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Jared from Subway got what he deserved (1 Viewer)

I think all prisoners have the right to be safe in prison.  If we want to punish certain crimes with caning, or raping, then make it the law and be up front about it.

A big part of our criminal justice problem is in how we treat prisoners in general - if we can figure that out, we would be in a better place.

 
Just when I think I no longer have to deal with this fat turd, he keeps coming back from more. Now with professional atheletes of all people. :finger:

No one likes you, Jared. Please go off somewhere and get fat again and disappear. And take your stupid commercials and creepy smiles somewhere else. No one else is falling for the subway weight loss shtick anymore, but you're too stupid to realize it. You're a freak, guy. Please go back to Krystal's where you were at when you were fat. Before, you were just fat and ugly. Now, you're skinnier and just downright creep looking. GO AWAY!!!1111!!!!!1!!!!! TIA :towelwave:
Ay, looks like flap saw this one coming from a mile away.

 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/jared-fogle-lucky-alive-prison-beatdown-article-1.2567193?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

“Jared’s lucky he’s still alive. My uncle was in a position to kill him. No one was there,” Jimmy Jr. said after speaking to his uncle and reading the incident report. “He got him down, then walked away. He’s not a violent guy, he doesn’t have a violent history. He’s sending a message is what he’s doing. A guy walks in with all this money and celebrity and instead of flying under the radar, he’s going into the yard, walking around with big guys, saying no one can mess with me, flashing his money around and that's what (my uncle) is pissed off about.”

“He said these kids (the victims) got dads and uncles and they’d love to do what I just did,” Jimmy Sr. told The News. “‘I’m doing it for the families. I couldn’t help it.’”

The sandwich pitchman isn’t even the most famous man at Englewood. Disgraced former Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich is also serving out his term at the federal penitentiary, but he’s well-liked by the rest of the guys - and can apparently take a joke at his own expense.

“Steve was telling me, when (Blago) first got there, he was putting down a food tray, asking ‘Can I sit here?’ And one of the inmates says, ‘If you got $2 million, I’ll sell you this seat,’” Jimmy Sr. said of the disgraced pol, who was convicted of trying to sell President Obama’s vacated Illinois Senate seat.

That's pretty funny.

 
Is this accurate?

http://news4ktla.com/jared-fogle-murdered/

A Colorado prison inmate is being hailed a hero today by other fellow inmates after he admittedly stabbed to death Jared Fogle, former Subway spokesperson and convicted pedophile. Fogle was pronounced dead on March 17 at 3:03 AM with multiple stab wounds to the anal area. This comes just one month after his January 29th beating by an inmate in a rec yard. Fogle was jumped during that incident and received a bloody nose, swollen face and scratches on his neck.

 
Is this accurate?

http://news4ktla.com/jared-fogle-murdered/

A Colorado prison inmate is being hailed a hero today by other fellow inmates after he admittedly stabbed to death Jared Fogle, former Subway spokesperson and convicted pedophile. Fogle was pronounced dead on March 17 at 3:03 AM with multiple stab wounds to the anal area. This comes just one month after his January 29th beating by an inmate in a rec yard. Fogle was jumped during that incident and received a bloody nose, swollen face and scratches on his neck.
Im guessing no. No way a guard makes a statement like this:

“Fogle was probably the most hated inmate in our prison,” said Jeffrey Wales, a guard at the low security facility Fogle was being held at. “I knew he was not going to make it out of here alive. There were too many here that wanted him dead for what he did. There was only so much we could do to protect him. I guess it’s true what they say, what comes around goes around.”

 
FCI ENGLEWOOD

A low security federal correctional institution with an adjacent minimum security satellite camp and a detention center.

He was sent there to receive psychological treatment.  TMZ posted this this morning.

Jared Fogle got a surprise beatdown in federal prison from an inmate who has major issues with child molesters ... TMZ has learned.

According to docs, Fogle got jumped in the rec yard at Englewood prison in Colorado back on January 29, and it was not much of a fight. An inmate named Steven Nigg pushed Fogle down and then unloaded a barrage of punches to his face.

Nigg, who's in for a weapons charge, left Fogle with a bloody nose, swollen face and scratches on his neck. 60-year-old Nigg was also injured -- a small cut on his left hand from delivering the whuppin'. Prison officials put Nigg in solitary as punishment.

We spoke to Nigg's family and they're not surprised. We're told Steven's pissed because so many child sex predators are housed in the low security facility, and Fogle was just the last straw.

Jared's attorney had no comment. We don't wanna say karma, but ... oops.

#BeatFresh

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/16/jared-fogle-prison-fight-beating/#ixzz436IFcova
Guy I work with is a friend of Nigg. Said he's a good guy but not the brightest bulb in the string.

Inherited a hundred or so guns when his dad (I think) died. Wanted to get rid of them and started selling them. Having a felony on his record didnt make that a good choice and he ended up back in jail and I believe that's why he's in that same prison now.

 
I think all prisoners have the right to be safe in prison.  If we want to punish certain crimes with caning, or raping, then make it the law and be up front about it.
Who's wanting to punish crimes with rape or caning (that actually has the ability to do so)? It sounds like you're responding to some opinions here from the FBG community but those are just that...opinions. I'm pretty sure the law is clear that rape or caning in a prison isn't tolerated. If other prisoners take it upon themselves to dish out some pier punishment there really isn't much you can do.

 
Of course there's a lot you can do. Don't be ridiculous.

Whether anything is done or not is another question, but plenty of unsavory characters are protected while in prison. 

In any case I agree with Sinn. Turning a blind eye to "inmate justice", while certainly satisfying on some level, makes us more like a third-world country and is fundamentally un-American.
Perhaps I wasn't as clear as I could have been. No where did I mean to say "don't do anything." My point is that if an inmate is hell bent on doing damage you can bet that it's going to happen sooner or later. His post was interpreted by me as the justice system is turning a blind eye which is completely unfounded IMO. The justice system doesn't condone vigilante justice and they take measures to do what is possible.

 
Timothy McVeigh and Zacarias Moussaoui were/are successfully protected despite being much larger (in one sense of the word) targets. Maybe Jared shouldn't be in a minimum security prison...I'm sure there is some way of keeping him safe though perhaps it is cost-prohibitive. I really don't know.

Let's remember that everything I know about prison life I learned from Lockup so I'm speaking from a position of authority here.
If he were in a maximum security prison, he'd be dead within a week.  Minimum security is mostly for the kind of people who won't beat you to death.

 
In any case I agree with Sinn. Turning a blind eye to "inmate justice", while certainly satisfying on some level, makes us more like a third-world country and is fundamentally un-American.
There are lots of things that make us on par, or worse, than some of the most backwards countries on the planet.  Our high incarceration rate, our continued use of torture, direct advertising of pharmaceuticals (yup I believe only one or two other countries allow this terrible practice), our levels of gun violence etc.  The list goes on.

But turning a blind eye to "inmate justice" is not really one of them.

 
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Timothy McVeigh and Zacarias Moussaoui were/are successfully protected despite being much larger (in one sense of the word) targets. Maybe Jared shouldn't be in a minimum security prison...I'm sure there is some way of keeping him safe though perhaps it is cost-prohibitive. I really don't know.

Let's remember that everything I know about prison life I learned from Lockup so I'm speaking from a position of authority here.
Those guys are in ADX Supermax prison in a few hours away, with 23 hours of solitary confinement per day .  Jared transferred to Littleton prison because he thought he'd be safer.  Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Richard Reid are also at ADX.  There really is no safe for him.  Go into solitary and drive yourself crazy or hope that his money can afford him protection.

 
Put him in the HOLE then, or the SHOE or whatever. Or in a cell with Bill Cosby.
Solitary confinement is tantamount to torture.

And you are calling out for protecting Jared then joking about getting raped?  Good joke and I approve but it seems a little inconsistent.

 
That makes sense.

I'm done defending this scumbag, sorry for the tangent. 
I don't think you're defending him, and I agree that prison should be physically safe for prisoners.  I think if we focused more on rehabilitation and less on punishment, we'd probably be better off in the long run.

 
Those guys are in ADX Supermax prison in a few hours away, with 23 hours of solitary confinement per day .  Jared transferred to Littleton prison because he thought he'd be safer.  Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and Richard Reid are also at ADX.  There really is no safe for him.  Go into solitary and drive yourself crazy or hope that his money can afford him protection.
23 hours a day in solitary is pretty insane.  No TV, no window, no movable furniture.  Just insane

 
I think all prisoners have the right to be safe in prison.  If we want to punish certain crimes with caning, or raping, then make it the law and be up front about it.

A big part of our criminal justice problem is in how we treat prisoners in general - if we can figure that out, we would be in a better place.
Prison justice 

 
Im disappointed his fellow prisoners didnt take care of business in a more thorough matter:

tl;dr version

civil suit against him by one of his victims, who is seeking at least $150,000 in damages for the emotional distress she suffered because she was unknowingly photographed in the nude as a child.

Super doosh Fogle's attorneys seek to have her parents added as defendants in the case as well because her home life sucked, which lead her to engage "in various harmful activities"

It's rare I feel this way, but this guy needs to be put down permanently. 

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/02/news/companies/fogle-victim-parents/

 
Seems Jared's Ex is now suing Subway.  :rolleyes:
Not that I condone the suit, I'm sure it is a BS money grab, but I do find the internal memo interesting.  It seems a franchisee tried to warn corporate of Fogle's ways, and corporate's response was to the effect "well, he's getting married, so she should keep him in line."  Yet no one told the wife his ways, apparently. :shrug:  If true, corporate should be paying up to someone.

 
Not that I condone the suit, I'm sure it is a BS money grab, but I do find the internal memo interesting.  It seems a franchisee tried to warn corporate of Fogle's ways, and corporate's response was to the effect "well, he's getting married, so she should keep him in line."  Yet no one told the wife his ways, apparently. :shrug:  If true, corporate should be paying up to someone.
They have no legal obligation to inform her of anything. 

 
They have no legal obligation to inform her of anything. 
Agreed. Although this line of thinking also has me wondering if there is some liability to be found in Subway knowing Fogles proclivities, paying him exorbitant amounts of money, carting him around the country as a spokesman which allowed him easier access/resources to get to his victims.

 
Agreed. Although this line of thinking also has me wondering if there is some liability to be found in Subway knowing Fogles proclivities, paying him exorbitant amounts of money, carting him around the country as a spokesman which allowed him easier access/resources to get to his victims.
That may be, but of course thats a different issue. Naturally, we have no idea what type/how much evidence was presented to them.  

 
They have no legal obligation to inform her of anything. 
I'm guess I'm not making a legal argument as much as a moral argument.  Assuming for the sake of argument that corporate knew Fogle was an abuser and did nothing, they deserve any consequences that come their way.

 
I'm guess I'm not making a legal argument as much as a moral argument.  Assuming for the sake of argument that corporate knew Fogle was an abuser and did nothing, they deserve any consequences that come their way.
I completely agree but, at the same, I wonder what she knew or may have suspected. 

 
I completely agree but, at the same, I wonder what she knew or may have suspected. 
Watch the video of the announcement and you'll likely come away understanding she was completely ignorant on the matter.  She is hurt and upset for Jared's victims as much as for the pain she is going through having been married to the creep.

 
Watch the video of the announcement and you'll likely come away understanding she was completely ignorant on the matter.  She is hurt and upset for Jared's victims as much as for the pain she is going through having been married to the creep.
I understand it all, until the end:

The suit asks for compensation for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" 

 
I understand it all, until the end:

The suit asks for compensation for "intentional infliction of emotional distress" 
Oh yes, she has to have a cause of action for there to be a suit but that doesn't negate her sincerity in empathizing with the victims of her ex.

 

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