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Javon Walker Injury Update (1 Viewer)

2007 Preseason has been similar, Walker has played over 2 quarters and has only two targets, resulting in two catches for 27 yards.
Chad Johnson has 3 receptions for 55 yards, he must be behind Skyler GreenSteve Smith has 3 receptions for 23 yards, must be behind Taye BiddleWhatever you do, don't draft Roy Williams. With only 1 reception for 23 yards, he's obviously not playing well with Kitna. McDonald is the new man in town.
Those are completely different situations because they are all proven #1's with their current QB. However, you do prove my point in another area, look at their targets last year:SSmith - 140 in 14 gamesCJohnson - 154RWilliams - 153Cutler/Walker's 112 target projection pales in comparison. It's pretty eye-opening to compare how ignored Walker has been as a WR1 since Cutler has been QB.
Maybe Walker's targets were less in comparison to Smith, Johnson & ROY because Cutler was a rookie QB learning the offense, dumping off to the RB & TE more frequently then the veterns Delhomme, Palmer & Kitna?
 
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2007 Preseason has been similar, Walker has played over 2 quarters and has only two targets, resulting in two catches for 27 yards.
Chad Johnson has 3 receptions for 55 yards, he must be behind Skyler GreenSteve Smith has 3 receptions for 23 yards, must be behind Taye BiddleWhatever you do, don't draft Roy Williams. With only 1 reception for 23 yards, he's obviously not playing well with Kitna. McDonald is the new man in town.
Those are completely different situations because they are all proven #1's with their current QB. However, you do prove my point in another area, look at their targets last year:SSmith - 140 in 14 gamesCJohnson - 154RWilliams - 153Cutler/Walker's 112 target projection pales in comparison. It's pretty eye-opening to compare how ignored Walker has been as a WR1 since Cutler has been QB.
Maybe Walker's targets were less in comparison to Smith, Johnson & ROY because Cutler was a rookie QB learning the offense, dumping off to the RB & TE more frequently then the veterns Delhomme, Palmer & Kitna?
Clearly that's not the case, because two quarters of preseason action are enough to draw firm and educated conclusions on how the upcoming season is going to shake out.
 
2007 Preseason has been similar, Walker has played over 2 quarters and has only two targets, resulting in two catches for 27 yards.
Chad Johnson has 3 receptions for 55 yards, he must be behind Skyler GreenSteve Smith has 3 receptions for 23 yards, must be behind Taye BiddleWhatever you do, don't draft Roy Williams. With only 1 reception for 23 yards, he's obviously not playing well with Kitna. McDonald is the new man in town.
Those are completely different situations because they are all proven #1's with their current QB. However, you do prove my point in another area, look at their targets last year:SSmith - 140 in 14 gamesCJohnson - 154RWilliams - 153Cutler/Walker's 112 target projection pales in comparison. It's pretty eye-opening to compare how ignored Walker has been as a WR1 since Cutler has been QB.
Maybe Walker's targets were less in comparison to Smith, Johnson & ROY because Cutler was a rookie QB learning the offense, dumping off to the RB & TE more frequently then the veterns Delhomme, Palmer & Kitna?
Not to get too far off on a tangent, but I believe there was a comprehensive analysis done on this board which disproved the myth that a rookie QB threw to his TE's & RB's more than veterans. In reality, it was discovered that rookie QB's tend to throw to their WR's more because they often do not make progressions or read defenses accurately because of their inexperience.
 
Pop quiz: Guess who Denver's leading receiver is when Cutler is in the game this preseason?
Brandon Marshall with 3 receptions, what do I win?
Since when is a team's "leading receiver" the guy with the most receptions and not the guy with the most yards?
Receivers are ranked by both yardage and receptions, obviously chose the one that fits your argument but you should have been more dpecific with your initial question. Bottom line, Marshall has been the go to guy in preseason. He has more targets, more receptions, and obviously more FF points for those of us in PPR.Last year Walker was getting a few more looks than Marshall, but after an off season working together it appears as if the Cutler/Marshall tandem is where the Broncos are pinning their hopes this year. Marshall has been pimped on this board for a long time, I guess we'll finally get to see if it was rightfully deserved because he's clearly option #1, 2 and 3 in the passing game right now.
 
Pop quiz: Guess who Denver's leading receiver is when Cutler is in the game this preseason?
Brandon Marshall with 3 receptions, what do I win?
Since when is a team's "leading receiver" the guy with the most receptions and not the guy with the most yards?
Receivers are ranked by both yardage and receptions, obviously chose the one that fits your argument but you should have been more dpecific with your initial question.

Bottom line, Marshall has been the go to guy in preseason. He has more targets, more receptions, and obviously more FF points for those of us in PPR.

Last year Walker was getting a few more looks than Marshall, but after an off season working together it appears as if the Cutler/Marshall tandem is where the Broncos are pinning their hopes this year. Marshall has been pimped on this board for a long time, I guess we'll finally get to see if it was rightfully deserved because he's clearly option #1, 2 and 3 in the passing game right now.
I liked it better when you used real (selective) facts. Everyone means yardage when they discuss the leading WR for a team. Check pro-reference.com if you don't want to believe me.ETA: Brian Clark and Quincy Morgan have more receptions than Marshall. Looks like they're 1a and 1b in Denver this year.

 
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I liked it better when you used real (selective) facts. Everyone means yardage when they discuss the leading WR for a team. Check pro-reference.com if you don't want to believe me.
:unsure: OK, I checked your link, and it lists by both categories for leaders: link

 
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I liked it better when you used real (selective) facts. Everyone means yardage when they discuss the leading WR for a team. Check pro-reference.com if you don't want to believe me.
:lmao: OK, I checked your link, and it lists by both categories for leaders: link
That's the league leaders. It also lists what players had the most receiving TDs, so next time I ask what a team's "leading receiver" is, are you going to tell me the guy who has the most TDs? Only if it suits your argument, right? :lmao: Here's an example. See who is listed as Cleveland's "leading receiver" last year. Is it Kellen Winslow, whose 89 receptions led the team? Or is it Braylon Edwards, who had TWENTY EIGHT fewer receptions but more receiving yards? Oh, look, it's Braylon Edwards- who would have guessed? :goodposting:

 
H.K. said:
-OZ- said:
I liked it better when you used real (selective) facts. Everyone means yardage when they discuss the leading WR for a team. Check pro-reference.com if you don't want to believe me.
:loco: OK, I checked your link, and it lists by both categories for leaders: link
What link? I didn't add a link, I sent you to a site. Use SSOG's example, or Minnesota in 1998:

Cris Carter | 16 | 1 -1 -1.0 0 | 78 1011 13.0 12 |

Randy Moss | 16 | 1 4 4.0 0 | 69 1313 19.0 17

Who would you rank as the #1 WR in Minnesota?

1998 NFL Minnesota Vikings 15-1-0 Green Cunningham Smith Moss

OR, Detroit last year:

Mike Furrey | 16 | 0 0 0.0 0 | 98 1086 11.1 6 |

Roy Williams | 16 | 2 2 1.0 0 | 82 1310 16.0 7

2006 NFL Detroit Lions 3-13-0 Marinelli Kitna Jones Williams

As I stated, I have no problem with your schtick, just don't flat out lie when quoting stats. Use correct stats to lie for you.

 
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H.K. said:
SSOG said:
Pop quiz: Guess who Denver's leading receiver is when Cutler is in the game this preseason?
Brandon Marshall with 3 receptions, what do I win?
Since when is a team's "leading receiver" the guy with the most receptions and not the guy with the most yards?
Receivers are ranked by both yardage and receptions, obviously chose the one that fits your argument but you should have been more dpecific with your initial question. Bottom line, Marshall has been the go to guy in preseason. He has more targets, more receptions, and obviously more FF points for those of us in PPR.

Last year Walker was getting a few more looks than Marshall, but after an off season working together it appears as if the Cutler/Marshall tandem is where the Broncos are pinning their hopes this year. Marshall has been pimped on this board for a long time, I guess we'll finally get to see if it was rightfully deserved because he's clearly option #1, 2 and 3 in the passing game right now.
Come on now, the fishing fun will end rather quickly if you keep going over the top with silly logic. Keep it real and you can reel in more fishies. Using limited preseason stats to draw those kinds of conclusions... too obvious, H.K. Keep it subtle, you'll get to ride the schtick even longer than you already have. :lmao:

 

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