Jenkins to the Padres or Phillies (1 Viewer)

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Geoff Jenkins is still good for 25-35 HR if he goes to Philly.....he's a gamer who probably should have been linked in the Mitchell report.

 

[guru_007]

Conference of Champions

Considering Jenkins has only broke 25 homers 3 times in his career, and can't hit lefties at all, I think your expectations are a bit high. I like Jenkins though, he's a great platoon fielder, plays hard and has enough pop that he doesn't kill you in the lineup (although he K's about 25% of the time). I could see a .265 hitter, with 20 hr's and 65 rbis on the Phils. Not sure he'd be that great in SD though.

 

[hauser42]

Good luck to who every signs Jenkins. He stole money from the Brewers and their fans for many years. He only starts to hit when his team is out of playoff contention. The Crew is so much better with him out of the picture.

 

[Please See Mine]

Officially a Phillie

He should actually match (at least) Rowand's offensive production. Obviously defense is downgraded and we are in trouble in CF if Victorino goes down.

 

[guru_007]

Officially a Phillie

He should actually match (at least) Rowand's offensive production. Obviously defense is downgraded and we are in trouble in CF if Victorino goes down.

If he matches Rowands offense production from last year, I will never post again in this forum. No way in hell does he hit .309, 27 hrs, 89 rbis, 105 runs, .374 obp, .515 slgIn fact if he matches more than one of those categories, I'll never post in the baseball forum again.

 

[Please See Mine]

Officially a Phillie

He should actually match (at least) Rowand's offensive production. Obviously defense is downgraded and we are in trouble in CF if Victorino goes down.

If he matches Rowands offense production from last year, I will never post again in this forum. No way in hell does he hit .309, 27 hrs, 89 rbis, 105 runs, .374 obp, .515 slgIn fact if he matches more than one of those categories, I'll never post in the baseball forum again.

I should have clarified that. I do not think Rowand will necessarily be as good as he was last year.Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

 

[Eephus]

Jenkins isn't a bad signing but he's best suited to be part of a platoon. It's hard to get 100 R or RBI if you're limited to 400 ABs.

 

[guru_007]

Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.As noted before, I like Jenkins, but he is on the downside of his career, is not exactly Mr. Durable, and can't hit lefties. A more realistic stat line would be .265, 20 hrs, 65 rbi's.

 

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Officially a Phillie

He should actually match (at least) Rowand's offensive production. Obviously defense is downgraded and we are in trouble in CF if Victorino goes down.

If he matches Rowands offense production from last year, I will never post again in this forum. No way in hell does he hit .309, 27 hrs, 89 rbis, 105 runs, .374 obp, .515 slgIn fact if he matches more than one of those categories, I'll never post in the baseball forum again.

You could be in trouble. I think in Philly he could hit 27 HR, knock in 89 (easy) and slug .515.

 

[guru_007]

Officially a Phillie

He should actually match (at least) Rowand's offensive production. Obviously defense is downgraded and we are in trouble in CF if Victorino goes down.

If he matches Rowands offense production from last year, I will never post again in this forum. No way in hell does he hit .309, 27 hrs, 89 rbis, 105 runs, .374 obp, .515 slgIn fact if he matches more than one of those categories, I'll never post in the baseball forum again.

You could be in trouble. I think in Philly he could hit 27 HR, knock in 89 (easy) and slug .515. <_<

Feel free to bump this next October.I'm not scared.

Worst case, my GB Doctor Detroit owes me an AWESOME member number over at rotodugout.com. I could see Jenkins hitting 27 homers. I doubt he comes close to any of the other numbers.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.As noted before, I like Jenkins, but he is on the downside of his career, is not exactly Mr. Durable, and can't hit lefties. A more realistic stat line would be .265, 20 hrs, 65 rbi's.

In only around 400 ABs.Then add Werth's 200-250 ABs where he'll hit .300, 8 HRs, 50 RBIs.There's your replacement for Rowands production in the lineup.

 

[Billy Bats]

That's great, another bat in the lineup that will strikeout 450 times. Just what we needed :rollseyes:

 

[Eephus]

Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.As noted before, I like Jenkins, but he is on the downside of his career, is not exactly Mr. Durable, and can't hit lefties. A more realistic stat line would be .265, 20 hrs, 65 rbi's.

In only around 400 ABs.Then add Werth's 200-250 ABs where he'll hit .300, 8 HRs, 50 RBIs.There's your replacement for Rowands production in the lineup.

Offensively sure, but it's a significant downgrade in the field. Victorino was around league average at CF when he filled in for Rowand in 2006. The bigger problem will be in RF, Werth/Jenkins both have decent throwing arms but can't cover the ground that Victorino could.

 

[guru_007]

Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.As noted before, I like Jenkins, but he is on the downside of his career, is not exactly Mr. Durable, and can't hit lefties. A more realistic stat line would be .265, 20 hrs, 65 rbi's.

In only around 400 ABs.Then add Werth's 200-250 ABs where he'll hit .300, 8 HRs, 50 RBIs.There's your replacement for Rowands production in the lineup.

That's a helluva year getting 50 rbi's in 250 ab's. Why not play him everyday?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Jenkins's 162-game average for his career is better than Rowand's and even though Jenkins has been a little below his career the last 2 seasons, I don't see why he can't hit 25 HR's with 90 RBI's and a .280 average if he were to play a full season. In however many at-bats he gets, he will be equal to what Rowand could produce.

I think you're going to be pretty disappointed.As noted before, I like Jenkins, but he is on the downside of his career, is not exactly Mr. Durable, and can't hit lefties. A more realistic stat line would be .265, 20 hrs, 65 rbi's.

In only around 400 ABs.Then add Werth's 200-250 ABs where he'll hit .300, 8 HRs, 50 RBIs.There's your replacement for Rowands production in the lineup.

That's a helluva year getting 50 rbi's in 250 ab's. Why not play him everyday?

He doesn't hit RHP particularly well.In 2007 Werth had 255 ABs, hit .298 with 8 HRs and 49 RBIs.Vs. RHP he had 167 ABs and hit .257 with 3 HRs and 27 RBIs.Vs. LHP he had 88 ABS and hit .375 with 5 HRs and 22 RBIs. Hence the need for a platoon guy who hits RHP good.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Just for giggles I took all of Werths 2007 stats vs. LHP and all of Jenkins 2007 stats vs. RHP and got this:

443 ABs: .284 avg, 23 HRs, 72 RBIs.

That's not too shabby.

 

[Balco]

Oh man, that was a pretty horrible deal. Wow.

 

[guru_007]

He doesn't hit RHP particularly well.In 2007 Werth had 255 ABs, hit .298 with 8 HRs and 49 RBIs.Vs. RHP he had 167 ABs and hit .257 with 3 HRs and 27 RBIs.Vs. LHP he had 88 ABS and hit .375 with 5 HRs and 22 RBIs. Hence the need for a platoon guy who hits RHP good.

I'm sure that's what the Brewers were thinking when they signed Mench, so that he could platoon with Jenkins and they would have a 40 hr, 140 rbi rightfielding platoon combo. I'm not saying it can't work, I'm just saying I don't think Jenkins/Werth is going to be that dominating as an everyday OF platoon. Occasionally I'm wrong.

 

[JaxBill]

Any comments on Chad Durbin? Sounds like he's going to be a long relief guy with a shot at the 5th starter.

 

[Snotbubbles]

He doesn't hit RHP particularly well.In 2007 Werth had 255 ABs, hit .298 with 8 HRs and 49 RBIs.Vs. RHP he had 167 ABs and hit .257 with 3 HRs and 27 RBIs.Vs. LHP he had 88 ABS and hit .375 with 5 HRs and 22 RBIs. Hence the need for a platoon guy who hits RHP good.

I'm sure that's what the Brewers were thinking when they signed Mench, so that he could platoon with Jenkins and they would have a 40 hr, 140 rbi rightfielding platoon combo. I'm not saying it can't work, I'm just saying I don't think Jenkins/Werth is going to be that dominating as an everyday OF platoon. Occasionally I'm wrong.

Do they have to be dominating? I figure .270 avg, 25-30 HRs and around 90 RBIs from the platoon. Hopefully the Phils will deal for a power hitting 3b to bat either 5th or 6th. Then the Jenkins/Werth platoon will be hitting 7th. Those numbers would be better than respectable for a 7 hole hitter.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Any comments on Chad Durbin? Sounds like he's going to be a long relief guy with a shot at the 5th starter.

Yeah it seems that when a starter goes down they'll use him as a replacement instead of bringing up a minor leaguer. Plus, I'm sure they're using him as insurance in case Eaton continues to struggle or Kendrick is just a flash in the pan.

 

[guru_007]

He doesn't hit RHP particularly well.In 2007 Werth had 255 ABs, hit .298 with 8 HRs and 49 RBIs.Vs. RHP he had 167 ABs and hit .257 with 3 HRs and 27 RBIs.Vs. LHP he had 88 ABS and hit .375 with 5 HRs and 22 RBIs. Hence the need for a platoon guy who hits RHP good.

I'm sure that's what the Brewers were thinking when they signed Mench, so that he could platoon with Jenkins and they would have a 40 hr, 140 rbi rightfielding platoon combo. I'm not saying it can't work, I'm just saying I don't think Jenkins/Werth is going to be that dominating as an everyday OF platoon. Occasionally I'm wrong.

Do they have to be dominating? I figure .270 avg, 25-30 HRs and around 90 RBIs from the platoon. Hopefully the Phils will deal for a power hitting 3b to bat either 5th or 6th. Then the Jenkins/Werth platoon will be hitting 7th. Those numbers would be better than respectable for a 7 hole hitter.

If you can live with those numbers, I think that's a reasonable estimate. Of course, you are carrying two roster spots and paying out 7.5 million/year or so, but I guess that's about the going rate these days.

 

[Snotbubbles]

He doesn't hit RHP particularly well.In 2007 Werth had 255 ABs, hit .298 with 8 HRs and 49 RBIs.Vs. RHP he had 167 ABs and hit .257 with 3 HRs and 27 RBIs.Vs. LHP he had 88 ABS and hit .375 with 5 HRs and 22 RBIs. Hence the need for a platoon guy who hits RHP good.

I'm sure that's what the Brewers were thinking when they signed Mench, so that he could platoon with Jenkins and they would have a 40 hr, 140 rbi rightfielding platoon combo. I'm not saying it can't work, I'm just saying I don't think Jenkins/Werth is going to be that dominating as an everyday OF platoon. Occasionally I'm wrong.

Do they have to be dominating? I figure .270 avg, 25-30 HRs and around 90 RBIs from the platoon. Hopefully the Phils will deal for a power hitting 3b to bat either 5th or 6th. Then the Jenkins/Werth platoon will be hitting 7th. Those numbers would be better than respectable for a 7 hole hitter.

If you can live with those numbers, I think that's a reasonable estimate. Of course, you are carrying two roster spots and paying out 7.5 million/year or so, but I guess that's about the going rate these days.

7.5MM for .270 average, 25-30 HRs and 90 RBIs is peanuts compared to some of the other off-season signings:Andruw Jones (18MM) for .222, 26 HRs, 94 RBIsTorii Hunter (18MM) for .287, 28 HRs, 107 RBIsAaron Rowand (12MM) for .309, 27 HRs, 89 RBIs

 

[Please See Mine]

Any comments on Chad Durbin? Sounds like he's going to be a long relief guy with a shot at the 5th starter.

Yeah it seems that when a starter goes down they'll use him as a replacement instead of bringing up a minor leaguer. Plus, I'm sure they're using him as insurance in case Eaton continues to struggle or Kendrick is just a flash in the pan.