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Each State's Best IPA Beer - Value, Drinkability, Taste and Artwork (1 Viewer)

New York- Equilibium- Einsteins delight- it’s a triple but I don’t like rules or guidelines.

Ohio- Fatheads Hop Juju, Clag brewing Fat beer in a little can or Great Lakes Chillwave

Focal Banger>Heady topper but both are great

I like the cut of your jib!
 
So the elephant in the room with IPAs is age. How long has it been in the bottle or the can? Obviously the fresher the better. The quality and smell and taste can start to change in 30 days or less. Yes, I'm a snob who will check the canning date on the bottom of the cans. I typically won't buy it if it's more than 45 or 60 days old. I usually try for inside of 30 days.
Can't speak for everywhere but up here with some very heavily hopped/hyped IPAs, sometimes they get released a bit early and have some green/hop burn bitterness.

It depends so much on the style but for a hazy, new england, oats/wheat IPA, the peak is probably between 1-14 days (but in some cases closer to day 14 than 1 and vice versa). They shouldn't lose too much flavour until 75-120 days, again depending on the beer.

I don't think it's as true of Vermont and West Coast IPAs which really have a pretty long shelf life.

And I think which is a better made beer is an interesting conversation. I'd be team Vermont/West Coast without a doubt.
 
it was the last beer I drank on a really heavy night many years ago and puked afterward and can’t drink it anymore.
I did that with Guiness in college. It took me years before I was willing to try it again. Once I tried it again and I really liked it. You might try it again if it's been a lot of years.
Cool Ranch Doritos for me. Two decades later and one sniff still had me ready to yak again.
 
There was a Doghead Fish beer I really liked but I can't remember the name of it. It's been years since I have had it and I don't think they make it anymore (or maybe they changed the name). It was probably 10-15 years ago when I tried it and I think I would know it if I heard the name. It was dark with high alcohol content. It wasn't an IPA (I know wrong thread). Any thoughts?

Was this it?

It might be that. All the descriptors of if sound correct but the name doesn't ring any bells. I will see if I can search it out locally and give it a try.
I saw it on sale at a local grocery and loved it. Never saw it again.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.

What I'm saying is I've never seen a bar or brewery where 90% of taps are IPAs. No way.
 
I'd nominate:

1. Minnesota - Surly Furious
Without question.

For California, I'll throw this out there... Hangar 24's Betty IPA
I don't even think Furious is Surly's best IPA. It is very very good, but Todd the Axe Man is better (I guess Todd got the boot and it is just Axe Man now).

But also, there are better IPA's in the twin cities anyway. Barrel Theory and Blackstack and Falling Knife all make excellent IPAs
All excellent suggestions.
 
There was a Doghead Fish beer I really liked but I can't remember the name of it. It's been years since I have had it and I don't think they make it anymore (or maybe they changed the name). It was probably 10-15 years ago when I tried it and I think I would know it if I heard the name. It was dark with high alcohol content. It wasn't an IPA (I know wrong thread). Any thoughts?

Their stouts are pretty well-known. One I remember is the Dogfish Head Chicory Stout. Or there was a Dogfish Head Chicory Stout. They rotate what beers they're making available, so perhaps it was something you had that will be lost for eternity. The Chicory Stout had a red and beige label and tasted like licorice root and coffee a bit. At least it's somewhat poetic that you've got a long lost beer you once had.

Kind of like that time in Brooklyn I stumbled into a punk trailer/bar where they were selling beer and I sang Dead Boys songs with all the English-inspired punks (mohawks, studs, all the trappings) who were really American. It was a bar I could never find again (probably due to all the IPAs I'd had that night at the brewery), so I'm not even sure if my mind is playing tricks on me or if it happened. I'm pretty darn sure it happened.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.

What I'm saying is I've never seen a bar or brewery where 90% of taps are IPAs. No way.
I'm not the one complaining.


 
There was a Doghead Fish beer I really liked but I can't remember the name of it. It's been years since I have had it and I don't think they make it anymore (or maybe they changed the name). It was probably 10-15 years ago when I tried it and I think I would know it if I heard the name. It was dark with high alcohol content. It wasn't an IPA (I know wrong thread). Any thoughts?
was it their world wide stout?
 
There was a Doghead Fish beer I really liked but I can't remember the name of it. It's been years since I have had it and I don't think they make it anymore (or maybe they changed the name). It was probably 10-15 years ago when I tried it and I think I would know it if I heard the name. It was dark with high alcohol content. It wasn't an IPA (I know wrong thread). Any thoughts?
was it their world wide stout?
It wasn't a stout. It was more like the barrel aged brown ale type. Definitely not a stout. I think @BassNBrew got it with the Palo Santo Marron suggestion.
 
It was a bar I could never find again (probably due to all the IPAs I'd had that night at the brewery), so I'm not even sure if my mind is playing tricks on me or if it happened. I'm pretty darn sure it happened.
Maybe they also have the best burgers in New York. Just make sure you let Regis know when you find it.
 
It was a bar I could never find again (probably due to all the IPAs I'd had that night at the brewery), so I'm not even sure if my mind is playing tricks on me or if it happened. I'm pretty darn sure it happened.
Maybe they also have the best burgers in New York. Just make sure you let Regis know when you find it.

I had to look that up. I figured it was Seinfeld. Nope. How I Met Your Mother. Never watched the show. I'm not even sure who met the mother in the cast. I gather that was a plot twist of some sort.
 
Boise has a great brewery scene. There's 11 breweries, last I checked, within walking distance of me in downtown
I've kind of moved away from IPA's but will still get a Mother Earth Heavy Cloud Hazy now and then. I've heard their Boo Koo is really good but I'm still on their Milk Truck Stout for the winter. Getting it Nitro is amazing.

eta: Barbarian Brewing Little Wolf IPA is good too.

Oh, hello jamny.....

As I move left to right from Oregon to Idaho, it was the summer of 2020 and COVID had essentially shut most everything down. Well, most everything with the exception of the state of Idaho, where COVID wasn't viewed in the same light and masks were about as common as a Cowboys' fan in Philadelphia. Staying near the town of McCall, I stumbled upon an IPA from Sockeye Brewing out of Boise and became an immediate fan of their Dagger Falls IPA. The design work isn't great - the fish looks like something a kid might draw for a fantasy football website - but the beer is splendid. Another 6.5% ABV offering which might just be my sweet spot. If you're enjoying more than one, this is a fine choice.
The first time I had Sockeye was in McCall on our first trip to Boise in 2017. I've found their beers to be a little underwhelming but haven't tried Dagger Falls, so I'll give it a shot. They opened a restaurant nearby last year.
Covid was kind of the impetus to move here full time. We spent all of 2020 and half of 2021, one month in NY, one month in Boise. Back and forth. Talk about 2 extremes! Total lockdown to "what virus?" Covid made work from home possible for my wife, so there was nothing keeping us in NY.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.

What I'm saying is I've never seen a bar or brewery where 90% of taps are IPAs. No way.
I'm not the one complaining.


They are tired of IPAs because they are drinking poorly made IPAs.

I'll die on this hill.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
 
Boise has a great brewery scene. There's 11 breweries, last I checked, within walking distance of me in downtown
I've kind of moved away from IPA's but will still get a Mother Earth Heavy Cloud Hazy now and then. I've heard their Boo Koo is really good but I'm still on their Milk Truck Stout for the winter. Getting it Nitro is amazing.

eta: Barbarian Brewing Little Wolf IPA is good too.

Oh, hello jamny.....

As I move left to right from Oregon to Idaho, it was the summer of 2020 and COVID had essentially shut most everything down. Well, most everything with the exception of the state of Idaho, where COVID wasn't viewed in the same light and masks were about as common as a Cowboys' fan in Philadelphia. Staying near the town of McCall, I stumbled upon an IPA from Sockeye Brewing out of Boise and became an immediate fan of their Dagger Falls IPA. The design work isn't great - the fish looks like something a kid might draw for a fantasy football website - but the beer is splendid. Another 6.5% ABV offering which might just be my sweet spot. If you're enjoying more than one, this is a fine choice.
The first time I had Sockeye was in McCall on our first trip to Boise in 2017. I've found their beers to be a little underwhelming but haven't tried Dagger Falls, so I'll give it a shot. They opened a restaurant nearby last year.
Covid was kind of the impetus to move here full time. We spent all of 2020 and half of 2021, one month in NY, one month in Boise. Back and forth. Talk about 2 extremes! Total lockdown to "what virus?" Covid made work from home possible for my wife, so there was nothing keeping us in NY.

Yup, that's how it felt when we went out to lunch in McCall. "What's COVID?" seemed to be the mindset of everybody other than us. Felt weird walking into the place with masks on and some of the looks we got were not very welcoming ones.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.

What I'm saying is I've never seen a bar or brewery where 90% of taps are IPAs. No way.
I'm not the one complaining.


They are tired of IPAs because they are drinking poorly made IPAs.

I'll die on this hill.
While I don't think it's unreasonable to think someone can tire of a style, there are so many great IPAs coming out these days that are really making me rethink a lot of the classics that I grew up on.
 
henhouse Incredible IPA is delicious and should be available all over the us. It gets my vote for CA ipa.
Good pick. Henhouse makes some really good stuff. I really enjoy their Stoked! line of rotating hazy pale ales.
stoked has become a go to for me as well, at 5.4% it's right in that sweet spot to drink all day :bag: not quite coors light 4.2% to drink on the golf course but perfect for the last few holes to actually taste the beer but not get hammered from. Plus I can drink 6 stoked and feel fine the next day but 4 Incredibles and the hang over will be real.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
I hear you, like I said they're generally on the higher calorie scale and can frankly be more wheat-beer-ish than true IPAs in taste and "internal bloat". I have friends that love them and those that hate them, so I'm not surprised. I'm also guessing you aren't a fan of Citra as the main hops (though the Bodhizafa seems to use it) which a lot of Hazys seem to use as the main hop.
 
Oregon....

Love Boneyard RPM. Love Pfriem IPA, Breakside IPA, and Hop Lion from Double Mountain more.


Also, I really love Bubble Stash from Hop Valley.
 
Oregon....

Love Boneyard RPM. Love Pfriem IPA, Breakside IPA, and Hop Lion from Double Mountain more.


Also, I really love Bubble Stash from Hop Valley.

Yeah! THIS GUY BEERS!

Double Mountain has a great food menu - or did. Been a while since I've been but their pizzas are terrific and they've got a darn good Italian Sub, which aren't always easy to find in Oregon.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
I hear you, like I said they're generally on the higher calorie scale and can frankly be more wheat-beer-ish than true IPAs in taste and "internal bloat". I have friends that love them and those that hate them, so I'm not surprised. I'm also guessing you aren't a fan of Citra as the main hops (though the Bodhizafa seems to use it) which a lot of Hazys seem to use as the main hop.

I'm honestly not sophisticated enough on the different hop strains - hanging out with Urbanhack for just a few minutes and it's clear he knows WAY more about hop strains and the process of making beer than I do. The Bodhi on draft is actually closer to Hazy than I would like, but in a can, it doesn't seem to taste that way to me. And I think you're spot on - the wheat leaning beers (especially Hefeweizen's) make me feel internal bloat and I don't like that.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.

What I'm saying is I've never seen a bar or brewery where 90% of taps are IPAs. No way.
I'm not the one complaining.



I was referring to the people who were complaining.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
I hear you, like I said they're generally on the higher calorie scale and can frankly be more wheat-beer-ish than true IPAs in taste and "internal bloat". I have friends that love them and those that hate them, so I'm not surprised. I'm also guessing you aren't a fan of Citra as the main hops (though the Bodhizafa seems to use it) which a lot of Hazys seem to use as the main hop.

I'm honestly not sophisticated enough on the different hop strains - hanging out with Urbanhack for just a few minutes and it's clear he knows WAY more about hop strains and the process of making beer than I do. The Bodhi on draft is actually closer to Hazy than I would like, but in a can, it doesn't seem to taste that way to me. And I think you're spot on - the wheat leaning beers (especially Hefeweizen's) make me feel internal bloat and I don't like that.

 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
FWIW it's worth, I started drinking and loving IPAs in my mid-20s and they never impacted me. However, not that I'm 41, they just destroy my stomach and gut and I can barely drink more than one in a sitting and I don't enjoy them nearly as much. It's disappointing.

Fortunately, my stomach is still like iron when it comes to ingesting high scoville units.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
FWIW it's worth, I started drinking and loving IPAs in my mid-20s and they never impacted me. However, not that I'm 41, they just destroy my stomach and gut and I can barely drink more than one in a sitting and I don't enjoy them nearly as much. It's disappointing.

Fortunately, my stomach is still like iron when it comes to ingesting high scoville units.

Boneyard is gentle on my stomach.

And now I sound like Nolan Ryan from a 1980s Advil commercial. Neat.
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
FWIW it's worth, I started drinking and loving IPAs in my mid-20s and they never impacted me. However, not that I'm 41, they just destroy my stomach and gut and I can barely drink more than one in a sitting and I don't enjoy them nearly as much. It's disappointing.

Fortunately, my stomach is still like iron when it comes to ingesting high scoville units.

Boneyard is gentle on my stomach.

And now I sound like Nolan Ryan from a 1980s Advil commercial. Neat.
We're ****ing old. Can we go back to the days where I was venting about girls and not listening to anybody and you were yelling at me?
 
Lots of people complaining that every tap in the bar is an IPA.

I really don't see this anywhere and think it's a huge exaggeration.
It's frustrating if you like to try different types of beer and 9 of the 10 handles are IPA's. I know a lot of people that are tired of this (not necessarily because they don't like IPA's) because the variety of different type of beers has gone down.
What I've been seeing the past couple years is the proliferation of hazy beers. If I want a straight ahead, non-hazy IPA, it's likely that one option will be available. But they'll have five hazy varieties instead. Not a fan.

I am not a fan of the Hazy IPAs either. They really shred my stomach. They are definitely quite popular out here and my neighbor buddy loves them, but I just don't like the way they make me feel.
You point out something interesting here. My guess is your body either doesn't like the extra calories or the wheat/oats that give it those extra calories. While Hazy's are my goto beer (especially if I can try a non-Citra hopped one) if I'm having A beer out, these days I'm much more likely to get a well made lager, most likely a Pilsner for home.

Definitely think it's a 'me' thing with my relationship with Hazy IPAs. Older I get, I realize I'm built a little differently than others. For example, if we order Korean food and all get "medium" spice level, my wife and kids can eat it no problem. No sweating for them. Me? I'm leaking like Stryker trying to land an airplane. If I even cut a jalapeno pepper, my sweat glands start producing. It's weird.

I have probably been able to gulp down every bad beer imaginable in my life, from Pabst to Natural Light to Hamm's and all points in between. But I think 1/3 through a Hazy and my stomach is telling my brain "that's enough or you're going to be hurting later".
FWIW it's worth, I started drinking and loving IPAs in my mid-20s and they never impacted me. However, not that I'm 41, they just destroy my stomach and gut and I can barely drink more than one in a sitting and I don't enjoy them nearly as much. It's disappointing.

Fortunately, my stomach is still like iron when it comes to ingesting high scoville units.

Boneyard is gentle on my stomach.

And now I sound like Nolan Ryan from a 1980s Advil commercial. Neat.
We're ****ing old. Can we go back to the days where I was venting about girls and not listening to anybody and you were yelling at me?

I'm old. You're still a puppy! ;)

I don't really yell anymore. I don't have the energy. I just complain and sigh heavily.
 
Oregon....

Love Boneyard RPM. Love Pfriem IPA, Breakside IPA, and Hop Lion from Double Mountain more.


Also, I really love Bubble Stash from Hop Valley.

Yeah! THIS GUY BEERS!

Double Mountain has a great food menu - or did. Been a while since I've been but their pizzas are terrific and they've got a darn good Italian Sub, which aren't always easy to find in Oregon.
Had the pizza with a Hop Lion.....heaven.
 
There was a Doghead Fish beer I really liked but I can't remember the name of it. It's been years since I have had it and I don't think they make it anymore (or maybe they changed the name). It was probably 10-15 years ago when I tried it and I think I would know it if I heard the name. It was dark with high alcohol content. It wasn't an IPA (I know wrong thread). Any thoughts?
was it their world wide stout?
It wasn't a stout. It was more like the barrel aged brown ale type. Definitely not a stout. I think @BassNBrew got it with the Palo Santo Marron suggestion.
Any chance it was their 120 minute or 90 minute IPA?
 
If anyone has any other red IPAs to recommend please let me know.
I don't know if they make it any longer, but Founders used to make Red's Rye. One of my all time favs. Alaskan Brewing also made an Imperial Red 22oz bomber with a crab on the label...but I don't know if they make that any longer. I love a good balanced Red IPA. I actually think Furious from Surly has a bit of a touch of red ipa to it.

My favorite style of IPA besides west coast is black ipas or cascadian dark ales (that's what we call them out here). Wookey Jack from Firestone was one of the best ever but I think they stopped making that as well.
 
If anyone has any other red IPAs to recommend please let me know.
I don't know if they make it any longer, but Founders used to make Red's Rye. One of my all time favs. Alaskan Brewing also made an Imperial Red 22oz bomber with a crab on the label...but I don't know if they make that any longer. I love a good balanced Red IPA. I actually think Furious from Surly has a bit of a touch of red ipa to it.

My favorite style of IPA besides west coast is black ipas or cascadian dark ales (that's what we call them out here). Wookey Jack from Firestone was one of the best ever but I think they stopped making that as well.

I don't think Fat Tire is made anymore, but that was the beer of choice for @Judge Smails legendary chili. Not my favorite beer to drink, but it did its job in his recipe with the sweetness to it. I'll now go with Alaskan Amber as a substitute. Not even sure if Deschutes still makes their Red Chair NWPA but I used that too.

Breakside had a black IPA on tap recently and it was really good.

Breakside also has an offering right now called "Dime Bag IPA" made with weed terpene. I ordered one recently and it smells precisely like a bag of marijuana. Not my favorite beer of theirs but kind of a neat novelty. We need to fling discs and hit the Beaverton Breakside next time the weather is right.
 
Georgia runner-up for me would be Chance IPA

This is from my favorite brewery period - Wild Leap. They make some of the best beers across a variety of styles. In particular, they make some of the best stouts I've ever tasted.

If you ever get a chance to sample their Lone Buffalo special releases - do it

https://wildleap.com/our-beers/lone-buffalo-barrel-aged-stout/ (this is the basic offering - I've had 40 month Booker's barrel-aged version that was unreal)
 
If anyone has any other red IPAs to recommend please let me know.
I don't know if they make it any longer, but Founders used to make Red's Rye. One of my all time favs. Alaskan Brewing also made an Imperial Red 22oz bomber with a crab on the label...but I don't know if they make that any longer. I love a good balanced Red IPA. I actually think Furious from Surly has a bit of a touch of red ipa to it.

My favorite style of IPA besides west coast is black ipas or cascadian dark ales (that's what we call them out here). Wookey Jack from Firestone was one of the best ever but I think they stopped making that as well.

I don't think Fat Tire is made anymore, but that was the beer of choice for @Judge Smails legendary chili. Not my favorite beer to drink, but it did its job in his recipe with the sweetness to it. I'll now go with Alaskan Amber as a substitute. Not even sure if Deschutes still makes their Red Chair NWPA but I used that too.

Breakside had a black IPA on tap recently and it was really good.

Breakside also has an offering right now called "Dime Bag IPA" made with weed terpene. I ordered one recently and it smells precisely like a bag of marijuana. Not my favorite beer of theirs but kind of a neat novelty. We need to fling discs and hit the Beaverton Breakside next time the weather is right.
You ever make it to Backwoods? They have good beer, and food. Nice cozy atmosphere in the Pearl. Their Logyard IPA is delicious. I believe their place of origin is Carson Washington
 
From the replies above, seems like we're looking for readily available mid-level IPAs (as in not double IPAs nor session IPAs). For Illinois, I'd probably go with Daisy Cutter by Half Acre. There are dozens of Hazy IPAs or other IPA variants I'd put above that, but not in the same category nor not available year round.
Most of the best hazys come in smaller batches from local places and are very fresh. M43 is sort of unique in that they figured how to really upscale it and get it in bars, stadiums, movie theaters, etc.
Keep the hazies away from me. No longer a fan. Don't like the way they make me feel and a lot of times they just aren't very well made.

Completely agree - I will try any new hazy that gets recommended to me but too often they are all over the place in quality. I will say I do think there's a mouthfeel aspect to me with hazy's that I don't have with any other beers.
 

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