to have it. I'm a glass-half-full guy. I have to look for positives. Each of those four completions was for good yardage, especially the 28-yard laser beam (you'll see it on the highlites) on a key 3rd & 15.

Bottom line... he showed leadership when the chips were down. He did the same thing last Monday night, hitting Murphy for the huge go-ahead TD strike on 4th down late in the game. Russell doesn't play defense. It's not his fault the Chargers marched down the field for the win. I am encouraged to a degree by what I see, and I am cautiously optimistic that he'll continue to grow with the young weapons around him. As they say, there are no "pictures" of the win in the newspaper. Did you win the game or didn't you?
I'm with you, RN, in being a glass-half-full kinda guy in relation JaMarcus, but even with him "engineering" the game winning drive, my optimism is really getting harder to keep up.Thought that just a little bit of his inaccuracies can be put on his rookie receivers, and from the drive above, it's clear that his offense soemtimes doesn't do it's job with all of the penalties.

But it's harder and harder to keep that defense up as, even with JaMarcus doing what he needed to do to get the team in position to win, it's in spite of his performance and not really because of it. With his size, he should be more confident in the pocket, and use his size and strength to either shrug off some pass rushes or force himself into a better position out of the pocket to throw.

Hey, he will have the odd throws that are tight and on target. But looking at these two weeks, I am losing faith that JaMarcus will be able to mature and improve the way this team needs him to to become successful with the weapons around him.

 
During the Charger game they brought in Bruce Gradkowski for 2-3 plays and I swear he looked 10x as good. He completed two short passes and showed some touch on the ball. I would bench JaMarcus right now.
This is exactly right... remember Mike & Mike where even asking the question about what does Cable do since Russell was ready to come back in the game and Gradkowski was looking good.
i might take a flyer on gradkowski but i cannot believe they will allow russell to play this poorly for an entire season.
 
During the Charger game they brought in Bruce Gradkowski for 2-3 plays and I swear he looked 10x as good. He completed two short passes and showed some touch on the ball. I would bench JaMarcus right now.
This is exactly right... remember Mike & Mike where even asking the question about what does Cable do since Russell was ready to come back in the game and Gradkowski was looking good.
i might take a flyer on gradkowski but i cannot believe they will allow russell to play this poorly for an entire season.
If JR is benched Al Davis would fire Cable.
 
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During the Charger game they brought in Bruce Gradkowski for 2-3 plays and I swear he looked 10x as good. He completed two short passes and showed some touch on the ball. I would bench JaMarcus right now.
This is exactly right... remember Mike & Mike where even asking the question about what does Cable do since Russell was ready to come back in the game and Gradkowski was looking good.
i might take a flyer on gradkowski but i cannot believe they will allow russell to play this poorly for an entire season.
If JR is benched Al Davis would fire Cable.
You can bet however much money you have in the bank that Russell would not be benched unless it got the okay from Al in the first place.
 
Hard not to be impressed how he throws deep with such ease, like a flick of the wrist, but he is just not very accurate and has no touch

 
This is the daily "Make fun of JaMarcus Russell" thread. I get it. He's not exactly Warren Moon right now. In fact, he was an unbelievable 4/18 prior to the game-winning drive. It's hard to have a guy's back with those numbers. A freshman QB starting for Bethune-Cookman against Alabama should not go 4/18. HOWEVER, Oakland got the ball back with 2:30 remaining in Arrowhead, down 10-6. Crowd was going nuts. The TD Kansas City just scored looked like it was the clincher, especially the way Oakland's offense had been playing. Then he put together the following drive:

1-10-OAK31(2:30) J.Russell pass incomplete deep right to T.Watkins (M.Leggett).

2-10-OAK31(2:23) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-Z.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 31 - No Play.

2-15-OAK26(2:23) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep right to L.Murphy ran ob at OAK 45 for 19 yards.

1-10-OAK45(2:18) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-L.Murphy, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at OAK 45 - No Play.

1-15-OAK40(2:18) (Shotgun) J.Russell sacked at OAK 37 for -3 yards (W.Gilberry).

PENALTY on KC-W.Gilberry, Personal Foul, 15 yards, enforced at OAK 37.

1-10-KC48(2:10) J.Russell pass short right to D.McFadden to KC 37 for 11 yards (M.Brown).

1-10-KC37(2:00) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass incomplete short left to T.Watkins (T.Hali).

2-10-KC37(1:55) J.Russell pass incomplete deep left to D.Heyward-Bey.

3-10-KC37(1:55) (Shotgun) PENALTY on OAK-C.Green, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at KC 37 - No Play.

3-15-KC42(1:47) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass deep middle to T.Watkins to KC 14 for 28 yards (J.Page).

1-10-KC14(1:17) (Shotgun) J.Russell pass short middle to D.McFadden to KC 5 for 9 yards (M.Brown).

2-1-KC5(1:12) D.McFadden left end for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.
Four completions in 58 minutes, then four completions in the last two minutes when they HAD to have it. I'm a glass-half-full guy. I have to look for positives. Each of those four completions was for good yardage, especially the 28-yard laser beam (you'll see it on the highlites) on a key 3rd & 15.

Bottom line... he showed leadership when the chips were down. He did the same thing last Monday night, hitting Murphy for the huge go-ahead TD strike on 4th down late in the game. Russell doesn't play defense. It's not his fault the Chargers marched down the field for the win. I am encouraged to a degree by what I see, and I am cautiously optimistic that he'll continue to grow with the young weapons around him. As they say, there are no "pictures" of the win in the newspaper. Did you win the game or didn't you?
he sucks.& your math is wrong somewhere. he finished the 7/24. so does that mean he was 3/18???

 
I still remember the Elway comparisons coming out, and how ludicrous I thought it was when Russell suddenly got hyped as a potential top-10 pick. The guy almost lost his starting job prior to his junior season, played poorly against every quality defense he faced, earned the distinction of QBing "one of the best 2-loss teams in history!", and had HUGE questions about his drive and motivation. But, hey, he had the best physical tools since Elway, and he lit up a terrible Notre Dame defense in his last collegiate game. I guess that's all that matters.

 
I understand why you all pile on Jamarcus. As a fantasy player, he truly does suck. He may not even be a good QB right now. But here's the thing,

Just like you pick personnel to fit a particular "scheme" like 3-4 defense, or cover two, there is a particular "scheme" that the Raiders have chosen as their blueprint. That is matching the big, fast WR's over the top of soft zones and stretching the field. In theory, this opens up the middle for the running backs to do thier damage. Kinda a "pick your poison". When executed correctly, it would be a lethal combination for most defenses. Hey, I didn't say it was my theory. It's Al's theory.

There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy.

Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf. Too much time and money invested. I can only hope Russell develops. What do you want me to say?; I follow them faithfully, win or lose.

But I look over at the Jets Mark Sanchez with envy. Really the past few years - I have seen better rookies come out and show continual develpment. The 2009 Raiders are now 1-1. And technically JRuss engineered game winning drives in both games. I don't want to see us have to wait till the late fourth to get our act together. This team is a lot better than they look right now.

All the marbles have been bet on Russell. I can say this much about him. At least he has the mental toughness to take the pressure. He's not some flake like Vince Young. I know that I need to have my rose colored glasses checked, but at this point Raiders are a team to be reckoned with in a weak division.

 
I understand why you all pile on Jamarcus. As a fantasy player, he truly does suck. He may not even be a good QB right now. But here's the thing,Just like you pick personnel to fit a particular "scheme" like 3-4 defense, or cover two, there is a particular "scheme" that the Raiders have chosen as their blueprint. That is matching the big, fast WR's over the top of soft zones and stretching the field. In theory, this opens up the middle for the running backs to do thier damage. Kinda a "pick your poison". When executed correctly, it would be a lethal combination for most defenses. Hey, I didn't say it was my theory. It's Al's theory.There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy. Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf. Too much time and money invested. I can only hope Russell develops. What do you want me to say?; I follow them faithfully, win or lose.But I look over at the Jets Mark Sanchez with envy. Really the past few years - I have seen better rookies come out and show continual develpment. The 2009 Raiders are now 1-1. And technically JRuss engineered game winning drives in both games. I don't want to see us have to wait till the late fourth to get our act together. This team is a lot better than they look right now. All the marbles have been bet on Russell. I can say this much about him. At least he has the mental toughness to take the pressure. He's not some flake like Vince Young. I know that I need to have my rose colored glasses checked, but at this point Raiders are a team to be reckoned with in a weak division.
Sometimes I think Al sees the players how he wants to see them and not for who they really are.JR is an incredible physical specimen with an arm we can already nickname "Thunder", however this does not mean he knows there it is going - hence the problem.The Raiders will grind away with JR for about another three years before giving up on him, the shame is that the defense looks great. If they had Jeff Garcia back there and stayed with a strong running game combined with a stout defense the division is theirs.
 
I understand why you all pile on Jamarcus. As a fantasy player, he truly does suck. He may not even be a good QB right now. But here's the thing,Just like you pick personnel to fit a particular "scheme" like 3-4 defense, or cover two, there is a particular "scheme" that the Raiders have chosen as their blueprint. That is matching the big, fast WR's over the top of soft zones and stretching the field. In theory, this opens up the middle for the running backs to do thier damage. Kinda a "pick your poison". When executed correctly, it would be a lethal combination for most defenses. Hey, I didn't say it was my theory. It's Al's theory.There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy. Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf. Too much time and money invested. I can only hope Russell develops. What do you want me to say?; I follow them faithfully, win or lose.But I look over at the Jets Mark Sanchez with envy. Really the past few years - I have seen better rookies come out and show continual develpment. The 2009 Raiders are now 1-1. And technically JRuss engineered game winning drives in both games. I don't want to see us have to wait till the late fourth to get our act together. This team is a lot better than they look right now. All the marbles have been bet on Russell. I can say this much about him. At least he has the mental toughness to take the pressure. He's not some flake like Vince Young. I know that I need to have my rose colored glasses checked, but at this point Raiders are a team to be reckoned with in a weak division.
The best part is that the Raiders *PASSED ON JAY CUTLER* the year before Russell came out. Even if they wanted someone with an ICBM attached to his shoulder, there were guys that qualified that had actually done something at the college level (and by "something" I mean something other than almost losing their job to the backup and quarterbacking the best team in history that managed to choke away two games).
 
I have a hard seeing how anyone can defend Russel at this point. You can't teach accuracy...and he has NONE. Some QB's can be taught how to read a Defense, or small mechanical things to improve their consistancy...but these aren't JR's problems. With a perfect pocket, and perfect form, he's still a yard off on most intermediate throws. The Raiders continue to be (one of) the laughingstock(s) of the NFL trotting this guy out week after week.

 
There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy. Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf.
Why? There are dozens of unemployed QBs with big arms. Jeff George could step in right now and easily suck as bad as Russell is sucking.
 
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the OC should let him take off running more. at that size, he has would at least have a pretty good chance for 260 yards combined (passing/rushing). I can't imagine too many DB's would be excited to see him rumbling their way.

 
You really can't. A lot of people think that accuracy is a correctable deficiency, but very very few QBs who were inaccurate in college go on to suddenly become accurate in the pros.Actually, thinking about it some more, I suspect that you *CAN* teach accuracy, but only to a certain extent, and by the time a guy has become a starter at the major college level he's probably learned as much as he can in that department. In the same way, you can technically "teach" arm strength (take a noodle-armed HS QB, lock him in the gym for a month, and his arm strength will improve)... but by the time a guy has reached the big-time college level, he's probably already maxed out his potential for improvement. A more accurate statement is that you CAN teach accuracy, but by the time a QB is getting drafted, he's probably already maxed out his potential in that department.
 
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The Raiders should probably swallow their pride and do the same thing they did with Robert Gallery and move Jemarcus to guard.

 
There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy.

Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf.
Why? There are dozens of unemployed QBs with big arms. Jeff George could step in right now and easily suck as bad as Russell is sucking.
But JaMarcus literally has big arms. His sleeves look like they are baking a loaf of bread. Kenny Powers has more cuts than this guy.
 
The Raiders should probably swallow their pride and do the same thing they did with Robert Gallery and move Jemarcus to guard.
There is another sure-fire can't miss player the Raiders drafted. Robert Gallary was supposed to be the left tackle for the raiders for the next decade;m his combine scores, tenacious speed, size and athletic ability were to set a new standard by which all other LT would be judged , instead he ends up at guard and with the help of Art Shell he has learned to play decently.
 
There are few QB's in this league with the arm strength as JRuss, and the "scheme" doesn't fit your garden variety game manager like Gradkowski or Frye. Few in the NFL can. But Al Davis is hoping that JRuss can develop the chemistry with his recievers to execute fly patterns like the one last week on 4th and 15 to Murphy.

Even if Al Davis's blueprint fails, the dye is cast. It's too late to pluck another big arm off the shelf.
Why? There are dozens of unemployed QBs with big arms. Jeff George could step in right now and easily suck as bad as Russell is sucking.
But JaMarcus literally has big arms. His sleeves look like they are baking a loaf of bread. Kenny Powers has more cuts than this guy.
The back of his neck looks like rolls - I bet it makes McFadden hungry.
 
I don't think he has thrown one pass that got over 7 feet off the ground (only slight hyperbole).

The dump off pass to McFadden was the clearest indication that he put any touch on a pass. I am not sure that touch and accuracy can be taught.

 

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