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Javon Walker wont' accept pay cut (1 Viewer)

rascal

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IMO you can pretty much guarantee that he won't be around next year. Brandon Marshall owners just hit a home run.

http://origin.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_7705255

Walker looking forward

WR eager to return next season, but without a pay cut

By Mike Chambers

The Denver Post Article

Last Updated: 12/12/2007 11:56:05 PM MST

Broncos wide receiver Javon Walker, who has been inactive for eight of 13 games because of a knee injury, said Wednesday he is looking forward to returning to the team next year — but he doesn't want to take a pay cut despite his struggles.

Walker, 29, is scheduled to make $7.6 million next season, with a $5.4 million option bonus coming due. If Walker's knee continues to be a concern, the Broncos could attempt to restructure his contract or could save $4.4 million in bonus money if they were to cut him before next season.

"My big deal didn't kick in until this year," Walker said. "I went into the season got injured, and couldn't play as many games and couldn't perform at the level I'm capable of, and then at the end of the year, you ask me to take a pay cut, right when it just kicked in?

"It's not like I was into the deal three, four years, and I'm getting ready to hit a base salary. I haven't been a full year into this deal (since) March.

"I'm looking at it as, I feel like I still have my best years to come."

Walker said he hopes to be a part of an explosive receiving corps, playing alongside Brandon Marshall and Brandon Stokley.

"You get an offense where you're spreading the ball between Stokley and Marshall and myself, it's potent," Walker said. "Nobody can stop us.

Obviously, we know what we have to work towards when we get to '08, and that's just exciting. I'm just looking forward to just getting back to full speed, because I know what I can do when I'm 100 percent."

Walker would like reestablish his value at the end of this season, but says he still will not be 100 percent healthy until the offseason. He is questionable for tonight's game at Houston, but said he expects to play after practicing Tuesday and Wednesday.

"I might not be 100 percent, but I'm confident knowing that I can beat anybody," Walker said. "When the adrenaline is rushing and it's game day, I can still beat any corners out there."

 
I understand where he is coming from, but I doubt Denver ponies up the money. Coming off of a major injury with another imjury ridden year lowers his value. Maybe with caps going up someone will pay though :moneybag:

 
Wow. I'm very surprised by all of this and it seems to have come out of nowhere. I know Marshall has been good but has it been that good to show a wr like walker the door? Maybe it has more to do with the injury or a combination of the risk associated with the knee and Marshall's explosive development.

I wonder what the likelihood of this happening is? Can the Bronco's trade him if he's unwilling to take a cut? I guess even if they could they wouldn't get much for him considering the injury risk/salary that a team would have to take on. Very interesting stuff...

 
I believe we have alluded to this possibility on The Audible more than once this year...

PS EEE

 
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There goes any value Marshall had. He will be drafted way to early next year. Way to early.
The way he's playing I think he'll justify a high draft pick. He has Top 10 WR written all over him and it wouldn't surprise me to see him finish Top 5 next season if Walker is gone.
 
There goes any value Marshall had. He will be drafted way to early next year. Way to early.
True, Marshall has performed horribly without Walker in the lineup.
That's an interesting leap you made from what he said.
Oh, he's talking about getting Marshall cheap. I read it as him saying that Marshall's value drops without Walker. Value is a vague term...much like quality. They need qualifiers...but most people just drop the qualifier.
 
Brandon Marshall had a run in with the law with an alchohol related problem which would probably mean a violation of the league's substance abuse policy but first time offenses are not reportable to the media but its within the realm of possible that he has one strike against him.

Then consider Marshall has two one hundred yard receiving games all year. Javon was only healthy for two games early in the year. In both of those games Javon had over 100 receiving yards. If the Broncos feel comfortable letting Javon Walker go in order to save a few bucks then I hope my team jumps all over Javon. Shanny doesn't like prima donnas. He got rid of Portis after Clinton pulled out a heavy weight wrestlers belt and held it high over his head in KC flashing it at Priest Holmes a few years back. But Shanny really doesn't like substance abuse guys, he cut Maurice Clarrett in training camp, he benched Mike Anderson when he tested positive for Marijuanna when Mike said it was second had smoke. That opened the door for Reuben Droughns. So Javon could be on thin ice but it would have more to do with his prima donna attitude that Shanny tends to heavily frown upon rather than the money he expects. If they lose Walker it will adversely impact Cutler. Just look at the value of a big time WR like Walker has had to teams like, Patriots, Cowboys, or the emergence of Braylon Edwards. Tom Brady was always a great QB but he didn't post huge numbers till he got Moss and Welker. Romo came out of nowhere but would he be as sensational without the benefit of TO and Whitten? Derek Anderson has Braylon Edwards setting all-time club records and has already surpassed a thousand yards but he is also is benefiting from KWII who is 57 yards from his own thousand yard season.

So any Bronco/Cutler/Walker fan would have to hope that Javon can cool his act and/or Shanny can excercise patience with Javon. The one issue that was not brought up was that Javon had Darrent Williams die in his arms and said he feared for his life in Denver so Javon may want to leave the Mile High City and I don't blame him if he truly does fear for his life.

 
probably why the broncos set up the contract like walker was saying. They see how he holds up/performs right away and if he does he gets the big payday. His Only problem is he hasn't held up health wise, so he probably isn't going to see that big money...

 
WR might be the most over-valued position in sports. Very few of them are worth the money they are receiving, especially one who looks like he has problems staying healthy.

 
EdwardCat said:
Spike said:
EdwardCat said:
Rounders said:
There goes any value Marshall had. He will be drafted way to early next year. Way to early.
True, Marshall has performed horribly without Walker in the lineup.
That's an interesting leap you made from what he said.
Oh, he's talking about getting Marshall cheap. I read it as him saying that Marshall's value drops without Walker. Value is a vague term...much like quality. They need qualifiers...but most people just drop the qualifier.
Sorry to confuse you. What I meant to say is that Marshall has great talent, but people will be tabbing him as a top 10 WR next year because of this. I will pass on that. Yes he has talent to be that, but his ADP next year is going to be really high, too high for that.
 
Sabertooth said:
I'm shocked that Walker won't take one for the team. That GB trade sure is looking a little different nowadays.
Take one for the team? They are trying to cut his salary. How would you respond if your boss suggested that to you?
Walker missed a whole season with GB, then demanded GB to redo his contract that had 2 years left on it and forced a trade. Has to be some give and take somewhere.
 
EdwardCat said:
Spike said:
EdwardCat said:
Rounders said:
There goes any value Marshall had. He will be drafted way to early next year. Way to early.
True, Marshall has performed horribly without Walker in the lineup.
That's an interesting leap you made from what he said.
Oh, he's talking about getting Marshall cheap. I read it as him saying that Marshall's value drops without Walker. Value is a vague term...much like quality. They need qualifiers...but most people just drop the qualifier.
Sorry to confuse you. What I meant to say is that Marshall has great talent, but people will be tabbing him as a top 10 WR next year because of this. I will pass on that. Yes he has talent to be that, but his ADP next year is going to be really high, too high for that.
Yeah, I agree with that. What Marshall is doing given how short of time he's played in the NFL is very impressive. He has earned the top 10 WR moniker for next year.
 
Sabertooth said:
I'm shocked that Walker won't take one for the team. That GB trade sure is looking a little different nowadays.
Take one for the team? They are trying to cut his salary. How would you respond if your boss suggested that to you?
Walker missed a whole season with GB, then demanded GB to redo his contract that had 2 years left on it and forced a trade. Has to be some give and take somewhere.
What does that have to do with the situation with Denver? How many players would be happy to redo their contracts because they got injured?
 
Walker and his team potentially at odds over money? Never would've seen that coming. :goodposting:
Green Bay was slammed for being cheap and Favre for betraying a teammate because they wanted him to have 2 good years before paying. Then he was hurt and even had his father slamming the Packers.Denver put up the money and looked good last year. Had he stayed in Green Bay and not whined he would have gotten paid like Driver and Donald Lee have. Green Bay isn't cheap but are careful who they give tons of money to.
 
Wow, how come no one is bashing Denver like they did with Green Bay here?
Because Walker was underpaid in Green Bay and he's overpaid in Denver.
:fishy:We've been over this numerous times. He was not underpaid in Green Bay. He agreed to a much better rookie contract than rookies normally get. His production didn't warrant that high of a contract, he was way overpaid his first 2 years. Once he started to produce he only had 1 1/2 good years. He still had 2 years left on his contract, he was the idiot who wanted a loaded contract as a rookie, he got it, then wanted more and more with only 1 1/2 good years under his belt. :fishing:
 
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Wow, how come no one is bashing Denver like they did with Green Bay here?
Because Walker was underpaid in Green Bay and he's overpaid in Denver.
:pickle:We've been over this numerous times. He was not underpaid in Green Bay. He agreed to a much better rookie contract than rookies normally get. His production didn't warrant that high of a contract, he was way overpaid his first 2 years. Once he started to produce he only had 1 1/2 good years. He still had 2 years left on his contract, he was the idiot who wanted a loaded contract as a rookie, he got it, then wanted more and more with only 1 1/2 good years under his belt. :excited:
Why didn't you post that two years ago? You could have saved us the huge, hundred page Javon Walker thread... :mellow:
 
Wow, how come no one is bashing Denver like they did with Green Bay here?
Because Walker was underpaid in Green Bay and he's overpaid in Denver.
:no: We've been over this numerous times. He was not underpaid in Green Bay. He agreed to a much better rookie contract than rookies normally get. His production didn't warrant that high of a contract, he was way overpaid his first 2 years. Once he started to produce he only had 1 1/2 good years. He still had 2 years left on his contract, he was the idiot who wanted a loaded contract as a rookie, he got it, then wanted more and more with only 1 1/2 good years under his belt.
"1 1/2 good years" is half a career for most WRs.But fine....let's say for the sake of argument that Walker was, in fact, "overpaid" in Green Bay.

Wouldn't you have to also agree that's even more overpaid now?

 
Sabertooth said:
I'm shocked that Walker won't take one for the team. That GB trade sure is looking a little different nowadays.
Take one for the team? They are trying to cut his salary. How would you respond if your boss suggested that to you?
Walker missed a whole season with GB, then demanded GB to redo his contract that had 2 years left on it and forced a trade. Has to be some give and take somewhere.
I thought (in this order) he wanted a new contract, never got it, showed up for the season, got hurt and then after he was hurt said he'd never play for the pack again. I could be wrong be though....
 
Sabertooth said:
I'm shocked that Walker won't take one for the team. That GB trade sure is looking a little different nowadays.
Take one for the team? They are trying to cut his salary. How would you respond if your boss suggested that to you?
Walker missed a whole season with GB, then demanded GB to redo his contract that had 2 years left on it and forced a trade. Has to be some give and take somewhere.
I thought (in this order) he wanted a new contract, never got it, showed up for the season, got hurt and then after he was hurt said he'd never play for the pack again. I could be wrong be though....
You are correct Sir!
 
Sorry to confuse you. What I meant to say is that Marshall has great talent, but people will be tabbing him as a top 10 WR next year because of this. I will pass on that. Yes he has talent to be that, but his ADP next year is going to be really high, too high for that.
Yeah, I agree with that. What Marshall is doing given how short of time he's played in the NFL is very impressive. He has earned the top 10 WR moniker for next year.
This is rich. He's barely in the Top 15 this year, ahead of guys like Andre Johnson, Steve Smith and Roy Williams who will be drafted over him again.
 
Sorry to confuse you. What I meant to say is that Marshall has great talent, but people will be tabbing him as a top 10 WR next year because of this. I will pass on that. Yes he has talent to be that, but his ADP next year is going to be really high, too high for that.
Yeah, I agree with that. What Marshall is doing given how short of time he's played in the NFL is very impressive. He has earned the top 10 WR moniker for next year.
This is rich. He's barely in the Top 15 this year, ahead of guys like Andre Johnson, Steve Smith and Roy Williams who will be drafted over him again.
No! That's not true. Because Brandon Marshall is on my team, he is the best WR in the world. He is top 5. Don't pick on him!!!
 
This is one of those situations where both sides are in the right. Walker has a contract and was injured playing for the Broncos- no reason he should accept a pay cut. Denver shouldnt pay top money to a WR that cant stay healthy when they have a replacement that is top notch and the NFL doesnt have guaranteed contracts. I think they will part ways amicably and somebody in worse shape will pay Walker pretty well. Maybe Chicago or Miami.

 
I think I recently heard on the local sports (Colorado Springs) that Denver re signed Stokley for 3 more years, if my memory serves me correctly. If so its another sign that the Bronco's may be preparing to move on without Javon.

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Another reason why not to start Walker tonight. I personally don't trust Shannahan. He's not going to give him the snaps and pawn it off on him being not healthy enough. They won't be trading him so they don't need to showcase Javon so I don't believe he'll get much PT.

 
I guess I am missing something in that article.

All it basically has is a writer speculating that Denver "might" try and do something, but I don't see one quote from a team rep saying that they are looking to do anything.

I mean anything is possible, but I can predict he will be back in Denver as a 1,000 yard receiver and both have probably about the same liklihood of happening.

 
Looking at what Moss has done to the Pats, and what TO has done to the Eagles & Cowboys, I think this is a great time to be a stud WR on the open market. Obviously, Walker is not at the level of those two, but he is pro bowl caliber when healthy and he will get paid if Denver cuts him.

I haven't followed his career closely, but as far as I know he has been a good team player, aside from a contract squabble with GB (and he unquestionably handled that a lot better than TO did with the Eagles).

Frankly I would be surprised if Denver does cut him, unless they are aware of some injury complications which are not publicly known. It's not like they are overflowing at WR talent, and I think they believe they can contend for an AFC West title next year.

 

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