James Jones not tendered? (1 Viewer)

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[Eastwood]

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Superbowl and playoff drops likely cost him millions.

 

[ookook]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure.

I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while.

I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

 

[BuckeyeArt]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

I think Jones has a much higher opinion of his game than actually translates on the field. It wasn't just the playoffs...he just seems to drop the ball at the worst possible time. I agree that Nelson isn't the perfect replacement for Driver but he is a great #3. If DD can make it thru this year and we can find a guy to groom for the following year that would be ideal. Who knows maybe Nelson steps up...his confidence has to be at an all time high. With Finley coming back there won't be as many balls for the WR's anyway. Saying all that if Jones wants to come back for a reasonable price I would also love to have him...he's another great #3.

 

[Dave Larkin]

I had the option to place a RFA tender on this guy in a league of mine but decided against it predicting this very outcome. I'm very glad I released him now. Unless he lands in a top pass offense, he will be no more than a WR3.

 

[sho nuff]

Will most of these tenders even matter?

If they agree to a new CBA...most of these tendered players won't be RFAs, but UFAs anyway.

Not sure on Jones if he would still fall into the RFA status though.

 

[Bri]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

I think Jones has a much higher opinion of his game than actually translates on the field. It wasn't just the playoffs...he just seems to drop the ball at the worst possible time. I agree that Nelson isn't the perfect replacement for Driver but he is a great #3. If DD can make it thru this year and we can find a guy to groom for the following year that would be ideal. Who knows maybe Nelson steps up...his confidence has to be at an all time high. With Finley coming back there won't be as many balls for the WR's anyway. Saying all that if Jones wants to come back for a reasonable price I would also love to have him...he's another great #3.

You're a Packer fan so I feel out of place saying as such, but I don't feel like they are concerned at all. I think Finley(in this context) is thought of as a fourth WR or 3rd WR here. If they had to (and they might not) they could put a typical TE in and line Finley out wide. What I'm getting at is, don't you think they will be OK if Driver leaves/retires?

 

[Bri]

Will most of these tenders even matter?If they agree to a new CBA...most of these tendered players won't be RFAs, but UFAs anyway.Not sure on Jones if he would still fall into the RFA status though.

Maybe maybe not. I know whatcha mean.I think, if anything, these tenders provide a definitive list of whom teams want and don't want to keep and maybe this would be helpful in CBA discussions.

 

[Bri]

Superbowl and playoff drops likely cost him millions.

There's at least two threads on this topic. As I said earlier, no it won't. I wish it would-it should- but this is the time of year NFL owners/GMs/scouts love to be teased.

 

[smackdaddies]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

I think Jones has a much higher opinion of his game than actually translates on the field. It wasn't just the playoffs...he just seems to drop the ball at the worst possible time. I agree that Nelson isn't the perfect replacement for Driver but he is a great #3. If DD can make it thru this year and we can find a guy to groom for the following year that would be ideal. Who knows maybe Nelson steps up...his confidence has to be at an all time high. With Finley coming back there won't be as many balls for the WR's anyway. Saying all that if Jones wants to come back for a reasonable price I would also love to have him...he's another great #3.

You're a Packer fan so I feel out of place saying as such, but I don't feel like they are concerned at all. I think Finley(in this context) is thought of as a fourth WR or 3rd WR here. If they had to (and they might not) they could put a typical TE in and line Finley out wide. What I'm getting at is, don't you think they will be OK if Driver leaves/retires?

Fin is the #1 reciever on the team - pre injury last season he had the most targets, by far. Not sure the Pack thinks they really need another WR. Swain was getting more reps as the season went on, and clearly in the SB it was Nelson who was the #2. So... JFin, Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Swain for next year.

 

[hauser42]

Fin is the #1 reciever on the team - pre injury last season he had the most targets, by far. Not sure the Pack thinks they really need another WR. Swain was getting more reps as the season went on, and clearly in the SB it was Nelson who was the #2. So... JFin, Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Swain for next year.

Finley and Jennings will be co #1s next time the Packers play. MM figured out while Finely was out that Jennings has to be targeted to make the offense work. With One side and the middle needing a lot of attention the WRs at spots 2 and 3 should be ready to put up numbers even if they are less talented. Nelson should fill in as #2 if needed with those two guys there.

Swain was only playing late in the season due to Driver being nicked up and he did due a ton with his chances. Packers were likely looking at a WR in the draft at somepoint to put in the mix and challenge Swain. Might be higher without Jones and Driver showing his age late in the year.

 

[sho nuff]

Fin is the #1 reciever on the team - pre injury last season he had the most targets, by far. Not sure the Pack thinks they really need another WR. Swain was getting more reps as the season went on, and clearly in the SB it was Nelson who was the #2. So... JFin, Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Swain for next year.

Finley and Jennings will be co #1s next time the Packers play. MM figured out while Finely was out that Jennings has to be targeted to make the offense work. With One side and the middle needing a lot of attention the WRs at spots 2 and 3 should be ready to put up numbers even if they are less talented. Nelson should fill in as #2 if needed with those two guys there.

Swain was only playing late in the season due to Driver being nicked up and he did due a ton with his chances. Packers were likely looking at a WR in the draft at somepoint to put in the mix and challenge Swain. Might be higher without Jones and Driver showing his age late in the year.

I agree with this...and preferably someone with return capabilities.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

I think Jones has a much higher opinion of his game than actually translates on the field. It wasn't just the playoffs...he just seems to drop the ball at the worst possible time. I agree that Nelson isn't the perfect replacement for Driver but he is a great #3. If DD can make it thru this year and we can find a guy to groom for the following year that would be ideal. Who knows maybe Nelson steps up...his confidence has to be at an all time high. With Finley coming back there won't be as many balls for the WR's anyway. Saying all that if Jones wants to come back for a reasonable price I would also love to have him...he's another great #3.

You're a Packer fan so I feel out of place saying as such, but I don't feel like they are concerned at all. I think Finley(in this context) is thought of as a fourth WR or 3rd WR here. If they had to (and they might not) they could put a typical TE in and line Finley out wide. What I'm getting at is, don't you think they will be OK if Driver leaves/retires?

Finley will be the #1 option when healthy...Rodgers brags on him all the time...every interview before last season he kept mentioning him...he almost looked for him too much at times...then the first interview I saw after the Super Bowl he is saying how they are going to be better because they have the best TE in the league back. So to answer your question...I think we will be OK if Driver retires...However, if Jones is gone too...now it's Jennings, Nelson, Swain and a couple unknowns along with Finley...but now the depth is completey gone...If Jennings or Finley go down they are really in trouble...I do trust Thompson to bring in more WR talent though as well and I think there is good talent in the draft this year and with this move I think TT is pretty confident he can replace Jones.

 

[moderated]

i think the packers draft a wr in round 1 or 2. they need depth at wr more then any other position as the passing game is the bread and butter of their success.

Driver is done and was a hinderance last season, he was awful. Jordy is ok but better as a #3.

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

i think the packers draft a wr in round 1 or 2. they need depth at wr more then any other position as the passing game is the bread and butter of their success.Driver is done and was a hinderance last season, he was awful. Jordy is ok but better as a #3.

Very likely D Line and WR for the first two rounds...or O Line...but we all know TT will go for the guy at the top of his board regardless of position...the draft depth at those positions seems to set up well for the Pack...or so I have read...my knowledge of the draft is not what others is on this board.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

I really doubt the Packers would draft a WR at #32, if only because they are so good at finding guys for their system in the 2nd/3rd. A trade down is possible (like when they took Nelson) and I don't know who fits their profile of size/route running/hands among the mid-round prospects. Recall that Nelson, Jones and even Jennings got picked higher than expected. Maybe Quarless will get onto the field more too.

I could see Washington blowing some coin on JaJones. Armstrong is currently their WR1.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason.

Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.

Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

 

[Bri]

We shall see how this plays out. Does it mean he will not be a Packer again? Not sure. I know that a lot of people watch the playoffs and that negative events are salient, but this had been building for a while. I like Jones. I want him to be a Packer. I just don't want to pay a lot for that muffler and if somebody else does, I am good with that.

I think it means he won't be a Packer. They could have used a cheap tender and probably have kept him. The real question is does this mean the Packers will be drafting a WR fairly high in the draft? I don't see Nelson as the eventual replacement fro Driver.

I think Jones has a much higher opinion of his game than actually translates on the field. It wasn't just the playoffs...he just seems to drop the ball at the worst possible time. I agree that Nelson isn't the perfect replacement for Driver but he is a great #3. If DD can make it thru this year and we can find a guy to groom for the following year that would be ideal. Who knows maybe Nelson steps up...his confidence has to be at an all time high. With Finley coming back there won't be as many balls for the WR's anyway. Saying all that if Jones wants to come back for a reasonable price I would also love to have him...he's another great #3.

You're a Packer fan so I feel out of place saying as such, but I don't feel like they are concerned at all. I think Finley(in this context) is thought of as a fourth WR or 3rd WR here. If they had to (and they might not) they could put a typical TE in and line Finley out wide. What I'm getting at is, don't you think they will be OK if Driver leaves/retires?

Fin is the #1 reciever on the team - pre injury last season he had the most targets, by far. Not sure the Pack thinks they really need another WR. Swain was getting more reps as the season went on, and clearly in the SB it was Nelson who was the #2. So... JFin, Jennings, Nelson, Driver, Swain for next year.

I had asked about Driver leaving...nonetheless-Yeah and I think that's enough. The Pack fans were maybe a bit spoiled with their WR corps and TE this year. Generally teams don't keep more than four and if there's two decent TEs they can only activate three for a game even. Maybe it's the nature of FF and all blinding folks some, but there's only so many spots and right there you named four WRs. They could use/free up a spot if a WR is the KR or ST ace and stuff like that, but that's "pushing it" to get to five WRs. Chances are if they draft a guy, that WR is battling Swain for one spot.Titans loved Marc Mariani and just couldn't cut him (in theory they should have) and he went on to be the pro bowl KR and be used on more offensive plays in the pro bowl than in the whole season. They have Vincent Fuller who can play some S and be the nickelback. Brad Smith fills some roles for the Jets. They'd have to get creative to be comfy with 5 WRs again. The Titans had one FB and....just two RBs. Just two would have "killed" the Pack. As a general rule, it's four WRs and then "pushing it."The Pack should spend their picks on quality depth regardless of position. They don't have a need they can't overcome and I believe that's how teams win again-depth. They'll get hit with injuries or some struggle like every Supe champ before them and they just gotta be as prepared as possible.

 

[hauser42]

I really doubt the Packers would draft a WR at #32, if only because they are so good at finding guys for their system in the 2nd/3rd. A trade down is possible (like when they took Nelson) and I don't know who fits their profile of size/route running/hands among the mid-round prospects. Recall that Nelson, Jones and even Jennings got picked higher than expected. Maybe Quarless will get onto the field more too.I could see Washington blowing some coin on JaJones. Armstrong is currently their WR1.

You are right that those 3 WRs were picked early than expected. But two of the three were involved in TT trading draft picks to move into that spot each year. Nelson was a move down and I am not sure which way the Jennings picked was acquired. If a WR is there at 32 that fits TT could easily take him with the depth being in flux and MM liking to spread the field with WRs.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Would you feel the same if NE or Indy signs him?

 

[Fantasy Strategist]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Would you feel the same if NE or Indy signs him?

Indy already has their version...Garcon...he makes unbelievable catches but also drops far too many easy ones...reminds me of Jones in that respect anyway...both have a ton of potential too.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Would you feel the same if NE or Indy signs him?

No, because they won't. (Indy already has a superior version in Garcon. And Tate is no worse of an option for New England) Some lower organization will overpay him to start (IMO). That's the difference between the winning/losing organization. The winning ones draft guys like Jones in the middle rounds of draft. The losing ones overpay guys like Jones. Pool's long overrated the ability of James Jones. And like the aforementioned Bryant Johnson, Jones's inconsistency will be exposed and he'll soon be back to a reserve WR.

 

[vandyt]

I understand why the Packers didnt retain him (Finley coming back, Jennings/Nelson can start, Driver still a good #3, Swain decent #4)...

That said, Jones is one of the best 64 WRs in the league and will certainly have a starting job elsewhere next year. He'd look great in ATL opposite Roddy or in SD if they lose Floyd to FA.

Despite Jones' drops, hes still an effective playmaker who can run after the catch and has deep speed. That'll get him paid on the FA market. ProFootballFocus graded him out pretty highly for this past season.

 

[Balco]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Jones is not anything like Bryant Johnson. He runs great routes, is great after the catch, and he has no problem going over the middle. The only thing holding Jones back from being an elite receiver, and it is a pretty big thing, is drops. And he loves to drop passes at the most inopportune times (usually when he is wide open and would score easily).For that reason, I don't want the Packers to spend the money he is likely to command.I think he is a perfect fit for Cleveland, as they are installing a west coast offense.

 

[ookook]

I thought of Cleveland right away as well.

 

[zamboni]

Finley will be the #1 option when healthy...Rodgers brags on him all the time...every interview before last season he kept mentioning him...

I would agree that a healthy Finley will probably be the #1 option. As for Jones, if I recall correctly, Rodgers mentioned early this year that he thinks that Jones has the most talent among all the Packers WRs. The big drops stand out - and no doubt they are clearly a problem for potential suitors - but Jones does have serious skills and if he can go to another decent system and learn to cut down on the concentration lapses, he could be successful elsewhere.

 

[hauser42]

I understand why the Packers didnt retain him (Finley coming back, Jennings/Nelson can start, Driver still a good #3, Swain decent #4)...That said, Jones is one of the best 64 WRs in the league and will certainly have a starting job elsewhere next year. He'd look great in ATL opposite Roddy or in SD if they lose Floyd to FA.Despite Jones' drops, hes still an effective playmaker who can run after the catch and has deep speed. That'll get him paid on the FA market. ProFootballFocus graded him out pretty highly for this past season.

As much as the Packers like to spread teams out and go 4 wide they will need a better option than Swain at this time. Yes I understand Finley will be split wide also, but Driver is close to the end. Swain needs to step up if he is going to be a replacement of Jones.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

 

[Hoss_Cartwright]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

 

[moderated]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

agree, Swain hasn't really shown anything and with Driver basically done if Jennings got hurt having a WR core of Jordy/Driver/Swain would be one of the worst trios in the NFL. Even with Jennings they don't really have a solid #2 as Jordy is better as a #3, Driver sucks, and Swain has done nothing to make anyone think he can step into a large role.The Packers are a passing team and have to get another top notch talent at WR to protect themselves against that scenario playing out.

 

[sho nuff]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

I wouldn't say solid yet...just an ok guy at this point.But if Jones does go elsewhere, I hope they do shore this up.Even if Jones stays, I hope they draft a guy to compete with Swain and as I said earlier, hopefully someone with some return abilities.

 

[sho nuff]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

agree, Swain hasn't really shown anything and with Driver basically done if Jennings got hurt having a WR core of Jordy/Driver/Swain would be one of the worst trios in the NFL. Even with Jennings they don't really have a solid #2 as Jordy is better as a #3, Driver sucks, and Swain has done nothing to make anyone think he can step into a large role.The Packers are a passing team and have to get another top notch talent at WR to protect themselves against that scenario playing out.

Driver just sucks now? Umm...can't say I agree there.

 

[moderated]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

agree, Swain hasn't really shown anything and with Driver basically done if Jennings got hurt having a WR core of Jordy/Driver/Swain would be one of the worst trios in the NFL. Even with Jennings they don't really have a solid #2 as Jordy is better as a #3, Driver sucks, and Swain has done nothing to make anyone think he can step into a large role.The Packers are a passing team and have to get another top notch talent at WR to protect themselves against that scenario playing out.

Driver just sucks now? Umm...can't say I agree there.

he was awful this past year. do you really think his 500 receiving yards when he was on the field all the time were good?He has no speed left and can't separate.

 

[sho nuff]

Multiple folks have suggested that Swain is a solid #4 WR. Just curious what gives anyone that impression. While he is a good special teams player, Swain hasn't flashed any ability as a WR.

agree, Swain hasn't really shown anything and with Driver basically done if Jennings got hurt having a WR core of Jordy/Driver/Swain would be one of the worst trios in the NFL. Even with Jennings they don't really have a solid #2 as Jordy is better as a #3, Driver sucks, and Swain has done nothing to make anyone think he can step into a large role.The Packers are a passing team and have to get another top notch talent at WR to protect themselves against that scenario playing out.

Driver just sucks now? Umm...can't say I agree there.

he was awful this past year. do you really think his 500 receiving yards when he was on the field all the time were good?He has no speed left and can't separate.

I think he was dinged up a bit this year but was far from awful.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKx9NDxbiSsDoesn't look like a guy who just sucks.While I think he may only have one year left...I wouldn't say he sucks.

 

[sho nuff]

Was he tendered?

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Jones is not anything like Bryant Johnson. He runs great routes, is great after the catch, and he has no problem going over the middle. The only thing holding Jones back from being an elite receiver, and it is a pretty big thing, is drops. And he loves to drop passes at the most inopportune times (usually when he is wide open and would score easily).For that reason, I don't want the Packers to spend the money he is likely to command.I think he is a perfect fit for Cleveland, as they are installing a west coast offense.

Yes, he is a perfect fit for a lowly franchise like Cleveland. After 2011 season, the pound will be crying for a return of Braylon Edwards after enduring James Jones as a starter. Jones is a reserve quality WR. He's no better than Massaquoi. Catching the football is pretty important for a WR. Using the word elite and James Jones is laughable.

 

[identikit]

Not so fast:

(TheHuddle) Green Bay Packers WR James Jones said Sunday, March 6, that he received a restricted free agent tender, reports Jason Wilde, of ESPNMilwaukee.com. It was reported by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Jones was not tendered.

Analysis: Nothing against the Journal Sentinel, but we'll go with Jones on this one. The Packers really have nothing to lose tendering Jones; the tender may not even be valid under the terms of the new CBA (assuming there is a new CBA), and the Packers don't have to match any offer Jones might receive. While it appears the Packers won't overpay to bring Jones back, they wouldn't mind getting at least a little something in return should he depart.

 

[munchkin]

My pick for FA WR bust of the offseason. Always have, always will see him as another Bryant Johnson. Good on occassion at WR3, but stretched as anything more than that. Not surprising they didn't tender him (believe he's a 4th year guy that would have been unrestricted anyway, right?). He's no better than the 5th best receiving option on the Pack.Not a big loss at all for the Pack. Certainly not big enough to waste the 1st rounder on a WR.

Jones is not anything like Bryant Johnson. He runs great routes, is great after the catch, and he has no problem going over the middle. The only thing holding Jones back from being an elite receiver, and it is a pretty big thing, is drops. And he loves to drop passes at the most inopportune times (usually when he is wide open and would score easily).For that reason, I don't want the Packers to spend the money he is likely to command.I think he is a perfect fit for Cleveland, as they are installing a west coast offense.

Yes, he is a perfect fit for a lowly franchise like Cleveland. After 2011 season, the pound will be crying for a return of Braylon Edwards after enduring James Jones as a starter. Jones is a reserve quality WR. He's no better than Massaquoi. Catching the football is pretty important for a WR. Using the word elite and James Jones is laughable.

You certainly are within your rights to pick apart a post but at least be honest. The cat didn't say Jones was elite. He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much. Edwards was an ELITE player in Cleveland for a season and was drafted as such coming out of college. Jones has great physical skills but obviously needs to hold on to the ball. The guys gets open; he doesn't lack the physical skills he needs to be much more mentally consistent.

 

[Sudsy]

Jones, and whatever team gets him, are likely to find out that getting open against another teams 1st or 2nd CB is much different than going against their 4th CB or their 2nd safety, as has been the case during his career. Jones is liable to find that balls thrown by Tebow, Smith, McNaab, Joe Web, Derrick Anderson, or Jimmy Clausen find him far less often and are not as catchable as he is use to.

If he could not excel in Green Bay where everything was set for success, he likely will not do so elsewhere.

 

[identikit]

Not so fast:

(TheHuddle) Green Bay Packers WR James Jones said Sunday, March 6, that he received a restricted free agent tender, reports Jason Wilde, of ESPNMilwaukee.com. It was reported by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that Jones was not tendered.

Analysis: Nothing against the Journal Sentinel, but we'll go with Jones on this one. The Packers really have nothing to lose tendering Jones; the tender may not even be valid under the terms of the new CBA (assuming there is a new CBA), and the Packers don't have to match any offer Jones might receive. While it appears the Packers won't overpay to bring Jones back, they wouldn't mind getting at least a little something in return should he depart.

Maybe the thread title should be updated.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much.

Jones will never ever be elite. How about he shows he's a freaking starter first, eh?Playing the IF game

 

[hauser42]

He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much.

Jones will never ever be elite. How about he shows he's a freaking starter first, eh?Playing the IF game

Right now he is behind some very talented starters, so complaining about him not being a starter is BS.

 

[Frank Black]

The Panthers could use him.

 

[mlball77]

The Panthers could use him.

So could the Bears... just don't want them to vastly overpay.

 

[Craig_MiamiFL]

He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much.

Jones will never ever be elite. How about he shows he's a freaking starter first, eh?Playing the IF game

Right now he is behind some very talented starters, so complaining about him not being a starter is BS.

And he had a chance while Driver was dinged most of the year....and didn't make the most of it, getting bypassed in the process as well.Someone will pay him to be their #2 WR. I think he's a sell high when that happens. I don't think he's an NFL starting WR My bet is he signs with a lowly franchise for too much $$ and falls flat on his face as a starting WR & no longer with that franchise w/in 2 years.

 

[Sabertooth]

He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much.

Jones will never ever be elite. How about he shows he's a freaking starter first, eh?Playing the IF game

Right now he is behind some very talented starters, so complaining about him not being a starter is BS.

And he had a chance while Driver was dinged most of the year....and didn't make the most of it, getting bypassed in the process as well.Someone will pay him to be their #2 WR. I think he's a sell high when that happens. I don't think he's an NFL starting WR My bet is he signs with a lowly franchise for too much $$ and falls flat on his face as a starting WR & no longer with that franchise w/in 2 years.

I could see that happening. He had his chance with Driver being hurt all of last season and part of this season and really didn't step up in any noticeable way. His concentration lapses a lot. He's got good RAC skills.

 

[AngryPatriot]

I see a potential mega-sleeper here.... If 3 or 4 key catches are made this guy has a whole different reputation (on the field at least). Yes, he had serious lapses but he also looked very explosive

and dynamic. He will need the right situation as a #2 and he could put up #1 like #'s.

 

[Two Deep]

He stated Jones had qualities that could make him elite IF he held on to the ball. Now of course that's a big IF and he stated as much.

Jones will never ever be elite. How about he shows he's a freaking starter first, eh?Playing the IF game

Right now he is behind some very talented starters, so complaining about him not being a starter is BS.

And he had a chance while Driver was dinged most of the year....and didn't make the most of it, getting bypassed in the process as well.Someone will pay him to be their #2 WR. I think he's a sell high when that happens. I don't think he's an NFL starting WR My bet is he signs with a lowly franchise for too much $$ and falls flat on his face as a starting WR & no longer with that franchise w/in 2 years.

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