massraider
Footballguy
I like it. the "Days of our Lives" amnesia defense.
Can anyone here say without a shadow of a doubt that Walker doesn't have an evil twin spraying champagne on people?Naw, I didn't think so......
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Can anyone here say without a shadow of a doubt that Walker doesn't have an evil twin spraying champagne on people?Naw, I didn't think so......
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
I agree 100%. It's still entirely possible this news could affect his 2008 production. I've just yet to see ANYTHING that would lead me to that conclusion. If the reports are coming out that he's going to be ready for TC then I see no reason to worry. At least not about all of this.His knee is still imo the only big question.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
My Sr. year of highschool I got in a really bad car accident. I was diagnosed with Retrograde and antegrade amnesia. While I broke many bones, the severe concussion caused this as well as the excruciating pain I'm sure my brain just blocked out. To this day I don't remember about 4 hours before the accident and a few hours after. I remember leaving school. I remember waking up under bright florescent lights. It's not a "days of our lives" defense. It happens with brain trauma. In Days of our lives people don't remember who they are or who their friends are. In real people who have this know who they are, they just lose blocks of memories....I like it. the "Days of our Lives" amnesia defense.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
But no matter what the coaching staff is going to say that. That's what coaches do at times like this. They're talking about Ronnie Brown being back for TC. The guy blew out his knee week 7 and didn't get it repaired till week 8
Cadillac is supposed to be ready for TC. That's doubtful too. It could very well be that Walker is ready for TC, but I can't take coach speak as the word of God...
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
We know that timewise, Ronnie Brown isn't supposed to be healthy to start the year. He could be an exception but the general timeframe indicates there is no way he'll be okay come week one. Walker should be ready to go.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Friends offer counsel, support -- if Walker decides he wants it
By Bill Williamson
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: June 25, 2008
Ray Sherman knows life hasn't been right for Javon Walker since the first day of 2007.
Walker's world has taken a turn that worries Sherman, the Dallas Cowboys' receivers coach and a longtime Walker mentor.
"It's not him," said Sherman, who became a father figure to Walker while the two were in Green Bay together. "We need to sit down and talk. He needs to say what is going on, what is bothering him. We need to hammer it out. I'm concerned. I'm worried about him."
Sherman's concern is shared by others. Many of the dozens of people ESPN.com interviewed declined to talk on the record about their concern for Walker, a wide receiver who in March signed a six-year, $55 million deal with the Oakland Raiders. But everyone said they have reached out to him in recent days and they all worry about Walker's well-being, both mentally and physically. [+] EnlargeBrian Bahr/Getty Images
Javon Walker, shown here in 2006, expects to recover from facial injuries and a concussion suffered in a June 16 robbery in time to participate in the Raiders' July training camp.
A traumatic 18-month journey took another sad, upsetting turn in the early morning June 16 on a desolate Las Vegas side street. Shortly after 7 a.m., Walker's athletic body was found motionless, unconscious. His classically handsome face was battered. His wallet was empty. Jewelry was missing from his wrist, his neck and his ears.
Two days after the assault, the Raiders said they expected the former Pro Bowl receiver to make a full recovery and to be ready for training camp. ESPN.com's attempts to interview Walker were unsuccessful and his agent, Kennard McGuire, declined to comment.
The police still are investigating the robbery, which occurred after Walker spent two nights in chic casino nightclubs, reportedly spraying patrons with expensive bottles of champagne.
Once again, Vegas and spraying champagne bottles were playing a leading role in a drama starring Walker.
"When I heard this week that [the robbery] happened in Vegas, it immediately made me think of the past," said Walker's former Denver teammate John Lynch.
"It was just ironic. I'm not going to judge Javon. He's been through stuff few of us can imagine. He's really a good guy. I just hope the best for him."
Javon Walker Timeline
A look at the turbulent past 18 months for new Raiders WR Javon Walker:
• Jan. 1, 2007: Broncos teammate Darrent Williams dies in Walker's arms in downtown Denver.
• Jan. 6: While Williams is buried in Fort Worth, Texas, at a service attended by nearly everyone in the Broncos organization, Walker reportedly is seen in Las Vegas.
• Aug. 14: HBO airs interview with Walker in his only detailed comments on Williams' death.
• Sept.: Walker catches 17 passes in the Broncos' first two games but a right knee injury in Denver's third game hindered his performance. Walker misses seven games and has arthroscopic knee surgery.
• Nov./Dec.: Walker plays in Denver's final six games but has just seven catches.
• Dec. 31: The day after Denver's season ended, Walker tells reporters he didn't "fit in" in Denver and he wants to leave the team after two seasons.
• Feb. 28, 2008: Broncos cut Walker.
• March 6: Walker signs a six-year, $55 million contract with Oakland.
• June 16: Walker is assaulted in Las Vegas, suffering significant facial injuries.
• June 18: Raiders coach Lane Kiffin says Walker will be ready to practice by the start of training camp next month.
Worry and concern have dominated thoughts for Walker since the first hours of 2007.
Walker was sitting next to popular Denver right cornerback Darrent Williams in a limousine when Williams was shot and killed in a still unsolved drive-by shooting. Walker said in an August, 2008 interview with HBO -- the only documented time Walker has spoken about the tragedy -- that Williams died in his arms. Walker showed up at Denver's facility 12 hours after the shooting with Williams' blood covering his white shirt.
In the HBO interview, Walker said there was a melee at a Denver nightclub before the shooting death of Williams that escalated when fellow Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall and his cousin were spraying champagne. Walker, who was known to go to Vegas often on the team's off days in 2006, went to Las Vegas and was seen frequenting nightclubs during the weekend of Williams' funeral. Nearly every other member of the Broncos' organization attended the heart-breaking service in Williams' hometown of Fort Worth, Texas.
Walker was roundly criticized for the action, but many in the Denver organization supported him, saying he needed to handle the situation his way.
Rosalind Williams, who lost her only child in the limousine, said she wasn't upset with Walker for not going to the service. Williams, who has built a relationship with Walker since the tragedy, cringes at the thought that Walker went to Las Vegas this month. Still, she said it all makes sense.
On the weekend of Walker's trip, the Darrent Williams Foundation held its first fundraising gala and parade. Rosalind Williams personally asked Walker to attend the event. He told her he was busy.
Williams believes Walker, who'll turn 30 in October, went back to Las Vegas so he'd have an excuse not to face the memory of her son's loss.
"It hurts me because he should have been here," Williams said. "But he went back to Vegas. It's his coping mechanism."
Williams said she knows Walker has not come to grips with the loss of her son.
"He hasn't dealt with it, he just tried to move on, and believe me, you can't," she said. "I think he is just trying to be strong for everyone. Some men are like that. But he hasn't allowed himself to grieve."
Perhaps, he's now trying.
Sherman said Walker recently told him he is seeking professional counseling to deal with his memories of Williams. In his HBO interview, Walker was defiant when asked about the possibility of counseling. He said he didn't need it. The Broncos tried to get Walker help, but he was reluctant.
"There were guys who said if he needed to talk, we were there for him," Lynch said. "But he never wanted to go there."
Some close to Walker said he has said he feels he can't get over Williams' death. Still, those who know him best said that day has changed him dramatically. Walker's 2007 season was hampered by a knee injury that helped lead to an ugly departure from the Broncos, similar to his 2005 farewell to Green Bay. Besides the injury, many in the locker room said Walker, already a loner, was withdrawn last season.
"It will never go away, but he needs to deal with it so he can go on," said Sherman who lost his son to an accidental shooting in Green Bay several years ago. "Javon needs to come to grips. He is such a good guy. My daughters look at him like a big brother. He has such a good heart."
On his ESPN radio talk show in Dallas, Cowboys Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin talked to Rosalind Williams about Walker. He told her on the air that he was close with Walker prior to the shooting. But Irvin told Williams that he can no longer get Walker to return his calls since the tragedy. Others have similar tales.
Walker, described by some as a lost soul, is an enigma. He can be as cocky and selfish as any receiver in the league, often clamoring for the ball through the media. But he can also be generous and caring.
Walker, who made a practice in Denver of asking media members about their families and often asked for details of their jobs, would often show up at high school football games in low-income areas of Denver on Friday nights. Last season, he wore a Mohawk in a clear tribute to Williams for several months but he never publicly admitted the tribute, and also surprised Rosalind Williams with a professionally painted portrait of her and her son.
He also donated $30,000 to the Darrent Williams Teen Center in Denver.
For all of his inner pain, his questionable judgment and his complaints about his role in offenses in both Green Bay and in Denver, Walker has a sizable warm, lovable side.
"Hearing about this situation is just so hard because I have so many good memories of Javon," said Jeff Bowden, Walker's offensive coordinator at Florida State. "He'll always be a special kid to me. And that's how I see Javon -- as a kid. He has that great child-like smile. He always wanted to please you -- he was never trouble. Never."
"He's a great kid," Sherman said. "I just want the best for him."
Bill Williamson covers the NFL for ESPN.com\
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=3455402
By Bill Williamson
ESPN.com
(Archive)
Updated: June 25, 2008
Ray Sherman knows life hasn't been right for Javon Walker since the first day of 2007.
Walker's world has taken a turn that worries Sherman, the Dallas Cowboys' receivers coach and a longtime Walker mentor.
"It's not him," said Sherman, who became a father figure to Walker while the two were in Green Bay together. "We need to sit down and talk. He needs to say what is going on, what is bothering him. We need to hammer it out. I'm concerned. I'm worried about him."
Sherman's concern is shared by others. Many of the dozens of people ESPN.com interviewed declined to talk on the record about their concern for Walker, a wide receiver who in March signed a six-year, $55 million deal with the Oakland Raiders. But everyone said they have reached out to him in recent days and they all worry about Walker's well-being, both mentally and physically. [+] EnlargeBrian Bahr/Getty Images
Javon Walker, shown here in 2006, expects to recover from facial injuries and a concussion suffered in a June 16 robbery in time to participate in the Raiders' July training camp.
A traumatic 18-month journey took another sad, upsetting turn in the early morning June 16 on a desolate Las Vegas side street. Shortly after 7 a.m., Walker's athletic body was found motionless, unconscious. His classically handsome face was battered. His wallet was empty. Jewelry was missing from his wrist, his neck and his ears.
Two days after the assault, the Raiders said they expected the former Pro Bowl receiver to make a full recovery and to be ready for training camp. ESPN.com's attempts to interview Walker were unsuccessful and his agent, Kennard McGuire, declined to comment.
The police still are investigating the robbery, which occurred after Walker spent two nights in chic casino nightclubs, reportedly spraying patrons with expensive bottles of champagne.
Once again, Vegas and spraying champagne bottles were playing a leading role in a drama starring Walker.
"When I heard this week that [the robbery] happened in Vegas, it immediately made me think of the past," said Walker's former Denver teammate John Lynch.
"It was just ironic. I'm not going to judge Javon. He's been through stuff few of us can imagine. He's really a good guy. I just hope the best for him."
Javon Walker Timeline
A look at the turbulent past 18 months for new Raiders WR Javon Walker:
• Jan. 1, 2007: Broncos teammate Darrent Williams dies in Walker's arms in downtown Denver.
• Jan. 6: While Williams is buried in Fort Worth, Texas, at a service attended by nearly everyone in the Broncos organization, Walker reportedly is seen in Las Vegas.
• Aug. 14: HBO airs interview with Walker in his only detailed comments on Williams' death.
• Sept.: Walker catches 17 passes in the Broncos' first two games but a right knee injury in Denver's third game hindered his performance. Walker misses seven games and has arthroscopic knee surgery.
• Nov./Dec.: Walker plays in Denver's final six games but has just seven catches.
• Dec. 31: The day after Denver's season ended, Walker tells reporters he didn't "fit in" in Denver and he wants to leave the team after two seasons.
• Feb. 28, 2008: Broncos cut Walker.
• March 6: Walker signs a six-year, $55 million contract with Oakland.
• June 16: Walker is assaulted in Las Vegas, suffering significant facial injuries.
• June 18: Raiders coach Lane Kiffin says Walker will be ready to practice by the start of training camp next month.
Worry and concern have dominated thoughts for Walker since the first hours of 2007.
Walker was sitting next to popular Denver right cornerback Darrent Williams in a limousine when Williams was shot and killed in a still unsolved drive-by shooting. Walker said in an August, 2008 interview with HBO -- the only documented time Walker has spoken about the tragedy -- that Williams died in his arms. Walker showed up at Denver's facility 12 hours after the shooting with Williams' blood covering his white shirt.
In the HBO interview, Walker said there was a melee at a Denver nightclub before the shooting death of Williams that escalated when fellow Broncos receiver Brandon Marshall and his cousin were spraying champagne. Walker, who was known to go to Vegas often on the team's off days in 2006, went to Las Vegas and was seen frequenting nightclubs during the weekend of Williams' funeral. Nearly every other member of the Broncos' organization attended the heart-breaking service in Williams' hometown of Fort Worth, Texas.
Walker was roundly criticized for the action, but many in the Denver organization supported him, saying he needed to handle the situation his way.
Rosalind Williams, who lost her only child in the limousine, said she wasn't upset with Walker for not going to the service. Williams, who has built a relationship with Walker since the tragedy, cringes at the thought that Walker went to Las Vegas this month. Still, she said it all makes sense.
On the weekend of Walker's trip, the Darrent Williams Foundation held its first fundraising gala and parade. Rosalind Williams personally asked Walker to attend the event. He told her he was busy.
Williams believes Walker, who'll turn 30 in October, went back to Las Vegas so he'd have an excuse not to face the memory of her son's loss.
"It hurts me because he should have been here," Williams said. "But he went back to Vegas. It's his coping mechanism."
Williams said she knows Walker has not come to grips with the loss of her son.
"He hasn't dealt with it, he just tried to move on, and believe me, you can't," she said. "I think he is just trying to be strong for everyone. Some men are like that. But he hasn't allowed himself to grieve."
Perhaps, he's now trying.
Sherman said Walker recently told him he is seeking professional counseling to deal with his memories of Williams. In his HBO interview, Walker was defiant when asked about the possibility of counseling. He said he didn't need it. The Broncos tried to get Walker help, but he was reluctant.
"There were guys who said if he needed to talk, we were there for him," Lynch said. "But he never wanted to go there."
Some close to Walker said he has said he feels he can't get over Williams' death. Still, those who know him best said that day has changed him dramatically. Walker's 2007 season was hampered by a knee injury that helped lead to an ugly departure from the Broncos, similar to his 2005 farewell to Green Bay. Besides the injury, many in the locker room said Walker, already a loner, was withdrawn last season.
"It will never go away, but he needs to deal with it so he can go on," said Sherman who lost his son to an accidental shooting in Green Bay several years ago. "Javon needs to come to grips. He is such a good guy. My daughters look at him like a big brother. He has such a good heart."
On his ESPN radio talk show in Dallas, Cowboys Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin talked to Rosalind Williams about Walker. He told her on the air that he was close with Walker prior to the shooting. But Irvin told Williams that he can no longer get Walker to return his calls since the tragedy. Others have similar tales.
Walker, described by some as a lost soul, is an enigma. He can be as cocky and selfish as any receiver in the league, often clamoring for the ball through the media. But he can also be generous and caring.
Walker, who made a practice in Denver of asking media members about their families and often asked for details of their jobs, would often show up at high school football games in low-income areas of Denver on Friday nights. Last season, he wore a Mohawk in a clear tribute to Williams for several months but he never publicly admitted the tribute, and also surprised Rosalind Williams with a professionally painted portrait of her and her son.
He also donated $30,000 to the Darrent Williams Teen Center in Denver.
For all of his inner pain, his questionable judgment and his complaints about his role in offenses in both Green Bay and in Denver, Walker has a sizable warm, lovable side.
"Hearing about this situation is just so hard because I have so many good memories of Javon," said Jeff Bowden, Walker's offensive coordinator at Florida State. "He'll always be a special kid to me. And that's how I see Javon -- as a kid. He has that great child-like smile. He always wanted to please you -- he was never trouble. Never."
"He's a great kid," Sherman said. "I just want the best for him."
Bill Williamson covers the NFL for ESPN.com\
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=3455402
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Hate to say it and hope I'm wrong, but I think Walker is toast as a player. I think that was the first point Wasted Space was trying to make in the other thread. He saw Walker as someone disinterested in football and caught up in groupies and partying. It's pretty clear he was fairly close to the situation, not that that makes his homespun psychology right, but I'm not touching Walker this season. I hope he proves me wrong. I'm a little dependent on Russell in a dynasty league.
As for meno and all that baseless gossip based on Fantatic's sourceless source on Javon not pressing charges... well, that gossip column journalism should simply be ignored, not treated like a bunch of ladies under hair dryers at the beauty parlor. Javon is in no position to press charges right now. It is a criminal matter. There will be a criminal case. The DA is pressing charges. Javon cannot press criminal charges. He cannot stop the DA from pursuing them either. When the criminal case is over and hopefully with a conviction if they got the right guy(s), then Javon is in position to press civil charges should he be unsatisfied with the results of the criminal case. Civil cases are always easier if the include a conviction from the associated criminal case.
Back to the fantasy bit though. That ESPN piece portrays a pretty disturbed person, and combined with the escapist partying mentality, I just have a bad vibe. Javon may not have much left to give to the game of football. He's got his money. He's been traumatized emotionally. He may just want to escape to an endless summer of champagne and dancing while he's young and rich and able to enjoy it. Or maybe he had some sense beat into him. Or maybe none of this is even close to right. I don't know, but I'm not drafting him.
As for meno and all that baseless gossip based on Fantatic's sourceless source on Javon not pressing charges... well, that gossip column journalism should simply be ignored, not treated like a bunch of ladies under hair dryers at the beauty parlor. Javon is in no position to press charges right now. It is a criminal matter. There will be a criminal case. The DA is pressing charges. Javon cannot press criminal charges. He cannot stop the DA from pursuing them either. When the criminal case is over and hopefully with a conviction if they got the right guy(s), then Javon is in position to press civil charges should he be unsatisfied with the results of the criminal case. Civil cases are always easier if the include a conviction from the associated criminal case.
Back to the fantasy bit though. That ESPN piece portrays a pretty disturbed person, and combined with the escapist partying mentality, I just have a bad vibe. Javon may not have much left to give to the game of football. He's got his money. He's been traumatized emotionally. He may just want to escape to an endless summer of champagne and dancing while he's young and rich and able to enjoy it. Or maybe he had some sense beat into him. Or maybe none of this is even close to right. I don't know, but I'm not drafting him.
ukshane
Footballguy
What DA is going to pursue a criminal case without the cooperation of the victim or another witness?Defense Attorney: Mr. Fadel, did you assault Mr. Walker on the night in question?
Mr. Fadel: No.
Defense Attorney: The defense rests.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
Well again, I will say the notion that he will not press charges is just an insinuation by a gossip columnist that has been quoted everywhere and treated as fact by many, most notably me. No one can prove he said that and with the concussion, he may not actually remember any of it and thus may not be able to help the police in the matter not because he doesn't want to cooperate due to some embarrassing reason but because me may not be able to cooperate much. But considering how well video surveillance is in that town, I doubt they need much more than video of him getting into the car, his battered body found later and let the Jury fill in the gaps...
There is a rumor floating around that Walker suffered more facial injuries than the broken orbital bone ... possibly a broken jaw. I do not know what the prognosis would be with a busted jaw, but he could make it back by preseason if motivated (huge if).
Peak
Footballguy
If it's true...a broken jaw may be a good thing. Big Ben had worse injuries and managed to come back for camp, including a broken jaw. Just wire it shut so he can't speak out of line and get in any more trouble. That should solve everything.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
I'm starting to wonder if we will ever get the full story on this. It's starting to seem like we never will...
BusMan
Footballguy
TheFanatic
Footballguy
It is a good read.Doesn't sound like he was doing anything illicit or that he is not cooperating with the police. Sounds like he is fuzzy about the events based on the head injury. Broken jaw can be a real issue though. If he has to have his jaw wired shut that means he's eating nothing but fluids for a few weeks which means he will lose a lot of weight. Not all broken jaws require wiring to heal. If his has to be wired his 2008 season will get off to a SLOOOOWWWW start....
Sounds like this Fadel guy was trying to score some cash to save his house.
Banger
Footballguy
Interesting. What doesn't make much sense to me is that a stranger calls him over to his car, he gets in, drives around the block for a minute, gets back to the hotel, gets out of the car, went into the casino for a minute, came back out with the two guys, got into the car and left again. Drugs? I just don't know what other reason someone would get into a car with a stranger, drive around the block, get out and get back in and drive away especially when you've got what sounds to be a hooker/groupie sitting and waiting for you in the valet area.
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TheFanatic
Footballguy
That struck me as odd as well. The question is, did he really just go around the block? I mean did they pull out and Javon said, "wait, I need to go back to my room and get a few grand if we are going to club some more." Or did they drive around for a little while, spark one up, and then head back to the hotel? I dunno
AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Depends how much he had been drinking. I've done some crazy stuff in my drunken stupors.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Amen brother....
massraider
Footballguy
How does that scenario make sense for drugs?I am wondering because, anytime a part of the timeline has been filled in here, there has been someone to mention that they could only think of one, or possibly two, explanations for Walker's actions that night. Which, considering how little info we have about that night, has been some impressive deductive reasoning.
So I am wondering, what in that series of events leads you to drugs, and only drugs? The driving back to the hotel? Walking into the casino? Going into a casino, and returning with people?
Also, the hooker/groupie: Where did it mention she was a hooker?
I see nothing in that report to indicate Walker was up to anything illegal, nefarious, or otherwise. It sounds a lot like he was targeted, followed, and robbed. Driver observed the Ranger Rover following him. Walker goes back to the hotel, they engage him, and get him to leave with them. They return to the hotel briefly (this could be for approx. 5,000 reasons) they take him to Drai's, which is a great place to get someone F'ed up, then rob him.
massraider
Footballguy
According to that police report, Walker identified his attacker at the hospital, early on in the investigation.
So much for not going to press charges. If you have some dark secret to hide, you don't ID the guy.
So much for not going to press charges. If you have some dark secret to hide, you don't ID the guy.
Banger
Footballguy
I'm just trying to come up with a reason why you'd get into a car with two total strangers. If he wanted to head out to another club/casino he had the Herman girl to drive him. I really can't think of a good reason but maybe he was just ######edly drunk and didn't know what was going on. If I had a friend right there at the hotel though that was obviously willing to drive him around because she already had driven him and went to meet him later after she already went back to her house, I just don't know why you'd hop into a car with two dudes you don't know.You're right about the hooker/groupie, I just assumed and it's probably a bad assumption.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Exactly. Drugs is a possibility. They were seen at the same places Javon was at, so maybe he thought these guys were part of the A-List in crowd and the promised to take him to another bash. Like I said, he may have said to them to swing back by his hotel after they pulled out to get some more cash, who knows. The point is they used something to get a stranger to get in the car with them. Drugs is an option but not the only option here....
massraider
Footballguy
My only point. If they did go to Drai's, I think it is a possibility that he was just still partying, and two strangers (and I think it's possible that he met them earlier) coninced him to continue the party.I think drugs are possible. What I don't think is that there are only X number of reasons (all of them coincidentally making Walker "up to no good") for Walker to have done any of this.
Walker did not do everything is his power to keep himself safe, the only thing I am convinced he is guilty of right now is carelessness. Stupidity at the club? Fine, sure, but right now, there is nothing to suggest that that has anything to do with the price of tea in China. We don't know how these guys latched onto him. Walker may have met them at the club, and "ran into them" at Bellagio. Maybe they didn't even target him. Maybe they just wanted to party with an NFL guy, and they got into an argument later.
I think there are a lot of possibilities. And as a Raider fan, I'm not sure it matters. We still have a WR with a busted jaw, who still needs to prove his knee is sound, and has a big contract to live up to. I am not following the story because I care if Javon 'deserved' it or not, I am worried about signs of illegal activity that may be a harbinger of things to come. So far, I am not seeing it. Is he a doosh? Sure seems like it. I can live with that. Aside from Holt, Housh, and Harrison (Whoops, maybe just the first two) I pretty much think all NFL WRs are dooshes. Doesn't prevent them from helping their team.
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Banger
Footballguy
I don't care one way or the other. I have no axe to grind, don't think he's a punk or a jerk and don't really have an opinion on him at all. I don't even believe I posted in this 8 page marathon prior to this. I just read the police report and that's what stuck out like a sore thumb to me. I could be totally wrong.
massraider
Footballguy
And I wasn't going after you.Just kinda chose this moment to explain why I have been playing thread police. I am no Javon fanboy.
fatness
Footballguy
That's quite detailed, thanks for posting it.So the guy who is accused of following him around in the Range Rover, beating him, and robbing him, and the woman who owned the Range Rover have no jobs, no visible income, are being evicted from their foreclosed home in 3 days. That's a powerful need for cash.
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cstu
Footballguy
Got a laugh out of Javon ditching the Herman chick at the hotel and then calling her later to pick him up at another casino after she already went home.Also, is it common for NFL players to get into the cars of people they don't know?
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BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
It just seems to be one thing after another with him since Williams was killed...some his own fault and some not...injuries and stupid stuff...i just hope after all this he doenst do something even more stupid ,like kill himself...he seems unstable at best.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Jeez, Javon should feel like a chump getting a beating from the clowns that roughed him up.
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Some people will roll you for no good reason too. Life happens.Javon needs to count his blessings and not be a self-pitying priss. Find better coping mechanisms and step out of the darkness instead of sucking everyone who cares about you in with it. At some point his team-mates need to move on and let him stand up for himself.
massraider
Footballguy
With all the cameras at the hotel/casinos in Vegas, I would have been disappointed if these two weren't caught.
You have to be a special kind of stupid to go into a casino with someone, and get in your girlfriend's car, with someone you plan on robbing.
You have to be a special kind of stupid to go into a casino with someone, and get in your girlfriend's car, with someone you plan on robbing.
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