James Starks NOT removed from PUP List yet! (1 Viewer)

[gradin123]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/105315683.html

At bottom of story it mentions Starks was not removed from PUP on Tuesday while Harris and Bigby were.

So much for that hype. That means he can't even practice with the club yet. They still have 3 weeks to remove him if they choose but considering he is no longer injured it doesn't bode well for his chances.

 

[Drink G2]

Its been stated he will be activate in time for practice Wednesday.

 

[ang12]

MM said he was going to practice Wednesday so we'll see tomorrow. Either way, he said that it's unrealistic to expect Starks to contribute right away, unlike Bigby or Harris.

 

[tdhartis]

It was my understanding that even if he was not activated he could still practice with the team for up to 3 weeks at which point he would either have to be activated or sit out the rest of the season. Is that not correct?

 

[gradin123]

It was my understanding that even if he was not activated he could still practice with the team for up to 3 weeks at which point he would either have to be activated or sit out the rest of the season. Is that not correct?

After week 6 the the team has 3 weeks to activate a player from PUP and another 3 weeks after he is activated from PUP to either move him to the active roster,place him on IR or release him.He was not activated from PUP today while their other 2 PUP players Bigby and Harris were. The fact he was not activated means he can't even practice yet. I guess there is a chance they will activate him from PUP tomorrow morning but why activate the other 2 today and not him? They don't have to cut anyone to activate him from PUP all it does is allow him to practice.We'll know for sure tomorrow morning but the Starks hype train may need to go back into the station for now.

 

[Joe Summer]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

 

[gradin123]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

You are wrong. A player has to be removed from PUP first before he is allowed to practice. Once removed from PUP the 3 week window to activate him to the roster begins. But a player can not even practice unless he is removed from PUP.The Packers said on monday that all 3 players would be removed from the PUP List but for some reason only Bigby and Harris were removed from PUP today. As it stands right now Starks is the only player still on the Packers PUP list. Maybe they will remove him from the PUP list tomorrow morning but it seems weird they would remove the other 2 today and not him.

 

[Diamond]

Nobody's been activated. Bigby and Harris were designated as able to practice, Starks was not. At least, not yet.Here's the relevant quote:

The Packers officially designated Harris and safety Atari Bigby as returned to practice from the physically unable to perform list. Running back James Starks remained on the PUP list Tuesday.Thus, Harris and Bigby will have 21 days to be activated, cut or placed on injured reserve. The Packers have until Nov. 9 to designate Starks for practice.

GB most certainly does have to cut someone whenever they are activated unless they have open roster spots already.edit: To me, activated = added to active roster, sorry, your use of that word threw me.

 

[gradin123]

Nobody's been activated. Bigby and Harris were designated as able to practice, Starks was not. At least, not yet.

Here's the relevant quote:

The Packers officially designated Harris and safety Atari Bigby as returned to practice from the physically unable to perform list. Running back James Starks remained on the PUP list Tuesday.

Thus, Harris and Bigby will have 21 days to be activated, cut or placed on injured reserve. The Packers have until Nov. 9 to designate Starks for practice.

GB most certainly does have to cut someone whenever they are activated unless they have open roster spots already.

I know no one was activated to the roster today but Harris and Bigby were removed from PUP which means they are able to practice. Starks hasn't even been removed from PUP yet and until he is he can't practice. I said that no one has to be cut in order to be activated from PUP. The packers have three weeks to remove Starks from the PUP list.

 

[yellowdog]

Did this need a new thread? I take it the OP missed out on the lottery ticket in his league?

 

[Tanner9919]

Starks has turned into the next K. Huggins, i.e., overrated fluff piece..assuming the best, that he will beat out B. Jackson to win the starting RB gig for the Packers, just how well do you expect him to do when the Packers barely run the ball in the first place?? I'm guessing the absolute best case scenario, he wins the job and gets 12 carries/gm, max..so, let's say 60 rush yards/gm, if that..

McCarthy is more intent on fancy,cutesy dink-n-dunk play calling instead of allowing his running game to set up the passing game.. I thought Jackson would have a good game last week,but he barely touched the ball

Starks can be the next Barry Sanders , but with McCarthy calling plays your best bet is to use the GB running back(s) sparingly, such as weeks 12-14, with games against Atl, SF, Detroit..other than that, I think you can find better production by looking elsewhere..

 

[Sammy Traveller]

Did this need a new thread? I take it the OP missed out on the lottery ticket in his league?

It's a different topic.

 

[yellowdog]

Did this need a new thread? I take it the OP missed out on the lottery ticket in his league?

It's a different topic.

Oh, OK. Carry on, then.

 

[damageinc]

James Starks - RB - Packers

The Packers officially designated CB Al Harris (knee) and SS Atari Bigby (ankle) as returned to practice from the PUP list, but they did not designate RB James Starks (hamstring).

Harris and Bigby will practice Wednesday, but Starks will not. The rookie has a chance to make some noise eventually, but it appears he's not quite ready yet and will not be playing in Week 7.

Oct. 20 - 9:37 a.m. ET

 

[3nOut]

So if he is removed from the PUP but is not active or on IR, what is his official status?

 

[j0novision]

He is the American Samoa of the NFL.

 

[gradin123]

So if he is removed from the PUP but is not active or on IR, what is his official status?

It means he would be allowed to practice with the team for 3 weeks before the team made a decision.Because he hasn't been removed yet it means he can't even practice. In fact he is has never practiced in pads with the Packers yet. He is 100% healthy by all accounts so if they truly do not remove him from the PUP list yet it probably means he is heading to IR unless more injuries occur to the running backs.

 

[steelwind]

Very early Starks train and the Shark Pool probably should have at least waited a couple of practice weeks before hyping this up. This is quite different from the Torain train. With the Torain train he was already practicing and we know what Shannahan thoughts were. With Starks, all we know is that Coach McCarthy said himself that he hasn't seen him in pads yet. This alone should tell all of you to hold before picking him up.

 

[TommyGilmore]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

You are wrong. A player has to be removed from PUP first before he is allowed to practice. Once removed from PUP the 3 week window to activate him to the roster begins.

This doesn't sound right. Are you saying that the Packers could keep Starks on the PUP list until Week 10 and then get another 3 weeks before activating him? What about waiting until Week 14 before removing him from the PUP list?? That just seems like a sneaky way for teams to stash players.

 

[dagwood]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

You are wrong. A player has to be removed from PUP first before he is allowed to practice. Once removed from PUP the 3 week window to activate him to the roster begins.

This doesn't sound right. Are you saying that the Packers could keep Starks on the PUP list until Week 10 and then get another 3 weeks before activating him? What about waiting until Week 14 before removing him from the PUP list?? That just seems like a sneaky way for teams to stash players.

I think the Packers actually have three weeks to activate him from the PUP or he has to go on IR, but I believe they do have to activate him from the PUP before he can practice with the team.

 

[TommyGilmore]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

You are wrong. A player has to be removed from PUP first before he is allowed to practice. Once removed from PUP the 3 week window to activate him to the roster begins.

This doesn't sound right. Are you saying that the Packers could keep Starks on the PUP list until Week 10 and then get another 3 weeks before activating him? What about waiting until Week 14 before removing him from the PUP list?? That just seems like a sneaky way for teams to stash players.

I think the Packers actually have three weeks to activate him from the PUP or he has to go on IR, but I believe they do have to activate him from the PUP before he can practice with the team.

That sounds right to me, but gradin123 seems to be saying that the Packers could wait 2 more weeks before removing Starks from the PUP, then they would get another 3 weeks to evaluate him.

 

[dagwood]

Needless to say, its not a good sign for those hoping for a help in a redraft league.

 

[sho nuff]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/105362428.html

He was at practice.

 

[That Little Voice]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/105362428.html

He was at practice.

 

[TheArchitect]

All 3 players are eligible to practice through November 9, at which point the team must decide whether to cut them, add them to the active roster, or place them on IR. For roster purposes, it really doesn't matter if Starks is "activated" today, tomorrow, or November 8th. All that matters is that he's healthy on November 9th.

You are wrong. A player has to be removed from PUP first before he is allowed to practice. Once removed from PUP the 3 week window to activate him to the roster begins.

This doesn't sound right. Are you saying that the Packers could keep Starks on the PUP list until Week 10 and then get another 3 weeks before activating him? What about waiting until Week 14 before removing him from the PUP list?? That just seems like a sneaky way for teams to stash players.

I think the Packers actually have three weeks to activate him from the PUP or he has to go on IR, but I believe they do have to activate him from the PUP before he can practice with the team.

That sounds right to me, but gradin123 seems to be saying that the Packers could wait 2 more weeks before removing Starks from the PUP, then they would get another 3 weeks to evaluate him.

 

[Joe Summer]

 

[scott72]

Very early Starks train and the Shark Pool probably should have at least waited a couple of practice weeks before hyping this up. This is quite different from the Torain train. With the Torain train he was already practicing and we know what Shannahan thoughts were. With Starks, all we know is that Coach McCarthy said himself that he hasn't seen him in pads yet. This alone should tell all of you to hold before picking him up.

Some of us Packer fans tried to tell people this. The guy missed his entire senior season and hasn't played football in over a year and a half. To predict he's going to come off the PUP and immediately contribute in an NFL game is just silly. Other than maybe some kick returns I don't see him contributing much until next season.

 

[nickel&dime]

My league is already starting to laugh at me for picking him up. I'm so stubborn though...may keep him stashed for another couple weeks to see if he at least starts practicing like a normal member of the team. URGH!

 

[T J]

I picked him up only on the off chance it turns into something. I didn't want him to come out of nowhere, have a big game, then end up on someone else's squad.

I'm one of those that believes that the Pack didn't make a RB trade because they think Starks could be the guy. Maybe he will be, maybe he won't. I just wanted to be ahead of the curve in case he was. If it turns into nothing, ok, he'll be an obvious drop a bit later. I can wait it out a little longer. If I needed a spot today though, I'm dropping Steve Johnson (WR Bills) or Marion Barber before I drop Starks. I want to see what, if anything, come of it.

 

[JD8p]

I dumped him for Anthony Gonzalez.

It would be a major upset for him to turn into anything this year if we look at all the factors involved. I will let someone else use the roster spot...or just pick him up again later if I feel like it.