lakermadness07
Footballguy
I am so confused with Driver's new contract and every day there is new info on someone emerging as the #3 receiver. Does anyone know who has advantage?
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James Jones vs Jordy nelson (1 Viewer)
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karmarooster
Footballguy
Finley.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Finley is the #1. The hype on him is legit.
nlgb1
Footballguy
contrary to popular belief jones and nelson arent the answer at wr2 in the future for the packers. both are solid wr3/4s but arent starting caliber players. so when you hear anything about james jones or jordy nelson being "dynasty sleepers" just disregard it, because once driver finally retires 3 years from now, the packers will be looking to the draft to fill wr2 not nelson or jones.
I think he will. I've been trading for him in dynasty leagues. Really like his talent; just a matter of when Driver is phased out IMO.
I hope so,he shows flashes of what he can do but i will still hold onto him for now.
zadok
Footballguy
Sure...he'll be starting until he's 38 years old...Jerry Rice could barely do that.
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From Rotoworld
Coach Mike McCarthy said Monday that James Jones has the "slight edge" over Jordy Nelson to be the Packers' No. 3 receiver.
McCarthy, though, continued to praise Nelson's performances in practice and Saturday's scrimmage: "Jordy's having his best camp. He's stronger and more mature. ... I wouldn't have a problem starting a game with him." Jones holds a talent edge but has been inconsistent in camp, while Nelson's maintained his trademark efficiency. This battle will go down to the wire.
Coach Mike McCarthy said Monday that James Jones has the "slight edge" over Jordy Nelson to be the Packers' No. 3 receiver.
McCarthy, though, continued to praise Nelson's performances in practice and Saturday's scrimmage: "Jordy's having his best camp. He's stronger and more mature. ... I wouldn't have a problem starting a game with him." Jones holds a talent edge but has been inconsistent in camp, while Nelson's maintained his trademark efficiency. This battle will go down to the wire.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I would put James Jones ahead of Jordy Nelson simply because he was working as the starter alongside Jennings on family night while Donald Driver was out. With that being said I would not be too quick to dismiss Donald Driver and think either Jones or Nelson have huge upside in the next two or three years. I think many people do not realize how popular and well thought of Driver is in the community. He has a ton of fan support so as long as his skills can hold together he will remain a large factor. He just signed that extension for 3 more years. Certainly when a WR gets to be Driver's age the wheels can fall off quickly but you could end up holding Jones or Nelson for two or three more years before they might actually get a chance to start.
I think for dynasty that both of these guys are overvalued and are not good buys.
I think for dynasty that both of these guys are overvalued and are not good buys.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Link?
sho nuff
Footballguy
I think they will look to fill a WR position later...but I think both are very capable of being #2 WRs.They won't be the #2 option in the passing game though.Finley and Jennings will be 1 and 2 as long as they keep them and they stay healthy.
cr8f
Footballguy
I do too Jones out wide and Nelson in the slot. The #2 WR there the last few years (63 catches for 998 yards and 8 TDs average)has been pretty good but with Finley will drop a little.
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cr8f
Footballguy
It seems all opinion. In start 3 WR leagues they are as startable as Driver was last year.
Jeremy
Footballguy
Long term I think James Jones ends up somewhere else. He's stuck behind Driver and Jennings on the depth chart and is fighting for his life to hold onto the #3 spot vs Jordy Nelson (which, with Finley, makes him the 4th or 5th option). He's probably good enough to be a #2 WR on a team that doesn't have a lot of talent at the position. I have to think he'll want to go somewhere where he can see the field more often. Jordy Nelson looks like he could be perfect in the slot. When Driver finally slows down, I agree with the poster that his heir apparent isn't on the current roster.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
I think Driver slowed down last year.
MAC_32
Footballguy
McCarthy's talking both up - is it legit? a motivational tool? does he really favor one over the other and won't commit?
Regardless, I think Nelson's a better WR and a better fit for the offense and thus has a greater chance of being a future starter but Jones has much, much more upside so I'd gamble on him first. If Nelson pans out you might have a solid #3 but weak #2, if Jones fulfills his potential he could be huge. Go upside, just don't expect it in 2010.
Regardless, I think Nelson's a better WR and a better fit for the offense and thus has a greater chance of being a future starter but Jones has much, much more upside so I'd gamble on him first. If Nelson pans out you might have a solid #3 but weak #2, if Jones fulfills his potential he could be huge. Go upside, just don't expect it in 2010.
Clifford
Footballguy
Latest word out of camp is that Nelson is pushing for the job but Jones still has a slight edge according to McCarthy. Read all about in preseason observations thread. I have Jones in a dynasty (burned a 4th round pick on him) and I'm going to wait it out, but I could easily see myself dropping him for a kicker. Going to see what comes of camp but the Pack locking up Driver for the next 2 years is a pretty bad sign about what they think of both their potential replacements.
Then again it could have just been a feelgood roster move for them, which makes sense considering the fans own the team, but it still means Driver will be there in 2011 and 2012. I'm not going to hold either of those guys for that long. There are better developmental projects on most WWs that at least have the possibility of earlier ROI.
Then again it could have just been a feelgood roster move for them, which makes sense considering the fans own the team, but it still means Driver will be there in 2011 and 2012. I'm not going to hold either of those guys for that long. There are better developmental projects on most WWs that at least have the possibility of earlier ROI.
Jeremy
Footballguy
A lot of people are wondering what McCarthy is seeing that's we're not. Nelson has way outperformed James Jones in practices. Certainly he has way better hands.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Nelson was much better, or at least much more written-about, in the early going. Now Jones is doing some good things as well.
But answer quick: who scored more TDs last year, Jennings or Jones?
Point being it's hard enough to single out a guy on the team who will hit 80 catches this year, let alone which of the backups might get 40. I don't either is worth drafting unless you have deep benches. They'll be worth looking at as bye week filler (if someone else hasn't claimed them... which will probably happen as soon as either scores, if not during the draft) but there are tons of other guys just as good for fantasy purposes.
But answer quick: who scored more TDs last year, Jennings or Jones?
Point being it's hard enough to single out a guy on the team who will hit 80 catches this year, let alone which of the backups might get 40. I don't either is worth drafting unless you have deep benches. They'll be worth looking at as bye week filler (if someone else hasn't claimed them... which will probably happen as soon as either scores, if not during the draft) but there are tons of other guys just as good for fantasy purposes.
cr8f
Footballguy
He was? Not in Green Bay... when he was a rookie Jones was making plays all over the field. The buzz was strong his rookie year. If Driver goes down(what this thread is about after all) he would be the starter right now. Nelson is backing up Jennings on the first depth chart.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Wasn't that deal just a matter of making his contract more cap friendly? IIRC, he had a huge number originally for either this year or next year that had some suggesting he could be cap casualty unless the deal was redone.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
I wouldn't say it's quite that simple, as both the backups will still be on the field with the potential to score. And either could have 4 or 5 TDs again.
nlgb1
Footballguy
if one of the two were to succeed driver, id much rather see nelson out wide. nelson is a much more dangerous deep threat than jones, neither is really a slot guy. most of the catches jones makes are 15 yards and in. ive seen nelson run some great deep routes, hes also got good yac ability (returns kicks on occasion). id like to see green bay draft a receiver in the near future, but if it comes down to it, id take nelson out wide at wr2, jones backing up nelson and coming in on 4/5 wide, and another receiver coming in for slot duties.
smackdaddies
Footballguy
Neither are worth a bucket of warm spit this year outside of injuries. Jennings/Finley/Driver/Grant/Jackson/Lee then jones/nelson
Lee has looked good in camp - he is not going quietly into the night, especially since JFin still cant/wont pass block. JFin will get 70 plus recpts, but I could see Lee getting 25. Which is about as many as jones or nelson will get
Lee has looked good in camp - he is not going quietly into the night, especially since JFin still cant/wont pass block. JFin will get 70 plus recpts, but I could see Lee getting 25. Which is about as many as jones or nelson will get
countingcrow
Footballguy
Is this situation getting any clearer?
Jones filled in for Jennings last night and had 5 catches for 30 yards and a TD.
Will Jones, if named the third receiver, fill in for both Driver and Jennings if an injury occurs to either guy or is Nelson the backup for Driver's spot?
Nelson returned a few kickoffs last night as well so I wonder if that has any bearing on the competition for the third receiver spot.
I'm just wondering which of these two guys has the most value if either Jennings or Driver get hurt. I can't imagine that the replacement for either player wouldn't be starting material in a fantasy lineup with Rodgers at the helm.
Jones filled in for Jennings last night and had 5 catches for 30 yards and a TD.
Will Jones, if named the third receiver, fill in for both Driver and Jennings if an injury occurs to either guy or is Nelson the backup for Driver's spot?
Nelson returned a few kickoffs last night as well so I wonder if that has any bearing on the competition for the third receiver spot.
I'm just wondering which of these two guys has the most value if either Jennings or Driver get hurt. I can't imagine that the replacement for either player wouldn't be starting material in a fantasy lineup with Rodgers at the helm.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Nelson on returns will not figure into the #3 guy.Looked like it was Jones auditioning to be kept the #3 guy and Id say he did well. Caught everything thrown at him...made some nice moves. Was targeted on the deep ball that drew the PI call on the first drive and had the DB beat. Nice night for him.But he does not have much value unless DD or Jennings get hurt.
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countingcrow
Footballguy
Thanks for the reply.
I'm viewing the GB third receiver as a handcuff.
While I don't own Driver or Jennings, you'd have to think that if an injury does occur Jones (if he keeps the job) would have quite a bit of value.
I'm willing to roster Jones as a bench guy in the hopes that a spot opens up for him.
I'm viewing the GB third receiver as a handcuff.
While I don't own Driver or Jennings, you'd have to think that if an injury does occur Jones (if he keeps the job) would have quite a bit of value.
I'm willing to roster Jones as a bench guy in the hopes that a spot opens up for him.
