James Jones - GB (1 Viewer)

[ex-ghost]

What are your thoughts on James Jones the next couple of years? He seems to be holding off Nelson for the #3 spot this year and Driver is 35 with bad knees. Do you see him being the #3 option next year or the year after for the Packers (behind Jennings and Finley)?

 

[noneother]

I am having regrets about giving away Mike Thomas for him.... just seems a victim of situation.... if he isn't equal to finley in targets by the end of the year, I will cut bait...

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

I am having regrets about giving away Mike Thomas for him.... just seems a victim of situation.... if he isn't equal to finley in targets by the end of the year, I will cut bait...

That is a lofty goal. You realize that it's starting to look more and more like the offense is going to revolve around Finley right?

 

[cr8f]

I am having regrets about giving away Mike Thomas for him.... just seems a victim of situation.... if he isn't equal to finley in targets by the end of the year, I will cut bait...

Finley may have more targets than Jennings.

 

[noneother]

Wanted to be aggressive. However, I'll reposition to "third in targets within 10% of second". Which based on the above statements may still be difficult to achieve.

 

[Zoomanji]

check these threads for starters

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...mes+jones\

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...mes+jones\

 

[footballsavvy]

I agree he's more of a cheap handcuff to Jennings. I think he only has real value if Jennings gets injured. Finley appears to be solidifying an 80+ catch role in that offense. If Jennings gets the smae that might barely leave WR3 stats for Jones, if not less.

Even with 580 attempts at nearly a 70% completetion rate thats 400 receptions. Give 80 to Finley and 85 to Jennings... wait that's only 165. Maybe there's still plenty to go around for Jones to have a 70 catch season (70/1000/8)???

 

[smackdaddies]

Why do people keep smoking crack?

1. This is Jones 4th year. He has in no way demonstrated the ability to be a starting WR in the NFL of any great ablility. He may well be the Packers #3 WR this year. That will get him, max, 40 recpts. More likely 35. Which will place him 5th in rcpts for the team, tied with 3 other players (Nelson, Jackson and perhaps D Lee).

2. Last year Jones had as many recpts as Donald Lee. Donald Lee people, a TE who couldnt even hold on to his starting position last year, and there is some discussion of him being cut this year (I dont think that will happen, he is the only TE that can block worth a tinkers damm).

3. Rodgers is what the packers offense revolves around, not JFin, not Jennings, not anyone. And Rogers will throw to anyone who is open. That spreads out all those 400 rcpts to about 15 players.

4. Drivers knees are fine. He looks good in practice, he looks good in games. Simply because a guy gets his knees scoped doesnt mean his knees are "bad" The Packers just gave him more money and extended his contract. We should all wish for bad "knees".

Even if Jones becomes a starter AND Driver retires, 60 rcpts is a very high number. WR 2 material in ff at best.

 

[Bri]

What are your thoughts on James Jones the next couple of years? He seems to be holding off Nelson for the #3 spot this year and Driver is 35 with bad knees. Do you see him being the #3 option next year or the year after for the Packers (behind Jennings and Finley)?

(For FF) a fantastic free agent whenever his contract is up in GB. Few players talents speak for themselves and scream for opportunity like his is. I'd bet he's outstanding in PPR leagues when he gets a chance.Suppose (just suppose) he's traded to hated rival Minnesota where he gets to start this year-where do you rank him then? See I think that's where Jones' value truly is for FF.

USAToday lists Jones' contract as being done in 2009. Clearly it's not. I think he's there just through the end of 2010, but could use some help here.

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/footbal...nterstitialskip

 

[sho nuff]

Why do people keep smoking crack?

1. This is Jones 4th year. He has in no way demonstrated the ability to be a starting WR in the NFL of any great ablility. He may well be the Packers #3 WR this year. That will get him, max, 40 recpts. More likely 35. Which will place him 5th in rcpts for the team, tied with 3 other players (Nelson, Jackson and perhaps D Lee).

2. Last year Jones had as many recpts as Donald Lee. Donald Lee people, a TE who couldnt even hold on to his starting position last year, and there is some discussion of him being cut this year (I dont think that will happen, he is the only TE that can block worth a tinkers damm).

3. Rodgers is what the packers offense revolves around, not JFin, not Jennings, not anyone. And Rogers will throw to anyone who is open. That spreads out all those 400 rcpts to about 15 players.

4. Drivers knees are fine. He looks good in practice, he looks good in games. Simply because a guy gets his knees scoped doesnt mean his knees are "bad" The Packers just gave him more money and extended his contract. We should all wish for bad "knees".

Even if Jones becomes a starter AND Driver retires, 60 rcpts is a very high number. WR 2 material in ff at best.

1. I don't think its crack smoking. He has shown the ability to be a very solid WR. He is not a #1, they have Jennings for that. But if Driver does drop off, he could very well step into that role and perform well. I agree right now he is #3 only at this point if he even holds onto that.2. Lee was on the field a bit more and the TE is used quite often in that offense.

3. Agreed there...I think the value will be if Driver's play drops off or there is an injury.

4. Agree here too, I think the reports of his demise are a bit premature.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Why do people keep smoking crack?

1. This is Jones 4th year. He has in no way demonstrated the ability to be a starting WR in the NFL of any great ablility. He may well be the Packers #3 WR this year. That will get him, max, 40 recpts. More likely 35. Which will place him 5th in rcpts for the team, tied with 3 other players (Nelson, Jackson and perhaps D Lee).

2. Last year Jones had as many recpts as Donald Lee. Donald Lee people, a TE who couldnt even hold on to his starting position last year, and there is some discussion of him being cut this year (I dont think that will happen, he is the only TE that can block worth a tinkers damm).

3. Rodgers is what the packers offense revolves around, not JFin, not Jennings, not anyone. And Rogers will throw to anyone who is open. That spreads out all those 400 rcpts to about 15 players.

4. Drivers knees are fine. He looks good in practice, he looks good in games. Simply because a guy gets his knees scoped doesnt mean his knees are "bad" The Packers just gave him more money and extended his contract. We should all wish for bad "knees".

Even if Jones becomes a starter AND Driver retires, 60 rcpts is a very high number. WR 2 material in ff at best.

I agree with most of this. Even if Driver or Jennings gets hurt and misses significant time, I think both Nelson and Jones will fill the void. That would probably put them in WR2/WR3 for fantasy purposes. As of now, I think they are WR5 material.

 

[sho nuff]

And at this point, Dynasty value is hard to peg with him.

His contract status will play into this. Does GB resign him if Driver is still going well and Nelson and Jones stay even? Or do they keep Nelson as he is adding some ability in the return game, and look elsewhere at WR?

Right now, I think they would resign him unless he thought he was worth way more than he is...at this point, he should be quite cheap.

 

[r3t2]

jones will be on every single one of my teams this year, dynasty and redraft. he came into the league and produced immediately, and the only reason he isnt a top 20 WR is the talent in front of him. love the guy.

 

[EBF]

Bill Parcells has a saying, "If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks." The point is that if there's a competition between two players and neither has distinguished himself, then neither is worth a damn.

I'm starting to think that this might apply to the GB WR situation behind Jennings and Driver. It's been a few years and neither Nelson nor Jones has stepped up and definitively shown that he can be the guy whenever Driver finally moves on. Instead of debating which one of them is the answer, maybe we should start debating whether either of them is the answer, because I'm starting to think that Green Bay's future WR2 isn't on their roster yet.

Jones and Nelson look like solid players who belong on an NFL roster. Jones has some RAC/possession qualities that remind me of Jerricho Cotchery or a poor man's Anquan Boldin. Nelson seems like he could eventually become a reliable complementary target in the mold of Kevin Walter. Neither has really taken the bull by the horns and flashed special talent though.

 

[BeTheMatch]

If I can get a piece of the GB passing offense - any piece - I'm hanging on like grim death. Don't let go. There's too much upside. And I personally like Jones a lot better than Nelson, although I don't mind Nelson either.

 

[Crippler]

Bill Parcells has a saying, "If you have two quarterbacks, you have no quarterbacks." The point is that if there's a competition between two players and neither has distinguished himself, then neither is worth a damn. I'm starting to think that this might apply to the GB WR situation behind Jennings and Driver. It's been a few years and neither Nelson nor Jones has stepped up and definitively shown that he can be the guy whenever Driver finally moves on. Instead of debating which one of them is the answer, maybe we should start debating whether either of them is the answer, because I'm starting to think that Green Bay's future WR2 isn't on their roster yet. Jones and Nelson look like solid players who belong on an NFL roster. Jones has some RAC/possession qualities that remind me of Jerricho Cotchery or a poor man's Anquan Boldin. Nelson seems like he could eventually become a reliable complementary target in the mold of Kevin Walter. Neither has really taken the bull by the horns and flashed special talent though.

Does this not kind of apply to Aaron Rodgers who was behind a great talent for years and everyone wrote him off while he learned the ropes. I think this has happened to Jones also. I like his prognosis for the future. If with GB, they are signing him because Driver is done and if not he will be a FA somewhere else and there is some plum places to still go and produce.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

James Jones reminds me of Bryant Johnson. Decent #3 that can look serviceable with a great QB.

Everyone is saying Driver's 35, Driver's 35. Jones's contract will be up himself this offseason. Someone may overpay for his 'upside' and GB (a team with 2 very good options -- and more worthy of paydays -- in Finley/Jennings) may just decline paying much for him.

Never been overly impressed with Jones & his shaky hands. He's had a couple moments, but nothing that screams to me a real difference maker as a starting WR.

So ask yourself this: Are you more impressed with Jones the talent or that he's currently in position to play with Rodgers?

Wouldn't be real surprised if Driver last LONGER than Jones with the Packers...

 

[nlgb1]

i think the reason this guy has dynasty value is cus hes semi-young, plays with rodgers, and people still think driver is finished

driver just signed a 3 year extension and looks like he could even play 4 more years. jones i guess could play wr2, but by no means does he have the talent to step in to that spot and be a reliable fantasy player.

to me hes a bulkier jason avant. no great tools, but a reliable 3rd guy. nothing to get too excited about

 

[⚡DEADHEAD⚡]

Watching tonight's game vs. Minnesota, I think we're finally seeing the phasing out of Driver and increased reliance on Jones and Nelson, in that order. The writing's been on the wall for a few weeks if you watch GB closely. Now I think it's time to make a play for Jones in dynasty leagues. I think, and I could very well be wrong, that he's the one that comes out on top.

 

[Kitrick Taylor]

Watching tonight's game vs. Minnesota, I think we're finally seeing the phasing out of Driver and increased reliance on Jones and Nelson, in that order. The writing's been on the wall for a few weeks if you watch GB closely. Now I think it's time to make a play for Jones in dynasty leagues. I think, and I could very well be wrong, that he's the one that comes out on top.

Drivers' got a quad injury. Jones hasn't over taken him. Having said that, it was by far Jones' best game of the season.

 

[az_prof]

Watching tonight's game vs. Minnesota, I think we're finally seeing the phasing out of Driver and increased reliance on Jones and Nelson, in that order. The writing's been on the wall for a few weeks if you watch GB closely. Now I think it's time to make a play for Jones in dynasty leagues. I think, and I could very well be wrong, that he's the one that comes out on top.

I'll bet you a dozen cheeseheads that they draft a new WR next season. I don't see either of these guys as the long term solution.